Authority vs Cabal

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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi, welcome to
the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we

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review superhero films and debate the
superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing

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their characters in stat-based battle
simulations. I'm Johnny DC and I'm his twin

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brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode we are
doing a team duel against two of the most baddest

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teams in DC and Marvel, repeating the authority
against the Cabal. Yeah, for those who may not know

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who the Cabal are, it's basically Marvel's
villain version of the Illuminati, the

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Illuminati being a clandestine group of
superheroes that tackle threats covertly. The

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Cabal is comprised of some of Marvel's most
nefarious villains and you are so fucked for this

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episode. The authority is going down so damn hard
that there's no way they stand a chance. I'm sorry

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to tell you this now. No way, the Cabal is exactly
the type of team that the authority would just

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annihilate. Just freaking destroy them. You
don't know anything about the authority. They're

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not originally from DC Comics, they're from
Wildstorm Comics, so I would not expect you to know

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how powerful they are. But you're gonna learn
today. We're gonna tell you all about the teams,

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run statistics to find out who would actually win
between them later on in this match before that.

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We're gonna break down the comic book and movie
news from this past week, which is a lie again

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because there wasn't any. Studios are really slow
on the news lately. It's like they're so gun-shy

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right now. You don't get why. It's like give us more
stuff to talk about. Don't you want us talking

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about Marvel in DC? Yeah, don't they know we have a
podcast to run here? What the hell? Selfish

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bastards. But as always, we list our segment times
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video game characters. In yesterday's episode
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Cyberpunk 2077 versus Veronica Santangelo from
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podcast hosts Scotty and Gilly pay your favor
action heroes from film and television against

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in December with some Christmas season duels. And
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Hepburn speculates on fights between fan
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episode Zach is revealing who'd win between
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Tatsumaki the tornado of terror from One Punch
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in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the
Dino Mike podcast network. But with that out of the

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way quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award that
Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the

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dynamic duel no prize is a digital award we post on
Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best

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answer to our question of the week. Last week we
asked you guys which company would you most want to

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acquire Warner Brothers and DC Studios and why and
this is coming off of the news that Warner Brothers

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is for sale with a number of other studios placing
bids for the acquisition. We got three honorable

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mentions which we'll go over before revealing
this week's no prize winner. Our first honorable

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mention goes to Alex Albro who said, Hey guys I
think it ought to be Paramount. They've already

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shown interest in acquiring DC. They don't have
any super major theme parks that they're going to

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want to just market to. They produce great movies
you know early MCU films Watchmen, Top Gun

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Maverick, they've done Footloose, Friday the
13th, they've done a lot of animation stuff. They

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can handle anything that DC is going to throw at
them. They also seem to be interested in keeping

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gun which is good for continuity and their app
doesn't charge crazy fees so more people will be

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inclined to sub and watch the show. I would not mind
it if Paramount acquired Warner Brothers and I had

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actually forgotten that they produced some of the
early MCU films like Iron Man. Yeah that's true

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Marvel's initial deal was with Paramount for
distribution plus Paramount also owns other IP

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like the Ninja Turtles and all of Nickelodeon
which I think DC would be well folded into. Great

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answer Alex our next honorable mention goes to DC
Joe who said. Definitely don't want Paramount to

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acquire them for political and sensitive
reasons. I'm not going to get into it you guys can

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look it up. It's very well documented. As for who I
do want them to be acquired by universal

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definitely universal for many synergy reasons.
The theme parks the other IPs that they hold their

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distribution and they support physical media.
Yeah I had to look up Paramount politics in order to

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be clear on what Jose Marcell is referring to in
regards to the politics of the studio and it looks

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like decisions like ending the late show with
Stephen Colbert are all based around owners David

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and Larry Ellison trying to court favor with the
administration by steering their content away

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from what they perceive as a liberal bias.
Therefore universal would also not be a bad

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option. I like the universal answer mainly for the
theme park angle Disney gets a lot of revenue

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through their theme parks and the Marvel rides
have become some of their most popular rides. I

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would love DC to be able to compete at that same
level because I actually think universal studios

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is superior to the Disney parks. Having never been
to either of them I will have to take you out your

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word on that. Our final honorable mention goes to
Scott Camacho who said. I think it's no question

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it's wherever universal studios is. Just as you
have Disney, Marvel, and Fox universal DC and

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Warner Brothers need to be together on that. I mean
just imagine even the universal studios theme

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parks if you had DC attractions there it's in the
writing let it happen. Right like I said theme

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parks huge attractions I want to visit the DC
universe IRL and I think the theme parks is the best

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way to do that. You really hunk up on the theme park
aspect of this potential deal. Well because I know

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universal could deliver on that end as well as the
movie end there's really nothing that Paramount

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can do that universal can't. Plus universal has
their hands on some pretty solid IP as well such as

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the Jurassic franchise. Right and movie monsters
although they're really not doing anything with

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that right now. They need DC as a strong IP. So great
answer Scotty. The winner of this week's no prize

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however is by DearBangora who said. Hi Denimado. I
think the best company to purchase Warner

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Brothers and DC studios would be Amazon. I think
with their deep pockets and their capacity to

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bring to life the boys as well as Vinceable with a
great audience and great awards for both those

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shows I think they could do something truly
amazing with DC studios and DC comics in general.

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I'd be so excited to see what the future would hold.
So this was an interesting answer because Amazon

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is currently not one of the companies that are
courting Warner Brothers Discovery to attain

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their content. That said Amazon is huge it has
their fingers in a bunch of different pies

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including movie studios like MGM including
publishing which I think would be great for DC

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comics. And really that's why you picked this
answer as the no prize. Right because I'm

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terrified that movie studios will only want to
focus on movies and not really care about the

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comics. I think if anyone were to have the best
interests of the publishing aspect of DC it would

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be a company like Amazon. Yeah I'm not sure if like
Comcast Universal or Paramount or any of the other

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studios have strong publishing arms. I know that
like Netflix doesn't right because they focus on

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movies solely but yeah whoever ends up acquiring
Warner Brothers and therefore DC would also be

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acquiring the publishing division and you would
want to make sure that that's in good hands because

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you know that's the source of all this movie and TV
show content is the comic books. Exactly so great

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answer by dear you win this week's no prize if you
the listener want a shot at winning your own no

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prize. Stay tuned to later on in this episode when
we'll be asking another question of the week. And

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now that that's done I want to the question of the
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and move on to the main event of this episode a team

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duel between the hardcore super teams of DC's
authority and Marvel's cabal. Okay the authority

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and the cabal as I mentioned earlier these are two
hardcore bad ass super teams who don't take no guff

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from nobody. Yeah I mean the cabal got quite good at
destroying entire universes leading up to the

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events of secret wars where they were ensuring the
survival of Marvel 616 at the expense of all the

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other realities and the multiverse. Yeah and the
authority is no stranger to destroying planets as

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well. The authority is a team of good guys but they
play by bad guy rules they're all anti heroes and

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they are supposed to be getting a movie within the
DC cinematic universe led by James Gunn I wonder if

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that's still gonna happen. Well we did see one of
the members of the authority the engineer in the

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Superman movie that came out this past summer. The
authority was supposed to originally be the

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second movie that was released under the gods and
monsters phase one essentially of the DC universe

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that's changed I'm not sure when we're going to get
an authority film rumor has it that it's been

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transitioned from live action into an animated
project but we'll see. Interesting interesting.

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Of course we've seen a number of members from the
cabal in live action including Emma Frost, Dr.

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Doom, the Submariner and recently The Hood and
Loki and Norman Osborn yeah basically Marvel is

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just really on top of things when it comes to
getting their characters depicted in live

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action. Unless it's Modoc then they suck. That's
true that's true Modoc being a member of the cabal

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not in the comic books but in the cartoon and video
game space. I'll get into the rosters later on but

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first to explain the methodology behind our duels
let's go to our sentient duel simulator Alfred

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Jarvis 9000. AG9K tell our listeners how you go
about determining a winner in our team duel

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matchups. Yes of course sir the way I determine a
winner between the two teams is by running 1000

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Monte Carlo simulations between every character
on each team using their statistics. A Monte Carlo

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simulation is a probabilistic model used to
determine outcomes through random sampling. In

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this case I randomize the statistics along a
normal distribution as a way to simulate the many

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variables that can occur during battle. The stat
parameters are based on the official Marvel power

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grid from which the DC characters statistics are
extrapolated. Additional stat categories are

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included such as range, damage potential,
versatility and perception in order to create a

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more detailed and accurate simulation. The
results of the 49,000 simulations provide a

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percentage of wins for each character on both
teams. The team with the higher average win rate is

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declared the victor as they have a higher
probability to win any given battle. In an

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equitable pairing neither team should win 100% of
the matches. The comic book stories have shown

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that there's even a way for Batman to defeat
Superman so the confidence rate of my method falls

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in line with the precedents that have been
established in the source material. My

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mathematical simulations are without
subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole

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consideration nor are fan votes tabulated for
determination of the winner. Thanks a J9K. Before

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we run the simulations though we like to break down
each team's histories and rosters before

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improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the
thousands of simulations would play out beat for

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beat. It's my turn to go first with the DC team's
backstory so let me tell you all about the

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authority. Now before the rise of the authority,
Earth's defense against extraterrestrial and

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metahuman threats was managed by Stormwatch, a
United Nations crisis intervention force

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headquartered aboard the satellite Skywatch.
Under the command of successive weathermen

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including the manipulative Henry Bendix,
Stormwatch operated publicly but also covertly

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through Black Ops teams like Stormwatch Black,
composed of Jenny Sparks, the spirit of the 20th

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century who could manipulate electricity and
technology, Jack Hawksmore, a man biologically

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engineered to bond with cities and draw power from
urban environments, and Swift, a Tibetan

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meta-avian capable of high-speed flight and
combat. When Skywatch fell and most of Stormwatch

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perished in an alien attack, its surviving covert
members abandoned the UN Charter and reformed

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independently. From the ashes of Stormwatch, the
authority was born, a new team with a goal of

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changing the world by any means necessary.
Joining them were Angela Spieke, the second

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engineer who replaced her blood with
nanotechnology and became a living machine,

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Jerome Thorndike, the latest doctor and wielder
of Earth's shamanistic magic lineage, and two

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enhanced operatives rescued from Stormwatch
Zero. Apollo, a solar-powered superhuman with

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strength and flight rivaling Superman, and
Midniter, a brutal hand-to-hand combatant with a

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cybernetic brain that could predict every
possible move in a fight. The team discovered and

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took residents aboard the Carrier, a sentient
interdimensional vessel capable of traversing

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the multiverse through the bleed. The authority
made their debut, repelling the global assault of

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Kaizen Gamora, who unleashed his engineered
super soldiers, the children of Gamora, across

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major cities. The team predicted and intercepted
Gamora's final strike in Los Angeles, and

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Midniter destroyed his cloning facility using
the Carrier. Their next threat came from sliding

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Albion, an imperialistic version of Britain from
a parallel universe born from human alien

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interbreeding. The Carrier breached their
dimension and the authority dismantled their

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regime from within. In 1999, as the millennium
ended, Earth's original creator, a vast god-like

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entity, returned to reclaim and terraform the
planet. The team infiltrated the being's

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colossal form, and Jenny Sparks electrocuted it
from within its brain, ending the threat at the

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cost of her life. As the spirit of the 20th century,
her death marked the end of her era, and leadership

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of the team passed to Jack Coxmore. The authority
retrieved Jenny Quantum, a newborn in Singapore,

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in the spirit of the 21st century, who had been
abducted by Medi-human engineer Dr. Jake Gip

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Krikstein. Swift negotiated her release in
exchange for his services aboard the Carrier.

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Soon after, the Earth's magnetic poles began to
reverse due to a former doctor who had succumbed to

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despair. The authority evacuated Earth's
population to alternate Earth's to prevent

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extinction, and when the rogue doctor was
overcome by empathy, he became vulnerable and was

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killed by Apollo and the engineer, allowing
Earth's population to return safely. The

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authority's global interventions attracted
opposition from the G7 nations. They dispatched

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Seth, a being engineered with over a thousand
powers who defeated the entire team except

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Midnighter. While the others were captured and
replaced with government-created duplicates,

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Midnighter escaped with baby Jenny, freed
Apollo, and together they eliminated the

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imposters. Jenny Quantum, now of speaking age,
activated a fail-safe that neutralized Seth's

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abilities. The team was restored and Apollo and
Midnighter were married, adopting Jenny as their

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daughter. They next confronted Reality
Incorporated, a multiversal corporate entity

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that attempted to colonize Earth for profit, as
well as a charismatic Medi-human named John Clay,

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who most of the team was affected. Midnighter and
the doctor resisted, the latter managing to purge

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Clay's influence to end the crisis. In the
aftermath, the doctor founded the Church of the

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Shaman to meet the world's growing spiritual
hunger. When the US military triggered a rift in

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the bleed causing the destruction of Florida, the
authority staged a bloodless coup and assumed

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control of the United States to enact reform and
prevent further catastrophe. Soon after Jenny

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Quantum was targeted by her twin sister Jenny
Fractal, a genetically altered assassin raised

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in secret by the Chinese government. Fractal
murdered Jenny, but the doctor preserved her

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soul. Midnighter traveled back in time and
eliminated the infant Fractal, allowing Jenny

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Quantum's spirit to inhabit her sister's body.
The authority's government collapsed when the

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Sons of Liberty, a team of superhumans from
earlier generations, incited nationwide

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rebellion. During the conflict, a
nuclear-powered sun detonated on the White House

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lawn, destroying much of Washington, DC.
Disillusioned, the authority disbanded. Jenny

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Quantum, now eight, ventured into the infinite
city, a realm inhabited by past Jennies, where she

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met Jenny Sparks and resolved to rebuild the team.
Jenny Quantum aged herself into adolescence and

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reassembled the authority to challenge a
resurgent Henry Bendix, who had orchestrated

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their downfall. Bendix had corrupted a woman
named Rose Tattoo into the spirit of murder and

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used her to assassinate the doctor, while a
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During Bendix's confrontation with the
authority, he manipulated Midnighter to turn

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against his team. Engineer and Jenny Quantum
disabled the threat, and Midnighter executed

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Bendix. Hassan, as the new doctor, purified Rose
Tattoo into the spirit of life who joined the team.

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The authority then encountered Captain Adam,
displaced from the DC universe, who you can learn

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more about in our Captain Adam vs Wonderman duel
episode. Though they sought to return him home,

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his unstable energies threatened to unravel
their universe's reality. As reality collapsed,

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Captain Adam killed Apollo, Midnighter, and
Jenny Quantum, before the hero Void extracted

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part of her essence from him, triggering a
universal reboot. You can learn more about Void in

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our Wildcats vs Inhumans team duel. In the newly
formed universe, the authority crash landed in a

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parallel world devoid of metahuman life. They
faced a lovecraftian creature at the bottom of the

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ocean that psychically fed on the planet's
collective unconscious fears. Though the doctor

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destroyed it using a local human as a conduit, the
act wiped out all life on the planet, and the

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authority departed the dead world aboard the
carrier. When the number of the beast program

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initiated a reality damaging event, the carrier
crashed into London, forming the city of

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Unlondon. Earth became a poisoned wasteland,
Jack Hawksmore was gravely injured, the engineer

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disabled by electromagnetic storms, and Apollo
exiled to the upper atmosphere to escape the

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toxicity. Midnighter roamed the devastated
surface, while Swift operated as a scout.

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Survivors mutated into monstrous incubates from
exposure to the Warhol virus, while Apollo became

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infected and was later frozen for safety. Kaizen
Gamora resurfaced with a mobile city, seeking to

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harness authority technology. Swift and the
engineer were kidnapped by Prince Lorenzo of

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Sliding Albion, who sought to harvest their
technology, but the two escaped and rescued a long

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lost member of the Golden, a powerful ancient race
once allied with humanity. Jack, merged with

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Gamora Island's infrastructure, regained his
powers and repelled the invasion. Apollo,

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thought and infected, was released to aid in the
final battle. Midnighter discovered that Habib

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bin Hassan, now calling himself the Green Man, had
to become unhinged. The authority rescued Gaia, a

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new century baby, who gifted Midnighter a
restorative apple. He used it to cure Apollo,

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reuniting them, and once the carrier was fully
restored, Jack offered humanity refuge aboard

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the vessel, and a new authority team was formed to
lead the Exodus. During the voyage, they

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encountered the Caribbna, an alien race that
consumed living beings for energy. With the help

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of a sentient brain, the surviving remnants of an
alien species that fell victim to the Caribbna,

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the authority defeated them and liberated the
captive species. Returning to Earth during a

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rampage from Gaia, Shift, as the new Doctor,
managed to calm her down and end the threat.

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Following the Flashpoint event, the Wildstorm
and DC universes merged. In this new reality, a

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previous version of the authority had existed,
with Jenny Sparks and the Doctor operating in

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secret. A new incarnation emerged when Superman,
weakened by alien radiation, sought allies to

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liberate Warworld from Mongol. Superman's first
recruit was the powerful telepath, Manchester

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Black, whose injuries were healed in exchange for
service. They rescued June Moon from a magical

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prison, adding Enchantress to the team, who you
can learn more about in her duel against Marvel's

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Enchantress. Apollo and Midnighter joined for
their strength and precision, while Natasha

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Irons, Steel's niece who adopted his mantle, came
aboard as a tech expert. Light Ray, an alternate

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universe's version of the Flash, was recruited
for her light speed travel, and an Omec android was

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added as a living weapon. The team's first mission
went to Rai when Omec attacked Apollo during an

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attempt to retrieve Light Ray, imprisoned by
Eclipsus. Meanwhile, Superman was trapped in the

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bottle city of Kandor by Ultra Humanite, who
planned to possess his body. Superman escaped

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with help from Brainiac, who delayed humanites'
plans. You can learn more about Brainiac and Ultra

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Humanite in their duel episodes against Ultron
and Mr. Sinister respectively. As the team

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regrouped, Apollo and Enchantress and Omec
succeeded in freeing Light Ray. With their roster

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complete, the Authority departed Earth in a new
carrier and launched an assault on Warworld and

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its tyrannical ruler, Mongul, who you can learn
more about in our Mongul vs. Annihilus episode. In

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their opening engagement, Light Ray was killed
and Apollo gravely wounded. Most of the team was

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captured, leaving only Midnighter free to
initiate a rebellion that eventually led to

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Mongul's death and the liberation of Warworld.
And that's the Authority's history so far. Now for

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my seven member roster, I'm going with the
original team members of Jenny Sparks, Jack

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Hawksmore, Swift, Engineer, Doctor, Apollo, and
Midnighter. Jenny Sparks is the cynical spirit of

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the 20th century who commands electricity, is
able to travel through power lines, fire

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lightning, and transform into energy. Jack
Hawksmore is a post-human urban avatar whose

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cybernetic body draws power from cities, giving
him enhanced senses, leaping phasing, and even

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control over the urban landscape itself. Swift is
a Tibetan-born metahuman with avian traits,

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including talons, supersonic flight enhanced
senses, and a psychic rapport with birds. The

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Engineer is a genius nanotech cyborg with liquid
metal blood that allows her to shapeshift,

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self-replicate, fabricate weapons, manipulate
tech, and alter her size. The Doctor is Earth's

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shamanistic protector with reality-warping
magic drawn from the collective memory of all who

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have ever lived, granting him near-limitless
power and wisdom. Apollo is a solar-powered

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powerhouse with super strength, durability, and
speed, as well as the ability to fly and emit

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energy. His husband, Midnighter, is a
bio-engineered super-soldier and master

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tactician with an arsenal of club and edged
weaponry, as well as enhanced strength,

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reflexes, healing, and the ability to predict
every possible outcome of a fight before it

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begins. That's the Authority. With as many times
as their planet went to shit in the history of the

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team, I'm not convinced that they're going to be
able to hold up to the cabal. Every time I went to

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shit, it was not really their fault, and they kind
of rescued it. Excuses, excuses. I don't want

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their excuses. I think the team's going to be in big
trouble in this matchup, and let me tell you why by

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going into the history of the cabal. The Skrulls, a
shapeshifting alien race secretly infiltrated

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Earth over years by replacing key heroes,
politicians, and leaders with imposters,

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believing their infiltration fulfilled a
prophecy to make Earth their new homeworld. The

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invasion erupted into full-scale war between
them and Earth's protectors when their deception

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was exposed. This war culminated in the public
execution of the Skrull Queen Varanke by Norman

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Osborn, who at the time led the Thunderbolts and
was suppressing his Green Goblin persona through

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medication. You can learn more about Osborn in our
Joker vs Green Goblin Duel and more about the

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Thunderbolts in their duel against the Watchmen.
Following the secret invasion, Norman Osborn

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parlayed his superheroic actions into
unprecedented political capital. He was given

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command of National Superhuman Security after
the international espionage organization

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Shield was dismantled and he began a new one called
Hammer. Osborn seized Avengers to have Ozborn's

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Council, soon known as the Cabal, contained
influential villains from around the world. Its

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initial inclusions were the Submariner, Emma
Frost, Dr. Doom, Loki, and the Hood, the latter of

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whom's real name was Parker Robbins, a small-time
criminal who gained mystical powers after

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stealing a cloak and boots from a slain demon
servant of Dormammu. The cloak granted the Hood

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invisibility, levitation, and limited mystical
energy projection, making him a formidable

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street-level crime boss with supernatural
power. Ozborn's arrangement promised each

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member of the Cabal a path to their ambitions in
exchange for supporting his regime and answering

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his summons when called. Ozborn's pitch tailored
incentives to each conspirator. He sought

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Frost's telepathy to help keep the table's liars
honest, while capitalizing on her leadership

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stature among mutants. He expected Doom to
normalize relations between Liberia and the

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United States through a personal understanding.
He demanded that the Hood register his criminal

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army on the streets through government channels
so they could be deployed under Thunderbolt's

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control. He agreed to advance Loki's designs on
Asgard's throne and help return the realm to the

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heavens, as, at the time, Asgard was in the skies
above Oklahoma after being rebuilt following the

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events of Ragnarok. You can learn more about this
in our Aries vs. Loki duel. Finally, he dangled the

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surface world's cooperation with Atlantis
before Namor, something that the shield had never

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offered. Even as the Cabal nodded along, power
dynamics behind the scenes remained volatile.

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Ozborn quietly held a deterrent in reserve, the
sentry's destructive other self known as the

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Void, threatening to unleash him should any
member of the Cabal betray him. Even at its

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inception, the group's alliances nested within
alliances. Namor and Dr. Doom, long comfortable

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dealing at sovereigns beyond ordinary law,
renewed their understanding when Ozborn

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inevitably imploded, Doom would rule the land and
Namor the seas. Emma Frost and Namor, whose brief

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past romance had been revealed during an earlier
attempt to recruit him into the Hellfire Club,

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forged a new pact with clear contingencies. Frost
promised to protect Namor's psyche from Ozborn's

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coercion, while Namor vowed to stand for mutant
kind if Frost needed him. You can learn more about

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Namor and Frost and their respective duels
against Aquaman and Poison Ivy. Loki moved first

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to hasten Ozborn's downfall while empowering
himself. On the geopolitical front, Loki courted

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Doom with a bargain to relocate Asgard from
Oklahoma to Liberia, provided Thor was banished,

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a condition that Doom imposed to ensure his realm
did not inherit the God of Thunder. In the

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super-criminal underworld, the hood's mystical
connection to Dormammu was severed when

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sorcerers including Dr. Strange and Dr. Voodoo
purged the demon's influence and his signature

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cloak was lost in battle. Loki exploited the
vacuum, leading the hood and Madamask to Cuba to

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recover the Asgardian Nornstones, restoring the
hood's power and making him indebted to Loki. Each

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maneuver weakened Ozborn's stability by army
gactors whose loyalties lay with Loki's long game

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rather than with Hammer. Within mutant politics,
Frost set conditions that would determine

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whether the cabal fractured or endured. As Ozborn
moved to contain the X-Men by constructing a Dark

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counterpart team under his authority, similar to
the Dark Avengers. This led to intensified

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friction with Namor, who called on an Atlantean
terrorist cell that in turn prompted a

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heavy-handed response from Hammer. Namor's
cousin Namor interfered against Ozborn's

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horses, also deepening the rift. When the moment
came, Emma Frost revealed herself as a double

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agent to the cabal after discovering Charles
Xavier had been tortured in Hammer custody. With

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Namor at her side, she turned the Dark X-Men
confrontation into a rout, publicly

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undercutting Ozborn's claim to control mutant
affairs and forcing him to accept the new mutant

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nation of Utopia near San Francisco, despite his
orders that Namor's head and Frost's heart be

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brought to him as trophies. As cracks widened,
Ozborn's control faltered even within the

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cabal's council chamber. A confrontation with
Doom escalated until the L'Averian ruler

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retaliated with a bio-weapon attack on Avengers
Tower and then walked away from the arrangement,

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forcing Ozborn to bring Taskmaster on board. When
Dr. Doom later demanded the Submariner honor

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their agreement, Ozborn unveiled the terrible
deterrent he had hinted at from the start, the

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Void. The Void hurled Doom through a wall, but it
was actually a Doombot who dissolved into swarms

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of mechanical scarabs that overran Avengers
Tower, forcing the Dark Avengers into retreat.

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The spectacle exposed Ozborn's dependence on
intimidation and the brittleness of a coalition

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held together by threats. The cabal's reputation
among villains did not translate into lasting

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leverage. For example, the groups perceived
influence encouraged even warlords such as

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Dracula to seek latitude for his European
conquests through Doom, arrangements that Doom

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refused to indulge. However, the broader villain
community ultimately turned against Ozborn due

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to his own escalation. The act of his dark reign
over the superpowered populace culminated in an

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attempted siege of Asgard itself. The overreach
shattered the state façade that had shielded

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Ozborn and he was brought down by the combined
efforts of Earth's heroes and public scrutiny.

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Ozborn was imprisoned, the Hood and Taskmaster
were apprehended, Loki's body was destroyed in

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the battle, Emmafrost and Namor returned to their
ranks and Doom resumed uncontested rule in

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Latteria. With its architect disgraced and its
member scattered, the cabal disbanded. However,

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years later a new iteration emerged from a
different ethical crisis. The Illuminati were

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forced to confront apocalyptic collisions
between universes called incursions that could

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only be averted by destroying one of the Earth's
involved. For a time, the Illuminati bore that

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burden, but the moral cost grew intolerable.
Everyone but Namor refused to continue

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annihilating other worlds to save their own.
Concluding that survival required the will to do

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what the others would not, Namor assembled a new
cabal of beings for whom extinction level of

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violence was an acceptable instrument of policy.
This included Thanos and his Black Order, whom

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you've learned more about in their duel against
Darkseid's elite. In contrast to Ozborn's

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backroom government, this version of the cabal
was an operational death squad, aimed at

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preserving a single Earth at the expense of all
others. This new group prosecuted its campaign

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with Muthas efficiency. Where the Illuminati had
agonized, Namor's cabal acted, detonating

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worlds and leaving entire realities in ruins.
Namor's actions destroyed his old alliances. He

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didn't just abandon the heroes' methods, he
rejected their entire sense of morality. Each

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successful destruction forestalled the next
incursion at the price of incalculable deaths,

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and each victory pushed Namor deeper into
reliance on his new allies, whose goals of cosmic

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domination and nihilistic balance diverged
sharply from his own. As the final worlds

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collapsed toward a final incursion, Namor
ensured that his cabal would not perish with the

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dying worlds. Anticipating the end, they secured
passage aboard a specially designed life pod unit

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built by an alternate reality, Reed Richards, a
vessel capable of withstanding the universe's

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unraveling. Reality gave way into the battle
world, a patchwork planet ruled by Dr. Doom and

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composed of various worlds from throughout the
multiverse. The cabal endured the journey there,

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but they disbanded as Thanos abandoned their
goals to instead make an attempt for Dr. Doom's

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newfound power, only to have his spine ripped out.
And that's the cabal's history. For the person

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roster, I'm choosing to forgo some of the key
members, such as Norman Osborn, who was part of our

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Sinister Six team duel, Namor, who was part of the
Fantastic Four duel, and Thanos, who was part of

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the Black Order duel. But I am including the
original members of Dr. Doom, Emma Frost, the

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White Queen, Loki, and the Hood. To round out the
remaining spots, I'm going with two villains who

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are members of the cabal in the Avengers Assemble
cartoon, and the contest of champions video game,

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and that is Red Skull and Modoc. For the seventh and
final spot, I'm going with a villain who is also a

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member of the cabal in the cartoons, and that is the
Hulk's arch nemesis, the leader, who started out

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as a janitor named Samuel Stearns, who was exposed
to gamma radiation at the chemical plant where he

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worked. It granted him superhuman intelligence
and an enlarged cranium, making him as smart as the

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Hulk was strong. He possessed a genius-level IQ,
perfect memory, and the ability to process

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information and devise strategies far beyond
human capability. He can communicate

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telepathically, move objects with telekinesis,
and can emit gamma radiation blasts from his head.

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He has built advanced technology including laser
pistols, kinetic absorption gauntlets, and

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teleportation devices. So that's my team to
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rosters out of the way, let's speculate on how one
of the thousands of simulated matches will go

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between them. The winners determined by
simulations, not the speculation, but it's fun to

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imagine how the fight could play out. AG9K, what
are the rules of our speculation? Well, I should

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say there are no rules, other than the teams have no
prior knowledge of the other going into the fight.

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All they are aware of starting out is that the other
side is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For

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the speculation, the groups will begin
approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript

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environment that will have no bearing on the match
itself, as no environmental statistics are

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considered in my simulations. The teams must earn
victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's

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get into it. The authority and the cabal meet on the
battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna say that

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Emma Frost starts out. She's gonna scan the minds
of every member of the authority, and she's gonna

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be like, holy crap, I thought we were fucked up
guys. But she delivers all the details to every

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other member of the cabal, psychically. Okay, so
the Garden of Ancestral Memory is going to warn the

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doctor that he's being brain scanned. And since
all of the members of the authority wear this radio

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telepathic nanotech device on their temporal
lobe, the doctor is able to warn all of them that

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Emma Frost is psychically scanning them. And so
Jenny Sparks is gonna tell Swift telepathically

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to take out Emma Frost. So Swift jets toward her at
hyper speed, Talon's first, and she just slashes

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her to rubens. Yeah, it's too bad that the cabal do
everything about the authority now, and they knew

422
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about the nanotech device, and they anticipated
Swift's attack. Because Emma Frost just turns

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into Diamond. And so Swift isn't scratching shit.
And Modoc, he's just gonna straight up

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disintegrate Swift with an energy beam from his
headband. So now the authority know that the cabal

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aren't fucking around. Damn, like that, huh?
Okay. Well, the authority also does not fuck

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around. And they're gonna let the cabal know that
by having the engineer duplicate herself into

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like six other engineers who all form their
forearms into machine guns, and start firing at

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the cabal laying down suppressive fire while
Apollo is going to speed bullets Dr. Doom and

429
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punches 10 head right off of his body. Force field.
Dr. Doom blocks both the bullets from the engineer

430
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:31,930
and Apollo's attack with a dome force field. And so
the authority are trying to get inside this force

431
00:43:31,930 --> 00:43:37,530
field dome, but it fills up with green smoke hiding
every member of the cabal that's inside of it.

432
00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:44,270
Except that Jack Hawksmore, he's also known as the
king of cities. He has this spatial sense that

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allows him to see what they're doing within the
green smoke. And with each of their locations

434
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pinpointed within, he's going to cause the ground
directly beneath them to quickly just launch

435
00:43:57,070 --> 00:44:02,590
upwards, slamming all of them into the ceiling of
the dome shield. And it's going to knock all of them

436
00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:08,250
out, as well as bring down the force field. Oh, oh,
he thinks so, huh? Yeah, when the force field

437
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:13,470
dissipates and the green smoke clears away, the
only thing that's left there is a green snake that

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grows into the size of like a freight train.
Because the hood teleported every member of the

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00:44:19,310 --> 00:44:24,450
cabal out of the force field just in time, except
for Loki, who was providing a distraction with the

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00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:30,670
smoke and shape shifting into a giant serpent. And
that snake is just going to wrap around Apollo and

441
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devour him whole. Okay, well, that snake and Loki,
I guess, is going to explode in this blinding light

442
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of energy from Apollo from within. And with Jack
able to sense the cabal teleporting probably

443
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behind them, he's able to warn the others. And
Jenny Sparks generates this powerful arc of

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electricity that chains to all of them and
electrocutes them. Yeah, yeah, Jack thinks he's

445
00:44:55,810 --> 00:45:01,290
able to sense the cabal behind him, but only
because of a psychic suggestion by Amarfrost.

446
00:45:01,290 --> 00:45:05,790
Jack doesn't really know anything. He's been
manipulated this whole time. In reality, Jenny

447
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doesn't hit anything with her electricity. And
when the cabal do reappear from the hood's

448
00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:16,890
teleportation, they're actually surrounding
the authority on all sides, including Loki. He

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00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:22,350
didn't actually get blown up. It was just an
illusion diversion. And the red skull shoots from

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a gas gun, his dust of death compound at midnight,
which poisons midnight and just desiccates his

451
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face into a red skull killing him. Midnighter is
going to calculate what red skull is about to do. So

452
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just before red skull pulls the trigger on his gas
gun, midnighters going to hurl his night stick

453
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:48,570
into Red skull's chest area with enough force that
it impales him. That's going to cause the red skull

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to squeeze his trigger as he gets knocked
backward. And he ends up spraying the white queen

455
00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:59,830
in the face, desiccating her and causing her to
die. Well, that's stupid. Two birds with one

456
00:45:59,830 --> 00:46:05,190
stone, I guess. That's right. But the hood is going
to go for the same. He said he's going to up the game

457
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by shooting hellfire bullets from his twin
pistols that are going to curve and hit Jenny

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00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:17,170
Sparks and Midnighter and to the doctor all in one
shot. Oh, no worries. The doctor, he's going to

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00:46:17,170 --> 00:46:24,010
transmute those bullets into butterflies and
Jack causes a massive geyser to erupt beneath the

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hood that's going to launch him into the air with
boiling hot water. Hot water is not going to affect

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the hood. You know, he's like partially possessed
by a demon while wearing the cloak. I don't think

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boiling water is going to hurt him if he's not hurt
by like fire, you know, the hood is just going to

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00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:45,550
teleport off this geyser and then in his demon
form, he's just going to eviscerate Jack

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00:46:45,550 --> 00:46:52,810
Hawksmore. So Jack is out and then Dr. Doom shoots
an electric blast that fries the engineer

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00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:59,150
circuits. So she's out too. I'm sorry. Jenny
Sparks controls electricity, like all

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electricity around them. So she redirects that
blast toward Modoc, which fries his circuits and

467
00:47:05,450 --> 00:47:10,910
shuts him down. So he's out of the match.
Meanwhile, the doctor seeing the hood demon

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00:47:10,910 --> 00:47:18,590
exercises the demon using knowledge from an old
priest. And with the hood depowered, the doctor is

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going to cause him to just melt into a puddle. So
he's out as well. Okay. Well, Jenny, she suddenly

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00:47:26,610 --> 00:47:33,750
gets a dagger in the back by Loki, who snuck over to
her and stabbed her. And then he teleports over to

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Midnighter and freezes him with an ice blast.
Okay, well, Apollo doesn't appreciate that. So

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he's going to fly over and land between Loki and
Midnighter, generating this blending flash of

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00:47:47,410 --> 00:47:54,630
light to stun Loki before picking up and flying off
with Midnighter to thaw him with heat energy.

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00:47:54,630 --> 00:48:00,410
Meanwhile, the engineer is going to go up against
Dr. Doom, and they're going to be exchanging laser

475
00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:07,390
blasts as a distraction while her duplicates
maneuver behind him and infect his suit, shutting

476
00:48:07,390 --> 00:48:14,510
it down. You don't think that Doom has protection
from nanite invasion? Like his systems have their

477
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:21,710
own like mini nano Doom bots that would prevent
such an attack like this. They stop the shutdown,

478
00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:27,630
and then in fact, they remotely hack the
engineer's technology, infecting her with a

479
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:33,490
virus into her system that turns into like this
uncontrollable swarm of malfunctioning nano

480
00:48:33,490 --> 00:48:40,580
bots. I'm sorry, you don't think engineer has
protection against other nanites? I say it's a

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00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:46,490
Doom's nano bots that get the virus, infecting his
system and causing all of his armor, like even his

482
00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:52,130
helmet, to fall off revealing his ugly mug. You
can't just repeat my attack. You just literally

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00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:57,650
did what I did. I say Doom's nanite attack is
superior. You say otherwise. So it looks like we

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just have a stalemate, which means that Doom and
the engineer are just going to be glitching each

485
00:49:01,830 --> 00:49:07,650
other in attempts to hack each other with nano
bots. Meanwhile, while that's happening, the

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leader, he's going to mind control Apollo into
crushing Midnighter like a grape, just turning

487
00:49:13,330 --> 00:49:20,790
him into this paste that will take way too long for
Midnighter to heal from. Oh damn. Okay. Well, I

488
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:26,610
guess to prevent the leader from controlling
Apollo into killing everyone else on his team, the

489
00:49:26,610 --> 00:49:32,870
doctor is going to have to kill his own teammate by
sucking all of the light and energy away from

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00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:39,450
Apollo with this magic black hole, which is also
going to pull him in. But the doctor is also going to

491
00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:45,270
maneuver that black hole over to Loki as well,
vanishing him from the match before sealing that

492
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:53,750
black hole closed. Okay. So your guy took out both
Apollo and Loki? Yes. Okay. Uh, well, while that's

493
00:49:53,750 --> 00:50:02,110
going on, Dr. Doom manages to out hack the engineer
by using magic, because he can do magic. She can't.

494
00:50:02,110 --> 00:50:08,570
Dr. Doom adds magic to his computer virus that she
can't out hack. So he shuts her down with his magic

495
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nano bots. She's out of the match. And then the
leader is going to fire a gamma mental bolt from his

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brain that just fries the doctor's mind and sever
his connection to all those other minds in the

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ancestral garden. Okay. For maybe like a second,
because at the last second, the doctor, he's going

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to stretch time and that's going to give him enough
time for past doctors in the garden of ancestral

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memory to help the doctor regain access to his
body, at which point he's just going to transform

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the leader's head into an actual scrotum with
testes instead of brains. So he's out. And it looks

501
00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:55,890
like all we have left is Dr. Doom versus the doctor.
So the doctor is going to end this right away by

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having doom be surrounded by his worst nightmare,
a swarm of endless squirrels that devour him whole

503
00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:08,730
leaving nothing but his faceplate in the end.
You're talking about when Dr. Doom was allegedly

504
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quote unquote defeated by squirrel girl. I mean,
it was not alleged it happened. Well, Dr. Doom,

505
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while he's being attacked by the squirrels is
going to remotely activate the time circuitry in

506
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:27,670
his armor. That's going to rewind time to the point
that the doctor summoned the squirrels and then

507
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:35,050
doom just casts a mirror spell that results in the
doctor getting eaten alive by his own swarm of

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squirrels. Okay, you want to play with time? I'm
going to say that doesn't happen. And instead, the

509
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doctor actually jumps back in time to when doom was
a newborn baby. And he just kills him in the crib.

510
00:51:47,050 --> 00:51:52,790
No, Doom already has a contingency set up as like
this magic trap for anyone who would try to kill him

511
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as a baby. And so the doctor attempts to do this, but
he just gets deatomized by like a trio of demons.

512
00:52:00,110 --> 00:52:06,330
Okay, and then the doctor reatomizes himself and
then kills dooms parents instead. How does he

513
00:52:06,330 --> 00:52:14,050
reatomize himself? This is magic, bitch. But it's
magic deatomization. I guess we have a stalemate

514
00:52:14,050 --> 00:52:20,330
here too. It's Dr. Doom's magic versus the
doctor's magic, except that doom is going to out

515
00:52:20,330 --> 00:52:26,790
magic the doctor by incorporating science into
his magic, which is something the doctor can't do.

516
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:34,730
So there you go. The cabal wins. Yeah, sorry, magic
trump science. So the cabal loses, in fact. Well,

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00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:38,130
let's go ahead and leave the match there. Let's run
the simulations. We'll find out which one of these

518
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:45,190
scenarios happens. Either Dr. Doom manages to out
time magic the doctor or the doctor manages to out

519
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time magic Dr. Doom. It's a weird sentence there,
but let's run the stats and find out what happens.

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Agenine K hit it. Inputting data, running
calculations, processing results, simulations

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00:52:57,890 --> 00:53:03,770
complete. This was a good one. The authority is
hella powerful, except for Swift, which we'll get

522
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:09,750
into later. The cabal is also hella powerful,
except for Red Skull. So it's kind of probably

523
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:15,650
fitting that we paired up Swift and Red Skull being
as they were by far the weakest members of each of

524
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our teams. Right. Yeah, we paired up Swift and Red
Skull. We also paired up Apollo and Dr. Doom sort of

525
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:28,470
in a callback to our Superman versus Dr. Doom
episode. Statwise Midnighter was comparable to

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00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:36,970
the Hood, Jenny Sparks to White Queen, the
Engineer to Modoc and the Doctor to Loki, and Jack

527
00:53:36,970 --> 00:53:43,070
Hawksmore to the leader. Yeah, that was not a great
matchup, but that was kind of all that was left. But

528
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statwise, as always in our team battles, everyone
went up against everyone else. As we mentioned,

529
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Swift was my weakest character. She had an average
win rate of only 12.3%. Yeah, I thought the most

530
00:53:55,770 --> 00:53:59,810
powerful member of your team was going to be
Apollo, but it was actually the Doctor. And before

531
00:53:59,810 --> 00:54:04,230
this matchup, I had no idea who the Doctor was.
Yeah, the guy's insanely powerful. He's actually

532
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:09,770
a pretty cool character. I'm glad we pin him up
against Loki. They're both almost omnipotent.

533
00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:15,590
Loki was actually just as powerful as Dr. Doom, who
is incredibly impressive statistically. It's

534
00:54:15,590 --> 00:54:20,890
probably why he beat Superman all those years ago.
He's basically like Batman meets Dr. Strange

535
00:54:20,890 --> 00:54:25,870
meets Iron Man all rolled up into one. So yeah, Dr.
Doom had quite the impressive win rate winning

536
00:54:25,870 --> 00:54:33,810
74.4% of all his matches. Loki won 73.9% of all his
matches. More of the authority characters on my

537
00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:41,550
roster had higher win rates than yours. Four of my
guys had average win rates above 50%. Yeah,

538
00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:47,150
whereas I only had three, which included Dr. Doom,
Loki, and Modok. Although the leader was right

539
00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:53,750
there winning 49.5% of all his matches, so roughly
half. In regards to the overall stat comparison,

540
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:59,710
the authority just wiped the floor with the cabal
when it came to speed. But the cabal totally

541
00:54:59,710 --> 00:55:05,150
dominated the authority when it came to
intelligence. There were a lot of master minds on

542
00:55:05,150 --> 00:55:10,330
this version of the cabal. So taking all of this
into consideration, Joseph, which team do you

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think came out on top in this team duel match? I got
to give it to the cabal. How can you not? There's

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Doom. You don't bet against Doom. You don't bet
against the Red Skull, Modok, White Queen, Loki,

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Leader, I just I'm naming everybody now. They're
all fantastic. Who the hell is Jack Hawksmore?

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That's not even a real name. It's certainly not the
name of someone who deserves to win a match. I mean,

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his nickname is also the King of Cities. King of
shitties. I don't know what I'm saying. I think

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that Instagram agrees with me because 51% of our
followers who voted in our poll voted for the

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cabal. Well, that's now a whole lot at all. Were you
trying to rhyme right there? No. Okay. I mean, any

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chance I get? Well, let's find out who won. A.J .9K.
The results, please. The winner in the team duel

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matchup between the authority and the cabal is the
cabal. Damn straight. What did you say about me

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learning today earlier? What was that, Jonathan?
Are you going to learn something because the cabal

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only won 50.6% of the thousands of matches
compared to the authority who won 49.4. This was an

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insanely close matchup. That is closer than I
thought it was going to be. Actually, given the

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stat discrepancies, I would have figured that the
cabal would have come out more wins ahead. I guess

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that means that in the simulations, the team
didn't perform as well as they probably should

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have. I'm not going to lie. After we entered all of
the stats, I thought the cabal was going to do a lot

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better. I'm not sure what happened there. There
may have been some luck in your favor with that. Not

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enough to win though, but I got close. I got real
close, and that's all that matters. It's not who

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wins. It's just about having fun. I did have fun
winning. Yeah, you're right. Did you have fun

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losing? I mean, not really. You just said it's
about having fun. Whatever. Great job, Marvel

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fans. You did it again. Like I said, we're winning
the whole month of November. This is just the

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start. AG9K, help close us out. In our next
episode, we are doing another duel, this time

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pitting the cowboy, Jonah Hex against the zombie
cyborg, Deathlock. We want to give a big thanks to

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our executive producers, Jon Straussky, Zachary
Hepburn, Dustin Belcom, Nathaniel Wegener, Levi

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Aitin, Austin Wieselowski, E.J. Dunkerly, Nick
Ibonto, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Speese,

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Dean Malesky, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Mike
Williams, and Paul Graves for helping make this

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podcast possible. We'll talk to you guys next
week. Up, up, and away, true believers. You will

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respect my authoritar.