DC or Marvel?

It's been one of the greatest debates among fans for over 75 years, when characters like Superman and Captain America made their comic book debuts. The dispute has gone largely unsettled since then, but twin brothers seek to end that once and for all through their podcast: Dynamic Duel.

Duel Episodes

In the show, Jonathan (Johnny DC) and Joseph (Marvelous Joe) discuss a matchup between two comparable characters from each fictional universe. The winner is not determined through popularity or fantastic feats, but through a probabilistic model known the Monte Carlo simulation. Simply, it randomizes each character's statistics along a normal distribution and compares the numbers to simulate 1000 duels. In the end, a percentage of wins for each character is calculated, and the one with the most victories is declared the champion.

Review Episodes

In addition to their duel episodes, the brothers review recent (and not-so-recent) films and binge-able television series based on Marvel and DC comics. They break down how the big-and-small-screen adaptations compare to the source material, as well as give their overall thoughts on the plot. Jon and Joe rate the film or show on a five-star scale.


Launched: January 2016

Location: Denver, Colorado

Audience: Adults

Downloads: 11,500+/month


Jonathan and Joseph Garcia were born and raised in Denver, home of one of the nation's largest comic book retailers: Mile High Comics. Their mother was as a librarian when they were children and once brought them home a book titled Marvel: Five Fabulous Decades of the World's Greatest Comics. Through the book, they became immersed in the world of Marvel superheroes and developed an appreciation for the characters and stories. At age 12, Jonathan discovered DC Comics through a neighbor, and decided to forego Marvel and read up on the world of Superman and Batman – due in part to Jonathan's effort to differentiate himself from his twin brother.

A sibling rivalry was established then that goes on to this day, where the brothers would often pass the time together by debating the outcomes of battles between the fictional comic book characters. With the emergence of DC Films in 2016, the twins knew that DC was starting a shared film universe that could rival Marvel's already impressive movie lineup. They decided they would start a podcast based on the conversations they were already having on a consistent basis, where they would debate the outcomes of Marvel vs. DC matchups and discuss the latest comic book movie news.