WildCATs vs Inhumans


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• 0:00:00 - Introduction
• 0:04:02 - No-Prize Time
• 0:07:42 - Ryan Reynolds’ Deadpool joins Avengers: Doomsday
• 0:09:43 - Question of the Week
• 0:10:24 - WildCATs vs Inhumans intro
• 0:14:25 - WildCATs history and roster
• 0:26:05 - Inhumans history and roster
• 0:37:24 - Fight speculation
• 0:51:39 - Duel results
• 0:55:59 - Sign off
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I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And if I sound like ass, it's because I am sick. Yeah Jonathan is sick, he's always sick, no one's surprised.
That's not fair, I feel like I haven't been sick in a long time. You better get un-sick because this is a big episode, in this matchup we're going to find out who would win in a fight between the teams of the Wildcats and the Inhumans. Now I don't know much about the Wildcats, but I know much about the Inhumans. And they are one of the coolest, I think most overlooked teams in all of Marvel and stupid Wildcats are going down.
Yeah, to be fair, I don't know much about the Wildcats either. This is the first time we're doing a dual episode in the history of our 10 years where I have really no reference for these characters because when I first started reading comics, the Wildcats team were published by Image until the whole Wildstorm universe was acquired by DC Comics. Are they Image or Wildstorm? Well, Wildstorm was an imprint of Image. So they started out in Image, they went to Wildstorm, and now they went to DC. No, they've always been Wildstorm.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about then. Are they DC or not? This is a DC vs Marvel podcast, clear this up for me. Yes, they are now DC. Okay, thank you, that's all I needed to know. But also, I don't fucking care because I may as well have not even heard of this team when they get their asses kicked later on this episode.
Before we get into that matchup, we're going to break down the latest comic book movie news that came out this past week, which there was just one news item and that is it has been confirmed by The Hollywood Reporter that Deadpool is going to be in Avengers Doomsday. As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Guys, our artificially intelligent dual simulator, AJ9K, has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up.
Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast. Be sure to tune in to the other shows and the Dynamite Podcast Network this week, including the console combat podcast, where hosts John and Dean simulate battles between popular video game characters. In yesterday's episode, the two determined who would win between Colonel Volgen from Metal Gear and Kessler from Infamous. Over on the Max Destruction podcast, hosts Scotty and Gilly pay your favorite action heroes from film and television against each other. They're taking a hiatus during the month of August, so make sure to get caught up on their latest episodes. And on the Send Joe World podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. In his next episode, Zach's going to reveal who would win between a kudosai from Demon King Daimo and Amos Voldigoad from Misfit of Demon Academy.
Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award that Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award that we post on Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week.
Last week, we asked you guys, what is your favorite supporting cast in a Marvel or DC ensemble television series and why? And we got two answers for this because it was a horrible question. I blame Jonathan. He's the one that came up with the question.
What kind of question was this? Nobody wants to answer about supporting cast in superhero television series. I mean, I do. Well, you and two others, apparently. Let's go to and get into our honorable mention before revealing our no prize winner. Our honorable mention goes to Lorenzo Valdez, who said,
my favorite supporting cast from a Marvel or DC show is the cast of Smallville. Now, that cast changed a lot over the course of 10 seasons. But if we're going to specify, I would say the season two and season three cast. Now, I'd give this answer just because of Lana, but also, of course, we've got Lex, Pete, Chloe, Lionel, Martha and Jonathan. Clona, forever and always. Bye bye.
Now, Jonathan, I got to ask you, Kristen Crook, as Lana Link, overrated or underrated? I don't know. Maybe somewhere in the middle. I would say that Erica Durant's as lowest lane was better. And I think it's kind of evident how she became the fan favorite as the series progressed. But I will agree that the ensemble that Smallville had as a series throughout its entire run was really good. And particularly the early seasons, I was absolutely hooked on. Like I went through high school the same time that Clark did during that series. And after high school, I kind of fell off with the show. But I'll always have fond memories of Smallville and all of its cast members. I remember liking Chloe more than Lana had a little bit of crush on Chloe when I was a teen. And hopefully the actress Alison Mack is out of prison now.
That whole cult thing was really awkward. I think for all Smallville fans. But a great answer, Lorenzo. The winner of this week's snow prize, though, is Alex Albro. Who said?
Hey, guys, I think the best supporting cast is definitely Ms. Marvel. You have Nakia, who walks through life with Kamala and just has a lot of shared experience and Bruno is kind of the respectful shy love interest and supports them culturally in all that they're doing and in their difficulties in school and you feel real stakes when the convenience store blows up and you're worried about them. Not to mention her family, her parents and her brother. You know, they add so much to the story and the culture and you get excited to see them and other things like Daredevil just as much as you do the main character. So yeah, it's Ms. Marvel for me. Thanks, guys.
Yeah, I agree. I didn't really consider my own personal answer to this question when we first asked it. But I have to say that this would probably be my answer, too. In the comic books, Kamala Khan's family is a huge part of her story. And the show was no exception. There was such a good cast of characters, they showed up again in the Marvel's movie.
And her dad, Yusuf also appeared in the Daredevil born again television series. There's a reason they keep popping up. It's because they're such rich characters. Honestly, her family kind of made that show. So it made me really like the show because I'm not sure I would have otherwise.
The family was fun, but it also felt real. Right. Right. They were funny. They provided great cultural insight. They really gave Kamala a hard time as she's struggling to be this superhero.
Good times. If you guys haven't seen the Ms. Marvel television show, I definitely recommend it. And then go listen to our review of it. But congrats to Alex for winning this week's No Prize. If you, the listener, want a shot at winning Giro No Prize, stay tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, on to the news. All right, this past week, it was revealed by the Hollywood reporter.
They have like a sub newsbeat that focuses on superhero stuff called heat vision. They produced a newsletter that confirmed that Deadpool will be appearing in Avengers Doomsday, and this was partially supported by their sources, as well as Ryan Reynolds own Instagram post, where he posted an image of the Avengers logo that has a red anarchy symbol pasted over it. So this is exciting news. However, the sources don't expect that Deadpool will be joining the Avengers, more like he'll have a minor role within that film, which makes you wonder, like Ryan Reynolds is a big name. Why wasn't he included in the initial cast reveal?
With the chairs? That's a great question. It's most likely because the character is a late addition to the script. Does that bother you?
A little bit. I like these scripts to be finalized before they even begin production. Otherwise, I think they kind of film themselves into a hole as it were. And then you have to deal with reshoots and all that stuff. But the Marvel machine is always chugging along.
And sometimes they have to make quick decisions on the fly. I think adding Ryan Reynolds is kind of like an insurance policy, ensuring that people who are fans of the Deadpool franchise will come see Avengers Doomsday because Deadpool and Wolverine earned a billion dollars at the box office. That franchise makes money.
And in a climate where movies are making that much money anymore in theaters, you want to ensure that people are getting their butts in those seats. I'm really excited by this news. I think Ryan Reynolds is a marketing genius and him combined with the return of Robert Jenny, Jr., whose creative instincts, I think, are largely responsible for the success of the MCU. Those two combined, I think, will do really well for Avengers Doomsday. Yeah, hopefully. I don't know how involved Ryan Reynolds will be in the marketing of Avengers Doomsday. I think it will largely depend on the size of his role within the film.
But that brings us to our question of the week. What do you think Deadpool's involvement in the Avengers Doomsday story will be? Do you think he'll have his own arc? Do you think it'll be just a glorified cameo? Will he show up and say, this isn't where I parked my car and then exit frame? Let us know how you think it'll go down. Record your answer at dynamicdool.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a dynamic dual no prize that will post to Instagram.
Be sure to answer before August 30th. But that does it for all the news for this episode. So let's go ahead and move into our main event where we find out who would win in a fight between the teams of the Wildcats and the Inhumans.
All right. Wildcats versus Inhumans. Why did we put these teams against each other?
Well, because our executive producers wanted us to. And also it's not a bad option. These are both really powerful teams. Yeah, plus both teams have ancient ties to an alien race that has been trying to influence Earth. So there's some thematic connections here as well.
Right. The Inhumans have ties to the Kree aliens who experimented on ancient man in an attempt to turn them into warriors for their interstellar conquests. The Inhumans are descendants of those experiments. And a majority of the Wildcats characters are actually descendants or hybrids of an ancient race known as the caribam. Caribam from the planet Kara.
Sounds like a pretty interesting story. Do you know who created the Wildcats? Was it Jim Lee? Yeah, I believe it was Jim Lee. He was one of the founders of Image and was like the main guy who oversaw Wildstorm. That's how he got the job as the publisher of DC Comics. Yeah, I like the look of the team.
Jim Lee is a great artist. I like the power set variety. Both of these teams have a good mix of different kinds of powers.
And I think our speculation is going to be a lot of fun just seeing how these different abilities clash against each other. Yeah, the Wildcats definitely suffer from sort of that 90s extremism where they're sort of like overly violent and all trying to be like Wolverine. But they are pretty damn cool. They were really popular in the 90s, so much so that they even had their own animated series, which will be much more finely remembered than the Inhumans show.
You're not wrong. Where did the Wildcat series air? CBS.
Interesting. Was it a kids cartoon? Yeah, it was like a kids Saturday morning show.
I had to know how that got past us as 90s kids. Yeah, we didn't really watch it. We were more Fox and WB kids. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes Nickelodeon too. One of these days, the Inhumans will get a television series worthy of their stories in the comics. But to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient dual simulator, Alfred Jarvis, 9000, H89K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our dual matchups.
Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the two teams is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations between every character on each team using their statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from which the DC characters statistics are extrapolated.
Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 49,000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character on both teams. The team with the higher average win rate is declared the victor as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither team should win 100% of the matches.
The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman. So the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner.
Thanks, AJ9K. Before we run the simulations, though, we like to break down each team's histories and rosters before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the thousands of simulations would play out beat for beat. And it's my turn to go first on the DC end.
So let me tell you all about the Wildcats. No, long ago, Earth became a hidden battleground in a war between two alien races, the immortal noble caribam and the parasitic malevolent daemonites. After a disastrous space battle brought both species crashing to Earth, many caribam assimilated into human society while the daemonites sought to dominate it from the shadows.
Millenia later, a caribam noble named Jacob Marlowe, known in covert circles as Lord Amp, recognized the reemerging daemonite threat resurfacing and assembled a team of enhanced individuals to oppose it. He named the group the Wild Covert Action Teams, or Wildcats. The original lineup included Spartan, a synthzoid with enhanced strength and tactical prowess, Zealot, a deadly coat of warrior and centuries old caribam, Grifter, a gunslinger and former Black Ops agent with psionic potential, Maul, a caribam human hybrid titanthrope who could increase his size at the cost of his intellect, warblade, a martial artist whose hands could morph into blades, and voodoo, a young woman able to perceive and exercise daemonites from human hosts. The team was empowered and guided by Void, a mysterious woman who could teleport in sense dimensional rifts. Operating out of a nondescript skyscraper in New York, the Wildcats conducted covert missions to stop daemonite infiltration and protect humanity from the larger caribam-daemonite conflict.
Early enemies included the daemonite warlord, Hellspawn, who had aligned with corrupt elements of the US government and his lieutenant, Hightower. As the team exposed deeper conspiracies, they stumbled upon an ancient caribam starship buried on earth. While investigating it, the ship launched them into space and delivered them to Kara, the caribam homeworld.
On Kara, the team discovered that the supposed utopia was built upon the enslavement of the daemonites and a rigid caste system that persecuted hybrids. Disillusioned, voodoo left the team. Marlowe, likewise shaken, stepped away from leadership. Spartan, grifter, maul, and zealot returned to earth, where a new Wildcats unit had been assembled in their absence under the Halo Corporation.
Marlowe's front company had quartered in a secure Manhattan Tower. This new team, led by Savant and the caribam warlord, Mr. Majestic, whose powers rivaled those of Superman, included Max Cash, Grifter's brother, codenamed Condition Red, the psychic cyborg Lady Tron, and the enigmatic tactician, Tao. With Halo's resources, the Wildcats shifted to targeting organized crime and rogue metahumans, using a sophisticated virtual prison system to contain their enemies. Tao's manipulations, however, instigated a massive gang war. The original Wildcats returned to assist, but Tao's betrayal culminated in an explosion at Clark's Bar, a neutral hub for superhumans, also known as post-human.
The event fractured alliances and destabilized the post-human community. Tao faked his death by substituting a shapeshifter in his place, escaping capture. Meanwhile, Marlowe underwent a transformation, merging Void's essence into his synthesoid body, renaming himself Jack Marlowe. He took control of Halo and shifted its mission from defense to societal reform.
From Halo's high tech headquarters in Los Angeles, the new Wildcats released groundbreaking technologies like self-recharging batteries, clean vehicles, and anti-surveillance devices that destabilized global power structures. Marlowe employed Grifter as his personal enforcer, alongside agent Wax of the National Park Service and a reprogrammed Lady Tron. Halo accountant Edwin Dolby joined the field team as Grifter's trainee, learning combat and espionage in the field. The Wildcats confronted cyber assassins, corrupt government agencies, and rogue Cota operative.
Zellet, thought dead, was rescued by Grifter's strike team from a hidden mountain monastery. Internal conflicts simmered when war, one of Marlowe's advisors, attempted to ease Halo's extra-dimensional energy for himself. Marlowe stopped him, ensuring Halo's continued dominance as a force for change. During the World Storm era, after DC acquired the Wildstorm characters, the Wildcats regrouped to face a reemergent Daemonite threat as Hellspawn's allied with Kaizen Gamora. Marlowe gathered Zellet, Grifter, Voodoo, Savant, Lady Tron, and Mr. Majestic, and their headquarters became a Halo-powered orbital station.
Warblade operated undercover, and Marlowe remained in retirement. Shortly after a global catastrophe struck, an event known as World's End. The moon shattered, Earth's magnetic field destabilized, and civilization collapsed. The Halo building in Los Angeles survived, however, as its batteries kept lights and hope alive. With Void's power gone from Spartan, now called Hadrian, the team focused on humanitarian relief. They rescued survivors, fended off scavengers, and turned Halo into a safe haven. Majestic established a breakaway caribbean enclave in Hawaii and began raiding Halo's supplies. Tensions escalated, but eased after an uneasy truce allowed survivors to migrate to Majestic's colony.
New tensions emerged when the Wildcats learned Majestic was harvesting DNA from cactives, including Savant, to create a genetically superior caribbean race. Nemesis, a sword-wielding caribbean warrior, sacrificed herself to destroy the facility. At the same time, Lord Defile, a daemonite warlord, broke the peace and led in an assault on Halo. The team opened a gateway to other space, sacrificing their building and themselves to eliminate both Defile and Majestic's threat. Surviving members regrouped with John Lynch of Team 7 to oppose Tau once more. Now wielding cosmic power stolen from Void and Providence, Tau sought Godhood.
Their efforts failed until a final confrontation on a remote island where Max Faraday, holder of the Creation equation, had gone into hiding. Tau reached the equation and altered reality, but Lady Tron had memorized the formula and helped the heroes regain control. In a surreal psychological realm, Grifter confronted Tau's inner Void, his inability to feel connection or love.
The confrontation weakened Tau, who was then shot and killed by Grifter. Faraday entrusted the heroes with new uniforms and tasked them with rebuilding the world. In DC's post-Flashpoint continuity, the Wildcats were reimagined as a secret strike force operated by the Halo Corporation to battle global corruption. The team's new focus was to dismantle clandestine organizations threatening Earth stability, particularly the mysterious Leviathan. Grifter, masquerading as his dead brother Max Cash, infiltrated Leviathan to steal classified intelligence. Operating once again from the Halo building in Los Angeles, the team composed of Grifter, Zella, Tavudu, and a newly upgraded Lady Tron, targeted Leviathan's assets and clashed with other global players, including the Corps of Owls and secret divisions within Wayne Enterprises.
You can of course learn more about the Corps of Owls in our Talon versus Niko Minoru duel. Grifter's infiltration led to confrontations with both Batman and Superman, who viewed the Wildcats methods as reckless and destabilizing. Despite opposition, the team succeeded in extracting critical data and neutralizing a Leviathan strike team sent to eliminate them. After dismantling one of Leviathan's black sites in Egypt, the Wildcats traced a metahuman trafficking gang to Eastern Europe, where they discovered Daemonite genetic experiments being funded by remnants of Gamora's elite. Halo launched a covert rescue operation that liberated several hybrid children, prompting Zella to re-establish her coda contacts in the Balkans for sanctuary. Meanwhile, Grifter continued posing as Max Cash to infiltrate a rogue Leviathan cell embedded within Spiral, clashing with agents loyal to both checkmate and trust. During a raid in Gotham, Lady Tron engaged a nanai augmented assassin dispatched by the Corps of Owls, confirming rumors of their expanded influence.
Following these developments, the Wildcats relocated their operations to a fortified Halo facility beneath the Pacific Ocean, where they began investigating dimensional anomalies linked to the return of Void's energy signatures, suggesting a resurgence of the energy once believed lost. Now for my seven person roster, I went with the original team that was also featured in the animated series, specifically Spartan, Warblade, Void, Voodoo, Maul, Grifter, and Zealot, which I also think presents a good balance against the inhumans. To go into a bit of detail on each character once again, Spartan, the caribam android leader of the team and essentially the Superman of the group, has enhanced strength, durability and senses, as well as flight and bioplasma energy emission, among other android skills like technopathy and cloaking fields.
Zealot, a centuries old blade wielding Kota warrior, has enhanced caribam physiology that grants superhuman strength, durability, senses and a healing factor. She's like Wolverine. Voodoo is a caribam daemonite human hybrid with enhanced physicals, particularly when she shapeshifts into a demonic daemonite form, though she also has psychic level perception known as Sight.
The ability to freeze time for short periods and she's a practitioner of voodoo magic who can raise zombies. Maul, a member of a caribam subspecies known as a Titanthrope, is a Nobel Prize winning biochemist who can grow exponentially in size and strength, though at the cost of his intelligence. Warblade, a caribam subspecies hybrid known as a Shaper, can convert his body into a metallic substance that he can stretch and shape at will, often into bladed weapons.
A non-caribam related member of my team is Void, a powerful manipulator of space time with abilities like teleportation, precognition, telekinesis, time travel and quantum energy emission. And finally, Grifter, probably the most popular member of the team, is a sharpshooting tactician, martial artist and demolitions expert whose exposure to modified alien DNA known as Gen Factor grants him telepathy, telekinesis and a healing factor. And that's the Wildcats.
As you're going through their backstory, I thought of something I hadn't thought before, is the name of Wildstorm, a portmanteau of the Wildcats and Stormwatch? Probably? Cool. Thank you for that insight. That's a pretty interesting story, at least the first arc, as with any long running team, the first arc is usually the best. And then because writers got to keep things going, they kind of lose their original focus. But I like the idea of how they started out very similarly to the Inhumans, where you have warring alien races fighting and involving humanity and having superpowered beings stem from that. Great pairing. The executive producers probably already knew of this thematic tie-in. That's why it's great to have multiple minds pulled together in the formation of these duels. Absolutely. Never would have thought of this match.
But I'm really glad that we're doing it. Well, let me get into the Inhumans backstory. The Inhumans are descendants of a group of ancient humans genetically experimented on by the alien race known as the Kree. Tens of thousands of years ago, the Kree spliced their own DNA into primitive man, hoping to create a superpowered race that could serve as soldiers in their interstellar wars.
Eventually, the Kree abandoned the project where it was lost to time. But the altered humans, now Inhumans, remained. Carrying with them a dormant potential through their Kree modified DNA. Generations later, these early Inhumans discovered a strange extraterrestrial substance developed by the Kree called pterogen.
When refined into the pterogen mists, it would activate their latent genetic enhancements and grant them extraordinary powers, a process known as pterogenesis. Isolating themselves from the outside world and their more primitive human counterparts, the Inhumans built a hidden city called Adalan, where they formed a superpowered society governed by a monarchy obsessed with genetics. Their culture developed into a strict caste system, where the most successful results of pterogenesis rose in prominence and culminated in the royal family. However, pterogenesis was unpredictable and in rare cases had catastrophic results. Those who emerged from the mists as deformed, subhuman throwbacks were called alpha primitives. They were condemned to a lower caste forced to live underground. This harsh system cemented the Inhumans genetic hierarchy, elevating the most gifted to the royal palace while relegating the most unfortunate underground. A strict human genetics council, a 12 member body chaired by the king, regulated pterogenesis, mapped family lines and even approved marriages. In the 20th century, King Aegon, regarded as one of Adalan's greatest rulers, convinced his wife Rhinda to expose their unborn child to pterogenesis while she was pregnant, defying the genetic council. Their son, Blackaggar Boltagon, aka Blackbolt, was born with a voice so destructive that even a whisper could level a city.
He was raised in isolation to master absolute control over his ability. Young Blackbolt was betrothed to his cousin Medusa, whose hair moved with strength and precision and obeyed her will. King Aegon then secretly urged relatives to expose their infants early, producing a remarkable generation of Inhumans, including Maximus, Blackbolt's brother who was brilliant but unstable, Gorgon, whose hooves could unleash earthquakes. Triton drastically altered into an aquatic beast, Crystal, who commanded the elements, and Karnak, who never underwent any of the But heavily trained to see the flaw in any object, tactic, or system. Finally, there was Lockjaw, a massive canine who was bonded to the royal family who could teleport to nearly anywhere. You can learn more about Blackbolt, Medusa, and Crystal in their respective dual episodes against Shazam, Long-Gated Man, and Tempest. As humanity spread over the earth, the Inhuman's secret existence came under threat.
They at times clashed with frightened humans and suppressed alpha primitive revolts, but they also formed ties with Earth's heroes such as the Fantastic Four and sometimes even fought beside them. Inside Adolan, Maximus schemed to take the throne using devices, riots, and manipulation. Adolan endured kidnappings, invasions, and cycles of destruction and rebuilding.
Eventually, the world learned that this hidden race existed, and Adolan was moved off of Earth to the blue area of the moon. Blackbolt's reign faced a personal crisis when he and Medusa conceived a child. The genetics council, fearing his bloodline, seized the infant and cut off parental contact. Medusa fled to Earth with members of the family while Maximus hounded them.
When Blackbolt learned the council planned to use his son in his scheme against him, he turned on the council. He set aside the crown for a time, and the royals lived away from Adolan, returning when their people needed them. Eventually, Adolan returned to Earth, isolated in the Himalayan Mountains. The Kree later returned to claim their rediscovered subjects. Ronan the Accuser struck from orbit, enslaving the Inhumans and forcing Blackbolt to lead missions against their rival alien empires, including the Shiar. He exiled Maximus and the alpha primitives to the negative zone and revealed that the Inhumans had been designed for infiltration. Their traits meant to echo alien forms for espionage and assassination. He used them to sabotage ships and treaties and tried to force Blackbolt to assassinate the Shiar Empress.
Blackbolt challenged Ronan to an honor duel, won, and forced Ronan to withdraw. Later, back on Earth, Crystal's husband, Quicksilver, stole pterogen crystals in an attempt to regain his lost powers and help other depowered mutants. You can learn more about this in our Quicksilver vs.
Flash duel episode. The United States government seized the pterogen crystals and Blackbolt declared war, pending their return. A strike to recover them caused many human deaths and hardened the world's opinion against Adaline.
Though the crystals were finally reclaimed, Maximus seized control and Adaline suffered devastating ruin. Not long after, Blackbolt was kidnapped and replaced by an imposter from the Skrulls, a shapeshifting alien race. The royal family, aided by the Kree, rescued Blackbolt from Skrull captivity and returned home.
Seeking to escape the strife from the outside world once and for all, the Inhumans transformed Adaline into a starship powered by Blackbolt's voice and ventured into space. They fluted the Kree homeworld of Hala where they overthrew the empire that once created them. A war with the Shiar followed, during which a pterogen device called the T-bomb apparently killed Blackbolt and the rule fell to Queen Medusa. The Alpha Primitives revolted, Maximus again sought the crown, and the Kree nobles resisted, eroding Inhuman control. It was discovered that the Kree had also altered other species long ago, not just humans. These universal Inhumans, as it were, traveled to Earth's moon and united with the returned Blackbolt, stopping an attempt by the Supreme Intelligence to attack Earth and retake control of the Kree. Abandoning Hala and returning back to their home planet, the Inhuman royal family rebuilt Adaline, this time in the clouds above New York City. Soon, the mad Titan Thanos demanded that Adaline's render all Inhumans within certain ages as tribute to him. Blackbolt realized that hidden within the demand was a hunt for Thanos' secret son, who was an Inhuman descendant. The royal family evacuated Adaline, and rather than submit to Thanos, Blackbolt destroyed the city with a shout. This triggered a pterogen bomb built by Maximus that spread pterogen across the globe and awakened powers in many people across Earth with dormant Inhuman genes.
In the aftermath, Blackbolt went into exile for his actions, and Medusa rebuilt New Adaline, an independent nation open to all Inhumans. Crystal led a team aboard the royal Inhumans' transport to track the drifting pterogen cloud and protect people about to change. Unfortunately, the cloud proved lethal to mutants.
Fearing extinction, mutant leaders launched a preemptive strike against New Adaline, neutralizing most of the royal family and trapping them in a hostile dimension. After learning the full stakes of what was happening, Medusa destroyed the remaining pterogen cloud herself. She abdicated the throne and passed leadership to the Inhuman people, installing a new Inhuman democracy. She and Blackbolt then reunited and journeyed into space, seeking the origins of pterogen. Their search led to the discovery of Primogen, a mutagenic substance on which the Kree had based their creation of pterogen. Traveling back to Earth, the family then founded a new Inhuman city called Arctilan on the moon. There they were attacked by the Kree, who learned about the Inhumans' acquisition of Primogen and gave them an ultimatum. Join the Kree or die. The Kree massacred Inhumans across space. Blackbolt summoned the leaders of the universal Inhuman tribes to plan a response, but a Kree executioner named Vox ambushed the gathering, slaughtering the group. In the battle, Triton and Maximus were seemingly killed, and Blackbolt's throat was slit.
After the remaining Inhuman population was imprisoned, the royal family escaped with help from Blackbolt's faint, returning voice. They learned that Vox was not a person, but a Kree program that converted prisoners into living weapons. Given a directive to acquire Primogen and weaponize the Inhumans, Vox converted the Inhuman population and embedded within them the code to restart the Vox program should he be destroyed. With one paint whisper, Blackbolt destroyed the engines that transmitted the Vox program, ending the Kree's plan, and ending the lives of most of the Inhumans.
The few survivors gathered, with Lockjaw teleporting them home. The former royals learned that they were just a few of the last remaining Inhumans. And that's the Inhumans' history so far. For this team duel, I'm obviously going with the members of the Inhuman royal family, as they're among some of the most prominent and important members of the Inhuman race. This includes Blackbolt, the former king of Adolan who has the ability to absorb and convert electrons into a devastating energy he can unleash through his voice or channel into blasts, energy shields, or used to enhance his own physiology. Queen Medusa is next on my roster, who can scionically control every strand of her tensile hair.
Crystal, her sister, is third on my team, able to control the four elements of fire, earth, air, and water. All three of them have their own duel episodes we've done, but the rest are new. I'm including Maximus, Blackbolt's brother, who is mentally unstable, but also a powerful telepath and genius strategist and inventor. Blackbolt's cousins round out the rest of the team. There's Karnak, the unparalleled fighter who can detect the weak point of anything. Gorgon, the brute who can create seismic shockwaves by stomping his hooves.
And finally Triton, the scaly water-breathing scout with twin curved short swords. And that's my team. I wanted to go with Lockjaw, trust me, but we're going to be saving him for a later team duel episode this year.
If you're a fan of Lockjaw, you probably already know what that team is. Hey, spoiler warning! Just listening to the Inhuman's backstory again, I'm reminded of how good an Inhuman show should have been. It should have been sci-fi Game of Thrones. Yeah, we've said that multiple times on this podcast, but it remains no less true.
The television show should have been so much better. Now, if you've listened to our team duels before, you know that we like to come up with comparable rosters, finding some kind of analog between characters of both sides. And this is just to make sure that we're going into this matchup as balanced as possible. Now, our matchups consist of Spartan and Black Bolt, since they're both the powerhouse leaders of each team, Warblade and Medusa.
Yes, since they could both shape shift parts of their bodies into weapons. Void and Crystal. One being able to control Space Time, the other the elements. Voodoo versus Karnak, who both have the ability of sight, essentially. There's Maul and Gorgon, the brutes of each team. Maximus and Grifter, the telepaths, and Zealot and Triton, the weapon wielding warriors. Which I thought lined up perfectly, considering we're both going with like the base rosters for each of these teams, I would say. For sure.
But now that we've got the team's histories and rosters out of the way, let's speculate on how one of the thousands of simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not the speculation, but it's fun to imagine how a fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
Well, I should say there are no rules other than the teams have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other side is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation, the groups will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a non-descript environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The teams must earn victory on their own merit.
All right, then let's get into it. The Wildcats and the Inhumans meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm going to say Warblade starts things off for the Wildcats by extending his long metal fingers into the ground, at which point these long metal spears are going to shoot up beneath the Inhumans impaling them through their torsos.
Damn, that's how we do. Well, Gorgon sees Warblade's hands go into the ground and already suspecting something's up, he's going to quickly stomp the ground with one of his hooves and that creates a seismic shock that like breaks each of Warblade's fingers in like 17 different locations. He's like, oh, shit, my fingers. And this tremor that Gorgon creates also knocks each of the Wildcats members on their asses. OK, well, while on the ground, Grifter, he's just going to mag dump his dual pistols while telekinetically curving the bullets so that each of the Inhumans gets two in the chest and one in the head.
John Wick style. Except that black bolt throws up an energy shield that's going to protect his family from all sunsets and it also weakens a dust storm that affects the entire area of the battlefield around the Wildcats. And it's a heavy storm that blocks their vision.
They can't see anything. But then suddenly they all start getting slapped around by a bunch of whips created by Medusa's hair, who extends her hair into the storm. And she could feel through it and just beat the shit out of them simultaneously while the Wildcats are inside. I mean, Void has a spatial sense on a planetary scale. So maybe a few Wildcats get hair whipped before Void teleports her entire team out of the dust storm behind the Inhumans, at which point Spartan is going to blast them all in the back with this sweeping plasma beam blasting across the Inhumans and frying them.
That's a good move. Okay, I forgot that you guys can teleport. Yeah, the Inhumans would probably be taken by surprise by this.
So they're all on the ground and like singed on their backs with third degree burns. Except for Maximus, because his telepathy warned him of the attack because he could detect the Wildcats' minds were behind them. So they gave him enough time to react and duck beneath the plasma beam. And while he's crouched down, he pulls out a sonic rifle he has that he's fueled with the same energy as Black Bolt's voice. What?
Like whispers of Black Bolt, right? And he just lets Spartan have it. He fires the rifle and punches a big basketball sized hole right through Spartan's torso and he drops to the floor. He's an android, right? Yeah, yeah, and actually that's not going to take Spartan out. But while his android body is on the ground repairing itself, that's when Maul is going to Fastball Special Zealot, hurling her right at Maximus, blades first, and she straight up decapitates his ass.
No, no, no, no, no. She flies right into a force field. He had set up this negative zone barrier that was secretly activated in front of him. He set up like negative zone barriers all the time in the comic books, mostly around Adeline, but he has a personal force field too, in this case. And she crashes into it and slides down to the ground like a bird who just crashed into a window.
Dang. By this point, the Inhumans have gotten up from the ground after dealing with Spartan's attack and Crystal is going to whip up and hurl a firestorm at the Wildcats. It's just this big fiery tornado that's shooting fireballs and it burns and just scatters the Wildcats team.
Okay, but Voodoo, she's going to mind lock Crystal for an incident, causing her mind to go blank and the fire tornado is going to dissipate because of that. And with the fire gone, Warblade is going to shift his hands and feet into scissors, along with the ends of eight metallic spider legs that he grows from his back. And he leaps at Medusa, chopping up any hair that may get in his way until he's able to get close enough to her to deliver a fatal stabbing. Except I don't think he can cut her hair because it's too durable.
It has like the tensile strength of iron wires. And his blades could cut through anything. But like, traditionally, Medusa's hair can't be cut unless she wants it to be cut. But I also guess it stands to reason that something sharp enough to cut it would be able to do it. So say Warblade's cutting her hair as she's defending herself, okay?
Trying to fight him off. What Warblade doesn't know is that Medusa can still control any of her hair that's cut. What? So as he's trying to get to Medusa, he gets all tangled up in this mess of his own making. And so he's now just busy slashing and fighting at these hair strands, just flailing around.
At that point, Karnak flips in, he sees Warblade's weak point, spots his opening, and then just karate chops Warblade's spine with like the force of a cannonball that just causes Warblade's liquid metal form to explode into like liquid metal droplets everywhere. Okay, well meanwhile, thanks to Voodoo's gift of sight, she's able to see how Black Bolt is restraining himself from making vocalizations during the battle. So she uses her psychic ability to separate Black Bolt from his mental conditioning. And that's when Black Bolt looks at Gorgon, just confused, and is like, what just happened? Obliterating Gorgon.
Geez. Well, if he has forgotten his mental conditioning after he sees Gorgon just get obliterated, he's gonna turn his head and be like, holy shit! And that's gonna obliterate Zealot, who happened to be in front of him.
What? So Zealot's out of the match as well. And then Maximus, who's insane, but he's not stupid, he knows he needs to silence his brother for the sake of everybody, right? So he telepathically reminds Black Bolt of his mental conditioning to stay mute. Okay, but while Maximus is distracted telepathically communicating with his brother, Grifter, an expert thief, is going to steal Maximus' sonic rifle from him, and he's gonna use it to blow up Maximus.
Except that this gun, the sonic gun, is a weapon designed for inhuman militia, so that means it's programmed only to respond to the genetic signature of an inhuman. So Grifter tries to shoot Maximus, but instead the gun just explodes in his hands. And now Grifter's arms are gone.
And before Grifter can even process what just happened, Triton leaps by him and takes off his head with one of his curved blades. What? Wait, wait, wait. First of all, the terrigin mist is like a gas, right? Correct. Well, the gen factor that Grifter inhaled was also a gas. What if it's like the wildstorm terrigin mist, making Grifter an inhuman? No, I'm sorry. Not genetically.
Whatever. Grifter's gone, but he is a demolition guy who's like armed to the teeth with various explosive gadgets inside his trench coat. So he may be dead, but the explosion from Maximus' gun sparks an igniter on one of his grenades. And when that goes off, all of his explosives go off, killing Triton as well.
And, you know, Maximus is probably pretty injured, too, I'm sure. All right. Okay. So Triton is out. Grifter's out. While this is all happening, Karnak is fighting Maul. And Karnak is dodging Maul's attacks just with like super efficiency, striking all of his pressure points. So Maul's not even really able to land a hit on Karnak. And Karnak is going to strike a nerve in Maul's legs, which is going to drop Maul to his knees.
And then Karnak leaps up and finger strikes him right in between the eyes, which is a weak spot that makes his brain explode inside his head. So now Maul's out. Except that the last second, though, Maul's going to shrink his body down to the size of a thimble in order to dodge Karnak's attack. And at that size, he's a super genius because, you know, his size correlates with his intellect. And he's going to deduce Karnak's one weakness, which is his insides. So Maul's going to shrink down, jump into Karnak's booty.
No! Before expanding to skyscraper size and just obliterating Karnak. Did you just Thanus Karnak? You're damn right I did.
What are you, nine? Why did he go in through the butthole? Because he could. Anyway, Maul is now the size of a skyscraper, you say. But that means he's dumb as a rock. Okay?
Fair. So suddenly he starts beating the shit out of his own teammates. He smashes Spartan, you know, before he can finish repairing his android body. He just smacks Void across the horizon and he pummel's voodoo into the ground with his fists. All of this because now he's being mind controlled by Maximus.
Oh. Well, I mean, Maul is said to be fairly psychic resistant because of his decreased intellect at giant size. No, well, I mean, the reason I did this is because actually the more mindless that a subject is, the more susceptible they are to Maximus's mind control.
Like that's why Maximus is so good at controlling the alpha primitives. Really? Okay. Wait, so Spartan's finished. But we'll say that as Void is sailing across the horizon, she's going to teleport back to the battle and rescue voodoo for Maul's attack, like just in time. And with voodoo using her gift of sight to be able to recognize who's controlling Maul, that's when she transforms into her daemonite demonic form and just tears into Maximus, ripping him to shreds while he's distracted. And meanwhile, you remember how Warblade was sort of scattered everywhere by Karnax attack?
Yeah. Well, that would not kill him because eventually all of those metallic droplets would find their way back to each other, sort of like T1000. And so we'll say by this point, enough of Warblade's scattered droplets have coalesced to form a long hammer, which Maul by this point back to 10 feet tall or so picks up and proceeds to pummel crystal into the ground. Okay. So Warblade is back from being exploded and he's just a hammer now.
Right. Is he like a hammer with Warblade's face? Uh, yes, actually, specifically that. I wasn't sure if he was just like an inanimate object now.
No. But Crystal's going to handle this liquid metal guy the same way you would handle any liquid metal guy. She's going to freeze the hammer so that shatters when Maul swings it.
So Warblade's gone for good now. Maul's confused because his hammer broke on him. And at that point, Crystal fills Maul's lungs with water and he drowns.
Oh, okay. Well, Crystal, she's just going to get lasered and half at the torso at this time by one of Void's quantum beams. So she's out. And as that happened, Voodoo brought Maul back as a zombie using her Voodoo knowledge and she's going to control Maul to choke out Black Bolt. And that's going to prevent him from using his voice as he suffocates and dies.
No, because before Black Bolt suffocates, Medusa is going to take a page from Maul's playbook and destroy him from the inside. Okay, but she's not like a pervert like he is. She goes in through his ears. So her hair infiltrates Maul's skull through his ears and she just scrambles his zombie brain to mush.
All right. And with Black Bolt free, he's just going to take out both Void and Voodoo by shouting, like, you guys suck. And they're just obliterated from his voice and the Inhumans win. Wait, he obliterates both of them? Do you think they were standing like right next to each other? Because they weren't. Says who?
Me, bro. We'll say that Voodoo freezes time just before the sound waves reach her. And that's going to allow Void to set up a portal that catches all of those sonic waves and redirects them through another portal lined up to hit both Medusa and Black Bolt. So they're dead instead and the Wildcats win. Now you can't just dictate where people are on the battlefield.
I'm saying that Void and Voodoo were standing next to each other and they didn't have enough time to react to Black Bolt's shout. Wait, I can't. But you can?
Yes. I mean, Singly didn't have enough time to react also, by the way. Void literally controls space time. So she'll just go back in time if they didn't.
Void's a bum. Okay. We could go out and leave the match there. Either one of two things happens. Either Black Bolt shouts Void and Voodoo out of existence or they're able to redirect his blast and Black Bolt ends up taking himself and Medusa out. Let's go ahead and input the team stats, run the simulations and find out which of the scenarios happens when we come back with a winner. 8G9K, hit it.
Alright, that was a crazy matchup. Both of these teams have some really powerful members. There's actually a good variety among both teams. They had a lot in common. They had a lot that was not in common, but breaking it all down. The teams were actually even when it came to intelligence and versatility.
Right. The biggest discrepancy they had actually came down to durability, considering basically all of the Wildcat's characters have healing factors. Yeah, they're all Wolverine wannabes.
Like, the inhumans have an accelerated rate of healing compared to normal humans, but it's not crazy fast like Wolverines and it's not fully regenerative either. My most durable guys were Black Bolt, Gorgon and Triton. People like Medusa, Crystal, Karnak and Maximus just didn't have the same level of durability.
But the inhumans did have the advantage when it came to the category of range. Black Bolt, Crystal and Maximus and even Gorgon have tremendous range with their attacks. You know, Maximus being a psychic, Black Bolt with his shouts, Crystal with her elemental powers and Gorgon with his seismic stomps.
Yeah, when you're going up against elemental powers with like bullets and blades and stuff like that, it's not quite as effective. My strongest character on my side was Spartan, followed up by Void. And my weakest character was actually Warblade. Yeah, my strongest character obviously was Black Bolt and the weakest member of the inhuman family is actually Karnak, probably because he never underwent terror genesis. And, you know, he's really good at finding weak spots and striking to defeat them.
And he was smart, but he didn't have those like superhuman stats that his cousins and his brother have. Yeah, Karnak only won about a quarter of his matches. He won 27.9 of the total matches that he was in, which was not the lowest win rate. Actually, Warblade had the lowest at 26% even. Yeah, and Black Bolt had the highest win rate individually, winning 81.3% of all of his matches.
And that was actually the highest win rate overall, because my highest win rate was 79.9% held by Spartan. So taking all of these figures and stats into account, Joseph, who do you think came out on top in humans? They have the most powerful member.
Black Bolt had the highest win rate. They're a pretty well rounded team. I'm going to give it to the royal family.
You would. And Instagram agrees with me with 63% of our poll respondents, citing with the inhumans saying that they would defeat the Wildcats. Well, let's see if you jerks are correct. AJ9K, the results, please. Here you are, sir. The winner of the team dual matchup between Wildcats and Inhumans is the Wildcats, son of a bitch.
No. The Wildcats won 52.5% of their matches compared to the Inhumans, who only won 47.5. And honestly, I'm kind of as surprised as you are. I thought the Inhumans were going to take this. I mean, they have fucking Black Bolt.
You just start off the match by going, screw you guys, and then it would be over. But yeah, Void could, you know, just again, teleport all of the energy back at them. The Inhumans had Black Bolt, but the Wildcats had Spartan and Void and Grifter, each of whom had over a 60% win rate. My guys overall were just a little bit more powerful. Honestly, I think it really came down to the defense of stats.
Having a healing factor really helps in battle, as it turns out. I'm like horribly depressed now. I was expecting to go into this with the Inhumans win to give them some kind of victory and make up for all the disappointments that fans have encountered with them over the years. And here's just another one to add to the fucking list. Honestly, I think it's time to give up on the Inhumans.
Like they have nothing going for them. I think it's time for you to give up. You know what? You piece of shit. Jeez. But that is it for this duel, guys. AJ9K helped close this out.
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