Felix Faust vs Baron Mordo


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• 0:00:00 - Introduction
• 0:03:55 - No-Prize Time
• 0:10:24 - Wonder Man Official Trailer
• 0:14:27 - Bat-Fam Official Trailer
• 0:17:01 - Question of the Week
• 0:17:48 - Marvin Jones III to play Tombstone in Spider-Man: Brand New Day
• 0:19:33 - Batman: Knightfall animated films announced
• 0:21:57 - Felix Faust vs Baron Mordo intro
• 0:24:51 - Baron Mordo history and abilities
• 0:33:48 - Felix Faust history and abilities
• 0:42:49 - Fight speculation
• 0:51:19 - Duel results
• 0:54:27 - Sign off
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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi, welcome to
the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we
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review superhero films and debate the
superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
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their characters in stat-based battle
simulations. I'm Johnny DC and I'm his twin
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brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode we are
doing another spooktober duel, this time pitting
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the dark sorcerers of Felix Faust and Baron Mordo
against each other. Yeah, basically my wife told
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me that if Marvel doesn't fucking win one, then
she's gonna divorce me. So there's a lot writing on
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this one. Literally she said like in the last
episode she was like, I'm sick of this shit. So
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we're really writing on this one guys. Baron
Mordo, I think has a good chance of winning this. I
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don't think that's right. I think DC is gonna get
another win. I think you're fucked. I think you're
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a fuck. I think that's a compliment. I'm not 100%
though. But we're gonna run the stats and figure
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out who's gonna win between those two characters
later on in the episode. Before that we're gonna
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break down the comic book movie news of which there
was quite a bit because we had New York Comic Con
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this past week. So we got a Wonder Man official
trailer, a Bat Fam official trailer. We learned
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that Marvin Crandon Jones III is going to play
Tombstone in Spider-Man Brand New Day. And we
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learned that Batman Nightfall animated films are
in the works. As always we list our segment times in
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our episode description so feel free to check out
the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a
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particular topic. Our artificially intelligent
dual simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our
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listeners so listen up. Thanks AJ9K and thanks to
everyone who supports the podcast. Be sure to tune
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into the other shows on the Dynamics Podcast
Network this week including the console combat
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podcast where hosts John and Dean simulate
battles between popular video game characters.
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And yesterday's episode they celebrated their
100th episode with a special Colin show. I
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personally was not able to call in at the time they
were live streaming but I did send a voice note in.
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Super proud of those guys for making 100 episodes.
It's not easy to do for a podcast. So be sure to tune
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into that. It's a huge deal. Over on the Max
Destruction Podcast hosts Scotty and Gilly pay
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your favor action heroes from film and television
against each other. On Wednesday they're going to
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find out who would win between Hugh Jackman's
Wolverine and the Creeper from Jeepers Creepers.
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That'll be a fun one. On the Central World Podcast
hosts Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights
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between fan favorite anime and manga characters.
In his next episode Zach is revealing who would win
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between Whitebeard and Kanpachi both from One
Piece. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the
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link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows
in the Dynamics Podcast Network. But with that out
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of the way quick to the no prize. The no prize is an
award that Marvel used to give out to fans. Our
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version the Dynamic Dual No Prize is a digital
award we post on Instagram for the person that we
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feel gave the best answer to our question of the
week. Last week we asked you guys what do you think
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has been the scariest moment in a Marvel or DC film
or TV series and we asked this because it's
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Halloween season. Got a lot of great answers let's
run down our honorable mentions as well as the no
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prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to
Travis Herndon who said what's up dynamic dudes
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Travis here shout out to Mabel Twin so my scariest
moment would have to be watching the Flash movie no
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it's like not but my answer would have to be
Guardians of the Galaxy volume 3's Rockets
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backstory just while it's not like a spooky scary
thing just seeing like what rocket and the rest of
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the animals there had to go through with the
experimentation and the body modifications that
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is kind of scary to watch especially if you're an
animal lover so that's my pick Rockets backstory.
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Yeah that was really creepy in like a body horror
sense the experiments that the animals went
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through under the high evolutionary was not just
like creepy to look at but it was also really
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uncomfortable to think about in terms of like
animal torture you had Lila the otter who's like
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arms were missing and then Tiefs who if I remember
correctly had wheels and then there was Floor the
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rabbit who they gave like spider legs and like
removed its entire jaw it was truly horrifying
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yeah great answer Travis our next honorable
mention goes to Mason Thompson who said what's up
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y'all um I kind of had to think about this but once I
thought about it immediately the trench attack
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from Aquaman oh my gosh seeing that it just gives
like jaw vibes or like 30 meters down like just all
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of them surrounding them terrifying dude had me
butt clenched all right thanks peace I too was butt
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clenched during that scene it was really well done
by horror master James Wan who directed Aquaman
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I've been feeling the trench were put into that
movie specifically for that scene so that he could
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exercise his horror talent in the movie I haven't
seen the movie too many times but yeah that scene
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does stick out to me I remember just seeing like the
entire swarm of trench like there were so many more
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than you could possibly fathom down in those
depths and I was really like nervous for how
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Aquaman was going to get out of that well even
before that when they're still on the boat and
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they're climbing on board and like breaking
windows and stuff like that that was why great
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answer our next honorable mention goes to Alex
Albro and by Dear Bangora who gave the same answer
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and that is hey guys I know it's iconic but the
scariest moment in a Marvel movie for me honestly
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is the blood rave and the first blade movie it's
just freaky to look at man especially for the time
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you know it's just scary image odd way to start a
movie I'm not sure I was there for it kind of made me
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freak out a little bit going into the first blade
movie you know I'm just out here trying to ice skate
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uphill not take a literal blood bath thanks guys
bye dynamic doll I think the scariest moment has to
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be the blood rave during blade I think that was
terrifying just to be put in that position and be
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surrounded by vampires and when blood pouring
must be extremely devastating this is Badiere
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thank you yeah I feel like the blood rave scene is
kind of like a pop culture touchstone like a lot of
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people know about the blood rave scene probably
even if you haven't seen the blade movie I think but
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I remember like seeing the movie in theaters when I
came out in 1998 and Jesus I was only like 12 years
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old but I remember the guy at the club and like all of
a sudden stuff started dripping on him and he was as
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confused as the audience was and then we realized
that it was blood and I just remember being like
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holy shit like oh oh no no because it all started and
then it turns out literally every single other
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person at that rave was a vampire like he was the
only human that was nuts I was like this is so
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nightmarish like what a crazy concept for it to be
just raining blood on you and just you're totally
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fucked like there's no way you're getting out of it
and then of course blade shows up and saves the day
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but uh yeah it was it was pretty freaky on that first
watch and then on subsequent watches it kind of
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became cool because you knew that blade was coming
and that you were about to get a great action scene
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but yeah that first time was really unsettling
it's still my favorite scene from a blade movie and
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it was like the first blade movie scene yeah they
just nailed it right out the gate for sure great
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answer alex and by dear but the winner of this
week's no prize is Lorenzo Valdes who said I would
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say that the scariest moment in a marvel or dc movie
is in the dark night when they're in mayor Garcia's
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office and the imposter batman slams against the
window and I picked this moment because that's a
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movie I've seen so many times and yet over and over
and over again the moment works as a jump scare for
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me clon of forever and always bye bye I still
remember physically jolting out of my seat when
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the imposter batman slammed against mayor
Garcia's window I was not expecting that it kind of
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came out of nowhere it's like the ultimate jump
scare within a superhero film for sure I could even
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concede that this is definitely the scariest
moment out of all the marvel and dc films I remember
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jumping in my seat too and you know it's like unfair
because you're not expecting it because the dark
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night is not a horror film I remember like not
appreciating it in the theaters when it happened I
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was like I didn't sign up for this shit like what's
going on here is this a scary movie now am I gonna
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have to expect this later on but no I thought I
thought it was a really effective moment in
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selling the shock of the jokers actions and how he
is just chaos incarnate yeah you never quite knew
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what he was gonna do and when he was gonna do it and
the video that was attached to the imposter batman
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of the joker torturing him that was also pretty
terrifying yeah there are a lot of terrifying
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joker moments in that film but that is the standout
one so great answer Lorenzo Valdes you win this
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week's no prize if you're the listener want to shot
at winning your own no prize stay tuned to later on
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in this episode when we'll be asking another
question of the week and now that that's done off to
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the news all right this past week was new york city
comic con where we got a lot of marvel television
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news they had an entire panel alongside the marvel
animation division we got some looks at daredevil
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born again season two where we got to see a trailer
that also featured jessica jones although that
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trailer wasn't featured publicly it was leaked
but we'll wait for that to be officially released
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so that people could see it there was also news
about vision quest and x-men 97 and your friendly
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neighborhood spider-man season two but the main
news that we got that was officially released was a
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trailer for wonder man which is a television
series that's going to be debuting in january of
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2026 its release date got pushed back a little bit
from its original december date and i gotta say i
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knew that they were going to focus on simon
williams as an actor within this wonder man series
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and that wonder man was basically a role that he was
going to play that's all fine you know simon
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williams is one of the only superhero actors in
marvel comics and it is definitely a unique
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approach and angle that we haven't really seen
before within these marvel shows and films that
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being said my biggest takeaway from the wonder man
trailer was that this does not feel at all like a
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superhero show and it seems intentionally to be
that way like they were trying to do something
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completely different within the genre i don't
quite know if i like the idea or not just based on
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this trailer i mean i'll say that the show looks
good for what it is i kind of like how meta it is how
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this auteur film director is recreating the
wonder man popular television series from either
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like the 70s or 80s i don't know it looks like flash
gordon to me which is pretty interesting but you
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know the origin of wonder man from the comic books
is that he was kind of like a tony stark rival whose
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business was driven into the ground he went to
prison for shady business dealings and then baron
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zemo offered him a chance to get back at tony stark
by undergoing an experiment that turned his body
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into ionic energy i mean we go into his backstory in
our captain adam versus wonder man dual episode
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this looks completely removed from that now maybe
that whole backstory will kind of be loosely
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adapted into the fictional backstory of the
wonder man character within the series that
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they're adapting in this show and that would be
great but that's definitely not going to be the
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origin story for yaya abdul matine the second's
character yeah it makes me wonder if we're
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actually going to see yaya abdul matine as wonder
man and is he going to throw hands i'm not convinced
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by this trailer i don't know if we'll see yaya in his
ionic form i'm sure we'll definitely see him in the
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wonder man suit i'm assuming that at some point his
character will get superpowers that are similar
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to wonder man's power set from the comic books and
then he'll be an actor who played the role of wonder
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man who became a superhero during the filming
process and then goes on to fight evil after making
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this movie i feel like it's not going to be that way
just because they anticipate the audience
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expecting something like that and i think they
want to do something completely different with
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this yeah they might pull like a she-hulk or
something where there is no big fight between good
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versus evil in the show's climax and maybe subvert
it in some way but that wouldn't be satisfying just
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like how the end to she-hulk wasn't satisfying i
hope they don't do that i hope this character
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becomes an actual superhero and doesn't just play
one i love that ben kingsley is returning as trevor
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slattery like that was one of my favorite parts of
this trailer just seeing him as that character
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again his trevor slattery is great for sure i'm
wondering if simon williams gets the role of
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wonder man in this movie then who is trevor gonna
play considering that he also auditions for the
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same part i guess we'll find out when the show comes
out on january 27th in dc news we got the official
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trailer for prime videos bat fam animated series
this is a spinoff of the holiday film they put out a
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few years ago mary little batman which we reviewed
which i thought was great for the family after
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watching this trailer i'm less enthused by the
whole approach they decided to take with this show
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when i hear bat fam i think nightwing red hood robin
bat girl that whole cast of characters but based on
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this trailer we're getting a pyrachonetic named
claire alfred's niece alicia a ghost of rossel
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ghoul a geriatric man bat it's just fucking weird
the bat fam nobody asked for exactly exactly and
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again i love the charming animation style the
character designs are actually pretty great
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especially when it comes to like killer croc and
clay face and stuff like that but it's just so
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different from what i was hoping they would do that
it's really hard to get excited about this show
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well i mean one of the appeals of mary little batman
was seeing how that particular art style depicted
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characters that you know and love like batman like
the joker it was all just part of the magic right and
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yeah you're right seeing characters like clay
face and killer croc adapted in this style looks
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like a whole lot of fun i also was really hoping to
see how they were going to take the characters that
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were used to seeing the bat family and depicting
them in that art style too like i imagine that
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nightwing would be like really buff and then like
they really focus on his glutes right and red hood
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would be real like emo you know always having his
head down and stuff like that it would have been
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cool to see in the style of animation absolutely
and so we have these characters in the trailer and
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i'm just left wondering why like why would you take
a stable of characters that are beloved amongst
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comic fans and just completely disregard it i'll
probably still end up watching this show because i
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have prime and why not and i may actually find the
humor and storytelling charming but i can't
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stress enough how much they dropped the ball and
how disappointed i am that this should have been
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something very different yeah i mean you may end up
liking it but even if you do you're still gonna
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wonder what could have been if they gave you more of
what you wanted all in all there's a lot of
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questionable decisions for this show and with
wonder man so that brings us to our question of the
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week regarding the wonder man and batfam series
trailers what the fuck did i just watch wrong
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answers only i guess a good way to approach this
question is if you had to retitle these shows to be
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more in line with your own personal thoughts on the
trailers what would they be called record your
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prize that will post to instagram be sure to answer
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before october 18th in other marvel news we
learned this past week according to deadline that
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marvin jones the third aka crondon is going to play
the crime boss tombstone in the upcoming
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spider-man brand new day film tombstone being a
spider-man villain a street level spider-man
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villain one of the enforcers of the magea crime
family the character appeared in the spider-man
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into the spider-verse film where he was actually
voiced by marvin jones the third so it'll be cool to
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see him now play that role in live action i mean if
you could do it any differently from how he played
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to bias wail in the black lightning tv series i'm
skeptical that's right yeah he did already play dc
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villain who is very similar at least i guess an
attitude if not in power set i don't know what to
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bias wail's powers are actually well he's a albino
gangster essentially a crime boss well that's
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what tombstone is he's exactly you know gangster
okay all right well we'll see how this goes i'm sure
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he'll take a somewhat different approach from his
role in black lightning but it's cool that he'll
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have done both in marvel and dc live action villain
role when this film comes out the inclusion of
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tombstone definitely reinforces the idea that
this is going to be a street level film which is very
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interesting to me yeah it's gonna have tombstone
in it it's gonna have the punisher in it it's gonna
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be a very different type of film than what we've
been getting from the spider-man franchise i
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think it's gonna be more grounded maybe that'll be
pretty interesting to see execs have made some
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comments that there are some like story tie-ins
from daredevil born against season two if you want
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to learn more about tombstone go ahead and check
out our dual episode where we pit him against
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blockbuster and hopefully we'll get to see what
the character looks like either in like set videos
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or an upcoming trailer or something like that
again the movie is gonna come out in 2026 on july
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31st in dc news my favorite news to come out of new
york comic con it was revealed that the batman
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nightfall storyline is being put into production
as a multi-part animated film part one is coming
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out next year in 2026 and it's going to focus on bane
really seeing batman's rogues gallery from
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arkham asylum and batman's quest to capture all of
them nightfall is one of my favorite stories from
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the comics it spanned multiple batman series
written by some of batman's best writers from
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history including doug moanch chuck dixon ellen
granton denny o'neill and peter david of course it
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includes the famous breaking of batman's back by
bane and the rise of asriel as a new armor-wearing
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tech focused batman i'm sure we'll see asriel's
rise in part two but i can't wait to see the whole
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storyline played out on screen i never thought we
would get an animated adaptation of that so it's
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exciting to see them start to take a look at some of
the popular comic book story arcs and adapt those i
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was actually surprised by this news because i
thought that james gunn was only going to start
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featuring animated projects that tied into his
dcu projects like creature commandos that could
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be the case for this for all we know this could be a
prequel of sorts or like a flashback-esque story a
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prequel to the dcu version of batman possibly
interesting it would be a good way to get much
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needed exposition and backstory out of the way
that way people could just jump right in with a live
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action movie whenever that comes out i mean since
we've already seen batman get his back broken on
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film in christopher nollens the dark knight rises
i'm sure there's no real need to retread that same
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territory in live action so this approach may just
get that out of the way i am skeptical that this is
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actually true it's interesting speculation
whether it is or isn't i'm still pumped for it
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because again that's a fantastic storyline it's
the equivalent of the death of superman in my book
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just a pivotal moment in batman's career yeah
where stakes actually meant something exactly
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just how we didn't know if superman was going to
come back we didn't know when bruce wane was going
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to return to the cowl we weren't told how many parts
the story was going to be told in but it's at least
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two if they do three i'm here for it my body is ready
but then does it for all the news for this episode
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let's go ahead and move on to the main event where we
find out who is going to win between the dc and
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marvel sorcerer characters of phoenix foust and
baron mordo okay phoenix foust versus baron mordo
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as i stated earlier in the episode these are two
dark sorcerer villainous characters within dc
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baron mordo of course was played by chouatelle in
the dr strange films we haven't seen phoenix foust
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in live action that i'm aware of but he has been
featured pretty frequently in animated works
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yeah he had a really cool badass fight scene
against zetana in just asly dark i want to say the
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film was right this is going to be kind of similar to
our dr fate versus dr strange dual episode i think
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but considering that these characters are both
villains we're going to dabble more into the dark
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magic side of things yeah i think it'll be pretty
fun to explain the methodology behind our duels
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let's go to our sentient dual simulator elford
jarvis 9000 aj9k tell our listeners how you go
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about determining a winner in our dual matchups
yes of course sir the way i determine a winner
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between the contestants is by running 1000
montecarlo simulations using the characters
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statistics a montecarlo simulation is a
probabilistic model used to determine outcomes
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through random sampling in this case i randomize
the statistics along a normal distribution as a
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way to simulate the many variables that can occur
during battle the stat parameters are based on the
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official marvel power grid from which the dc
characters statistics are extrapolated
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additional stat categories are included such as
range damage potential versatility and
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perception in order to create a more detailed and
accurate simulation the results of the 1000
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simulations provide a percentage of wins for each
character the contestant with the higher
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percentage is declared the victor as they have a
higher probability to win any given battle in an
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equitable pairing neither character should win
100 of the matches the comic book stories have
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shown that there's even a way for batman to defeat
superman so the confidence rate of my method falls
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in line with the precedents that have been
established in the source material my
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mathematical simulations are without
subjectivity or bias feats are not the whole
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consideration nor are fan votes tabulated for
determination of the winner thanks aj and iak
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before we run the simulations though we'd like to
break down each character's histories and
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abilities before improvising a scenario on how we
imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out
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beat for beat i believe it's my turn to go first with
the marvel characters backstory so let me tell you
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all about baron morto carl amadeus morto was born
in the transylvanian village of varfondra to
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baron nicolai morto and baroness sarah crawler
his grandfather viscount hindrack crawler of
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bavaria sought revenge against the allied powers
after world war two and attempted to steal
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nicolai's emerging magical power through a spell
of transference when the spell failed crawler
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ordered his daughter to marry nicolai so that
their child could serve as a conduit for the power
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he craved sarah complied and nine months later
gave birth to carl raised in a cold household
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carl's father was obsessed with restoring his
homeland to feudal glory while his mother
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regarded her son merely as a pawn in her father's
schemes when crawler ordered sarah to kill her
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husband she obeyed and fled with carl to bavaria
where crawler trained his grandson in black magic
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after learning the truth of his father's death
carl swore vengeance on both his mother and
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grandfather and vowed to rebuild a world ruled by
his own power as a young man morto traveled to tebet
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to find the ancient one a powerful sorcerer said to
guard the secrets of true magic in the ancient ones
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himalayan sanctuary morto's body aged slowly
under the effects of the mountain's mystical aura
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though the ancient ones saw darkness in his new
pupil's heart he chose to teach him anyway hoping
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to guide him toward wisdom while studying ancient
scrolls morto learned of the dread dor mamu the
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ruler of the dark dimension against his master's
orders he contacted dor mamu finding himself to
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the demon's influence morto returned to bavaria
sacrificing both his mother and grandfather to
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dor mamu before continuing his studies under the
ancient one plotting to one day sacrifice him as
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well you can learn more about dor mamu in his duel
against the demon trigon when another student
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steven strange arrived seeking healing for his
injured hands morto viewed him as a rival upon
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discovering morto's plot to kill their teacher
strange tried to warn the ancient one but morto
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silenced him with a binding spell the ancient one
was aware of morto's treachery all along and freed
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strange who accepted apprenticeship to stop
morto's schemes you can find out more about
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morto's attempts to defeat strange in the ancient
one's temple morto's first attempts to defeat
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strange included astral projection schemes and
hypnotic control of servants to poison the
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ancient one strange continually foiled those
plans proving himself the superior sorcerer
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morto lured strange into traps across europe
manipulated ectoplasmic warriors and even
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imprisoned the ancient one but each student was
forced to leave the ancient one morto's first
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attempt to kill strange was defeated seeking
greater power morto appealed to dor mamu He
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simplified his abilities and sent him to destroy
Strange. Together they pursued Strange across
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dimensions, but Dormammu turned on Mordo for
interfering in his duel with Strange and banished
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him to the dimension of demons. Strange later
freed Mordo while rescuing other victims, and the
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ancient one imprisoned him anew. Freed again
after the defeat of the entity called Zom, Dr.
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Strange persuaded Mordo to help contain Zom's
scattered evil essence, convincing him to act as
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the vessel for the dark power. Once empowered,
Mordo betrayed Strange, attacking him with
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overwhelming might until Strange used the staff
of Polar Power to absorb his excess energy and
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banish him. Mordo resurfaced, pretending to be
Dr. Strange during the Sorcerer Supreme's brief
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loss of power, but Strange regained his strength
and exposed the deception. Obsessed with
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uncovering ultimate magical truths, Mordo
pursued the time-traveling wizard C. Sneg to the
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dawn of creation, witnessing the reconstruction
of the universe itself. The sight drove him
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insane. Strange took him into his care, but Mordo
later escaped and renewed his pursuit of dark
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power. When he robbed the San Gabriel Archives at
the Vatican, he attempted to unleash the Chaos
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Demon by sacrificing 13 victims, including the
witch Jennifer Kale, but he was defeated by her and
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Manthing, whom you can learn more about in his duel
with Swamp Thing. Mordo's lust for power often
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drew him into the service of other dark entities.
He created the spectral being Azrael and sent him
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to slay Dr. Strange, later manipulating Manthing
to do the same. During a battle that spanned time
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itself, Mordo returned to the mid-20th century
and was ensnared by a plot involving Dormammu and
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his ancestor, Crowler. Dormammu turned against
both Crowler and Mordo, destroying them before
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Strange used their conflict to banish the demon
once more. Afterward, Mordo was recruited into
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Mifisto's group called the Legion Accursed. You
can learn more about Mifisto in his duel against
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Sandman. In time, Mordo's constant dealings with
infernal entities took their toll and he
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developed terminal cancer. Desperate for a cure,
Mordo made simultaneous bargains with both
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Mifisto and Satanish, promising each his soul.
When Mifisto and Satanish arrived to claim him,
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their conflict threatened to consume all reality
until Strange exploited the demon's greed to
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sever their hold on Mordo, freeing him though
leaving him spiritually weakened. Seeking
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redemption, Mordo returned to Tibet, confessing
his sins to Dr. Strange and asked for forgiveness.
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Strange granted it and Mordo died from cancer in
peace. He was subsequently pulled from the time
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stream and recruited by the cosmic collector to
join the villainous offenders team alongside Red
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Hulk, Tarix, and Tiger Shark. Mordo and the group
battled Strange and the defenders across time and
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space before being returned to the exact moment
from which he had been taken. Years later, Mordo
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resurfaced in South America, kidnapping a
politician to lure his daughter, the
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Mune...Monee...Saint Kroy, so he could siphon
her life energy to sustain himself. Monee tricked
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Mordo into thinking he had been cured and allowed
him to leave, deluded. Not long after, Mordo
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appeared to die in Brazil, slain by Thor's
enchanted axe, but his body later vanished. Mordo
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reemerged during the period when the Empirical, a
fanatical science cult, purged magic from Earth.
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Having survived by pledging himself once more to
Dormammu, he attacked a weakened Dr. Strange in
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New York, briefly overpowering him before
Strange was abducted by the villain Nightmare.
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Mordo and Dormammu clashed again, and when
Dormammu attempted to destroy Strange, Mordo
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added his power to his old foes, helping banish
Dormammu to Shumagorath's realm. Despite this
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uneasy alliance, Mordo quickly turned on
Strange, and was defeated once more. When Hydra
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seized control of the United States, a
dark-forced dome enclosed Manhattan. Baron
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Mordo was appointed caretaker of the city and
occupied the Sanctum Sanctorum, where he
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enslaved the Elder God Pooorg as his guardian. He
captured several heroes, including Daredevil,
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Luke Cage, and Iron Fist, but lost control when Dr.
Strange, Spider Woman, Ben Uruk, and Kingpin
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rallied against him and reclaimed the Sanctum.
Following these events, Mordo continued serving
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Dormammu's race, the Valtines, as an enforcer. In
this role, he destroyed the demon Barashtak and
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freed Strange's former apprentice, Casey
Kinmont, corrupting her with dark power and
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sending her against her mentor. After Strange
restored Casey's soul, she banished Mordo back to
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the Void where he remains, alive, scheming, and
eternally plotting vengeance against the
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Sorcerer Supreme. And that is Baron Mordo's
backstory. Powers-wise, Baron Mordo has access
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to a near-limitless number of spells and
abilities. Through magic, he can project mystic
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energies as powerful bolts or protective
shields. He can read and cast thoughts, cast
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illusions, and hypnotize. He can teleport and
fly. He can also turn invisible and intangible,
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and project an incorporeal copy of himself called
his astral form. Mordo can transmute matter,
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war-priality, and materialize objects. He has
limited time control abilities such as slowing,
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freezing, and even traveling through time. Also,
he can invoke extra-dimensional deities for any
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number of spells and often utilize his black
magic, including necromancy, the magic of the
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dead. Baron Mordo is an expert in the occult and is a
skilled martial artist, having been trained by
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Tibetan monks. He has occasionally carried or
manifested a dagger for ritual sacrifice. And
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there you go. The whole time I was listening to that
backstory, I was like, Are you looking off my
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sheet? Because there are a lot of similarities
between Baron Mordo and Felix Faust. It makes
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sense, because Felix Faust is a total ripoff of
Baron Mordo. I'm sorry, what? Felix Faust came out
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in 1962, my friend. Well, Baron Mordo came out in
1963. Exactly! Dammit! Let me get into Felix
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Faust's backstory. Felix Faust was an ancient
sorcerer whose recorded history dates back to
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around 5000 BC, when he rose within the African
Empire of Kor. There, the realm's ruler, King
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Namo, served as both monarch and guardian of the
mystical Flame of Life, a source of
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near-limitless magical energy. Obsessed with
seizing that power, Faust delved into forbidden
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rites, mastered the dark art of black magic, and
summoned legions of shadow spirits to wage war
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against Namo's kingdom. His sorcery poisoned the
skies and drained the land, but Namo absorbed the
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Flame into himself, turning its power inward to
banish Faust's soul to another dimension. For
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millennia, Faust's disembodied spirit endured
imprisonment, sustained only by its hatred and
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hunger for lost magic. In the 1920s, an occultist
named Dekan Drake uncovered records of Faust's
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confinement and sought to release him, believing
he would be rewarded with power. When Drake opened
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the dimensional gate, Faust devoured his soul and
possessed his body. Though restored to life,
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Faust's magic was greatly reduced, forcing him to
rely on familiars, grimoires, and packs with
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demons to channel power. Determined to reclaim
his former strength, he spent decades hunting
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cursed relics and manipulating occult
societies. Over time, he fathered two children,
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Sebastian and Fauna, both born with traces of his
arcane lineage. In his relentless pursuit of
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power, Faust later attempted to sacrifice
Sebastian's soul to the demon Nibiros, but the
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ritual backfired and beowing his son with magical
abilities of his own. Faust sought to regain his
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lost abilities by summoning and controlling the
demons three. Abnegazar, Wrath, and Gast,
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ancient reality-warping entities imprisoned
beneath the earth. To gather the relics that bound
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them, the red jar of Calythos, green bellow Uthul,
and silver wheel of Nyarlath, he magically
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enslaved the Justice League to retrieve them.
Once freed, the demons turned on Faust, and
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Aquaman destroyed the spell's control circle,
ending the attempt and sending Faust to prison.
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Over time, Faust's reliance on infernal power
deepened. He repeatedly sold and repurchased his
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soul, each deal eroding his power further. In
desperation, he attempted to deceive Miron,
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ruler of Hell, by offering an innocent girl's soul
instead of his own. Miron sought through the trick
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and condemned him to a dimension reserved for
magicians who abused the laws of magic. After
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centuries of torment, Faust escaped back to
earth, his sanity and power both unstable. He
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returned to prominence as an enemy of the Justice
League and as an ally of various villainous
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factions, including the Injustice Gang and the
Seeker Society of Supervillains, serving as
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their arcane specialist. During this period, his
strained relationship with his son Sebastian
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escalated. When Sebastian joined the outsiders,
Faust sent demonic agents to capture him, and in
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the ensuing conflict, he recovered two of the
demon 3's relics, but Halo and Looker destroyed
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them before he could harness their power. You can
learn more about the outsiders in their duel
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against X-Force. Faust's ambitions reached
their peak in a ritual known as the Black Baptism.
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He assembled infernal covens across the globe to
siphon the life-horse of Earth's magicians into a
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single rite that would reset all magic under his
control. Demon assassins abducted mystics
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including Zatana and Deadman to power the
ceremony. The Justice League, aided by Blue Devil
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and Sebastian Faust, disrupted the ritual. At its
height, Felix attempted to absorb the captured
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souls, but Sebastian severed the conduit,
collapsing the spell. The backlash stripped
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Faust of his stolen power and scattered his
followers, forcing him back into hiding. Years
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later, Faust resurfaced posing as Dr. Fates,
attempting to deceive a long-aided man into
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trading his soul to Niran in exchange for
resurrecting his wife. Ralph Dibney saw through
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the ruse and reversed the trap, binding both Niran
and Faust inside the Tower of Fates. Faust
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eventually escaped, but his reputation amongst
occult circles fell even lower. You can learn more
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about elongated man in Our Elongated Man vs Medusa
Duel episode. Following his escape, he allied
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with Professor Ivo, Solomon Grundy, and Dr.
Impossible, posing as Deadman to trick Red
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Tornado into inhabiting a human body, while
stealing the android's original shell for
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experimentation. Faust later joined Talia El
Ghul and Cheetah in an attempt to recruit Black
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Alice into the Seeker Society of Supervillains.
When she refused, she turned his own power against
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him, using it to resurrect her mother. During
Black Adam's quest to revive his wife Isis, Faust
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interfered again, replacing Isis' bones with
those of Ralph Dibney to sabotage the
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resurrection spell. He later revived the real
Isis himself and held her captive until she broke
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free. You can learn more about Black Adam in his
duel against Apocalypse. Faust remained aligned
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with the Seeker Society assisting in the creation
of the android known as Genocide by collecting the
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mystical elements needed for her construction.
After the Flashpoint reset, Faust's history was
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rewritten. He was reimagined as the son of Majika,
one of Earth's first sorcerers and an heir to a long
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lineage of dark magicians. In the 1500s, he allied
with Vandal Savage and trained an apprentice
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named Aurora, pursuing immortality through
forbidden magic. During this period, he
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encountered time-traveling heroes Robin and
Superboy, who disrupted one of his rituals and
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forced him to retreat. In the modern era, Faust
became obsessed with finding the books of magic, a
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compendium set to contain all arcane knowledge.
To acquire the secrets of the damned sorcerer Nick
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Necro, Faust sold his soul to a demon trading his
mortality for Necro's power. The pact granted him
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vast new abilities but left his body pale and
corpse-like. Together with Nick Necro and Dr.
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Mist, he sought to seize the books of magic from the
Justice League Dark. Their scheme was undone by
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John Constantine and Faust was captured by Argus
and confined within their Black Room facility.
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You can learn more about the Justice League Dark
and John Constantine and their respective duels
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against the Midnight Suns and Brother Voodoo.
During the crime syndicate's invasion, Faust was
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conscripted alongside Necro to construct a
magical weapon called the Thaumaton, designed to
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harness and destroy divine energy. Working
beside Enchantress, Sargon the Sorcerer, Blue
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Devil, and Zatana, Faust helped power the device
until the Justice League Dark sabotaged it in a
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battle at Nanda Parbat, leaving him powerless
once more. Faust later reappeared among the
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Occult Underworld when industrialist Henry
Bendix attempted to hire sorcerers to kill
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Midnighter and Apollo. He declined the offer,
unwilling to serve others' agendas. His powers
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gradually returned and his ghastly form faded.
The extra-dimensional entities known as the
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Otherkind began consuming magical beings, Faust
was among their victims. Bound nearly mindless by
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Zatana and Wonder Woman, he regained just enough
awareness to reveal a clue to the Sorcerer
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Mordor's location, reverie trading again into
obscurity. That's Faust's backstory so far.
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Powers-wise, Felix Faust is a master sorcerer
with expertise in soul magic, necromancy, and
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infernal packs. His abilities include
spellcasting, energy projection, elemental
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manipulation, illusion, telepathy,
teleportation, and summoning entities such as
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the Demon's Three. He can bind, transfer, or
resurrect souls, create magical constructs, and
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scry across great distances. Faust's power is
largely drawn from external sources, like
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familiars, relics, grimoires, or demonic
patrons, due to the degradation of his natural
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magic reserves. He is vulnerable to pure divine
magic and cannot safely channel it without a
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medium. Though physically frail, he compensates
with defensive wards, decoys, escape spells, and
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other occult resources. That's Felix Faust. What
a coward. Uh, it fucking works, kinda. Like Baron
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Mordo, he doesn't have the greatest history of
success. That's the problem with villains and
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their backstories. It just turns into a long
string of failures over time because the hero
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always wins. Pfft, lame. But villains should not
be discounted, or at least Baron Mordo shouldn't
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be. And especially Felix Faust. Mike Podcast
Network presents Console Combat, where video
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game legends brawl every Monday. Dynamic Duel,
where comic book titans smash every Tuesday. Max
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Destruction, where TV and action heroes battle
every Wednesday. And Cendro World, where anime
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champions clash every Thursday. Join us as we
speculate on the matches and armed with the power
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of mathematical simulations discover who will
emerge victorious. Visit dynamicpodcast.com,
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where we settle the debate and settle the score.
But now that we've got their histories and
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abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how
one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The
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winner is determined by simulations, not this
speculation. But it's fun to imagine how this
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fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of
our speculation? Well, I should say there are no
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rules. Other than the characters have no prior
knowledge of the other going into the fight. All
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they are aware of starting out is that the other
character is a threat that needs to be eliminated.
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For the speculation, the contestants will begin
approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript
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environment that will have no bearing on the match
itself, as no environmental statistics are
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considered in my simulations. The contestants
must earn victory on their own merit. Alright
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then, let's get into it. Felix Faust and Baron
Mordo meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? You
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always go first, so I'm going to go first this time.
Baron Mordo is going to start off by pulling out
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this dagger from his cloak, and he drags it across
the palm of his hand, drawing blood, and that's
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going to summon this giant tentacle that erupts
from the ground beneath him. It's going to be like
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20 yards long, and it just smacks the shit out of
Felix Faust, sending him flying across the floor
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and breaking all of his ribs. Alright, well if you
have a dagger, I'm going to say Felix Faust at least
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has a small grimoire that floats in his hand. So as
that tentacle is coming out of the ground, Faust's
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book is going to flip to a specific page that he's
going to read from, and it's going to ignite that
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tentacle on fire and cause it to screech in pain and
then just return back to the ground. And once it
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does that, Faust flips to another page, and
recites a spell that causes Baron Mordo's dagger
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to melt and it just slips out of his grasp into a
puddle on the ground. Okay, so the dagger becomes a
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puddle. We'll say like the puddle's the size of a
manhole cover, and Mordo casts a spell on it, and
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out of this puddle leaps this silver skeleton
who's holding a sword, like a cutlass, and then
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like five more skeletons pop out of this puddle,
and all six of them charge at Felix Faust and just
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stab his ass repeatedly. Okay, but Faust, he's
going to counter with a spell on his own shadow
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that's going to cause it to duplicate, and from the
shadows emerge these dark like magic Faust clones
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that are all going to blast the silver skeletons
with these eldritch fireballs, and that's going
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to make those bones scatter all over the
environment. Okay, but Mordo is going to compress
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all of these shadow clones into a shadow ball of
like dark energy, and it's going to continue to
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press until it becomes like this magical
singularity, like a black hole that pulls Faust
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into it and sends them to like this dark dimension
of pain and spikes, like an iron maiden dimension
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where he's pierced for the rest of eternity.
Actually, Faust divined from the scattered
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silver skeleton bones that Mordo was going to
attempt to put him into a dark dimension. So he was
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prepared. He just turned invisible and from his
cloak, he pulled out this small doll that grew in
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size and that got sucked into the dark dimension
instead. And each time that doll gets pierced,
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it's actually Mordo that feels the pain because
it's like a voodoo doll. Okay, well, once Mordo
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starts feeling the spikes from this voodoo doll,
he's going to pull out of his cloak a tarot card and
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it's basically the same thing as like a magic Uno
reverse card. So instead of Mordo feeling pain
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from getting pierced, it's Faust because the
voodoo doll now represents Faust and Faust is
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getting poked and it causes him to drop out of his
invisibility. Shit. Okay. Well, once Faust
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starts to feel the piercings of his flesh, he
telekinetically positions the doll within the
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spike dimension so that it's pierced in a specific
way, like a stigmata combined with his chakra
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points. And that's actually going to amplify his
power. So with these glowing lines connecting
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these pierced points on his body, this third eye is
going to appear glowing on his forehead. And from
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it, he shoots this massive sized beam of magic
energy straight at Mordo. And this can't be Uno
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reversed, by the way, because the card gets
destroyed. Well, wouldn't destroying an Uno
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reverse card just destroy yourself? No, because
it's like a draw for wild type of counter magic
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energy. Shit. Okay. So the card gets destroyed.
Mordo gets knocked down from the blast, but he
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manages to quickly throw up a magic shield. That's
like in the shape of this mouth, like a fanged mouth
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that feeds on Faust's third eye energy. It's going
to absorb it and feed it back to Mordo. And this
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absorption is going to drain Faust. It's going to
turn him into like this desiccated corpse. And
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like his soul just gets sucked right out of his
third eye. And then he falls to the ground, just
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dead. And Mordo is like glowing with all this red
evil energy that was fed to him. Well, that's funny
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that you think Faust needs his soul. So Faust's
body falls to the ground and splatters,
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basically. And it's going to get absorbed into the
earth. But suddenly from beneath Mordo,
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thousands of these tiny human veins and arteries
quickly spurt from the ground and cover him in like
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a net. And that's going to leech into a skin and that
glowing red energy suddenly turns black as
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Mordo's magically poisoned. And slowly his
facial features are going to turn into that of
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Felix Faust, who is taking over Mordo's body. And
since he's the last one standing, he wins the duel.
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Well, I think Baron Mordo would realize that he's
being magically poisoned by these veins and
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arteries from the ground. So he's going to drink a
potion that he pulls from his cloak and it's going
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to cure him of his magic poison. And he just pukes up
Faust, who's just this like gross pile of biomass
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on the ground. And therefore Mordo wins. No, but
this biomass is going to grow Faust's head and like
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a semblance of a human body, like like the creature
from the thing. OK. And from that creature's body
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emerges a bell, wheel and a jar, which are going to
summon the demons three. And under Faust's will,
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they're going to reshape reality so that Baron
Mordo's mind like inverts itself, revealing his
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darkest secrets and fears. And he's going to live
out eternity tormented by his own nightmares. So
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Faust wins. That's that's some dark shit, kind of
like a nightmare that Felix Faust wakes up from
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because this whole battle was just a hypnotic
illusion that Felix Faust was experiencing while
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in reality he's bleeding out from being
sacrificed by Baron Mordo to Dormammu. Really,
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you're going to pull the whole it was all a dream.
Yep. Baron Mordo sacrificed Felix Faust to
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Dormammu. And that's what really happened. I
guess we can leave it there. Either that happens or
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we don't take the lazy way out and Felix Faust
actually traps Baron Mordo and his own
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nightmarish hell. Let's leave the match there and
put the stats run the simulations and come back
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with a winner. A G9K hit it. Inputting data,
running calculations, processing results,
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simulations complete. All right. I mentioned
earlier that these characters had similar
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backstories and it's not really any surprise they
had very similar stats. They're basically the
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same character, like speed, versatility,
invasiveness, durability, perception,
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intellect, strength, range, damage, their
feats, their stats were all exactly the same. They
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differed in one category, however, and that was
fighting skill. Surprisingly, Felix Faust is one
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of the weakest fighters in DC, whereas Baron Mordo
does not really fight, but it is established
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canon. And this is reflected on Marvel's official
power grid stats for him that he has some fight
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training from Tibetan monks. Considering that,
Jonathan, tell me who you think is winning this
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match. It's of course going to be close. I can only
pray for a statistical miracle, essentially. I
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will say that Instagram thinks that Felix Faust is
going to win. 60% of them voted in his favor in our
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Instagram poll. Well, I think that's just a bunch
of DC fans on Instagram jumping on the bandwagon
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because DC has won a few recently. They're going to
learn today. They might not going to lie. Well,
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let's find out. HG9K, the results, please. Hey,
you are, sir. All right. The winner between Felix
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Faust and Baron Mordo is Baron motherfucking
Mordo. Yeah. Congratulations. You're going to
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stay married. Oh, I can't wait to show my wife this
episode. She'll finally respect you again. Can I
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just say how stupid it is that it came down to the
fighting stat? Well, I mean, if they're going tit
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for tat through all their thousand battles, at
some point things might turn physical because
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they've exhausted everything else. And I don't
mean in that way. I mean, like a physical fight. And
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if it comes down to that, yeah, Baron Mordo is going
to take it. But really, I don't see it coming down to
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that very often. I guess in approximately like 37
matches or so out of the thousand. Wait, what were
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the win percentages? Oh, yeah. Baron Mordo won 537
matches out of a thousand, whereas Felix Faust won
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463. So it was 53.7 percent over 46.3 percent. OK,
so pretty close. Not surprised. Not close enough.
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DC just can't hang with how awesome Marvel is. It's
embarrassing. You should be embarrassed for this
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loss. I hope you are along with all DC fans. Marvel
fans, go ahead and pat yourselves on the back. You
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did it. You did it this time. Yeah, this time this
time you got lucky. Yeah, Marvel fans getting
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lucky. Unlike DC fans, fucking virgins. Not that
there's anything wrong with that. H &K, help close
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us out. Spotify, Podchaser or on our website.
Don't forget to listen to the other shows in the
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Dynamite podcast network, including Max
Destruction, Senjo World and Console Combat. In
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our next episode, Continuing Spooktober, we will
be pitting the lords of the underworld against
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each other, Nieran versus Hella. That'll be a good
one. I'm looking forward to that. And the episode
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following that, which will be our Halloween duel,
which will keep a secret until our next episode.
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But that does it for this one. We want to give a big
thanks to our executive producers, John
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Staroski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcom,
Mickey Muthin-Gian, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi
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Yatyn, Austin Wieselowski, AJ Dunkerly, Nick
Obanto, Scott Camacho, Gil Camacho, Adam Spees,
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Dean Maleski, Devin Davis, Joseph Kirsting, Josh
Schleiner, Mike Williams and Paul Graves for
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helping make this podcast possible. We'll talk to
you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers.
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Honestly, I tried to bring that Uno draw four wild
card energy into daily life.