Doom Patrol Season 4 Review

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Hitman's Agent 53 00:05:11,782 --> 00:05:18,144 47 vs. Ezio Auditoria from Assassin's Creed, and Gino from Super Mario RPG vs. NES from 54 00:05:18,244 --> 00:05:23,146 Earthbound. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all 55 00:05:23,186 --> 00:05:29,149 the shows in the Dynamike Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! 56 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:36,272 A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize, 57 00:05:36,592 --> 00:05:41,430 is a digital award we post on Instagram and in our email newsletter. for the person that 58 00:05:41,470 --> 00:05:47,291 we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked if Brainiac 59 00:05:47,371 --> 00:05:53,453 is the villain in Superman Legacy, who would you cast as the character and why? We got a 60 00:05:53,493 --> 00:05:57,154 lot of great answers for this one, it seems like you guys were really excited to cast a 61 00:05:57,214 --> 00:06:01,135 potential villain for the new DCU, so let's go ahead and run down our honorable mentions 62 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:06,837 as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to, Miggy Mathingian, who said, 63 00:06:07,257 --> 00:06:12,411 Hey what's up guys, it's Miggy, and I would cast Mads Mikkelsen as Brainiac. Imagine the 64 00:06:12,451 --> 00:06:17,594 zeal of the first Doctor Strange villain, the intelligence of the banker from Casino Royale, 65 00:06:18,014 --> 00:06:22,717 and the poison evil of Hannibal Lecter. And I think that would be a perfect Brainiac villain. 66 00:06:23,537 --> 00:06:29,161 He's also done a bunch of these like tentpole blockbuster movies, so he would have no trouble 67 00:06:29,181 --> 00:06:34,244 doing it. All right, thanks guys. Yeah, Mads Mikkelsen is a fantastic actor. As many of 68 00:06:34,264 --> 00:06:40,007 you know, he was Casilius in the first Doctor Strange film. but he has yet to play a role 69 00:06:40,027 --> 00:06:44,851 in DC to my knowledge. And I think he'd make a fantastic Brainiac for sure. Yeah, the guy 70 00:06:44,891 --> 00:06:50,014 does a lot of villain roles, but luckily he's a good actor. So they all feel somewhat different. 71 00:06:50,054 --> 00:06:54,398 And I think he could bring actually quite a bit to the role of Brainiac. So I agree, great 72 00:06:54,478 --> 00:07:01,323 answer. Our next honorable mention goes to Jacob Bell, who said. What's up guys, Jacob, Jacob 73 00:07:01,343 --> 00:07:08,528 Bell here. I'm gonna go with Oscar Isaac. for the role of Brainiac. I think that we know 74 00:07:08,568 --> 00:07:13,972 how he can act. We know he's a great actor. We know that he has the look. I think his look 75 00:07:13,992 --> 00:07:18,736 would be perfect for Brainiac in particular. I know that X-Men Apocalypse wasn't a great 76 00:07:18,816 --> 00:07:23,379 movie, but we know that he has that in him. And I think a second chance would be awesome. 77 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:27,682 And I think this role in particular, Brainiac would be perfect for that. So I'm gonna go 78 00:07:27,702 --> 00:07:31,865 with Oscar Isaac. You know, when I first heard Jacob Bell's answer of Oscar Isaac, I was like. 79 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:37,975 I mean, that guy's like in everything. Hasn't the guy already played a DC role? And no, he's 80 00:07:37,995 --> 00:07:43,360 played three different Marvel roles. He's in the MCU as Moon Knight, he was in the Fox X-Men 81 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:48,625 universe as Apocalypse, and he's in the Sony Spider-Man universe as Spider-Man 2099. But 82 00:07:48,665 --> 00:07:53,370 he has yet to do a DC role. Yeah, I mean, I agree. He might be a little overexposed right 83 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:59,438 now, but if I heard the news that he was cast as Braniac. I wouldn't hate it to be honest, 84 00:07:59,478 --> 00:08:04,199 because I think he's a fantastic actor. Yeah, I go back to his villain role in Ex Machina. 85 00:08:04,219 --> 00:08:09,521 Oh yeah. I think, just take that role and apply it to the character of Brainiac, that cold 86 00:08:09,561 --> 00:08:14,982 calculating persona. I think that'd be fantastic. It'd be perfect. For sure. Great answer, Jacob. 87 00:08:15,002 --> 00:08:21,184 Our next honorable mention goes to Lizzie Dyer Arnie. Who said? Hey, it's Lizzie. Definitely 88 00:08:21,224 --> 00:08:26,405 inspired by Invincible for this week's Question of the Week. I think Zachary Quinto would make 89 00:08:26,425 --> 00:08:31,800 an excellent Brainiac. He's a good villain and he can play a great character without emotion 90 00:08:31,860 --> 00:08:38,685 as we've seen in Robot Uninvincible and as Mr. Spock. Also, he can nail the monotone voice 91 00:08:38,725 --> 00:08:44,870 that is needed to play Brainiac. He'd be great in the DC universe. So yeah, when I think of 92 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:50,554 robotic actors, Zachary Quinto is definitely one of the few that comes to mind first. His 93 00:08:50,614 --> 00:08:57,478 turn as Spock was fantastic. Also, his villainous role in... the Heroes TV show has also sold 94 00:08:57,518 --> 00:09:01,700 me on this answer, I think he would be great in the role. Yeah, plus I don't know, for some 95 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,362 reason, Zachary Quinto just seems like a DC type of guy. Like he seems like he'd fit well 96 00:09:07,403 --> 00:09:12,585 into that universe of characters. Maybe because I'm associating his co-star Chris Pine with 97 00:09:12,605 --> 00:09:17,287 the Wonder Woman movies, but still I think yeah, Zachary Quinto would be fantastic in the role. 98 00:09:17,447 --> 00:09:21,188 Before we reveal the no prize winner, we want to give a quick shout out to Brandon Estregard, 99 00:09:24,602 --> 00:09:30,423 and Travis Herndon for calling in and leaving their answers. You guys all gave great answers, 100 00:09:30,463 --> 00:09:36,365 there was no wrong answer there. But the winner of this week's No Prize is Andrew Shunk, who 101 00:09:36,445 --> 00:09:42,366 said, Hey guys, Andrew Shunk here. The person who I think should play Brainiac is Damien 102 00:09:42,386 --> 00:09:50,429 Lewis. His acting in the movie Dreamcatcher was awesome. His acting in Homeland and the 103 00:09:50,789 --> 00:10:00,631 show Billions, he can play a very smart character. and is very cunning and has an evil side. So 104 00:10:00,691 --> 00:10:05,473 I think he'd be an excellent brainiac. Yeah, I don't know how much of a household name Damien 105 00:10:05,493 --> 00:10:09,774 Lewis is. I think if you Google him, you'll certainly recognize his face, but he is the 106 00:10:09,814 --> 00:10:14,935 lead actor on the Homeland series, and he's won a ton of accolades over the years and has 107 00:10:15,015 --> 00:10:19,997 really been poised to break out on the film scene. I think he has the look for the character. 108 00:10:20,097 --> 00:10:25,656 I think he looks hyper-intelligent. and sinister, he would just absolutely shine in a Brainiac 109 00:10:25,696 --> 00:10:30,900 role. Yeah, he was not my first choice for the role. But now that Andrew Shunk has given this 110 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:35,684 answer, I have a hard time thinking of someone who could do the job better. You're right. 111 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:41,488 He's not a household name, but I think he absolutely has above and beyond what it takes for the 112 00:10:41,528 --> 00:10:46,952 role. If he was cast tomorrow, I'd be like, oh, that's freaking perfect. Awesome. More 113 00:10:47,012 --> 00:10:51,228 perfect casting for this movie. So congrats to Andrew Shunk for winning this week's No 114 00:10:51,248 --> 00:10:55,011 Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned to later on this 115 00:10:55,051 --> 00:10:59,996 episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, on to 116 00:11:00,016 --> 00:11:00,537 the news. 117 00:11:06,062 --> 00:11:12,484 Okay, so last week we got to our first full trailer for the anime animated series, Suicide 118 00:11:12,504 --> 00:11:17,706 Squad Isakai. I had forgotten that this was a series, I was thinking this was a movie for 119 00:11:17,766 --> 00:11:22,448 some reason, so that was a nice surprise. Animes are known for their lengthy series. I'm not 120 00:11:22,468 --> 00:11:26,150 sure how long this one is going to run, but it looks like it's going to be pretty damn 121 00:11:26,170 --> 00:11:32,373 cool, so hopefully it fits good a long time. Of course, Isakai is a specific anime subgenre 122 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:39,445 where the main character or characters travel to a foreign land or a new world. In this case, 123 00:11:39,485 --> 00:11:45,170 it looks like the Suicide Squad is traveling to a Japanese mythical fantasy world, which 124 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:50,474 is interesting. I've never quite envisioned those characters in that specific setting. 125 00:11:50,895 --> 00:11:54,578 Yeah, it seems like it's just part of a plan by Amanda Waller. Like she wants to send the 126 00:11:54,638 --> 00:11:59,942 squad there for some reason. I'm sure that'll be a mystery, but the characters that are in 127 00:11:59,982 --> 00:12:07,347 this series look pretty badass, including Harley Quinn, Joker, Peacemaker, Clayface, Deadshot, 128 00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:11,890 and King Shark. Clayface was a huge surprise for me. Of course, he's a pretty prevalent 129 00:12:11,930 --> 00:12:16,653 character in the Harley Quinn animated series, as is King Shark also in this series. I'm really 130 00:12:16,673 --> 00:12:20,695 curious to learn more about why they chose the specific characters that they did. It's really 131 00:12:20,715 --> 00:12:26,939 interesting to see how these characters play into the Japanese archetypes. Seeing King Shark 132 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:32,218 as the big dumb brute is actually really satisfying when he's in anime mode. And same thing goes 133 00:12:32,258 --> 00:12:36,640 for the gun-toting badass that is Deadshot. And Harley Quinn, who's like, you know, the 134 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:40,662 manic pixie girl here. And that's what she always is, but it just feels fresh when you see it 135 00:12:40,742 --> 00:12:45,944 in the anime style. Yeah, it's a hella cool style. The voice work in the trailer is Japanese 136 00:12:45,964 --> 00:12:51,566 and it's, you know, pretty good voice work. I tend to be more of a fan of the subs over 137 00:12:51,586 --> 00:12:57,009 the dubs, and we'll see if they have both as an offering. We have no idea how we're going 138 00:12:57,049 --> 00:13:02,527 to be able to watch this yet. whether it's going to be available on iTunes or maybe even Max 139 00:13:02,667 --> 00:13:08,249 or another streaming platform. Crunchyroll maybe? Maybe, maybe. That would be cool for anime 140 00:13:08,269 --> 00:13:12,871 fans if it was. But sad for me because it's another platform for me to subscribe to, to 141 00:13:12,911 --> 00:13:17,013 review this. Because I want to review the hell out of this. I loved Batman Ninja. Yeah, the 142 00:13:17,033 --> 00:13:21,175 recent animated series My Adventures with Superman was heavily inspired by the anime style as 143 00:13:21,215 --> 00:13:28,506 well. And that was great. I've yet to come across anything DC and anime that isn't awesome. Hopefully 144 00:13:28,546 --> 00:13:33,251 this will be as well. Still not sure how everything is gonna work out in this fantasy land, but 145 00:13:33,291 --> 00:13:34,833 that brings us to our question of the week. 146 00:13:39,394 --> 00:13:45,957 What is your favorite alternate universe slash dimension for Marvel or DC? Yeah, there's a 147 00:13:45,997 --> 00:13:49,099 ton of them out there. For Marvel, like off the top of my head, there's like, you know, 148 00:13:49,119 --> 00:13:54,161 the Microverse, Kahn, Lunn, the Astral Plane, places like that, you know? And of course DC 149 00:13:54,181 --> 00:13:58,464 with the Multiverse, you have Earth 2, 3, 4, on and on and on, but you also have places 150 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:04,307 like Azeroth and Gemworld, the Phantom Zone. Let us know what your favorite is. Yeah, record 151 00:14:04,327 --> 00:14:07,889 your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right 152 00:14:07,929 --> 00:14:12,034 hand corner of the screen. which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could 153 00:14:12,054 --> 00:14:15,699 be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the 154 00:14:15,739 --> 00:14:20,266 podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that 155 00:14:20,286 --> 00:14:25,313 we'll post to Instagram and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before December 9th. 156 00:14:32,558 --> 00:14:36,202 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and get into 157 00:14:36,322 --> 00:14:42,169 the main event where we review Season 4 of the DC Maxx series, Doom Patrol. 158 00:14:57,358 --> 00:15:03,103 Okay, so the Doom Patrol concluded its fourth and final season last month. Despite originating 159 00:15:03,203 --> 00:15:08,668 on the now-defunct DC Universe streaming app, the show survived a transition to HBO Max, 160 00:15:08,988 --> 00:15:14,953 finishing up on the platform now simply known as Max, all while maintaining its dark, absurdist, 161 00:15:15,133 --> 00:15:20,858 laugh-out-loud, funny yet introspective tone. It's been consistently good in its past seasons, 162 00:15:21,179 --> 00:15:25,930 a show that I've recommended highly to anyone who'll listen. And this final season, in my 163 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:32,493 opinion, was a worthwhile conclusion to an emotionally beautiful show, albeit one that also defies 164 00:15:32,593 --> 00:15:38,295 the action-focused tropes of the superhero genre. Yeah, if you're looking for an action superhero 165 00:15:38,335 --> 00:15:43,957 television show, this is not it. If you're looking for weirdness, humor, and just saying what 166 00:15:43,977 --> 00:15:48,299 the fuck a lot, this is the show for you. It's a little bit more of a mellow, live-action 167 00:15:48,339 --> 00:15:53,801 version of the Harley Quinn show. Sure, yeah. But better, I think. It's more of a character 168 00:15:53,821 --> 00:15:58,764 study. than an action series. Absolutely. Since we'll be talking about how the series ends, 169 00:15:59,044 --> 00:16:04,027 make sure you watch the series, including the entire fourth season, before listening further 170 00:16:04,067 --> 00:16:09,390 because we will be going into spoilers. And the way these characters' stories ends is just 171 00:16:09,410 --> 00:16:13,592 so beautiful, you don't want to ruin it for yourself. Be sure to absolutely watch season 172 00:16:13,612 --> 00:16:18,815 4 before listening to this review. Now if you haven't finished the show, I totally get it. 173 00:16:19,035 --> 00:16:23,922 The release schedule for this fourth season was as absurd as the show itself. with the 174 00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:29,783 first episode of the season debuting in early December of last year, 2022, and the series 175 00:16:29,943 --> 00:16:35,785 ending almost one year later. I really like this show, but I didn't even start watching 176 00:16:35,825 --> 00:16:41,526 season 4 until they started releasing the second half of it in October. It's like, as HBO Max 177 00:16:41,566 --> 00:16:47,268 transitioned to Max, they forgot about Doom Patrol and the Shuffle, which is super discouraging 178 00:16:47,328 --> 00:16:51,949 as a fan of the series, and I feel like there has been little to no talk about it because 179 00:16:52,009 --> 00:16:57,371 people simply forgot about it. With Superhero Fatigue maybe unofficially setting in this 180 00:16:57,431 --> 00:17:01,893 year, it's especially bad for a show as good as Doom Patrol to be overlooked or dismissed. 181 00:17:02,413 --> 00:17:06,455 Though with this review coming out almost a month late, I guess we're as guilty as anyone 182 00:17:06,615 --> 00:17:11,097 for diminishing the importance of the show. Yeah, I blame you on that one. We should have 183 00:17:11,137 --> 00:17:15,459 reviewed this like a month ago. Well, there's so much that came out and there's so much to 184 00:17:15,499 --> 00:17:20,321 talk about. I don't know. Apologies to anyone who's a major fan who's been waiting for this 185 00:17:20,361 --> 00:17:26,462 review. Because it's an important show. I think it's so unique to the genre and more perhaps 186 00:17:26,522 --> 00:17:31,687 intellectual or at least psychological than really anything else out there right now from 187 00:17:31,747 --> 00:17:38,174 DC or Marvel. I mean sure, the show has zombie butts, but the show also makes you question 188 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:44,961 the humanity of the butt race. Yeah, the butts are creatures that have shown up since season 189 00:17:45,161 --> 00:17:50,079 1. of Doom Patrol and I was hesitant watching the trailers for this season, seeing them and 190 00:17:50,219 --> 00:17:54,080 feeling that they had kind of overstayed their welcome by this point, like the gag had kind 191 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,981 of run its course. And I feel that about a lot of the jokes within the show, like the what 192 00:17:58,021 --> 00:18:03,263 the fuck thing was just so overblown. But as the season progressed, I think they made brilliant 193 00:18:03,423 --> 00:18:09,024 use of all their long running jokes. Yeah, some of them become definitely eye roll worthy as 194 00:18:09,044 --> 00:18:14,406 we're now in season four. But I gotta say I'm gonna miss them for sure. Yeah, for sure. The 195 00:18:14,426 --> 00:18:18,630 show holds kind of a special place in my heart, even as a Marvel fan, just for its uniqueness, 196 00:18:18,690 --> 00:18:23,354 quirky. There's really nothing else like it. And I'll miss it. And I thought Loki season 197 00:18:23,394 --> 00:18:30,861 two went out with a bang. This is one of the most emotional, powerful endings to superhero 198 00:18:30,901 --> 00:18:36,026 television, television show, nay, any television show that I think has ever been made. I will 199 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:41,175 agree. I think they went out with an absolute bang. And I think they went out at just the 200 00:18:41,215 --> 00:18:45,999 right time as well. I think four seasons is probably good for a series, especially one 201 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:50,563 that started to sort of rehash some of the same storylines over and over. That was something 202 00:18:50,623 --> 00:18:54,987 I noticed, you know, each season kind of tends to be where like, oh, they're facing this huge 203 00:18:55,067 --> 00:18:58,630 threat and, you know, they become depressed, but they kind of like rally together at the 204 00:18:58,710 --> 00:19:03,734 end and bring themselves together to overcome, you know, whatever the threat is. You can only 205 00:19:03,794 --> 00:19:08,318 do that so many times. And I think they just about hit the wall with this season. but they 206 00:19:08,358 --> 00:19:14,121 also do a lot to make it feel special, I would say. Yeah, a lot of closure at the end, a lot 207 00:19:14,181 --> 00:19:18,583 of great resolution. Absolutely, and I would also say this is probably the most existential 208 00:19:18,723 --> 00:19:25,227 season of The Four, in that, you know, thematically, it revolved around mortality, which was appropriate 209 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:31,010 for a show in its final season. You know, the stakes and threat of death felt more tangible, 210 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:35,933 because as an audience, we knew any one of our favorite characters could be killed off in 211 00:19:35,953 --> 00:19:41,980 the final episodes. And it turns out a couple of them were. Did you cry? I will reveal that 212 00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:47,424 later. I'm not ready to. Fall my fucking eyes out, man. Oh, man, I was not even prepared 213 00:19:47,564 --> 00:19:53,688 for how this show ended. I was not even ready, but it got me so hard in the feels. And I felt 214 00:19:53,828 --> 00:19:59,132 like I was ugly crying, which I don't do. Like, I wouldn't say I'm terribly sensitive when 215 00:19:59,152 --> 00:20:03,975 it comes to emotional filmmaking, but. after spending four seasons with these characters 216 00:20:04,015 --> 00:20:09,219 and getting to know them inside and out and backwards and forwards and the way the show 217 00:20:09,259 --> 00:20:13,442 said goodbye to the characters, I almost think wasn't fair. Like they went so far pulling 218 00:20:13,482 --> 00:20:18,105 the heartstrings that I don't know if I'll ever recover from this final season. Yeah, I mean, 219 00:20:18,125 --> 00:20:22,047 they definitely pulled on the heartstrings, but in a way that didn't feel manipulative, 220 00:20:22,248 --> 00:20:27,791 I felt. Right. Oh, it was totally earned. Yeah, absolutely. It was a masterclass on how to 221 00:20:27,952 --> 00:20:33,372 do a perfect resolution for your characters. I think your words are really well said and 222 00:20:33,392 --> 00:20:36,895 I'm glad that I'm not the only one who cried because yes, since you admitted it, I will 223 00:20:36,935 --> 00:20:42,721 admit that I did as well. You got to be a machine, a robot man, not two, I feel like. Now of course, 224 00:20:42,861 --> 00:20:48,066 regarding the theme of mortality, you know, the Doom Patrol this season visited in the 225 00:20:48,106 --> 00:20:54,352 first episode, the future and learned that they're all dead without learning how they died. So 226 00:20:54,372 --> 00:20:58,510 when they returned to the present... You know, they were focused on preventing that future 227 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:04,072 while also over the course of the season, aging rapidly and having to deal with their bodies 228 00:21:04,112 --> 00:21:10,553 and minds failing them. As I get older, I find myself growing increasingly nervous about the 229 00:21:10,673 --> 00:21:16,595 aging process as like my knee starts to like not be a normal knee and just like hurt for 230 00:21:16,655 --> 00:21:21,936 no reason. Just weird random stuff like that, you know, you don't even think about in your 231 00:21:21,977 --> 00:21:28,547 20s. Aging is not a graceful process. And I think they kind of showed that in this show. 232 00:21:29,027 --> 00:21:33,269 Yeah, I think long-standing fans of Dynamic Duel know that we started this podcast on our 233 00:21:33,329 --> 00:21:38,972 30th birthday. We are now 37, and there is a world of difference, let me tell you, between 234 00:21:39,092 --> 00:21:47,277 30 and 37. Your body just basically wants to die. Yeah, especially after a heavy night of 235 00:21:47,317 --> 00:21:53,459 drinking. But yeah, considering that throughout the entire series, we're dealing with characters 236 00:21:53,499 --> 00:21:58,622 that have lived over the span of decades and have never aged, I think the stakes were sufficient 237 00:21:58,662 --> 00:22:04,244 this last season when their longevity was taken away. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, 238 00:22:04,304 --> 00:22:08,446 their whole superpower has essentially been longevity, or at least that was the main one 239 00:22:08,466 --> 00:22:13,888 that Nels Calder was sort of manipulating them for, created them for. So for that to be taken 240 00:22:13,928 --> 00:22:19,254 away from them definitely changed the dynamic of the show. And as good as this show is and 241 00:22:19,274 --> 00:22:25,357 this season was, it was 12 episodes, which was probably two or three episodes too long, I 242 00:22:25,417 --> 00:22:31,240 feel. You know, past seasons have ranged from 9 to 15 episodes, and I feel like they never 243 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,862 quite figured out the right amount of episodes to tell their story. Some seasons have felt 244 00:22:36,982 --> 00:22:42,245 way too short, you know, blame COVID for that. But some have also felt like they dragged on, 245 00:22:42,365 --> 00:22:47,116 you know, just to fill an episode quota. Yeah, season two felt too short, season three felt 246 00:22:47,156 --> 00:22:52,301 too long for sure. And I would say the first half of season four actually reminded me a 247 00:22:52,401 --> 00:22:56,085 lot of season three. I was getting a little bit nervous that they weren't going to be able 248 00:22:56,105 --> 00:23:01,350 to stick the landing on this final season. But by the time the latter half of season four 249 00:23:01,370 --> 00:23:05,234 rolled around, I was like, OK, they really hit their stride in this season. And it's starting 250 00:23:05,254 --> 00:23:10,498 to remind me more of the better seasons, seasons one and two. I agree. I agree. There were some 251 00:23:10,698 --> 00:23:15,361 early episodes in the first half, like Dorothy Spinner's episode that I thought was great, 252 00:23:15,541 --> 00:23:19,944 probably because I'm just a huge fan of Dorothy Spinner. But yeah, I would agree that once 253 00:23:19,984 --> 00:23:24,567 the show came back from its break, the pacing definitely improved. Yeah, I don't care about 254 00:23:24,687 --> 00:23:29,089 Cyborg playing laser tag with his friends and all the dramatic bullshit that they're going 255 00:23:29,109 --> 00:23:34,252 through. I agree. I agree. I think some of the episodes this season could have definitely 256 00:23:34,272 --> 00:23:39,759 been condensed into half episodes. If only to make room to explain events that happened off 257 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:44,461 screen. Like, I still don't know how Cliff and Jane got into Orquith. And also, I would have 258 00:23:44,481 --> 00:23:48,503 liked them to have fleshed out more of Dorothy's story, because I really feel like we didn't 259 00:23:48,523 --> 00:23:53,265 get to say goodbye to her at all. No, yes, you just kind of disappeared after the Immortimus 260 00:23:53,385 --> 00:23:57,467 episode. Yeah. And I don't like that. I don't like that. I would have liked to have said 261 00:23:57,507 --> 00:24:02,129 goodbye. Now, I may have felt differently about the episode count if there was a little more 262 00:24:02,249 --> 00:24:07,668 action this season overall. I think seasons 1 and 2 had a good amount of action, though 263 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:13,573 season 3 and 4 were kind of lacking that department. There weren't really any big standoffs, I guess 264 00:24:13,613 --> 00:24:19,638 is what I mean. Even at the end, when we finally saw Vic fire a laser and Jane transform into 265 00:24:19,698 --> 00:24:25,423 Silver Tongue, that battle was interrupted by a bunch of singing butts. Which probably sounds 266 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:31,528 good on paper, since the vibe of the show is more of a study of humanity than an action-packed 267 00:24:31,568 --> 00:24:35,499 superhero spectacle, as we've mentioned. And of course, that's what I like about it, but 268 00:24:35,539 --> 00:24:40,924 I'll admit the final battle felt fairly underwhelming in a way that say like Ezekiel the cockroach 269 00:24:40,964 --> 00:24:47,149 versus a giant rat didn't. Right. Well, I mean, the final battle was a cop out. How they resolved 270 00:24:47,189 --> 00:24:53,834 that with essentially two major antagonist villains and threats of the season joining together 271 00:24:53,955 --> 00:24:59,339 and making friends and everything being okay. That's a huge letdown. But you don't really 272 00:24:59,379 --> 00:25:04,432 watch Doom Patrol for action. True. Very true. You know, the show did a tremendous job of 273 00:25:04,532 --> 00:25:09,257 wrapping up the character story arcs and felt much more cathartic and satisfying than what 274 00:25:09,277 --> 00:25:14,303 we got from some other DC shows like Titans. But let's talk more about the characters and 275 00:25:14,323 --> 00:25:20,570 their character arcs in our character breakdown. Starting with Cliff Steele aka Robotman, who's 276 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:25,955 played by Brendan Fraser and Riley Shanahan. Brendan Fraser does the voice, Riley Shanahan 277 00:25:25,995 --> 00:25:31,358 is actually the guy in the suit. The two of them together combined make the character of 278 00:25:31,418 --> 00:25:38,001 Cliff way more likeable than the character has any right to be. Like Cliff is a fairly frustrating 279 00:25:38,041 --> 00:25:43,244 character in that he reliably makes bad decisions, even though his heart may be in the right place. 280 00:25:43,764 --> 00:25:51,369 But the final scene was so incredibly moving and beautiful and satisfying in that Cliff 281 00:25:51,429 --> 00:25:57,903 finally got what he wanted. that I felt a profound sense of loss once the credits started rolling. 282 00:25:58,043 --> 00:26:05,305 Like I was just sitting there in my bedroom, just like sad. Devastated, right? Like how 283 00:26:05,325 --> 00:26:11,186 dare this show just end with Cliff's eyes going dark, you know? That was the final shot. He 284 00:26:11,226 --> 00:26:15,808 got to see in that time crystal his grandson's entire life play out and he was like, this 285 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:22,929 is me coming home and then he dies and it's devastating. Like I was emotionally wrecked. 286 00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:27,512 Like, how could they do that? I don't know if it has to do with the fact that I have a daughter 287 00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:32,455 now. And just thinking about her becoming a grandparent down the line and everything like 288 00:26:32,475 --> 00:26:36,977 that and how her life is gonna play out, all the joys and sadness and everything. It just 289 00:26:37,077 --> 00:26:41,920 destroyed me. I think things like that definitely hit harder since I've become a parent. Although 290 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:47,443 I've been a parent for a while, bit longer than you now. But no, I agree. I think that definitely 291 00:26:47,463 --> 00:26:50,585 contributes. You start to think a little bit more about mortality, a little bit more about 292 00:26:50,645 --> 00:26:55,887 legacy. a little bit more about your children's lives and how you could improve that and what 293 00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:59,768 you could do for them and things like that. I think that was Cliff's whole arc this season. 294 00:27:00,408 --> 00:27:05,850 You say that you were devastated, but I wanna make sure we were devastated in the best way. 295 00:27:06,090 --> 00:27:12,012 Like we were sad, but it was a happy sad, like a heartwarming kind of sad. My heart was warmed, 296 00:27:12,412 --> 00:27:19,786 but also shattered into tiny little bits. That were warm. They were warm little bits. Yeah, 297 00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:24,650 but no his arc, you know, he lost his arm last season and he got a new one at the very beginning 298 00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:30,676 of this one built for him by Vic and his father Silas that had a sense of touch. Cliff created 299 00:27:30,776 --> 00:27:34,900 a hand puppet for himself using an ovedment so that the first thing he would touch would 300 00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:40,526 be his grandson Rory. But with him still suffering from Parkinson's disease, he distracts himself 301 00:27:40,546 --> 00:27:45,710 throughout the season with other projects and tasks and the knowledge and fear that he's 302 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:51,174 dying soon and desiring to leave some kind of legacy for his family before that happens. 303 00:27:51,814 --> 00:27:55,877 At a certain point in the season, Cliff gets so depressed about his mental condition that 304 00:27:55,917 --> 00:28:01,541 he gets suicidal, which was sad. But by the end of the show, and like we mentioned the 305 00:28:01,621 --> 00:28:06,384 final scene we see, the fact that he finally got his wish to be able to see his grandson 306 00:28:06,424 --> 00:28:13,329 grow up, and the fact that he's so at peace with that, that he just dies, I think is the 307 00:28:13,389 --> 00:28:17,704 perfect ending. for Cliff. Yeah, at first I thought it was a little bit tragic considering 308 00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:22,529 the characters got their youth back. They were restored to their former vitality only for 309 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:27,773 him to travel to Florida and realize that the Parkinson's is coming to claim him. I was like, 310 00:28:27,934 --> 00:28:32,418 that doesn't seem fair. Like he's talking about how he thinks maybe he moved to Florida to 311 00:28:32,458 --> 00:28:37,502 die. But when it happens, it was beautiful. Cliff can sometimes get a little grating over 312 00:28:37,542 --> 00:28:41,826 the course of the show, but I felt largely that he avoided that this season. I think mainly 313 00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:46,109 because the amount of stupid decisions he made was kept to a minimum. Even though he made 314 00:28:46,129 --> 00:28:49,952 some huge dumbass decisions like keeping the butt alive and stuff like that, but it came 315 00:28:49,972 --> 00:28:55,556 from a very touching place, I think. So when you can identify with Cliff's actions, he's 316 00:28:55,596 --> 00:29:00,840 endearing. When you don't identify with them, he is super annoying. And I feel like this 317 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:05,583 season went with the former a lot more. And you know, even when he does make mistakes, 318 00:29:05,783 --> 00:29:10,587 more often than not, they're accidents, right? So like leaving the freezer door open was an 319 00:29:10,687 --> 00:29:20,196 accident. Breaking the chief's spine. That was crazy. I was not expecting that. It happened 320 00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:25,301 so fast and I was like, wait, what? Poor Tim. First of all, I was so glad to see Timothy 321 00:29:25,321 --> 00:29:30,346 Dalton back in the role as the chief. Right. But to see the guy thrown into the corner of 322 00:29:30,386 --> 00:29:36,070 a bar was so freaking shocking. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. But then even after that, 323 00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:40,412 you know, Cliff made the correct decision in leaving Kim with his longevity. Even though 324 00:29:40,632 --> 00:29:46,274 he probably felt like that was another bad decision, it was also the right decision. So it's stuff 325 00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:50,096 like that where he makes up for some of the frustration associated with the character. 326 00:29:50,636 --> 00:29:55,318 Yeah, in the end, like kudos to the writers and to the performers for creating one of the 327 00:29:55,358 --> 00:30:02,441 most endearing, yet frustrating, asshole, yet teddy bear type character. Just a lot of conflicting 328 00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:08,596 emotions regarding Kim. Just a fantastic creation. I would love it so much if this show won a 329 00:30:08,616 --> 00:30:13,638 couple of Emmys. Like it deserves it, you know? I don't know if it'll happen, but I would love 330 00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:17,540 it if it did. At least for writing. Yeah, I think it would deserve it for sure. And you 331 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,822 know, some acting. Speaking of that, let's move on to Rita Farr slash Elastigwomen played by 332 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:28,705 April Bowlby. I've said it before, but April Bowlby deserves an Emmy for her performance, 333 00:30:28,845 --> 00:30:35,447 maybe more so last season. But she is consistently amazing in a role where she has to perform 334 00:30:35,627 --> 00:30:40,389 as someone almost constantly performing. Oh yeah, her performance is just a masterwork 335 00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:45,472 of technical acting. I'm surprised I don't see her more often in stuff. Right? April Bullby. 336 00:30:45,612 --> 00:30:50,093 Because she just seems like a good enough actress to do almost anything. And I wonder if she's 337 00:30:50,174 --> 00:30:54,155 almost too good in this role. I hope she doesn't get typecast or anything and that we see a 338 00:30:54,175 --> 00:30:59,637 lot more of her now that the show is over. Yeah, she needs to be in movies, I feel like. Yeah. 339 00:31:00,074 --> 00:31:05,177 Now after traveling back in time last season, Rita has lived the longest out of anyone else 340 00:31:05,217 --> 00:31:10,781 on the team and took it upon herself to lead the team, though early on this season the team 341 00:31:10,801 --> 00:31:15,784 betrays her and chooses Laura to take Rita's place as leader. A majority of the conflict 342 00:31:15,865 --> 00:31:20,788 this season for Rita came from her relationship with Laura, who committed the ultimate act 343 00:31:20,808 --> 00:31:26,032 of betrayal last season in being responsible for the death of Malcolm, Rita's lover. Now 344 00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:31,872 I'd say Rita's character took a step back. from last season and that she somewhat goes back 345 00:31:31,892 --> 00:31:37,556 to her self-centered D.Va personality. Ultimately, as she says herself, she wasn't right to lead 346 00:31:37,636 --> 00:31:43,841 the team in battle so much as lead them into lives beyond the Doom Patrol because she cares 347 00:31:43,861 --> 00:31:49,826 about them. And in the final episode, after she herself dies, she disbands the Doom Patrol 348 00:31:50,026 --> 00:31:55,138 and is able to reunite with Malcolm in the afterlife, which I was really happy to see. I don't know 349 00:31:55,178 --> 00:32:02,122 if I like the funeral pyre scene because I felt it was somewhat disrespectful. But you know, 350 00:32:02,242 --> 00:32:07,084 as Laura mentioned during that scene, like there's nothing really beautiful about death. Yeah, 351 00:32:07,185 --> 00:32:12,087 I mean, it kind of subverted the emotions that the viewer was feeling seeing one of, you know, 352 00:32:12,107 --> 00:32:17,390 their beloved characters pass on. But it did it in the best way possible in the show's trademark 353 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:22,513 humor. And really, you got further payoff later on that episode when you saw her reunite with 354 00:32:22,593 --> 00:32:29,287 Malcolm. I don't begrudge them that great bit of comedy. Yeah, it was so good. For my money, 355 00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:34,652 it was the best gag in the whole show. Definitely the best gag of the season, I would say for 356 00:32:34,672 --> 00:32:40,617 sure. Moving on to Larry Trainor, aka Negative Man. He was played by Matt Bomer and Matthew 357 00:32:40,657 --> 00:32:45,482 Zuck. We can't really see their performance. We don't get any facial performances or anything 358 00:32:45,502 --> 00:32:49,245 like that. I would say, though, it's still a good performance and that it's still moving. 359 00:32:49,682 --> 00:32:55,144 Last season, Larry nurtured a giant cocoon that eventually hatched into an infant negative 360 00:32:55,184 --> 00:33:02,067 spirit entity named Kieg Bovo. After being forced to abandon his prior family, Larry became very 361 00:33:02,107 --> 00:33:06,849 protective over Kieg, who seemingly becomes angry with Larry after conversing with his 362 00:33:06,889 --> 00:33:12,011 future self in the first episode of the season and believing that he may be responsible for 363 00:33:12,051 --> 00:33:17,653 Larry's death. With Larry afraid that no one will be there to care for Kieg if he dies, 364 00:33:17,986 --> 00:33:24,151 Things become more complicated when Mr. 104, aka Rama, enters the scene as a villain allied 365 00:33:24,191 --> 00:33:29,876 with Immortus to capture the team's longevity. Though Larry and Rama find a connection in 366 00:33:29,896 --> 00:33:35,481 that they're both dying and can't harm each other with their radiation, Larry rejects Rama 367 00:33:35,801 --> 00:33:40,485 after the promise that Immortus would grant their wishes proved to be a lie. By the end, 368 00:33:40,526 --> 00:33:46,795 however, Larry regains his longevity and, deciding that he is actually worthy of love, rescues 369 00:33:46,855 --> 00:33:52,039 Rama from the bottom of the ocean, and the two seemingly merge in space with Keeg, the three 370 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:57,383 of them able to exist together as a ball of energy or like a miniature sun out in space. 371 00:33:57,403 --> 00:34:03,828 Larry has lived up to his name as Negative Man throughout the series, consistently being something 372 00:34:03,868 --> 00:34:09,452 of a downer, so it was nice to see that the writers found a way to give him a perfect ending, 373 00:34:09,772 --> 00:34:14,775 like the others, like no downside. Yeah, after spending a lifetime of going through so much 374 00:34:14,815 --> 00:34:19,337 shit, it was nice to see all these guys really get the ending that they deserved. There is 375 00:34:19,377 --> 00:34:23,578 no exception. And I thought it was really cool that he turned into a star, you know? Yeah, 376 00:34:23,878 --> 00:34:30,641 very poetic. Moving on to Crazy Jane, aka Kay Chalice. She was played by Diane Guerrero. 377 00:34:30,801 --> 00:34:36,777 Normally- I'd be praising Diane's Emmy worthy performance as not only Jane but other alternate 378 00:34:36,817 --> 00:34:41,481 personas of the character but we really didn't get to see any of that this season and that's 379 00:34:41,521 --> 00:34:47,145 always sort of been like my favorite part of the performance that is Crazy Jane. Well we 380 00:34:47,185 --> 00:34:51,748 had the psychiatrist lady in the first couple of episodes but yeah that quickly went away. 381 00:34:52,269 --> 00:34:58,333 Right. At first I thought Jane's arc here was going to be a healing journey from the incident 382 00:34:58,353 --> 00:35:04,174 that caused Jane to exist to begin with, which was sexual trauma when her boyfriend took her 383 00:35:04,214 --> 00:35:08,518 to an orgy and she had to defend herself. And so I thought it was going to be like this kind 384 00:35:08,558 --> 00:35:13,662 of sexual awakening into a relationship and finding her new purpose in that and kind of 385 00:35:13,742 --> 00:35:18,306 healing from the hurt that she felt previously. And it kind of went that route, but it really 386 00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:23,050 went about it in an awkward way with scenes of like, masturbation that were kind of hard 387 00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:28,054 to watch. Yeah, I think it was supposed to be awkward too, though. You know, her arc this 388 00:35:28,074 --> 00:35:34,997 season was interesting in that Kay wanted her to find a purpose for herself outside of protecting 389 00:35:35,037 --> 00:35:39,719 Kay. Because as we came to learn, Kay and the Underground were healing from the ancestral 390 00:35:39,799 --> 00:35:44,981 trauma that Kay had sustained as a child. You know, but with Jane cut off from the Underground, 391 00:35:45,021 --> 00:35:49,648 she wasn't able to heal like the others. and was left to face the conflicts of the season 392 00:35:49,788 --> 00:35:55,633 alone, attempting to mature and age in a body she felt didn't really belong to her. And I 393 00:35:55,673 --> 00:36:00,617 think that's where sort of some of the awkwardness came from. But by the end of the season, Jane 394 00:36:00,657 --> 00:36:07,423 realizes that K's body was hers, that it belonged to all of the personas, as they also remembered 395 00:36:07,463 --> 00:36:12,387 the trauma they'd endured. And Jane was able to merge with the other personas to form one 396 00:36:12,427 --> 00:36:18,307 persona named Kaleidoscope, or K for short. and was willing to risk romantic love once 397 00:36:18,347 --> 00:36:23,531 again. It was such a beautiful ending for the character above and beyond what I thought was 398 00:36:23,591 --> 00:36:29,335 possible, though I did think her relationship with Casey felt a bit rushed. Yeah, but they 399 00:36:29,355 --> 00:36:32,797 seem like a good match for each other. Actually, you know what? They didn't really have any 400 00:36:32,837 --> 00:36:36,820 chemistry at all, but I like to believe that all of these characters kind of got their happy 401 00:36:36,860 --> 00:36:41,323 ending, so I'm choosing to believe that they were just meant to be. I guess they did have 402 00:36:41,363 --> 00:36:45,946 the connection that they both felt like they weren't real people, so there's that. Moving 403 00:36:46,046 --> 00:36:52,370 on to Vic Stone, aka Cyborg. He was played by Joyvon Wade. I've honestly never really cared 404 00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:56,893 for this show's take on Cyborg, though I do think Joyvon gives a good performance as the 405 00:36:56,953 --> 00:37:02,758 character. But removing Cyborg's tech is probably the least interesting thing you could do with 406 00:37:02,798 --> 00:37:08,041 the character. And I think this season took a little too long in getting Vic to realize 407 00:37:08,141 --> 00:37:13,665 he should be Cyborg. Like you, I didn't care for the whole reuniting with old friends story 408 00:37:13,725 --> 00:37:18,878 arc. just felt like an unnecessary subplot, but I guess having an old techie friend was 409 00:37:18,918 --> 00:37:23,442 a good way to introduce upgrades to the character. I just wish that friend was an established 410 00:37:23,502 --> 00:37:28,126 comic character, like William Magnus or something like that, you know? That would have been exciting. 411 00:37:28,606 --> 00:37:33,050 Yeah, I think like I mentioned in my review for the She-Hulk television series, it's not 412 00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:38,255 very interesting watching a superhero actively try not to be a superhero, especially when 413 00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:44,858 that superhero is badass, you know? Right. Exactly. I do suppose that having Vic realize this dream 414 00:37:44,898 --> 00:37:50,020 of giving back to the community as a mentor figure was as satisfying a conclusion as the 415 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,801 character could have had, though a more perfect ending, I think would have been a cameo from 416 00:37:54,821 --> 00:38:00,263 the Titan show characters, at the very least a Beast Boy, you know, just like the cameo 417 00:38:00,283 --> 00:38:04,724 that cyborg had in the Titan show. Yeah, I was expecting something like that. I was expecting 418 00:38:04,744 --> 00:38:08,945 that kind of crossover, but it never happened. And so it made the crossover in the Titan show 419 00:38:09,045 --> 00:38:14,031 feel even more pointless and empty. Absolutely. Especially considering the fact that, you know, 420 00:38:14,311 --> 00:38:19,235 this version of the Doom Patrol is an alternate version from the one that debuted in Titans. 421 00:38:19,595 --> 00:38:24,698 But now we know that Beast Boy can traverse the multiverse. So why not do it? Right. Or 422 00:38:24,738 --> 00:38:28,801 instead of the Titans, maybe it would have been cool to see him graduate from the Doom Patrol 423 00:38:28,861 --> 00:38:32,844 into the Justice League. You know, that would be a cool ending for him, too. I guess I shouldn't 424 00:38:32,864 --> 00:38:39,228 say boom. Booyah. Moving on to the final character, Laura DeMille, AKA Madame Rouge. She was played 425 00:38:39,268 --> 00:38:45,900 by Michelle Gomez. The women. Actresses in this show kill it. If you can't have Timothy Dalton-Snyles 426 00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:51,863 Calder in the show, Michelle Gomez is a fantastic runner-up. Yeah, she's fantastic at portraying 427 00:38:52,003 --> 00:38:57,586 the inner conflict of Madame Rouge. Oh yeah, 100%. Great character actor, you constantly 428 00:38:57,646 --> 00:39:02,488 know sort of like what emotion she's feeling. Just with her eyes and her facial features, 429 00:39:02,668 --> 00:39:08,083 it's fun to watch Michelle Gomez give the performance. Now Laura had a bigger role this season than 430 00:39:08,143 --> 00:39:14,305 probably any other character on the team. In a way, I think she supplanted Rita as one of 431 00:39:14,325 --> 00:39:20,108 the show's five main leads. Not only was she the team's leader, giving her more agency than 432 00:39:20,148 --> 00:39:25,170 many others on the show, but she was put in positions such as facing off against Immortus 433 00:39:25,291 --> 00:39:30,553 first or making others realize that they were in an alternate musical reality that gave her 434 00:39:30,573 --> 00:39:35,563 more screen time. She questioned whether she was good or bad as she continued to feel guilt 435 00:39:35,643 --> 00:39:40,724 over her past actions and I'm still not quite sure how I feel about her conclusion, you know, 436 00:39:40,984 --> 00:39:45,726 where she essentially tries to burn down the ant farm. Like, okay, that's kind of in keeping 437 00:39:45,746 --> 00:39:50,827 with the character, but was she successful or did she go out in a blaze of glory and get 438 00:39:50,867 --> 00:39:55,168 killed in the process? We'll never know. I like to think she was successful. She was good enough, 439 00:39:55,428 --> 00:39:58,629 I think, to bring that whole thing down and the Brotherhood had normally needed to be brought 440 00:39:58,669 --> 00:40:03,324 down. In the end, I think she kind of transformed into an antihero type character, which is pretty 441 00:40:03,384 --> 00:40:09,047 cool. Oh, that is cool. Yeah, I'll take that. That's an acceptable answer. She kind of found 442 00:40:09,067 --> 00:40:15,411 that happy medium for herself where she's doing moral good through amoral actions, like the 443 00:40:15,451 --> 00:40:19,593 Punisher or something like that. You know, the Brotherhood of Normalcy and the Outfarm is 444 00:40:19,653 --> 00:40:24,135 an evil organization. They do a lot of evil shit and she will burn them all alive with 445 00:40:24,156 --> 00:40:28,458 a flamethrower if she has to. I think that's great. I think that makes sense for her. Yeah, 446 00:40:28,478 --> 00:40:32,861 and that sounds really dangerous for the character, which is fantastic. I wish we could almost 447 00:40:32,881 --> 00:40:38,465 see her continue her journey. It was at times frustrating seeing her struggle with her morality, 448 00:40:38,645 --> 00:40:42,607 like when she would often bail on the team to go drink vodka or something like that. It wasn't 449 00:40:42,647 --> 00:40:47,050 terribly exciting to watch, but I really chalked that up more to the season having too many 450 00:40:47,131 --> 00:40:52,054 episodes than anything really regarding the performance of the character. I agree. I feel 451 00:40:52,074 --> 00:40:55,796 the same way 100 percent. But now that we've talked about each of the characters, let's 452 00:40:55,816 --> 00:40:57,117 get into our story highlights. 453 00:41:03,394 --> 00:41:08,376 Hey guys, Johnny DC here to remind you that this show is partnered with cufflinks.com to 454 00:41:08,416 --> 00:41:14,538 save you money this season on your Marvel and DC men's accessories. You can get 20% off anything 455 00:41:14,618 --> 00:41:22,681 on the site when you use the code dual 20. That's D U E L 20 at checkout. It's our little way 456 00:41:22,721 --> 00:41:26,943 of saving you some green while holiday shopping and it's a great way for you to support this 457 00:41:26,963 --> 00:41:32,225 show. When you visit cufflinks.com be sure to also check out the other merch they offer. 458 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:38,735 from Star Trek to the NFL, there's something there for every fan out there. I for one saved 459 00:41:38,815 --> 00:41:44,119 on their Superman Hidden Message Silver Tie Bar, which as the name implies has a secret 460 00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:50,305 message on the backside that says, Truth, Justice, and the American Way. The front has the iconic 461 00:41:50,345 --> 00:41:56,450 Superman logo and it's my special way of showing off my fandom while remaining stylish and sophisticated. 462 00:41:56,890 --> 00:42:03,415 You can do that too for less. Again, by visiting cufflinks.com and using the code dual 20 at 463 00:42:03,475 --> 00:42:11,558 checkout to get 20% off. Thanks guys. Episode one was titled Doom Patrol. Rita for struggles 464 00:42:11,598 --> 00:42:17,961 to lead the Doom Patrol now a superhero team against a villain known as codpiece. After 465 00:42:18,001 --> 00:42:23,323 the battle, Vic and Silas stone successfully repair Cliff's robotic hand granting him a 466 00:42:23,403 --> 00:42:29,245 sense of touch. Cliff proposes using the time machine to travel to his grandson Rory in Florida. 467 00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:34,769 But after colliding with Isabelle Feathers, an amateur actress from their hometown of Cloverton, 468 00:42:35,029 --> 00:42:41,594 in the timestream, a malfunction sends them to the year 2042. They encounter an older version 469 00:42:41,714 --> 00:42:47,718 of Vic, who reveals that zombified werebots have destroyed the world and that the other 470 00:42:47,738 --> 00:42:52,562 members of the Doom Patrol have died, except for Laura DeMille, who abandoned the team. 471 00:42:52,882 --> 00:42:57,765 While the Doom Patrol are distracted, speaking with their spirits that now haunt Doom Manor, 472 00:42:58,306 --> 00:43:03,869 Future Vic tries to use the time machine to travel back to the past and stop the Butt Pocalypse. 473 00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:09,934 The team manages to stop him and travel back in time just as they escape a horde of were-butt 474 00:43:10,014 --> 00:43:15,998 zombies. In the present, Jane becomes the dominant persona of her body once again and Larry's 475 00:43:16,098 --> 00:43:22,682 new young energy spirit, Keeg, refuses to communicate with him. Meanwhile- Willoughby Kipling meets 476 00:43:22,722 --> 00:43:28,944 the Knights Templar and learns of a prophecy about the impending arrival of Immortus. The 477 00:43:28,984 --> 00:43:33,725 fight against Codpiece was freaking hilarious. Like they find him disgusting to fight, you 478 00:43:33,745 --> 00:43:38,426 know, but like there's that part where Elastigirl has to like point his gun away from the team. 479 00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:43,788 And so she has to like grab his crotch weapon kind of thing and like pull it away. I was 480 00:43:43,848 --> 00:43:49,969 dying of laughter. I was rolling. I thought it was funny when Laura DeMille went up against 481 00:43:50,009 --> 00:43:54,589 him. and her like crotch laser is tiny and he's like just staring at it for a while. And he's 482 00:43:54,609 --> 00:44:01,835 like, are you trying to body shame me? It was such a good moment. Trying to clear up any 483 00:44:01,895 --> 00:44:07,259 like time travel paradoxes or anything presented here. I guess I do have a question in that 484 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:12,804 the Doom Patrol actually didn't do anything to stop the apocalypse. It was the actions 485 00:44:12,844 --> 00:44:18,368 of that one scientist lady that taught the butts to like musicals. Right. So why did the apocalypse 486 00:44:18,408 --> 00:44:23,095 happen in this future timeline? I guess the only difference was that this team crashed 487 00:44:23,235 --> 00:44:29,137 into Isabelle Feathers while going through the time stream and that created the Immortus paradox 488 00:44:29,297 --> 00:44:37,040 wherein her villainy resulted in a kind of cancellation of the Werebup apocalypse, right? Yeah, I think 489 00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:41,822 Isabelle Feathers has everything to do with any kind of paradox. Her introduction to the 490 00:44:41,862 --> 00:44:47,225 timeline kind of threw everything for a loop. I also really laughed when they crashed into 491 00:44:47,285 --> 00:44:52,939 Isabelle Feathers in their time machine. And Madame Rouge was like, oh God, she likes to 492 00:44:52,979 --> 00:45:01,283 watch people pee. That's right. It was such a throwaway thing in season three when Isabelle 493 00:45:01,323 --> 00:45:05,765 Feathers fell into that hole. It was interesting that they brought that character back to be 494 00:45:05,805 --> 00:45:10,127 like, be the main bad guy for the season. Yeah. It turned out to have quite the ramifications 495 00:45:10,148 --> 00:45:15,310 for this entire season. Oh yeah, absolutely. The next episode was titled. Butt Patrol, in 496 00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:20,514 which Rita attempts to lead the team in preventing the bleak future they witnessed, but the team 497 00:45:20,534 --> 00:45:26,800 rejects her leadership and makes Laura the new leader to Rita's dismay. Laura and Cliff suspecting 498 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,124 Darren Jones, the former head of the ant farm, to be the cause of the zombie chaos, embark 499 00:45:32,184 --> 00:45:37,888 on a solo mission to find and stop him, while Jane and Vic pose as Bureau of Normalcy agents 500 00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:44,878 to contact the Butt Hunter, keeper of the last living zombie werebot. At the manor, Keeg brushes 501 00:45:45,038 --> 00:45:50,641 off Larry while Rita confronts him for supporting Laura. Larry spills about Rita's leadership 502 00:45:50,661 --> 00:45:55,464 flaws and his desire for a good relationship with Keeg, while Laura and Cliff find Darren, 503 00:45:55,684 --> 00:46:01,787 now a zombie farmer, whom Cliff regretfully kills. The team reunites at the manor with 504 00:46:01,867 --> 00:46:08,331 Vic and Jane, securing the last zombie were-butt, Frozen, which Cliff is tasked with destroying, 505 00:46:08,671 --> 00:46:14,526 though he's unable to bring himself to do so. Unbeknownst to everyone, One more were-butt 506 00:46:14,626 --> 00:46:20,448 lives in hiding with a former employee of the Bureau of Normalcy named Dr. Margaret Yu. Now 507 00:46:20,468 --> 00:46:24,289 I have to ask, was like the butt hunter supposed to be like a twin brother of the beard hunter 508 00:46:24,369 --> 00:46:29,750 or something? They didn't look similar but they were both bizarre characters. I just love that 509 00:46:29,770 --> 00:46:34,772 they exist. It's just freaking hilarious. Maybe they could team up and fight crime together. 510 00:46:34,832 --> 00:46:40,793 Do you know if the butts have any roots in the source material? I don't believe that they 511 00:46:40,833 --> 00:46:45,847 do but I could- totally be wrong. I haven't read like all of the Doom Patrol comics. So 512 00:46:45,927 --> 00:46:51,748 maybe, but I don't think so. The visual of them singing and dancing was just so bizarre. I 513 00:46:51,788 --> 00:46:55,209 think I mentioned this every time we review a season from the show, but like just thinking 514 00:46:55,249 --> 00:47:00,090 about popping someone randomly in the middle of one of these episodes and see them witnessing 515 00:47:00,131 --> 00:47:05,792 some of the strangeness that is within the show would be actually an enjoyable experience because 516 00:47:05,812 --> 00:47:14,114 they would be going, what the fuck? No, honestly, legit. That is my wife who tends to pop in 517 00:47:14,214 --> 00:47:18,776 as I'm watching the show. I think it might be just a little bit too weird and absurd for 518 00:47:18,796 --> 00:47:23,717 the average viewer, but absolutely when she sees stuff from the show, she's like, this 519 00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:32,460 is a really weird show. Moving on to episode 3, which was titled Nostalgia Patrol, Vic reconnects 520 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,221 with his old pals, including his former best friend Derek, who calls out Vic for keeping 521 00:47:37,261 --> 00:47:42,467 his distance post-accident. Though Derek gives Vic an old toy robot they built together for 522 00:47:42,527 --> 00:47:47,669 safekeeping. Rita receives an invite from a film festival showing the classic movies that 523 00:47:47,689 --> 00:47:53,412 she starred in, which she attends, only to get physically sucked into the world of her films. 524 00:47:53,932 --> 00:47:58,874 To help Laura make amends with Rita for taking over leadership of the team, the Doom Patrol 525 00:47:58,914 --> 00:48:04,336 attends Rita's screening, but also gets sucked into the movies, though Laura manages to escape. 526 00:48:04,676 --> 00:48:10,570 Within the movie verse, they meet Oliver Truman, who reveals that Dr. Yanis is attempting to 527 00:48:10,610 --> 00:48:16,792 drain Rita's emotions. The team finds Rita, but Truman, revealed to be a villain named 528 00:48:16,932 --> 00:48:24,374 Mr. 104, aka Rama, traps them on the set of the movie Spartacus 452. Yanis urges Rita to 529 00:48:24,435 --> 00:48:30,896 save her pals, siphoning emotions for a mortis. Keek swoops in, rescuing the gang, but Rita 530 00:48:30,936 --> 00:48:36,194 goes unconscious before they are all teleported back to reality. This was probably my least 531 00:48:36,274 --> 00:48:41,457 favorite episode, though I would say that one of my favorite moments of the entire season 532 00:48:41,637 --> 00:48:46,620 was the scene where Cliff and Jane were in the horror film. And they're like, this isn't scary 533 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,182 at all. And then they're like, oh, holy shit. When they like saw the kid, we're hiding in 534 00:48:50,222 --> 00:48:56,525 the closet from him. I do like when the show kind of explores different genres in that way. 535 00:48:57,106 --> 00:49:02,950 literally taking us into an old romance movie, then an old horror film, then like a 1970 sci-fi 536 00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:07,253 film. That's always interesting to see, but yeah, the Vic stuff here really sapped the 537 00:49:07,293 --> 00:49:12,316 momentum of anything interesting that was happening. Also my least favorite episode. Honestly, if 538 00:49:12,396 --> 00:49:17,099 I was Vic and I was around like those crybaby friends, I'd be like, well, thought you guys 539 00:49:17,139 --> 00:49:23,504 were cool. Fuck you guys. And just walk out. Yeah, same. I'm like, I'm a goddamn superhero. 540 00:49:23,524 --> 00:49:29,151 I don't need this shit. But also like I'm an adult. Right, right. Whatever. Next episode 541 00:49:29,171 --> 00:49:35,216 was titled Casey Patrol. Sometime after parting ways with the Doom Patrol, Dorothy has managed 542 00:49:35,296 --> 00:49:40,580 to reacquire her father Niles Calder's necklace, which was used to keep him immortal in order 543 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:45,504 to conjure his spirit and reunite with him. While staying with Danny the Street and their 544 00:49:45,564 --> 00:49:51,288 residents, she distances herself from the rest of the community. One night, a swarm of cybernetic 545 00:49:51,408 --> 00:49:58,085 bugs invades the street. converting the residents into robots, minus Dorothy and Mara Lee. Dorothy 546 00:49:58,125 --> 00:50:03,330 realizes the robots are the same ones from her favorite comic book series, Space Case, and 547 00:50:03,370 --> 00:50:09,455 manages to materialize the heroine Space Case, aka Casey Brink. Dorothy and Casey explain 548 00:50:09,475 --> 00:50:16,021 to Mara Lee that the attack is orchestrated by Torminox, Casey's nemesis who is also her 549 00:50:16,101 --> 00:50:21,665 father. The trio confronts Torminox in real life, but Casey hesitates to take him down. 550 00:50:22,082 --> 00:50:28,103 while he manages to capture Dany and defeat the Candlemaker easily. Later, Casey attempts 551 00:50:28,143 --> 00:50:33,525 to plead with Torminox, but he ignores her while demanding Dorothy's necklace. She hands it 552 00:50:33,605 --> 00:50:38,746 over while revealing that she had never reunited with Calder, and she was trying to distance 553 00:50:38,786 --> 00:50:44,688 herself from Dany and the others to not be reminded of him. After Torminox retreats with the necklace, 554 00:50:45,088 --> 00:50:50,109 Mara Lee gathers the community and implores them to embrace the real world when they are 555 00:50:50,169 --> 00:50:55,741 ready. Casey and Dorothy decide to go to Cloverton to find the author of the Space Case comic 556 00:50:55,761 --> 00:51:01,705 book. Unbeknownst to them, the author is working with Yannis and Torminox and preparing for 557 00:51:01,765 --> 00:51:07,128 Immortus' arrival as the author tells Torminox that Immortus might help them live out their 558 00:51:07,188 --> 00:51:12,952 dreams. Now, I didn't know that Space Case was going to be in this season at all. I remember 559 00:51:13,052 --> 00:51:17,315 you talking about her going into your Danny the Street backstory in their duel episode 560 00:51:17,355 --> 00:51:17,636 against 561 00:51:20,858 --> 00:51:25,099 Yeah, I was surprised as well. I was also surprised by the origin they gave her and that Danny 562 00:51:25,139 --> 00:51:29,680 didn't bring her to life. But Dorothy did. I thought that made a little bit more sense. 563 00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:35,842 Yeah, I do love how Moralee kept misnaming Torminox. She was calling him like TurboTax and Tampax 564 00:51:35,882 --> 00:51:41,483 and stuff like that. Yeah, that was funny. That was good. How do you feel about Sabretooth 565 00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:46,545 being Torminox? I didn't realize that until the end credits. You know, he was covered in 566 00:51:46,585 --> 00:51:50,514 such heavy makeup and prosthetics. I didn't even recognize Tyler Mane. Yeah, neither did 567 00:51:50,634 --> 00:51:55,215 I. I did like this episode again, because I think I'm just a fan of Dorothy. So I'm glad 568 00:51:55,235 --> 00:51:59,676 she kind of got an episode all to herself, just so we could get like a recap of what she's 569 00:51:59,696 --> 00:52:03,457 been up to. Even though, you know, the recap we got at the beginning of the episode turned 570 00:52:03,477 --> 00:52:08,619 out to be a lie. I was a little bit surprised that she ended up back on Downey the Street, 571 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,360 considering that for the longest time, she felt that living there was a prison. True. Right. 572 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,001 I know she clearly felt that way back on him again that she had just wound up in another 573 00:52:18,041 --> 00:52:22,126 prison. After spending time with the dead boy detectives, I'm surprised they didn't just 574 00:52:22,166 --> 00:52:28,108 have her go straight back to Doom Manor. Right. Moving on to the next episode, titled Youth 575 00:52:28,168 --> 00:52:33,770 Patrol, Larry attempts to track down Keeg and encounters Mr. 104, who has been forced to 576 00:52:33,810 --> 00:52:39,951 host Keeg in his body. Through Keeg, Larry learns that Mr. 104 was once a man named Rama, who 577 00:52:39,991 --> 00:52:45,073 was constantly being experimented on by the Bureau. As a result, Rama has joined forces 578 00:52:45,253 --> 00:52:50,359 with Yanis and pledged to a mortis. hoping to reverse his condition before it goes out of 579 00:52:50,399 --> 00:52:56,104 control and causes a mass extinction event. Larry pleads with Rama to find an alternative 580 00:52:56,144 --> 00:53:01,688 solution. Just as King returns to Larry's body, a dimensional portal sucks him in and Rama 581 00:53:01,728 --> 00:53:07,732 follows in pursuit. At the manor, Kipling reveals to the Doom Patrol about Immortus, who is an 582 00:53:07,852 --> 00:53:14,317 ancient deity capable of eliminating reality. He also reveals that Calder once spoke of having 583 00:53:14,417 --> 00:53:20,069 a piece of Immortus. which he used as a catalyst for his necklace, as well as his experiments 584 00:53:20,129 --> 00:53:25,654 on Larry, Rita, Cliff, and Jane to retain their longevity. Rita wakes up and finds that she 585 00:53:25,694 --> 00:53:31,579 is aging, prompting her to look in Calder's office for a remedy. She breaks a vial containing 586 00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:37,303 a de-aging spell, which also affects the Doom Patrol and Kipling. The team set out to find 587 00:53:37,343 --> 00:53:43,248 Kipling's mentor to reverse the spell, but the team, driven by their youthful demeanor, decide 588 00:53:43,268 --> 00:53:48,700 to attend a pool party. Rita and Laura break off on their own and finally make amends after 589 00:53:48,740 --> 00:53:54,423 a tearful conversation. After talking to Jane about friendship, Vic decides to go and see 590 00:53:54,523 --> 00:54:00,146 Derek, though he turns into a child by the time he gets there. As the de-aging spell accelerates, 591 00:54:00,526 --> 00:54:06,110 Bunbury and the Knights Templar arrive at the party and turn Kipling back to normal while 592 00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:11,153 Bunbury proceeds to extract Jane's longevity after she turns into a baby. I thought this 593 00:54:11,173 --> 00:54:15,127 was a great concept for an episode. For some reasons, you know, seeing superheroes de-aged 594 00:54:15,167 --> 00:54:20,011 into their kid forms is always a fascinating type of character study. Like with the X-Babies, 595 00:54:20,512 --> 00:54:23,735 that's what it reminds me of from the comic books. That was pretty interesting. But yeah, 596 00:54:23,775 --> 00:54:28,559 just another great way to explore these characters. Of course, Cliff, ever the tragic character, 597 00:54:29,019 --> 00:54:34,243 you know, gets his brain de-aged while his body is still a giant robot. But yeah, I thought 598 00:54:34,263 --> 00:54:38,287 it was interesting just hearing like the different things that they went through as teenagers 599 00:54:38,327 --> 00:54:42,170 and growing up and stuff like that. Particularly the character of Jane, because it was interesting 600 00:54:42,190 --> 00:54:46,694 that she never really had a child. That was all, you know, Miranda's time, the former main 601 00:54:46,834 --> 00:54:51,779 dominant persona. So one thing I found interesting in this episode as well was that this whole 602 00:54:51,819 --> 00:54:59,405 concept of Immortus as this like powerful deity, of course, he's not that in the comics. General 603 00:54:59,445 --> 00:55:05,666 Immortus was the one responsible for the chief's paralysis in the comics. He's just a bad guy, 604 00:55:05,746 --> 00:55:10,049 essentially. Not an all-powerful bink. It just seemed more like the Marvel version of Immortus 605 00:55:10,249 --> 00:55:16,032 to me, who is a Time Lord variant of King the Conqueror. It's almost like the DC writers 606 00:55:16,052 --> 00:55:19,834 got confused with the Marvel character. I was kind of confounded by that the entire season. 607 00:55:20,394 --> 00:55:25,977 I didn't even know Immortus was a character in Marvel Comics. Yeah. What a bunch of fucking 608 00:55:25,997 --> 00:55:32,541 copiers. Dude, obviously this show ripped off that version of Immortus for this season. Like, 609 00:55:32,581 --> 00:55:37,354 what are they trying to do? They probably didn't even know Immortus was a Marvel character like 610 00:55:37,414 --> 00:55:42,376 me. Obviously, they're a bunch of Marvel fans that wrote for the show. You don't know. You 611 00:55:42,396 --> 00:55:48,898 don't know things. Moving on to episode 6 titled Hope Patrol. After the de-aging spellers reversed, 612 00:55:48,998 --> 00:55:55,439 Cliff advises Jane to make the most of her remaining life instead of pursuing Immortus. She visits 613 00:55:55,539 --> 00:56:02,081 a member of the Sisterhood of Dada named Fogg, aka Shealy, and attempts to confess her feelings. 614 00:56:02,401 --> 00:56:08,004 But is conflicted. between her desire to live for herself and her self-imposed duty to protect 615 00:56:08,084 --> 00:56:14,727 K. Larry is taken to the pocket dimension Orquith by the Scissorman, mindless drones with scissors 616 00:56:14,747 --> 00:56:21,470 for hands. Rama saves him and takes him back to the manor via a portal before Keeg intervenes 617 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:27,233 and takes both of them back. Rita and Laura infiltrate the ant farm to learn more about 618 00:56:27,273 --> 00:56:33,335 the Immortus Project. but find its records missing, having been borrowed by an inmate named Wally 619 00:56:33,395 --> 00:56:39,897 Sage, a metahuman who was labeled a weapon by Laura in the past and also Malcolm's killer. 620 00:56:40,337 --> 00:56:46,759 They visit Wally's cell, but upon seeing Wally, Rita panics and transforms into a blob, seemingly 621 00:56:46,859 --> 00:56:52,961 killing Wally. Vic and Derek return to the manor and pursue Larry through the portal, while 622 00:56:53,001 --> 00:56:58,402 Cliff convinces Jane to continue their fight against Immortus. An injured Kipling arrives 623 00:56:58,442 --> 00:57:04,566 informing the two of them that Bunbury was killed by Amortis' agents who took Jane's longevity, 624 00:57:04,946 --> 00:57:10,129 but they ignore his warning. Keeg reveals to Larry his vision of the future where he was 625 00:57:10,189 --> 00:57:15,872 forced to kill the latter to protect the universe. Believing that Amortis can allow the two of 626 00:57:15,892 --> 00:57:22,896 them to stay together, Larry allows his longevity to be extracted. Meanwhile, Vic, Derek, Cliff, 627 00:57:22,936 --> 00:57:28,899 and Jane are captured by the Scissorman, while they are greeted by Wally and two other Immortus 628 00:57:28,999 --> 00:57:34,783 agents. Cliff realizes that he didn't close the freezer all the way, causing the werebots 629 00:57:34,823 --> 00:57:40,626 to thaw and get loose. Now there's quite a few questions that this particular episode brings 630 00:57:40,746 --> 00:57:47,069 up, like the fog, aka Sheely. I don't understand how she made that connection with Jane. Like 631 00:57:47,089 --> 00:57:51,972 all of a sudden a door in Jane's room leads to the fog. Yeah, and how did she end up in 632 00:57:52,012 --> 00:57:57,163 Jane's puzzle? Yeah, in that earlier episode. And why did she do that to Jane? That was weird. 633 00:57:57,744 --> 00:58:03,068 And who did Elastigwomen crush in that cell if it wasn't Wally? Oh, that turned out just 634 00:58:03,088 --> 00:58:08,753 to be a creation of Wally. A false construct of him. Okay, that wasn't clear to me. Yeah, 635 00:58:08,853 --> 00:58:15,758 I mean, we didn't learn that until later episodes. But also, we never learned how Cliff and Jane 636 00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:20,402 get into Orquith. Yeah, you have to kind of just assume that maybe Flit took him there 637 00:58:20,482 --> 00:58:25,390 or something? No idea. And they even mention it in a later episode. how like they don't 638 00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:30,434 know how they got there. It's just like a throwaway line. But the fact that they called it out, 639 00:58:30,694 --> 00:58:34,678 they should have realized that they probably should have explained how that happened. Yeah, 640 00:58:34,718 --> 00:58:39,722 Laura and Rita had to build their own portal generator using the notes that they got from 641 00:58:40,002 --> 00:58:44,646 Wally's cell in order to even get to Orquith, which seemed pretty complicated, you know? 642 00:58:45,086 --> 00:58:49,630 Exactly. Should not have been easy, right? I did like the fact that they introduced the 643 00:58:49,690 --> 00:58:54,333 Scissorman in this episode, even though I think it's a terrible adaptation of the Scissorman. 644 00:58:54,678 --> 00:59:00,079 Like in the Doom Patrol comics, the Scissorman are very, very dangerous characters. They could 645 00:59:00,139 --> 00:59:05,281 literally like cut you out of the comic page and then you just cease to exist. They're very 646 00:59:05,341 --> 00:59:11,422 different in the show. I did like how Vic's friend was able to conjure up weapons just 647 00:59:11,442 --> 00:59:15,043 by drawing them and stuff like that. Yeah, that was cool. Again, it would have been cooler 648 00:59:15,284 --> 00:59:21,305 if it was William Magnus. So that last episode was where things ended with the mid-season 649 00:59:21,345 --> 00:59:26,990 hiatus that- It turned out to be almost a whole freaking year. So episode seven entitled Orquith 650 00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:32,494 Patrol was where people started to get to watch the show again. Rita and Laura escape the ant 651 00:59:32,514 --> 00:59:37,859 farm with Wally's drawings, though the former becomes depressed, believing that she had committed 652 00:59:37,979 --> 00:59:43,683 murder. Laura later convinces her to help her build a gateway to Orquith to help the others. 653 00:59:44,264 --> 00:59:50,349 In Orquith, the group manages to escape captivity. Vic and Derek split from the group to find 654 00:59:50,389 --> 00:59:56,452 Larry, while Jane and Cliff go to find Wally. They encounter Wally, who shows Cliff a vision 655 00:59:56,492 --> 01:00:02,314 of a potential future where he can be happy with Clara and Rory, prompting Cliff to cave 656 01:00:02,654 --> 01:00:08,977 and willfully surrender his longevity. As Sage, Torminox, and Dr. Yannis finish their ritual, 657 01:00:09,437 --> 01:00:15,319 Rita and Laura reunite with the group and they are also joined by Dorothy and Casey. As the 658 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,442 ritual finishes, Rita is shocked to find that they have summoned Isabelle Feathers. her theater 659 01:00:21,522 --> 01:00:26,663 rival who is pushed into a time hole by Laura when she initially arrived in the present day. 660 01:00:27,083 --> 01:00:33,145 With the wardens possessing her, Isabel kills Sage, Torminox, and Dr. Yanis, and unleashes 661 01:00:33,185 --> 01:00:39,527 a scream that destroys the Orquith dimension. I was so pissed off at Robotman when he caved 662 01:00:39,807 --> 01:00:45,709 and let them take his longevity. Yeah, rightfully so. Like, he knew he was being manipulated 663 01:00:45,849 --> 01:00:52,117 and he still went with it. I don't know if it's a result of his brain deteriorating, but I 664 01:00:52,257 --> 01:00:57,561 just hated it. The next episode was titled Fame Patrol. The gang wakes up and finds themselves 665 01:00:57,621 --> 01:01:04,286 in the real world and follows a confused Isabelle, who is discovered by a local driving by. Isabelle 666 01:01:04,346 --> 01:01:09,150 later gets on TV and talks about her return to the audiences of Cloverton. Believing at 667 01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:14,398 Mortis to have been a lie, the group returns to dealing with their personal problems. while 668 01:01:14,478 --> 01:01:20,901 also accepting their mortality. Larry is contacted by a disembodied Rama and helps him reassemble 669 01:01:20,921 --> 01:01:26,603 himself with Keeg's power. Cliff panics as he attempts to find the zombie butt he didn't 670 01:01:26,643 --> 01:01:31,785 kill, while also struggling with his Parkinson's condition as Dorothy attempts to help him. 671 01:01:32,166 --> 01:01:37,888 Casey tries to be a friend to Jane, who is lost in her own mind and unable to reach the underground 672 01:01:38,228 --> 01:01:43,835 and offer counsel only to be rejected. The group later decides to attend a parade celebrating 673 01:01:43,955 --> 01:01:50,119 Isabelle's return. Upon arrival, the townsfolk hails them as heroes, much to Isabelle's chagrin. 674 01:01:50,539 --> 01:01:55,942 Meanwhile, Laura notices that Isabelle has been rewinding time to manipulate reality in her 675 01:01:55,982 --> 01:02:02,325 favor, and only she is able to notice. When Isabelle finds out from Mayor Claire Delaire 676 01:02:02,586 --> 01:02:07,769 that the parade is intended to celebrate the Doom Patrol finding Isabelle, she snaps and 677 01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:15,204 unleashes another scream. It's never explained why Madame Rouge is the only one able to see 678 01:02:15,344 --> 01:02:20,526 how Immortus is manipulating time. I don't know why. Well yeah, and same goes for the next 679 01:02:20,566 --> 01:02:24,628 episode. How she was able to snap out of the false reality too. There was something going 680 01:02:24,688 --> 01:02:29,470 on there, I guess, where maybe because she didn't have her longevity taken or something like 681 01:02:29,490 --> 01:02:32,772 that, I have no idea how to rationalize it. But again, it was like one of those things 682 01:02:32,812 --> 01:02:37,654 that made Laura almost feel like she was the main character of the show. Yeah. I actually 683 01:02:37,694 --> 01:02:42,056 thought the scene where Isabelle rewinds time for that first time was pretty frightening. 684 01:02:42,216 --> 01:02:48,380 Like that was scary. Yeah. Straight from a horror film. The next episode was titled, Immortimous 685 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:55,183 Patrol. Isabelle puts the Doom Patrol, Dorothy, Casey, and Rama in an illusion of a perfect 686 01:02:55,223 --> 01:03:01,247 world where they live out a holiday in honor of her, named Immortimous Day, and constantly 687 01:03:01,287 --> 01:03:07,322 break into musical numbers with help from corporeal versions of the sex ghosts. During a number, 688 01:03:07,702 --> 01:03:13,027 Laura's old memory is triggered, breaking her out of Isabelle's spell. She helps the others 689 01:03:13,067 --> 01:03:18,271 regain their memories, though some of them remain uncertain whether they wish to remain in Isabelle's 690 01:03:18,331 --> 01:03:25,637 perfect world. Later, Isabelle visits Doom Manor and attends the Doom Patrol's dinner, but the 691 01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:31,482 group renounces her illusion, leaving her distraught. Isabelle returns the group to their normal 692 01:03:31,542 --> 01:03:37,894 state while taunting that they are doomed. Again, also terrifying. Not much happens in this episode 693 01:03:37,914 --> 01:03:42,296 because you know they're all stuck in an alternate reality, but I did enjoy the heck out of this 694 01:03:42,336 --> 01:03:46,278 episode. Yeah, I didn't know there was gonna be a musical episode this season. It's funny 695 01:03:46,358 --> 01:03:51,300 watching these actors like sing and dance because I feel like it gives somewhat of an insight 696 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,882 into the theater kids that a lot of them probably were during their school days. Right. Yeah, 697 01:03:57,082 --> 01:04:02,465 Joyvon, definitely a theater kid. Yeah, Diane Guerrero. Yeah, Abigail Shapiro, the actress 698 01:04:02,485 --> 01:04:08,755 who plays Dorothy as well. Brendan Fraser. Definitely not a theater kid. Yeah. And same, I would 699 01:04:08,795 --> 01:04:13,276 say, with Michelle Gomez. Michelle Gomez can't really sing. That was a little bit painful, 700 01:04:13,556 --> 01:04:17,737 but I think it's supposed to be funny. Yeah. Out of all of them, I would definitely say 701 01:04:17,797 --> 01:04:22,418 that Vic killed it. My favorite scene, though, was like as Vic was like doing his song, a 702 01:04:22,438 --> 01:04:28,160 dance number all of a sudden, like peace started lighting next to him and getting interupted 703 01:04:28,300 --> 01:04:31,561 as Cliff was just like, oh, I'm just trying to fill my dick in the window. I still can. 704 01:04:33,534 --> 01:04:37,200 And then Madame Rouge opens up the door. She's like, what are you doing? He's like, singing. 705 01:04:38,302 --> 01:04:42,649 And then that final shot with negative man coming into frame down below. He's like, you okay 706 01:04:42,689 --> 01:04:42,969 up there? 707 01:04:46,378 --> 01:04:51,039 I also really liked the confrontation at the dinner table between all of them. That was 708 01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:56,941 a really interesting scene I felt. The following episode was titled, Tomb Patrol. After seemingly 709 01:04:57,001 --> 01:05:02,282 killing the last were-butt, the butt hunter encounters a were-butt named Teddy, who tasks 710 01:05:02,302 --> 01:05:08,184 him with a mission. Vic meets with Silas at Star Labs and asks to be upgraded into Cyborg 711 01:05:08,264 --> 01:05:13,754 again. Isabelle invites the Doom Patrol to her one-person play in Cloverton. While Laura learns 712 01:05:13,794 --> 01:05:18,859 that Isabelle's source of power, the group's longevity, resides in a skin tag behind her 713 01:05:18,979 --> 01:05:24,944 neck. She proposes to the others that they should attend Isabelle's play in an attempt to recover 714 01:05:25,165 --> 01:05:30,470 their longevity, but they refuse out of fear and wish to spend their remaining lifespan 715 01:05:30,550 --> 01:05:36,855 in peace. Meanwhile, Dr. Yu returns home and informs the where-butt Nicholas of Teddy's 716 01:05:36,895 --> 01:05:43,179 plan to start a war with humankind. while also revealing that she had been turned into a were-butt. 717 01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:48,960 Laura attends Isabelle's play alone, where the latter is ridiculed by the audience, causing 718 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:55,122 her to snap and make them disappear. Laura talks to Isabelle and convinces her that not everyone 719 01:05:55,142 --> 01:06:00,183 will love her the way she wants. Isabelle, however, believes that she should pursue the path of 720 01:06:00,243 --> 01:06:07,325 villainy and gain love through fear. While reminiscing their past adventures, Rita realizes that Laura 721 01:06:07,365 --> 01:06:13,005 has gone off on her own and tells the team to help her. She then collapses and falls unconscious, 722 01:06:13,325 --> 01:06:19,089 leaving Larry, Jane, and Cliff to go to town and help Laura. As they arrive at the theater, 723 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:24,853 they are surrounded by Teddy and the Wherebutt horde, but an upgraded Vic returns to assist 724 01:06:24,913 --> 01:06:30,257 them. The team runs inside the theater, where Isabelle sends them and Laura through a time 725 01:06:30,297 --> 01:06:35,436 portal. These last three episodes were fantastic. I really felt like they were paced well and 726 01:06:35,496 --> 01:06:40,659 the story really dove into high gear, leading up to its conclusion. I did think it was pretty 727 01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:49,784 gross that Niles's necklace that he wore was a petrified skin tag that was on the back of 728 01:06:49,884 --> 01:06:54,967 Isabelle's neck. Like, I'm trying to think of how that happened. Like, she was falling through 729 01:06:54,987 --> 01:07:01,279 the time stream and the skin tag must have fallen off. in time, I guess, and Niles, you know, 730 01:07:01,380 --> 01:07:06,464 managed to get his hands on it. It's just like this weird paradox, I guess, of how Niles got 731 01:07:06,604 --> 01:07:13,450 his longevity from Immortus. And yet Immortus needed that piece of himself from the Doom 732 01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:19,195 Patrol members to return to time, essentially. Yeah, it's kind of like a chicken egg situation. 733 01:07:19,635 --> 01:07:25,780 Right. Exactly. Episode 11 was titled Portal Patrol. In the time stream, Keek manages to 734 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:31,939 detect three time portals. leading to different longevity skin tags. The team splits up and 735 01:07:32,019 --> 01:07:37,582 enters each portal while Vic stays behind to resummon them when needed. Laura enters the 736 01:07:37,662 --> 01:07:42,984 ant farm in 1949, where she attempts to steal Calder's necklace, but encounters her younger 737 01:07:43,064 --> 01:07:48,806 self. After getting caught, Laura attempts to convince 1949 Laura to give up her work at 738 01:07:48,846 --> 01:07:55,349 the bureau, but fails. Laura beats up her younger self relentlessly until Vic recalls her. Jane 739 01:07:55,369 --> 01:08:01,391 and Larry enter Doom Manor in 1996, where the former encounters Calder and receives counsel 740 01:08:01,411 --> 01:08:07,072 from him. After revealing that the other personas are gone, Jane is convinced by Calder to admit 741 01:08:07,112 --> 01:08:12,694 the truth, that she and the other personas were born after Kay was raped by her father. Upon 742 01:08:12,774 --> 01:08:17,775 acknowledging her trauma, Jane is reunited with the other personas as they all ride Driver 743 01:08:17,835 --> 01:08:22,737 8's train out of the underground and to the location that Kay was building as they see 744 01:08:22,817 --> 01:08:28,442 kaleidoscope images outside the window of Driver 8's train. Larry encounters the negative spirit 745 01:08:28,762 --> 01:08:35,244 who controls 1996 Larry's body to talk to him and Kieg. The spirit assures Larry that he 746 01:08:35,264 --> 01:08:40,946 and Kieg would be fine in the future before he is recalled. Cliff visits Paraguay in 1948 747 01:08:41,966 --> 01:08:47,348 and finds Calder and Kipling in a bar. They briefly fight Nazi soldiers sent to kill Calder, 748 01:08:47,648 --> 01:08:52,889 but Cliff accidentally breaks Calder's spine on the counter, causing his legs to be paralyzed. 749 01:08:53,354 --> 01:08:57,835 Redden with guilt as well as Kipling stating that Calder will die if the necklace is taken, 750 01:08:58,296 --> 01:09:04,438 Cliff decides not to take the necklace. In the time stream, Vic sends a distress signal which 751 01:09:04,478 --> 01:09:09,780 reaches Derek in the future who helps him locate a time portal to return to the present day 752 01:09:10,180 --> 01:09:16,123 with help from his students and a future Vic. After the group reunites, Jane and a combined 753 01:09:16,163 --> 01:09:21,865 persona called Kaleidoscope does a pep talk as they collectively agree to return to fight 754 01:09:21,945 --> 01:09:27,792 Isabelle. and the were-butt horde. What was the more shocking paralysis scene? Niles Calder 755 01:09:27,852 --> 01:09:32,615 in this episode getting slammed against the bar or Professor Xavier in X-Men First Class. 756 01:09:33,236 --> 01:09:40,140 Oh geez. I actually think the Robot Man one was better because I kind of felt like the 757 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:45,463 first class one felt just so random, you know, just like a stray bullet for Magneto tagged 758 01:09:45,543 --> 01:09:50,754 Professor X and it's like, oh, now he's paralyzed. But with this one, I think it was. a little 759 01:09:50,774 --> 01:09:56,679 bit more not only humorous in a way, but Robo-Man was definitely more guilt stricken than Magneto 760 01:09:56,699 --> 01:10:02,203 was. That doesn't mean it was more shocking. The correct answer was Professor X in X-Men 761 01:10:02,223 --> 01:10:07,688 First Class. Clearly a better scene. Anything between Doom Patrol and X-Men, Doom Patrol 762 01:10:07,728 --> 01:10:13,692 wins. Sorry. Okay, okay. The final episode was titled Dunpatrol. The Doom Patrol prepares 763 01:10:13,732 --> 01:10:18,917 for their last stand against Isabelle and the Werebutt horde, but Dr. U and Nicholas arrive 764 01:10:18,997 --> 01:10:25,226 and start to sing. prompting the Werebuts to sing along. Annoyed by the butts, Isabel starts 765 01:10:25,266 --> 01:10:31,311 singing, causing the time portal to become unstable and engulf the entire theater. The Doom Patrol 766 01:10:31,371 --> 01:10:36,996 returns to their home to celebrate, but Isabel returns an hour later, having spent a thousand 767 01:10:37,036 --> 01:10:42,581 years in the time stream where the Werebuts were helpful in her tour throughout time. She 768 01:10:42,681 --> 01:10:49,278 offers the team toenails, which grant them longevity. Rita, however, passes away from old age and 769 01:10:49,318 --> 01:10:56,082 her ghost requests the team to disband and cremate her body. Afterward, each member goes their 770 01:10:56,102 --> 01:11:02,526 separate ways. Cliff returns to Florida to reunite with Clara and Rory. Larry and Keeg find Rama 771 01:11:02,666 --> 01:11:07,188 and take him to space where they spend their last moments together before Rama's energy 772 01:11:07,248 --> 01:11:13,352 explodes. Jane goes to space with Casey and affirms her feelings. And Loro returns to the 773 01:11:13,452 --> 01:11:19,996 ant farm and murders every employee with a flamethrower. In the afterlife, Rita reunites with Malcolm. 774 01:11:20,416 --> 01:11:26,441 At Clara's home, while helping Clara with the car, Cliff's arm freezes up and he sees a vision 775 01:11:26,481 --> 01:11:31,564 of Rory's future in the gift Immortus gave him where he goes through similar experiences as 776 01:11:31,624 --> 01:11:38,209 he did. Feeling satisfied, Cliff's body finally shuts down. A great final episode. For my money. 777 01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:43,213 It's actually better than the final episode of Loki season 2, which I thought was fantastic. 778 01:11:43,373 --> 01:11:49,278 If every episode of this season was as good as episode 12 of Doom Patrol, it would be a 779 01:11:49,338 --> 01:11:55,303 perfect five-star show because it was so satisfying, so well done, so well written, so well acted. 780 01:11:55,683 --> 01:12:00,387 It was perfection. I don't know if this last episode was perfect. You know, again, at the 781 01:12:00,427 --> 01:12:07,173 beginning, the final battle was kind of Deus ex Machina in a way, but I would say, yeah, 782 01:12:07,273 --> 01:12:12,798 definitely the conclusion to all of the characters arcs was above and beyond what I would have 783 01:12:12,838 --> 01:12:17,081 imagined for the characters and immensely satisfying. At first my impression was that there were 784 01:12:17,222 --> 01:12:21,365 too many endings. It was starting to feel kind of like Return of the King, you know? Just 785 01:12:21,485 --> 01:12:25,169 ending after ending after ending. Like when I thought the show was over, I realized I was 786 01:12:25,209 --> 01:12:28,812 only halfway through the episode. So I was like, what the hell do they have left to do? I'm 787 01:12:29,032 --> 01:12:34,970 so glad they took the time to really go through each character's resolution though. Yeah. They 788 01:12:35,010 --> 01:12:39,333 didn't just cop out by having the show end when Larry turned off Rita's movie or something 789 01:12:39,353 --> 01:12:45,258 like that. They really explored many different epilogues of the Doom Patrol. And my initial 790 01:12:45,318 --> 01:12:50,303 impatience grew into gratitude at getting to see where they went. Oh, yeah, absolutely. 791 01:12:50,523 --> 01:12:56,068 It made the entire season. And honestly, it kind of made the entire series because the 792 01:12:56,088 --> 01:13:00,191 fact that we got to be with these characters over the course of four seasons, through their 793 01:13:00,231 --> 01:13:04,610 different arcs, through their different trials and tribulations. and just be with them as 794 01:13:04,650 --> 01:13:09,554 they finally attain peace was one of the most magical and beautiful things I've ever seen 795 01:13:09,614 --> 01:13:15,799 on television. It was incredibly cathartic. It made all four seasons absolutely worth it. 796 01:13:15,879 --> 01:13:21,423 I mean, they were already great, but it just brought it up an entire notch in my book. That 797 01:13:21,443 --> 01:13:27,647 all said, I don't think this season was as strong as maybe like the first two seasons. I think 798 01:13:27,667 --> 01:13:34,050 there was a slight dip after COVID. So It was great, not perfect, and ultimately, you know, 799 01:13:34,150 --> 01:13:40,352 the show's existential, mortality-focused final season culminated in a satisfying conclusion 800 01:13:40,512 --> 01:13:47,174 to this absurdist, humorous, and often emotionally profound series. I'm giving it 4 out of 5 stars, 801 01:13:47,714 --> 01:13:54,336 a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, I would also give this season 4 stars out of 5. It 802 01:13:54,356 --> 01:13:58,917 just lagged a little bit in the middle episodes, and I was almost about ready to give this season 803 01:13:58,937 --> 01:14:05,181 like 3 or 3 and a half stars. But those final three, four episodes were just so incredible, 804 01:14:05,221 --> 01:14:09,945 so amazing that it rose up the quality of this entire season. I'd like to give it a higher 805 01:14:10,045 --> 01:14:14,850 rating, honestly, because by the time the show ended and even now, I still look back on it 806 01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:19,974 with fond feelings. But, you know, just as I was writing the review, I realized all the 807 01:14:19,994 --> 01:14:26,200 different balls that they had dropped, small balls, which sounds weird to say. But things, 808 01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:32,412 you know, like Dorothy's conclusion. Just some plot holes that popped up in different episodes 809 01:14:32,592 --> 01:14:37,554 and some unnecessary subplots Just prevent it from being as good as it could have been but 810 01:14:37,694 --> 01:14:42,737 still really damn good I think if this season was six episodes like Loki season 2 was like 811 01:14:42,777 --> 01:14:47,260 the Disney plus television shows typically are it would have been A near perfect season. I 812 01:14:47,300 --> 01:14:52,723 don't know. It's a lot to fit in six episodes. Maybe nine episodes. I could see that Yeah, 813 01:14:53,083 --> 01:14:56,785 I could see that too, but that does it for this review guys Let us know what you thought about 814 01:14:56,885 --> 01:15:04,184 Doom Patrol season 4 by writing to us at dynamicduelpodcast.gmail.com or by visiting us on Instagram or X. I wanna 815 01:15:04,204 --> 01:15:08,686 know if there's anybody out there that saw the last episode of season four and didn't cry. 816 01:15:09,046 --> 01:15:13,608 Because it would just be mind blowing to me. Yeah, that would be a tremendous act of will. 817 01:15:14,048 --> 01:15:17,950 Yeah. You gotta be like pinching yourself and be like, don't you cry, don't you cry, just 818 01:15:17,970 --> 01:15:21,291 to make it through it. You can find links to all of our accounts by checking out our show 819 01:15:21,311 --> 01:15:25,753 notes or visiting our website at dynamicduel.com. 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In our next episode we will be reviewing the Amazon Prime Holiday 828 01:16:09,420 --> 01:16:14,202 Film, Merry Little Batman. I actually had a chance to see an early screening of this with 829 01:16:14,242 --> 01:16:21,125 my family in the movie theater and it was good times. It was really fun, really cute. Definitely 830 01:16:21,165 --> 01:16:25,822 check it out if you have Amazon Prime. and listen to our review. Yeah, I can't wait to watch 831 01:16:25,842 --> 01:16:29,244 it when it comes out December 8th. But that does it for this episode, guys. We want to 832 01:16:29,264 --> 01:16:33,425 give a big thanks to our executive producers, Ken Johnson, John Storowski, Zachary Hepburn, 833 01:16:33,545 --> 01:16:38,647 Dustin Balcom, Miggie Bantanghian, Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yatin, Nick Obanto, 834 01:16:38,847 --> 01:16:44,529 Austin Wazilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Adam Spies, and Andrew Schonk for helping make 835 01:16:44,549 --> 01:16:49,571 this podcast possible. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. 836 01:16:50,191 --> 01:16:50,891 What the fuck?