Felix Faust vs Baron Mordo

This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi, welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny DC and I'm his twin brother Marvelous Joe. 

And in this episode we are doing another spooktober duel, this time pitting the dark sorcerers of Felix Faust and Baron Mordo against each other. Yeah, basically my wife told me that if Marvel doesn't fucking win one, then she's gonna divorce me. So there's a lot writing on this one. Literally she said like in the last episode she was like, I'm sick of this shit. 

So we're really writing on this one guys. Baron Mordo, I think has a good chance of winning this. I don't think that's right. I think DC is gonna get another win. I think you're fucked. I think you're a fuck. 

I think that's a compliment. I'm not 100% though. But we're gonna run the stats and figure out who's gonna win between those two characters later on in the episode. Before that we're gonna break down the comic book movie news of which there was quite a bit because we had New York Comic Con this past week. So we got a Wonder Man official trailer, a Bat Fam official trailer. We learned that Marvin Crandon Jones III is going to play Tombstone in Spider-Man Brand New Day. And we learned that Batman Nightfall animated films are in the works. 

As always we list our segment times in our episode description so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Our artificially intelligent dual simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners so listen up. Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast. Be sure to tune into the other shows on the Dynamics Podcast Network this week including the console combat podcast where hosts John and Dean simulate battles between popular video game characters. And yesterday's episode they celebrated their 100th episode with a special Colin show. I personally was not able to call in at the time they were live streaming but I did send a voice note in. Super proud of those guys for making 100 episodes. It's not easy to do for a podcast. So be sure to tune into that. 

It's a huge deal. Over on the Max Destruction Podcast hosts Scotty and Gilly pay your favor action heroes from film and television against each other. On Wednesday they're going to find out who would win between Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers. That'll be a fun one. On the Central World Podcast hosts Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. In his next episode Zach is revealing who would win between Whitebeard and Kanpachi both from One Piece. 

Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the Dynamics Podcast Network. But with that out of the way quick to the no prize. The no prize is an award that Marvel used to give out to fans. 

Our version the Dynamic Dual No Prize is a digital award we post on Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked you guys what do you think has been the scariest moment in a Marvel or DC film or TV series and we asked this because it's Halloween season. Got a lot of great answers let's run down our honorable mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Travis Herndon who said what's up dynamic dudes Travis here shout out to Mabel Twin so my scariest moment would have to be watching the Flash movie no it's like not but my answer would have to be Guardians of the Galaxy volume 3's Rockets backstory just while it's not like a spooky scary thing just seeing like what rocket and the rest of the animals there had to go through with the experimentation and the body modifications that is kind of scary to watch especially if you're an animal lover so that's my pick Rockets backstory. 

Yeah that was really creepy in like a body horror sense the experiments that the animals went through under the high evolutionary was not just like creepy to look at but it was also really uncomfortable to think about in terms of like animal torture you had Lila the otter who's like arms were missing and then Tiefs who if I remember correctly had wheels and then there was Floor the rabbit who they gave like spider legs and like removed its entire jaw it was truly horrifying yeah great answer Travis our next honorable mention goes to Mason Thompson who said what's up y'all um I kind of had to think about this but once I thought about it immediately the trench attack from Aquaman oh my gosh seeing that it just gives like jaw vibes or like 30 meters down like just all of them surrounding them terrifying dude had me butt clenched all right thanks peace I too was butt clenched during that scene it was really well done by horror master James Wan who directed Aquaman I've been feeling the trench were put into that movie specifically for that scene so that he could exercise his horror talent in the movie I haven't seen the movie too many times but yeah that scene does stick out to me I remember just seeing like the entire swarm of trench like there were so many more than you could possibly fathom down in those depths and I was really like nervous for how Aquaman was going to get out of that well even before that when they're still on the boat and they're climbing on board and like breaking windows and stuff like that that was why great answer our next honorable mention goes to Alex Albro and by Dear Bangora who gave the same answer and that is hey guys I know it's iconic but the scariest moment in a Marvel movie for me honestly is the blood rave and the first blade movie it's just freaky to look at man especially for the time you know it's just scary image odd way to start a movie I'm not sure I was there for it kind of made me freak out a little bit going into the first blade movie you know I'm just out here trying to ice skate uphill not take a literal blood bath thanks guys bye dynamic doll I think the scariest moment has to be the blood rave during blade I think that was terrifying just to be put in that position and be surrounded by vampires and when blood pouring must be extremely devastating this is Badiere thank you yeah I feel like the blood rave scene is kind of like a pop culture touchstone like a lot of people know about the blood rave scene probably even if you haven't seen the blade movie I think but I remember like seeing the movie in theaters when I came out in 1998 and Jesus I was only like 12 years old but I remember the guy at the club and like all of a sudden stuff started dripping on him and he was as confused as the audience was and then we realized that it was blood and I just remember being like holy shit like oh oh no no because it all started and then it turns out literally every single other person at that rave was a vampire like he was the only human that was nuts I was like this is so nightmarish like what a crazy concept for it to be just raining blood on you and just you're totally fucked like there's no way you're getting out of it and then of course blade shows up and saves the day but uh yeah it was it was pretty freaky on that first watch and then on subsequent watches it kind of became cool because you knew that blade was coming and that you were about to get a great action scene but yeah that first time was really unsettling it's still my favorite scene from a blade movie and it was like the first blade movie scene yeah they just nailed it right out the gate for sure great answer alex and by dear but the winner of this week's no prize is Lorenzo Valdes who said I would say that the scariest moment in a marvel or dc movie is in the dark night when they're in mayor Garcia's office and the imposter batman slams against the window and I picked this moment because that's a movie I've seen so many times and yet over and over and over again the moment works as a jump scare for me clon of forever and always bye bye I still remember physically jolting out of my seat when the imposter batman slammed against mayor Garcia's window I was not expecting that it kind of came out of nowhere it's like the ultimate jump scare within a superhero film for sure I could even concede that this is definitely the scariest moment out of all the marvel and dc films I remember jumping in my seat too and you know it's like unfair because you're not expecting it because the dark night is not a horror film I remember like not appreciating it in the theaters when it happened I was like I didn't sign up for this shit like what's going on here is this a scary movie now am I gonna have to expect this later on but no I thought I thought it was a really effective moment in selling the shock of the jokers actions and how he is just chaos incarnate yeah you never quite knew what he was gonna do and when he was gonna do it and the video that was attached to the imposter batman of the joker torturing him that was also pretty terrifying yeah there are a lot of terrifying joker moments in that film but that is the standout one so great answer Lorenzo Valdes you win this week's no prize if you're the listener want to shot at winning your own no prize stay tuned to later on in this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week and now that that's done off to the news all right this past week was new york city comic con where we got a lot of marvel television news they had an entire panel alongside the marvel animation division we got some looks at daredevil born again season two where we got to see a trailer that also featured jessica jones although that trailer wasn't featured publicly it was leaked but we'll wait for that to be officially released so that people could see it there was also news about vision quest and x-men 97 and your friendly neighborhood spider-man season two but the main news that we got that was officially released was a trailer for wonder man which is a television series that's going to be debuting in january of 2026 its release date got pushed back a little bit from its original december date and i gotta say i knew that they were going to focus on simon williams as an actor within this wonder man series and that wonder man was basically a role that he was going to play that's all fine you know simon williams is one of the only superhero actors in marvel comics and it is definitely a unique approach and angle that we haven't really seen before within these marvel shows and films that being said my biggest takeaway from the wonder man trailer was that this does not feel at all like a superhero show and it seems intentionally to be that way like they were trying to do something completely different within the genre i don't quite know if i like the idea or not just based on this trailer i mean i'll say that the show looks good for what it is i kind of like how meta it is how this auteur film director is recreating the wonder man popular television series from either like the 70s or 80s i don't know it looks like flash gordon to me which is pretty interesting but you know the origin of wonder man from the comic books is that he was kind of like a tony stark rival whose business was driven into the ground he went to prison for shady business dealings and then baron zemo offered him a chance to get back at tony stark by undergoing an experiment that turned his body into ionic energy i mean we go into his backstory in our captain adam versus wonder man dual episode this looks completely removed from that now maybe that whole backstory will kind of be loosely adapted into the fictional backstory of the wonder man character within the series that they're adapting in this show and that would be great but that's definitely not going to be the origin story for yaya abdul matine the second's character yeah it makes me wonder if we're actually going to see yaya abdul matine as wonder man and is he going to throw hands i'm not convinced by this trailer i don't know if we'll see yaya in his ionic form i'm sure we'll definitely see him in the wonder man suit i'm assuming that at some point his character will get superpowers that are similar to wonder man's power set from the comic books and then he'll be an actor who played the role of wonder man who became a superhero during the filming process and then goes on to fight evil after making this movie i feel like it's not going to be that way just because they anticipate the audience expecting something like that and i think they want to do something completely different with this yeah they might pull like a she-hulk or something where there is no big fight between good versus evil in the show's climax and maybe subvert it in some way but that wouldn't be satisfying just like how the end to she-hulk wasn't satisfying i hope they don't do that i hope this character becomes an actual superhero and doesn't just play one i love that ben kingsley is returning as trevor slattery like that was one of my favorite parts of this trailer just seeing him as that character again his trevor slattery is great for sure i'm wondering if simon williams gets the role of wonder man in this movie then who is trevor gonna play considering that he also auditions for the same part i guess we'll find out when the show comes out on january 27th in dc news we got the official trailer for prime videos bat fam animated series this is a spinoff of the holiday film they put out a few years ago mary little batman which we reviewed which i thought was great for the family after watching this trailer i'm less enthused by the whole approach they decided to take with this show when i hear bat fam i think nightwing red hood robin bat girl that whole cast of characters but based on this trailer we're getting a pyrachonetic named claire alfred's niece alicia a ghost of rossel ghoul a geriatric man bat it's just fucking weird the bat fam nobody asked for exactly exactly and again i love the charming animation style the character designs are actually pretty great especially when it comes to like killer croc and clay face and stuff like that but it's just so different from what i was hoping they would do that it's really hard to get excited about this show well i mean one of the appeals of mary little batman was seeing how that particular art style depicted characters that you know and love like batman like the joker it was all just part of the magic right and yeah you're right seeing characters like clay face and killer croc adapted in this style looks like a whole lot of fun i also was really hoping to see how they were going to take the characters that were used to seeing the bat family and depicting them in that art style too like i imagine that nightwing would be like really buff and then like they really focus on his glutes right and red hood would be real like emo you know always having his head down and stuff like that it would have been cool to see in the style of animation absolutely and so we have these characters in the trailer and i'm just left wondering why like why would you take a stable of characters that are beloved amongst comic fans and just completely disregard it i'll probably still end up watching this show because i have prime and why not and i may actually find the humor and storytelling charming but i can't stress enough how much they dropped the ball and how disappointed i am that this should have been something very different yeah i mean you may end up liking it but even if you do you're still gonna wonder what could have been if they gave you more of what you wanted all in all there's a lot of questionable decisions for this show and with wonder man so that brings us to our question of the week regarding the wonder man and batfam series trailers what the fuck did i just watch wrong answers only i guess a good way to approach this question is if you had to retitle these shows to be more in line with your own personal thoughts on the trailers what would they be called record your answer at dynamic duel dot com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right corner of the screen which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail your message could be up to 30 seconds long and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast we'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a dynamic duel no prize that will post to instagram be sure to answer before october 18th in other marvel news we learned this past week according to deadline that marvin jones the third aka crondon is going to play the crime boss tombstone in the upcoming spider-man brand new day film tombstone being a spider-man villain a street level spider-man villain one of the enforcers of the magea crime family the character appeared in the spider-man into the spider-verse film where he was actually voiced by marvin jones the third so it'll be cool to see him now play that role in live action i mean if you could do it any differently from how he played to bias wail in the black lightning tv series i'm skeptical that's right yeah he did already play dc villain who is very similar at least i guess an attitude if not in power set i don't know what to bias wail's powers are actually well he's a albino gangster essentially a crime boss well that's what tombstone is he's exactly you know gangster okay all right well we'll see how this goes i'm sure he'll take a somewhat different approach from his role in black lightning but it's cool that he'll have done both in marvel and dc live action villain role when this film comes out the inclusion of tombstone definitely reinforces the idea that this is going to be a street level film which is very interesting to me yeah it's gonna have tombstone in it it's gonna have the punisher in it it's gonna be a very different type of film than what we've been getting from the spider-man franchise i think it's gonna be more grounded maybe that'll be pretty interesting to see execs have made some comments that there are some like story tie-ins from daredevil born against season two if you want to learn more about tombstone go ahead and check out our dual episode where we pit him against blockbuster and hopefully we'll get to see what the character looks like either in like set videos or an upcoming trailer or something like that again the movie is gonna come out in 2026 on july 31st in dc news my favorite news to come out of new york comic con it was revealed that the batman nightfall storyline is being put into production as a multi-part animated film part one is coming out next year in 2026 and it's going to focus on bane really seeing batman's rogues gallery from arkham asylum and batman's quest to capture all of them nightfall is one of my favorite stories from the comics it spanned multiple batman series written by some of batman's best writers from history including doug moanch chuck dixon ellen granton denny o'neill and peter david of course it includes the famous breaking of batman's back by bane and the rise of asriel as a new armor-wearing tech focused batman i'm sure we'll see asriel's rise in part two but i can't wait to see the whole storyline played out on screen i never thought we would get an animated adaptation of that so it's exciting to see them start to take a look at some of the popular comic book story arcs and adapt those i was actually surprised by this news because i thought that james gunn was only going to start featuring animated projects that tied into his dcu projects like creature commandos that could be the case for this for all we know this could be a prequel of sorts or like a flashback-esque story a prequel to the dcu version of batman possibly interesting it would be a good way to get much needed exposition and backstory out of the way that way people could just jump right in with a live action movie whenever that comes out i mean since we've already seen batman get his back broken on film in christopher nollens the dark knight rises i'm sure there's no real need to retread that same territory in live action so this approach may just get that out of the way i am skeptical that this is actually true it's interesting speculation whether it is or isn't i'm still pumped for it because again that's a fantastic storyline it's the equivalent of the death of superman in my book just a pivotal moment in batman's career yeah where stakes actually meant something exactly just how we didn't know if superman was going to come back we didn't know when bruce wane was going to return to the cowl we weren't told how many parts the story was going to be told in but it's at least two if they do three i'm here for it my body is ready but then does it for all the news for this episode let's go ahead and move on to the main event where we find out who is going to win between the dc and marvel sorcerer characters of phoenix foust and baron mordo okay phoenix foust versus baron mordo as i stated earlier in the episode these are two dark sorcerer villainous characters within dc baron mordo of course was played by chouatelle in the dr strange films we haven't seen phoenix foust in live action that i'm aware of but he has been featured pretty frequently in animated works yeah he had a really cool badass fight scene against zetana in just asly dark i want to say the film was right this is going to be kind of similar to our dr fate versus dr strange dual episode i think but considering that these characters are both villains we're going to dabble more into the dark magic side of things yeah i think it'll be pretty fun to explain the methodology behind our duels let's go to our sentient dual simulator elford jarvis 9000 aj9k tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our dual matchups yes of course sir the way i determine a winner between the contestants is by running 1000 montecarlo simulations using the characters statistics a montecarlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling in this case i randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle the stat parameters are based on the official marvel power grid from which the dc characters statistics are extrapolated additional stat categories are included such as range damage potential versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation the results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character the contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor as they have a higher probability to win any given battle in an equitable pairing neither character should win 100 of the matches the comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for batman to defeat superman so the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material my mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias feats are not the whole consideration nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner thanks aj and iak before we run the simulations though we'd like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat i believe it's my turn to go first with the marvel characters backstory so let me tell you all about baron morto carl amadeus morto was born in the transylvanian village of varfondra to baron nicolai morto and baroness sarah crawler his grandfather viscount hindrack crawler of bavaria sought revenge against the allied powers after world war two and attempted to steal nicolai's emerging magical power through a spell of transference when the spell failed crawler ordered his daughter to marry nicolai so that their child could serve as a conduit for the power he craved sarah complied and nine months later gave birth to carl raised in a cold household carl's father was obsessed with restoring his homeland to feudal glory while his mother regarded her son merely as a pawn in her father's schemes when crawler ordered sarah to kill her husband she obeyed and fled with carl to bavaria where crawler trained his grandson in black magic after learning the truth of his father's death carl swore vengeance on both his mother and grandfather and vowed to rebuild a world ruled by his own power as a young man morto traveled to tebet to find the ancient one a powerful sorcerer said to guard the secrets of true magic in the ancient ones himalayan sanctuary morto's body aged slowly under the effects of the mountain's mystical aura though the ancient ones saw darkness in his new pupil's heart he chose to teach him anyway hoping to guide him toward wisdom while studying ancient scrolls morto learned of the dread dor mamu the ruler of the dark dimension against his master's orders he contacted dor mamu finding himself to the demon's influence morto returned to bavaria sacrificing both his mother and grandfather to dor mamu before continuing his studies under the ancient one plotting to one day sacrifice him as well you can learn more about dor mamu in his duel against the demon trigon when another student steven strange arrived seeking healing for his injured hands morto viewed him as a rival upon discovering morto's plot to kill their teacher strange tried to warn the ancient one but morto silenced him with a binding spell the ancient one was aware of morto's treachery all along and freed strange who accepted apprenticeship to stop morto's schemes you can find out more about morto's attempts to defeat strange in the ancient one's temple morto's first attempts to defeat strange included astral projection schemes and hypnotic control of servants to poison the ancient one strange continually foiled those plans proving himself the superior sorcerer morto lured strange into traps across europe manipulated ectoplasmic warriors and even imprisoned the ancient one but each student was forced to leave the ancient one morto's first attempt to kill strange was defeated seeking greater power morto appealed to dor mamu He simplified his abilities and sent him to destroy Strange. Together they pursued Strange across dimensions, but Dormammu turned on Mordo for interfering in his duel with Strange and banished him to the dimension of demons. Strange later freed Mordo while rescuing other victims, and the ancient one imprisoned him anew. 

Freed again after the defeat of the entity called Zom, Dr. Strange persuaded Mordo to help contain Zom's scattered evil essence, convincing him to act as the vessel for the dark power. Once empowered, Mordo betrayed Strange, attacking him with overwhelming might until Strange used the staff of Polar Power to absorb his excess energy and banish him. Mordo resurfaced, pretending to be Dr. Strange during the Sorcerer Supreme's brief loss of power, but Strange regained his strength and exposed the deception. Obsessed with uncovering ultimate magical truths, Mordo pursued the time-traveling wizard C. Sneg to the dawn of creation, witnessing the reconstruction of the universe itself. 

The sight drove him insane. Strange took him into his care, but Mordo later escaped and renewed his pursuit of dark power. When he robbed the San Gabriel Archives at the Vatican, he attempted to unleash the Chaos Demon by sacrificing 13 victims, including the witch Jennifer Kale, but he was defeated by her and Manthing, whom you can learn more about in his duel with Swamp Thing. Mordo's lust for power often drew him into the service of other dark entities. He created the spectral being Azrael and sent him to slay Dr. 

Strange, later manipulating Manthing to do the same. During a battle that spanned time itself, Mordo returned to the mid-20th century and was ensnared by a plot involving Dormammu and his ancestor, Crowler. Dormammu turned against both Crowler and Mordo, destroying them before Strange used their conflict to banish the demon once more. Afterward, Mordo was recruited into Mifisto's group called the Legion Accursed. You can learn more about Mifisto in his duel against Sandman. In time, Mordo's constant dealings with infernal entities took their toll and he developed terminal cancer. Desperate for a cure, Mordo made simultaneous bargains with both Mifisto and Satanish, promising each his soul. When Mifisto and Satanish arrived to claim him, their conflict threatened to consume all reality until Strange exploited the demon's greed to sever their hold on Mordo, freeing him though leaving him spiritually weakened. Seeking redemption, Mordo returned to Tibet, confessing his sins to Dr. 

Strange and asked for forgiveness. Strange granted it and Mordo died from cancer in peace. He was subsequently pulled from the time stream and recruited by the cosmic collector to join the villainous offenders team alongside Red Hulk, Tarix, and Tiger Shark. Mordo and the group battled Strange and the defenders across time and space before being returned to the exact moment from which he had been taken. Years later, Mordo resurfaced in South America, kidnapping a politician to lure his daughter, the Mune...Monee...Saint Kroy, so he could siphon her life energy to sustain himself. Monee tricked Mordo into thinking he had been cured and allowed him to leave, deluded. Not long after, Mordo appeared to die in Brazil, slain by Thor's enchanted axe, but his body later vanished. 

Mordo reemerged during the period when the Empirical, a fanatical science cult, purged magic from Earth. Having survived by pledging himself once more to Dormammu, he attacked a weakened Dr. Strange in New York, briefly overpowering him before Strange was abducted by the villain Nightmare. Mordo and Dormammu clashed again, and when Dormammu attempted to destroy Strange, Mordo added his power to his old foes, helping banish Dormammu to Shumagorath's realm. 

Despite this uneasy alliance, Mordo quickly turned on Strange, and was defeated once more. When Hydra seized control of the United States, a dark-forced dome enclosed Manhattan. Baron Mordo was appointed caretaker of the city and occupied the Sanctum Sanctorum, where he enslaved the Elder God Pooorg as his guardian. He captured several heroes, including Daredevil, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist, but lost control when Dr. Strange, Spider Woman, Ben Uruk, and Kingpin rallied against him and reclaimed the Sanctum. 

Following these events, Mordo continued serving Dormammu's race, the Valtines, as an enforcer. In this role, he destroyed the demon Barashtak and freed Strange's former apprentice, Casey Kinmont, corrupting her with dark power and sending her against her mentor. After Strange restored Casey's soul, she banished Mordo back to the Void where he remains, alive, scheming, and eternally plotting vengeance against the Sorcerer Supreme. And that is Baron Mordo's backstory. Powers-wise, Baron Mordo has access to a near-limitless number of spells and abilities. Through magic, he can project mystic energies as powerful bolts or protective shields. He can read and cast thoughts, cast illusions, and hypnotize. He can teleport and fly. He can also turn invisible and intangible, and project an incorporeal copy of himself called his astral form. 

Mordo can transmute matter, war-priality, and materialize objects. He has limited time control abilities such as slowing, freezing, and even traveling through time. Also, he can invoke extra-dimensional deities for any number of spells and often utilize his black magic, including necromancy, the magic of the dead. Baron Mordo is an expert in the occult and is a skilled martial artist, having been trained by Tibetan monks. 

He has occasionally carried or manifested a dagger for ritual sacrifice. And there you go. The whole time I was listening to that backstory, I was like, Are you looking off my sheet? Because there are a lot of similarities between Baron Mordo and Felix Faust. It makes sense, because Felix Faust is a total ripoff of Baron Mordo. I'm sorry, what? Felix Faust came out in 1962, my friend. 

Well, Baron Mordo came out in 1963. Exactly! Dammit! Let me get into Felix Faust's backstory. Felix Faust was an ancient sorcerer whose recorded history dates back to around 5000 BC, when he rose within the African Empire of Kor. There, the realm's ruler, King Namo, served as both monarch and guardian of the mystical Flame of Life, a source of near-limitless magical energy. Obsessed with seizing that power, Faust delved into forbidden rites, mastered the dark art of black magic, and summoned legions of shadow spirits to wage war against Namo's kingdom. His sorcery poisoned the skies and drained the land, but Namo absorbed the Flame into himself, turning its power inward to banish Faust's soul to another dimension. For millennia, Faust's disembodied spirit endured imprisonment, sustained only by its hatred and hunger for lost magic. In the 1920s, an occultist named Dekan Drake uncovered records of Faust's confinement and sought to release him, believing he would be rewarded with power. When Drake opened the dimensional gate, Faust devoured his soul and possessed his body. Though restored to life, Faust's magic was greatly reduced, forcing him to rely on familiars, grimoires, and packs with demons to channel power. Determined to reclaim his former strength, he spent decades hunting cursed relics and manipulating occult societies. Over time, he fathered two children, Sebastian and Fauna, both born with traces of his arcane lineage. In his relentless pursuit of power, Faust later attempted to sacrifice Sebastian's soul to the demon Nibiros, but the ritual backfired and beowing his son with magical abilities of his own. Faust sought to regain his lost abilities by summoning and controlling the demons three. 

Abnegazar, Wrath, and Gast, ancient reality-warping entities imprisoned beneath the earth. To gather the relics that bound them, the red jar of Calythos, green bellow Uthul, and silver wheel of Nyarlath, he magically enslaved the Justice League to retrieve them. Once freed, the demons turned on Faust, and Aquaman destroyed the spell's control circle, ending the attempt and sending Faust to prison. Over time, Faust's reliance on infernal power deepened. He repeatedly sold and repurchased his soul, each deal eroding his power further. In desperation, he attempted to deceive Miron, ruler of Hell, by offering an innocent girl's soul instead of his own. Miron sought through the trick and condemned him to a dimension reserved for magicians who abused the laws of magic. After centuries of torment, Faust escaped back to earth, his sanity and power both unstable. 

He returned to prominence as an enemy of the Justice League and as an ally of various villainous factions, including the Injustice Gang and the Seeker Society of Supervillains, serving as their arcane specialist. During this period, his strained relationship with his son Sebastian escalated. When Sebastian joined the outsiders, Faust sent demonic agents to capture him, and in the ensuing conflict, he recovered two of the demon 3's relics, but Halo and Looker destroyed them before he could harness their power. 

You can learn more about the outsiders in their duel against X-Force. Faust's ambitions reached their peak in a ritual known as the Black Baptism. He assembled infernal covens across the globe to siphon the life-horse of Earth's magicians into a single rite that would reset all magic under his control. Demon assassins abducted mystics including Zatana and Deadman to power the ceremony. The Justice League, aided by Blue Devil and Sebastian Faust, disrupted the ritual. 

At its height, Felix attempted to absorb the captured souls, but Sebastian severed the conduit, collapsing the spell. The backlash stripped Faust of his stolen power and scattered his followers, forcing him back into hiding. Years later, Faust resurfaced posing as Dr. Fates, attempting to deceive a long-aided man into trading his soul to Niran in exchange for resurrecting his wife. Ralph Dibney saw through the ruse and reversed the trap, binding both Niran and Faust inside the Tower of Fates. 

Faust eventually escaped, but his reputation amongst occult circles fell even lower. You can learn more about elongated man in Our Elongated Man vs Medusa Duel episode. Following his escape, he allied with Professor Ivo, Solomon Grundy, and Dr. 

Impossible, posing as Deadman to trick Red Tornado into inhabiting a human body, while stealing the android's original shell for experimentation. Faust later joined Talia El Ghul and Cheetah in an attempt to recruit Black Alice into the Seeker Society of Supervillains. When she refused, she turned his own power against him, using it to resurrect her mother. During Black Adam's quest to revive his wife Isis, Faust interfered again, replacing Isis' bones with those of Ralph Dibney to sabotage the resurrection spell. He later revived the real Isis himself and held her captive until she broke free. 

You can learn more about Black Adam in his duel against Apocalypse. Faust remained aligned with the Seeker Society assisting in the creation of the android known as Genocide by collecting the mystical elements needed for her construction. After the Flashpoint reset, Faust's history was rewritten. He was reimagined as the son of Majika, one of Earth's first sorcerers and an heir to a long lineage of dark magicians. In the 1500s, he allied with Vandal Savage and trained an apprentice named Aurora, pursuing immortality through forbidden magic. 

During this period, he encountered time-traveling heroes Robin and Superboy, who disrupted one of his rituals and forced him to retreat. In the modern era, Faust became obsessed with finding the books of magic, a compendium set to contain all arcane knowledge. To acquire the secrets of the damned sorcerer Nick Necro, Faust sold his soul to a demon trading his mortality for Necro's power. 

The pact granted him vast new abilities but left his body pale and corpse-like. Together with Nick Necro and Dr. Mist, he sought to seize the books of magic from the Justice League Dark. Their scheme was undone by John Constantine and Faust was captured by Argus and confined within their Black Room facility. 

You can learn more about the Justice League Dark and John Constantine and their respective duels against the Midnight Suns and Brother Voodoo. During the crime syndicate's invasion, Faust was conscripted alongside Necro to construct a magical weapon called the Thaumaton, designed to harness and destroy divine energy. Working beside Enchantress, Sargon the Sorcerer, Blue Devil, and Zatana, Faust helped power the device until the Justice League Dark sabotaged it in a battle at Nanda Parbat, leaving him powerless once more. Faust later reappeared among the Occult Underworld when industrialist Henry Bendix attempted to hire sorcerers to kill Midnighter and Apollo. 

He declined the offer, unwilling to serve others' agendas. His powers gradually returned and his ghastly form faded. The extra-dimensional entities known as the Otherkind began consuming magical beings, Faust was among their victims. 

Bound nearly mindless by Zatana and Wonder Woman, he regained just enough awareness to reveal a clue to the Sorcerer Mordor's location, reverie trading again into obscurity. That's Faust's backstory so far. Powers-wise, Felix Faust is a master sorcerer with expertise in soul magic, necromancy, and infernal packs. His abilities include spellcasting, energy projection, elemental manipulation, illusion, telepathy, teleportation, and summoning entities such as the Demon's Three. He can bind, transfer, or resurrect souls, create magical constructs, and scry across great distances. Faust's power is largely drawn from external sources, like familiars, relics, grimoires, or demonic patrons, due to the degradation of his natural magic reserves. He is vulnerable to pure divine magic and cannot safely channel it without a medium. 

Though physically frail, he compensates with defensive wards, decoys, escape spells, and other occult resources. That's Felix Faust. What a coward. 

Uh, it fucking works, kinda. Like Baron Mordo, he doesn't have the greatest history of success. That's the problem with villains and their backstories. It just turns into a long string of failures over time because the hero always wins. 

Pfft, lame. But villains should not be discounted, or at least Baron Mordo shouldn't be. And especially Felix Faust. Mike Podcast Network presents Console Combat, where video game legends brawl every Monday. Dynamic Duel, where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max Destruction, where TV and action heroes battle every Wednesday. 

And Cendro World, where anime champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on the matches and armed with the power of mathematical simulations discover who will emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com, where we settle the debate and settle the score. But now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not this speculation. 

But it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules. Other than the characters have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. 

The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's get into it. Felix Faust and Baron Mordo meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? 

You always go first, so I'm going to go first this time. Baron Mordo is going to start off by pulling out this dagger from his cloak, and he drags it across the palm of his hand, drawing blood, and that's going to summon this giant tentacle that erupts from the ground beneath him. It's going to be like 20 yards long, and it just smacks the shit out of Felix Faust, sending him flying across the floor and breaking all of his ribs. Alright, well if you have a dagger, I'm going to say Felix Faust at least has a small grimoire that floats in his hand. So as that tentacle is coming out of the ground, Faust's book is going to flip to a specific page that he's going to read from, and it's going to ignite that tentacle on fire and cause it to screech in pain and then just return back to the ground. And once it does that, Faust flips to another page, and recites a spell that causes Baron Mordo's dagger to melt and it just slips out of his grasp into a puddle on the ground. 

Okay, so the dagger becomes a puddle. We'll say like the puddle's the size of a manhole cover, and Mordo casts a spell on it, and out of this puddle leaps this silver skeleton who's holding a sword, like a cutlass, and then like five more skeletons pop out of this puddle, and all six of them charge at Felix Faust and just stab his ass repeatedly. Okay, but Faust, he's going to counter with a spell on his own shadow that's going to cause it to duplicate, and from the shadows emerge these dark like magic Faust clones that are all going to blast the silver skeletons with these eldritch fireballs, and that's going to make those bones scatter all over the environment. Okay, but Mordo is going to compress all of these shadow clones into a shadow ball of like dark energy, and it's going to continue to press until it becomes like this magical singularity, like a black hole that pulls Faust into it and sends them to like this dark dimension of pain and spikes, like an iron maiden dimension where he's pierced for the rest of eternity. Actually, Faust divined from the scattered silver skeleton bones that Mordo was going to attempt to put him into a dark dimension. 

So he was prepared. He just turned invisible and from his cloak, he pulled out this small doll that grew in size and that got sucked into the dark dimension instead. And each time that doll gets pierced, it's actually Mordo that feels the pain because it's like a voodoo doll. Okay, well, once Mordo starts feeling the spikes from this voodoo doll, he's going to pull out of his cloak a tarot card and it's basically the same thing as like a magic Uno reverse card. So instead of Mordo feeling pain from getting pierced, it's Faust because the voodoo doll now represents Faust and Faust is getting poked and it causes him to drop out of his invisibility. Shit. 

Okay. Well, once Faust starts to feel the piercings of his flesh, he telekinetically positions the doll within the spike dimension so that it's pierced in a specific way, like a stigmata combined with his chakra points. And that's actually going to amplify his power. So with these glowing lines connecting these pierced points on his body, this third eye is going to appear glowing on his forehead. And from it, he shoots this massive sized beam of magic energy straight at Mordo. And this can't be Uno reversed, by the way, because the card gets destroyed. Well, wouldn't destroying an Uno reverse card just destroy yourself? 

No, because it's like a draw for wild type of counter magic energy. Shit. Okay. So the card gets destroyed. Mordo gets knocked down from the blast, but he manages to quickly throw up a magic shield. That's like in the shape of this mouth, like a fanged mouth that feeds on Faust's third eye energy. It's going to absorb it and feed it back to Mordo. And this absorption is going to drain Faust. It's going to turn him into like this desiccated corpse. And like his soul just gets sucked right out of his third eye. 

And then he falls to the ground, just dead. And Mordo is like glowing with all this red evil energy that was fed to him. Well, that's funny that you think Faust needs his soul. So Faust's body falls to the ground and splatters, basically. 

And it's going to get absorbed into the earth. But suddenly from beneath Mordo, thousands of these tiny human veins and arteries quickly spurt from the ground and cover him in like a net. And that's going to leech into a skin and that glowing red energy suddenly turns black as Mordo's magically poisoned. And slowly his facial features are going to turn into that of Felix Faust, who is taking over Mordo's body. And since he's the last one standing, he wins the duel. Well, I think Baron Mordo would realize that he's being magically poisoned by these veins and arteries from the ground. So he's going to drink a potion that he pulls from his cloak and it's going to cure him of his magic poison. And he just pukes up Faust, who's just this like gross pile of biomass on the ground. 

And therefore Mordo wins. No, but this biomass is going to grow Faust's head and like a semblance of a human body, like like the creature from the thing. OK. And from that creature's body emerges a bell, wheel and a jar, which are going to summon the demons three. And under Faust's will, they're going to reshape reality so that Baron Mordo's mind like inverts itself, revealing his darkest secrets and fears. And he's going to live out eternity tormented by his own nightmares. So Faust wins. That's that's some dark shit, kind of like a nightmare that Felix Faust wakes up from because this whole battle was just a hypnotic illusion that Felix Faust was experiencing while in reality he's bleeding out from being sacrificed by Baron Mordo to Dormammu. 

Really, you're going to pull the whole it was all a dream. Yep. Baron Mordo sacrificed Felix Faust to Dormammu. And that's what really happened. I guess we can leave it there. Either that happens or we don't take the lazy way out and Felix Faust actually traps Baron Mordo and his own nightmarish hell. Let's leave the match there and put the stats run the simulations and come back with a winner. 

A G9K hit it. Inputting data, running calculations, processing results, simulations complete. All right. I mentioned earlier that these characters had similar backstories and it's not really any surprise they had very similar stats. They're basically the same character, like speed, versatility, invasiveness, durability, perception, intellect, strength, range, damage, their feats, their stats were all exactly the same. They differed in one category, however, and that was fighting skill. Surprisingly, Felix Faust is one of the weakest fighters in DC, whereas Baron Mordo does not really fight, but it is established canon. 

And this is reflected on Marvel's official power grid stats for him that he has some fight training from Tibetan monks. Considering that, Jonathan, tell me who you think is winning this match. It's of course going to be close. 

I can only pray for a statistical miracle, essentially. I will say that Instagram thinks that Felix Faust is going to win. 60% of them voted in his favor in our Instagram poll. 

Well, I think that's just a bunch of DC fans on Instagram jumping on the bandwagon because DC has won a few recently. They're going to learn today. They might not going to lie. Well, let's find out. 

HG9K, the results, please. Hey, you are, sir. All right. 

The winner between Felix Faust and Baron Mordo is Baron motherfucking Mordo. Yeah. Congratulations. You're going to stay married. Oh, I can't wait to show my wife this episode. 

She'll finally respect you again. Can I just say how stupid it is that it came down to the fighting stat? Well, I mean, if they're going tit for tat through all their thousand battles, at some point things might turn physical because they've exhausted everything else. And I don't mean in that way. I mean, like a physical fight. And if it comes down to that, yeah, Baron Mordo is going to take it. But really, I don't see it coming down to that very often. I guess in approximately like 37 matches or so out of the thousand. Wait, what were the win percentages? 

Oh, yeah. Baron Mordo won 537 matches out of a thousand, whereas Felix Faust won 463. So it was 53.7 percent over 46.3 percent. OK, so pretty close. Not surprised. 

Not close enough. DC just can't hang with how awesome Marvel is. It's embarrassing. You should be embarrassed for this loss. I hope you are along with all DC fans. Marvel fans, go ahead and pat yourselves on the back. You did it. You did it this time. Yeah, this time this time you got lucky. Yeah, Marvel fans getting lucky. Unlike DC fans, fucking virgins. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that. H &K, help close us out. Spotify, Podchaser or on our website. Don't forget to listen to the other shows in the Dynamite podcast network, including Max Destruction, Senjo World and Console Combat. In our next episode, Continuing Spooktober, we will be pitting the lords of the underworld against each other, Nieran versus Hella. That'll be a good one. I'm looking forward to that. And the episode following that, which will be our Halloween duel, which will keep a secret until our next episode. 

But that does it for this one. We want to give a big thanks to our executive producers, John Staroski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcom, Mickey Muthin-Gian, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yatyn, Austin Wieselowski, AJ Dunkerly, Nick Obanto, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spees, Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Josh Schleiner, Mike Williams and Paul Graves for helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. Honestly, I tried to bring that Uno draw four wild card energy into daily life.