Mirror Master vs Spot

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Hi, Welcome to the Dynamic Dual
podcast weekly show where we review superhero films

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and debate the superiority between Marvel and
DC by comparing their characters in stat based

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battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe and
I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And

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in this episode, we're going to
find out who would win in a fight

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between the Flash villain Mirror Master and
the Spider Man villain the Spot. Yeah.

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Of course, this episode is a
lead up to our team duel where

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we're gonna find out who's gonna win
between the Flash Rogues and the Brotherhood of

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Mutants. Yeah, that's supposed to
be episode three twenty five. Actually,

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this episode right now is episode three
twenty five, and I'm going to be

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going out of town this week,
so next week is actually going to be

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a review of Batman the Doom that
Came to Gotham. So the Team Duel

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actually won't be until episode three twenty
seven, two weeks from now. Sorry

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about that, guys. The schedule
got mixed up somewhere and then all of

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a sudden they had to take a
trip. It's close enough, it's close

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enough. Yeah, yeah, it'll
work. But we're gonna find out who's

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gonna win between these characters later on
this episode. Before that, we're going

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to break down the comic book movie
news to come out this past week,

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including the set photos that ever revealed, the first look at Lady Gaga as

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Harley Quinn, and the news that
Disney executive Victoria Alonzo has been fired from

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Marvel Studios. A lot of drama
this past week for both Disney and Warner

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Brothers. Yeah, with like the
rock yeah and everything. Yeah, yeah,

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like what's going on at least sabotaging
Shazam. We're not going to talk

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about that. It's not really that
newsworthy, but that was weird. As

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quick to the No Prize. No
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award that we post on Instagram and
in our email newsletter for the person that

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we feel gave the best answer to
our question of the week. Last week,

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we asked who do you think should
be the villain of James Gunn's Superman

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Legacy film and why. We've got
quite a few answers, So let's break

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down our honorable mentions before revealing this
week's No Prize winner. Our first honorable

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mention goes to Colby Henches, who
said, hey boys, Colby Henches,

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the villain for the upcoming Superman Legacy
movie should be Midnighter and Apollo. It

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sets up the Authority movie against the
classic superheroes fight before they team up to

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fight Lex Luthor, who's revealed at
the end of The Big Bad but most

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of the movie Superman versus Midnight and
Apollo. So when I first heard the

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news that The Authority was going to
be a project that would stem out of

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Superman Legacy, I automatically assumed that
Midnighter and Apollo were going to be the

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bad guys of Superman Legacy, with
the Authority sort of taking on the role

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of the Elite, which was this
team of superheroes that was introduced in I

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think it was Action Comics number seven
hundred and seventy five that just really tried

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to show Superman as this like archaic
boy Blue Scout, who was that a

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hero meant to be a part of
this modern world, And of course Superman

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kind of showed them that, hey, I could be if I wanted to.

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They made a movie about this.
I think it was called Superman Versus

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the Elite. Yeah, it was
an animated film, right right, right.

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Yeah, it would kind of kill
two birds with one stone, and

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that it would set up these characters
from the Authority and lead into their own

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film down the line, right right. The character are very dark and very

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harsh. They're great foils for a
very bright natured Superman. So I think

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it could work. The only issue
I had with it is that I would

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hate to see the Authority form before
the Justice League in this new universe.

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Yeah. I still don't know how
that's going to play out, but we'll

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see, great answer, Colby.
Our next honorable mention goes to Maggie Mattagian,

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who said, Hey, what's up, guys, It's Meggie and I

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would love to see Matallo or Parasite
on the big screen, but I don't

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think they could carry a whole movie, and they're usually connected to Luthor and

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let's skip him for a movie.
Brainiac would be cool, but I think

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he used more of a sequel or
Justice League villain, so I would go

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with Bruno Manheim so we could set
up dark Side in the future and have

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some great sci fi action. It
could also showcase Superman's kindness by having him

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show mercy to inter Gang members.
So I like inter Gang as a villain

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group for a Superman in Metropolis.
It worked really well in the cartoon I

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thought. Of course, we recently
saw Intergang in Black Adam, so I'm

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not sure if we would need to
see them against so soon in this upcoming

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project. But honestly, the sooner
we get to dark Side, the more

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like we could kind of pick up
those feelings as DC fans of what we

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lost without Zack Snyder's vision of his
universe and his plans realized. Yeah,

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you'd think that eventually they'll work their
way toward the story of dark Side and

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Apocalypse and New Genesis and all that, and starting to plant the seeds now

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I think would pay off big dividends
later in the same way that we got

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just little hintset Thanos before finally getting
to see him and his full potential in

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the MCU right exactly with like the
Infinity Stones right, great answer, Migge.

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Our final honorable mansion goes to Brandon
Estergard, who said, Hey,

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guys, I think that Manchester Black
played by Alphie Allen from Game of Thrones

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and like Suitor played by Stanley Tucci, would be an amazing duo to go

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up against the new Super Mountain,
and they would also be great reoccurring characters.

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Yeah, Alphie Ellen would not make
it terrible. Manchester Black, I

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think he definitely has that like rockstar
kind of swagger to him. And of

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course Manchester Black was the leader of
the Elite, you know who he mentioned

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earlier. What do you think of
Stanley Tucci as Lex Luthor. I think

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he's a little bit old, but
he's a fantastic actor. I know you

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could definitely nail the role, though
I think I would prefer to see someone

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younger and closer to Superman's age.
I'm gonna have to check out this Action

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Comics seven hundred and seventy five because
I hear it talked about Time and Time

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Again as one of the best single
issues Superman stories to have ever come out.

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Yeah, I remember. I think
it was like Wizard Magazine once listed

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it as their number one single issue
of all time. It was good.

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I used to own it. Actually
I thought you read it. Nope,

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well you should have. Then.
We want to give a quick shout out

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to Matt Lamb for taking the time
to visit our website and record an answer.

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But the winner of this week's no
Prize is Ken Johnson, who said,

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Hey, guys, is Ken for
the villain? I think they should

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go with Brainiac, specifically because the
reasons you guys brought up about having Superman

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b of two worlds, having Brainiac
the representation of Hubris by the Kryptonians,

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and then coming and showing Superman his
world where it could end and where his

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earthly life does. Thanks guys.
Yeah. Previously, Mickey Mathinian said that

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he would prefer that Brainiac was the
villain for a sequel or a Justice League

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film, But I have to disagree
because Brainiac is or can be so tied

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into Superman's origin story and if you're
going to reboot Superman with potentially a new

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origin. I think this is the
perfect opportunity to use Brainiac, especially since

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he's probably Superman's biggest villain that we
have yet to see in a theatrical live

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action film. Yeah, absolutely,
I agree. I think Brainiac should be

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a part of Superman's origin always.
I think that's the most interesting the character

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gets is you know way he confronts
Superman and reveals to him that he was

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partly responsible for the destruction of Krypton. And as Ken Johnson mentioned, I

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think the whole dichotomy of Superman's origin
that's going to be explored in this new

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James Gun film. I think those
themes ti in really well to Brainiac.

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Also absolutely fantastic answer, Ken Johnson, you win this week's no prize if

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you're the listener, want to shot
winning your own no Prize. Stay tuned

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til later on in this episode when
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and don't forget we will be posting
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But with that out of the way, on to the news. Okay,

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So this past week, Todd Phillips
was filming exterior shots for the Joker

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sequel Joker folliad, which revealed Lady
Gaga and her Harley Quinn costume of sorts.

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I still remember when we first were
introduced to what King Phoenix's look as

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the Joker. It was like the
day before. They were also planning some

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exterior shots, like on a train, and they wanted to get ahead of

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those potential leaks that would happen by
revealing official test screening footage of him as

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the character, and I thought that
was really cool. I'm kind of said

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they didn't do that with Harley Quinn. But these set photos are also really

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incredible. She really stands out amongst
the crowd. It looks like it's going

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to be a scene where police are
escorting the character up to a courthouse or

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something like that, but there's a
ton of people all around her and she's

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like flipping them off and smiling and
shaking her fist and stuff like that.

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But Gaga herself is definitely the standout
of the photos. She's dressed in this

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bright red, diamond quilted business jacket
with a diamond black and white blouse beneath

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that, and a black skirt with
diamond patterned stockings. She has like this

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really bright yellow hair that's just slipped
back. And most interestingly I think is

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that she kind of borrowed Joaquin's diamond
makeup around her eyes of hers are a

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little bit more sharp and they're black. It's a really interesting look. Yeah,

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it's a very unique look to the
character of Harley Quinn, one that

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we've not really seen before, but
I think is fitting within this elseworld's world

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that was set up with the first
Joker film, because you know, Joaquin's

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character the Joker doesn't really look like
any version of the character we've seen in

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the comic books either. No,
now he most closely resembles I guess Heath

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Ledger's Joker with some added makeup,
but his mannerism as the character is pretty

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different. He of course gave a
tour to force performance as the Joker,

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And just based on what I'm seeing
of Lady Gaga, I'm already like blown

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away just by still photographs of her, just like the presence that she commands

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as she's walking amongst all of these
people, and even comparing that to what

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we've seen from earlier set photos of
Lady Gaga as doctor Harley Quinzel, she's

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much more doughlike and meek in her
like just facial expressions than she is when

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she's Harley Quinn. It looks like
it's going to be an amazing transformation between

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these two characters, almost like Christopher
Reeves Clark Kenton Superman different. Oh yeah,

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definitely, I could see that,
And you'd have to imagine that her

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experience as a music performer on stage
in front of, you know, thousands

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of people lends a lot to her
confidence in these types of scenes with large

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groups of people. Well, I
know she like studied theater in school.

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I'm not the biggest Lady Gaga fan, so I don't know much about her,

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but I think I remember hearing that
she studied theater, like she wanted

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to be an actress initially, but
then she just kind of like landed on

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the music scene. And now that
she's making her way back to acting,

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she's definitely displaying everything she's capable of
doing as a performer. It's interesting that

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these exterior scenes seemed to show her
going up courthouse steps, but you know,

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she's not in a prison jumpsuit or
anything like that, so she's not

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on trial. Here. Seems more
like she's giving a deposition and providing testimony

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for the character of the Joker,
although you would think that her credibility would

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be easy to denounce on the witness
stand. Yeah, totally. I'm definitely

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curious to see where this seem takes
us. I think it'll be very interesting.

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But with Lady Gaga in the role
as Harley Quinn. That brings us

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to our question of the week.
If you could cast any musician as a

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character and a live action Marvel or
DC film, who would you cast and

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what role would they play? Not
currently existing, so no Harry Styles as

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Star Fox or anything like that.
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In other news, some drama behind the

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scenes at Marvel Studios as Disney has
fired Victoria Alonzo, who is one of

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the long time producers and executive producers
of the MCU's films. She's been there

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since the beginning, since the very
first Iron Man, and now she has

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been let go. Allegedly it's because
she produced another movie called Argentina in nineteen

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eighty five that was actually Oscar nominated, But according to the Hollywood Reporters sources,

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that was a breach of contract in
that she was not able to work

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for competing studios outside of Disney.
Yeah, let alone promote them, right,

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which she did a lot of,
and that just didn't rub Disney the

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right way. Now, Victoria Alonso
contends Disney story by saying that she actually

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had permission to work on this movie. But you know, it's a case

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of he said, she said at
this point. But there are like a

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lot of rumors going around and it's
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a smear campaign on behalf of the
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people are also saying that Victoria Alonzo, as the head of the effects in

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her role at Marvel Studios, was
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has been brought up by the VFX
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Yeah. Yeah, essentially like she's
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the bad decision making and poor publicity
surrounding Marvel's visual effects in recent films like

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Vodoc for example. Right, this
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could even be possible that Disney is
using Victoria Alonzo as a scapegoat to help

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cover the poor performance of some of
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in front of investors, showing that
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to cover like Amen of the Wasp
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that's some action because Victoria Alonso has
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hand demand. It's said that Kevin
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this termination, that he felt that
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You know, it's a hard story
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of hearsay, but it is important
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behind the scenes of Marvel Studios since
its inception, I know, like all

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of DC's executive upheaval in recent years. Finally we get some Marvel drama.

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Bad time but that doesn't for all
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ahead and get into our main event, where we find out who would win

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in a fight between the Flash villain
Mirror Master and the Spider Man villain the

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Spot. All right, Mirror Master
versus Spots again. This is in lead

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up to our upcoming team duel,
which will pit the Flash Rogues against the

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Brotherhood of Mutants, which I'm really
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in two weeks. Mirror Master being
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right right, But of course this
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Spider Man Across the Spider first film
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which the Spot is the main antagonist. Supposedly. Yes, Sony released some

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pretty kick ass concept art showing Miles
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I think it's gonna be really cool
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the Spot's power set is totally fitting
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I don't know too much about the
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the Spider Man cartoon that was around
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of the Spot was actually really damned
dorky, and I guess the character kind

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of started out that way, but
since then he's become like a cold,

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silent killer, and I'm absolutely here
for it. He went crazy for a

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while being trapped in the spotted dimension. I'll tell you all about it when

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I get into his backstory. Well, Mirrormaster is also a cold, crazy

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killer, so this is a highly
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do some dimension hopping. Both of
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interesting to see how this match goes
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Master's power set is. I know
that he like tramp you in mirrors or

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something. Yeah, you'll find out. You'll find out doorry about it.

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Okay, but let's go ahead and
turn into our sentient dual simulator. Alfred

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Jarvis s eight thousand. Je tell
our listeners about how you go about determining

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a winner in our dual matchups.
Yes, of course, sir. The

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way I determine a winner between the
contestants is by running one thousand Monte Carlo

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simulations using the character's statistics. A
Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used

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to determine outcomes through random sampling.
In this case, I randomize the statistics

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along a normal distribution as a way
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during battle. The stat parameters are
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from which the DC character's statistics are
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such as range, damage, potential, versatility, and perception in order to

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create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the one thousand simulations

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provide a percentage of wins for each
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is declared the victor, as they
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battle. In an equitable pairing,
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the matches. The comic book stories
have shown that there's even a way for

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Batman to defeat Superman, so the
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with the precedents that have been established
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are without subjectivity or bias. Feats
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fan votes tabulated for determination of the
winner. Thanks age nine thousand. Before

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we run the simulations, though,
we like to break down each character's histories

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and abilities before improvising a scenario on
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simulations would play out beat for beat, and I believe it's my turn to

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go first with the DC character's backstory, So let me tell you all about

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mirror Master now. The original Mirror
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a simple burglar who was forced to
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with a mirror after she caught him
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Thanks to the forensic work of Central
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Flash, who you can learn more
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Sam Scudder was eventually caught, arrested, and imprisoned. While in prison,

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Sam was put to work making mirrors. After accidentally mixing the wrong reflective elements

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for the glass backing, Sam was
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but he kept it and learned to
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a variety of effects, including creating
duplicates of objects and even people. With

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the duplicates under his control, Sam
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gathering resources to form a costume and
filling his identity known as Mirror Master.

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One of the people Sam duplicated was
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the Flash intervening and defeating him.
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by angling several mirrors, he could
see a reflection of a Mirror World,

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another dimension which he was able to
enter and escape prison and able to leave

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the Mirror World. However, Sam
reached out to the Flash through mirrors and

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the hope that the Flash would be
able to help him get back. Sam's

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plan worked, but the Flash simply
returned him to prison. Upon his return,

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Sam and several other members of the
flashes recurring Rogue's gallery were later brought

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together by Gorilla Grod in order to
distract the Flash while he enacted a plan

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to take over the world. Though
Grod's plan failed, the Rogues decided to

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form a Villains Club to increase their
chances of success in their heists and against

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the Flash. In one of their
team's escapades, Sam created an illusion that

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made Kid Flash believe that Sam had
killed his mentor. The Flash enraged,

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Kid Flash nearly beat Sam to death, though the Flash was able to reveal

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Sam's allusion to kid Flash and calm
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taken back to prison. In addition
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Sam was also a founding member of
the Injustice Gang and the Secret Society of

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Supervillains. During the Crisis on Infinite
Earth's event, Sam was put on a

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team led by Lex Luthor to prevent
the Owen scientist Krona from glimpsing the beginning

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of time, an act that fractured
the universe. Sam, Isicle, and

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Maldoor the Dark Lord made it to
Corona's viewing screen, but failed at destroying

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it before succumbing to a booby trap
that killed all three of them. Sam's

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equipment that he used as Mirrormaster was
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it eventually came into the possession of
the FBI, who would later give it

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to a Scottish mercenary named Evan McCulloch. Evan was an orphan given up by

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wealthy parents who felt they were too
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When one of the orphans tried to
molest him, Evan drowned him,

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holding his head underwater. As Evan
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Evan ran away from the orphanage right
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to a life of crime in order
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and assassin. Evan accident, he
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Upon realizing what he had done,
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mother, whom he attempted to approach
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nerve, it was too late,
as she had already committed suicide. Distraught

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and ready to turn himself into the
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him instead to assassinate high profile targets
that they were legally not allowed to.

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Evan became the new Mirror Master,
given the initial task of scaring Animal Man

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into giving up his staunch animal rights
stance. The Animal Man's wife prevented Evan

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from succeeding when Evan refused to the
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children. Animal Man helped Evan locate
his FBI handlers, whom Evan ended up

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killing. Now working as a supervillain
for hire, Evan eventually moved to Keystone

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City, where he found Sam Scudder's
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which led Evan to rediscover the Mirror
World. Evan to the Mirror World

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to stock an old girlfriend that had
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the Flash stopped him from getting revenge
on her. The original Rogues team later

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reformed and welcomed Evan as Sam Scudder's
official successor. What wasn't long before they

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all died when accidentally and unknowingly summoning
the demon Neuron from hell. The Flash

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was able to bring them back to
life, after which Evan was hired by

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Lex Luthor to join his version of
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League of America, though Evan quit
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Lex Luthor was paying him. Evan
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by the villain Blacksmith, who ordered
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he did disguised as pied Piper himself. You can learn more about Piede Piper

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in his dual episode against Sogbird.
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Evan left her team and rejoined the
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a cocaine addiction. After being captured
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Evan managed to blackmail his way off
the team after taking incriminating photos of several

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superheroes. After rejoining the Rogues,
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villain Inertia into killing bart Allen,
a young hero who had recently taken up

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the mantle of the Flash. The
Rogues eventually got their revenge, and not

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long after, Barry Allen returned as
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Sam Scudder was once again Mirror Master, who, along with the other Rogues,

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underwent a secret procedure that merged their
weapons into their bodies, in Sam's

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case, his mirror gun. When
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Sam became trapped in the mirror world
as a result, and his girlfriend,

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Captain Cold's sister Lisa Snart, who
was also hit by the explosion,

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lost her physical form. Sam,
Lisa, and the other affected rogues tried

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to get revenge on Captain Cold for
encouraging them to undergo the procedure. Kept

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in Cold and the Flash were eventually
able to help reverse its powers. Wise

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Mirror Master wields a mirror gun and
as soon as equipped with mirror technology that

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allows him to create illusions, often
copies of himself or others, and bend

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lights, allowing him to be invisible. He can transform people and objects into

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glass, after which he can easily
shatter them with his mirrors. He could

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observe events of the past within the
area of observation, and he can use

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any reflective surface to enter the mirror
world, which he uses to teleport from

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one location to another or trap people
within the mirror world dimension. From his

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gun, he could shoot lasers or
create mirror portals. And that's Mirror Master.

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It seems like a random assortment of
grab Bak powers somewhat related to mirrors.

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It gets even more random than that. That's just like the main things

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he can do. But there's a
lot of other feats I've seen him do

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that are pretty bonkers, like turning
animal man into a mirror that like whoever

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he touched, he would become that
person. What that doesn't make any sense.

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So all of his powers are magic
based, essentially because of the mystical

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qualities of the chemicals that the original
Mirror Master used. Yeah, I think

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you could probably argue that his powers
are mystic based, because I have no

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idea what technology he's using if it
wasn't interesting interesting, and that would actually

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be a good way to kind of
rationalize the seeming randomness of his abilities.

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I think. Yeah, He's also
known to do a lot of like hypnotism

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with his mirrors. Not quite sure
how. I think it's more of an

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illusion based thing where he just tricks
people into doing things. Okay, Well,

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the spot is much more clearly defined
and honestly a fascinating character, much

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more fascinating than I think a lot
of people give him credit for. He's

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kind of like a C list dalist
villain of Spider Man, but in recent

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years I think they've used him much
better realizing that potential. Let me tell

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you about his backstory. So very
little is known about Jonathan owens early history,

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save that he had a son named
Wyatt, owned with an ex wife,

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and that he received his doctorate degree
from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology or

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MIT. It was there that he
was roommates with a man named Quentin Beck,

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a brilliant fellow engineer who would one
day go on to become Mysterio,

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a spider Man, villain you can
learn more about in our Scarecrow Versus Mysterio

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dual episode. Following a similar path, Jonathan began working as a scientist in

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New York City for Wilson Fisk,
the Kingpin of crime, who had become

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a regular villain to New York street
level heroes. After one of the kingpins

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superpowered Henchman, lost in a fight
against the hero's Cloak and Dagger, the

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Kingpin turned to Jonathan to find a
way to develop superhuman powers for a replacement

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Henchman, and you can learn more
about Kingpin in our episode where we pit

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him against the Penguin. Inspired by
Cloak of Cloak and Dagger, Jonathan experimented

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to find a way to create a
portal to the Dark Force dimension as a

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means to replicate that hero's power,
and we pit Cloak and Dagger against the

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Wonder Twins in a previous toll that
you can check out later. But while

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working late one night in his lab, Jonathan managed to successfully create a dark

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circular portal to an alternate dimension.
The amount of energy required to create the

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portal, however, was so great
that it began to drain the city's power

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grid. Causing Manhattan to experience an
electrical blackout. The portal began destabilizing due

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to the lab equipments weakening electrical power, and with Jonathan's uncertainty he would ever

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be able to get the portal back, he stepped into it right as the

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power went out at his lab.
He blacked out and woke up floating weightlessly

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in what he assumed was the Dark
Force Dimension, but turned out to be

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composed of both light and darkness,
called the Spotted Dimension, which was a

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crossroads full of infinite portals across dimensional
space. Jonathan slipped back through his original

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portal and found himself back in his
lab, but having undergone a radical transformation.

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His entire body head to toe was
bleached white and covered in dozens of

403
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:04.720
black spots that Jonathan discovered were removable
portals that he could manipulate around him.

404
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:11.319
Realizing that he had made himself into
the Kingpin's next superpowered villain, Jonathan confronted

405
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:15.720
Spider Man and the Black Cat,
though when he announced himself he couldn't think

406
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.920
of a supervillain name better than Spot. This caused Spider Man to fall to

407
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.960
the ground in hysterics, but Jonathan
defeated both heroes using misdirection to via his

408
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:29.480
portals and warned them to leave the
Kingpin alone. You can learn more about

409
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.160
Spider Man and Black Hat in their
duels against Blue Beetle and Batwoman, respectively.

410
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.160
Jonathan lost his second fight with Spider
Man when Spidy tricked him into removing

411
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.400
too many of the portals from his
body, leaving himself with none for defense.

412
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.480
Aggrieved by his loss, Jonathan helped
form a small supervillain group called the

413
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.519
Spider Man Revenge Squad because again he
was just so great with names, but

414
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.839
the team was defeated. He was
later captured by a greedy corporation called the

415
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.880
Gideon Trust, who used him to
open a portal into the Negatives in order

416
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.119
to exploit its natural resources. However, the Fantastic Four, who were trapped

417
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.839
in the Negative Zone at the time, were able to put a stop to

418
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.960
it. Though it appeared that Jonathan
died while being held captive, he showed

419
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.880
up again later to help the villain
called Tombstone escape from prison, who thanked

420
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.119
Jonathan by snapping his neck and killing
him jeez. Curiously, Jonathan showed up

421
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.920
again meeting with other lesser known villains
about the organization Hydra's partnership with the mysterious

422
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:33.480
Hand Ninjas who were killing off obscure
bad guys. Jonathan himself was killed by

423
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.359
the Hand, only to be resurrected
alongside the rest of their victims as brainwashed

424
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.119
agents of Hydra, and he helped
an all out assault on the International Law

425
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:47.160
Enforcement Agency Shield that brought down an
entire hell carrier. Jonathan was taken out

426
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.279
by Wolverine during the battle, however, again seemingly killed, he resurfaced later

427
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.599
as a part of a supervillain group
led by Modoc, though he was attacked

428
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.279
by the Mandarin, who used his
Black Light ring to send Jonathan into the

429
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.200
Spotted Demand, where he became trapped
for a time since he did not go

430
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:07.039
there on his own volition and could
not find his way back. After going

431
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.599
mad in his isolation, he managed
to return home by focusing on his son,

432
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.200
Wyatt and finding the right portal to
return back. Jonathan then served as

433
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.400
a henchman for Mister Negative, a
villain who had dark Force and Light Force

434
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.519
powers like Cloak and Dagger, and
who promised to try and return Jonathan to

435
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.240
his normal state. Jonathan later fought
Daredevil, who utterly trounced him due to

436
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.599
his radar senses, and he also
lost and was killed in a fight against

437
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.279
the carnage symbiote who wanted access to
the spotted Dimension. How many times is

438
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.680
this guy gonna die? In that
battle? However, it was discovered that

439
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:46.599
whenever Jonathan dies, he is resurrected
again in the spotted dimension. Why just

440
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:51.839
due to the nature of his powers
powers wise, the Spot has access to

441
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.039
the spotted dimension, which is a
crossroads to other points in dimensional space,

442
00:32:55.319 --> 00:33:00.160
all through black circular portals that he
can manipulate. Several dozen of these portals

443
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:06.119
from that dimension are attached to the
Spot's body, rendering him partially intangible like

444
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.720
Swiss cheese, where anything that enters
the portals passes through it and out At

445
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:15.400
another point. Spot can move andre
size these portals around himself and also project

446
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.799
them from his body to a fixed
point in space within a range of a

447
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.960
few blocks or so. Since he
doesn't have an unlimited number of these portals

448
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.839
available, if he projects enough of
them off of his body, he leaves

449
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.880
himself vulnerable. Through his portals,
he can teleport himself partially or in whole

450
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.640
to other locations or to the spotted
dimension itself. He can also teleport other

451
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.400
people or things within his portals,
and if he has ever killed, he's

452
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.920
resurrected inside the spotted dimension over time. Finally, Spot is also a gifted

453
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.599
physicist. Okay, so he could
do one thing that Mirrormaster can do,

454
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.480
and Mirrormaster can also do a whole
bunch of other things in addition to that.

455
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:57.279
This should be a good match.
Yeah, but the Spot can do

456
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.519
that one thing really well and think
much more effectively. We'll see. We'll

457
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.920
see. Mirror Maaster can't just create
mirrors and fixed points around the battlefield.

458
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.679
I literally said he could with his
mirror gun. What are you talking about?

459
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.599
Yeah he can. Yeah, he
has to shoot the mirror gun,

460
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.840
though it doesn't happen like instantaneously like
it does with the Spot. Oh okay,

461
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.639
well you got me there, I
guess there you go. Well,

462
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.960
now that we've got their histories and
abilities out of the way, let's speculate

463
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.480
on how one of the one thousand
simulated matches will go. The winner is

464
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.960
determined by simulations, not the speculation, but it's fun to imagine how this

465
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:37.079
fight could play out. Alfred Jarvis
nine thousand. What are the rules of

466
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.400
our speculation? Well, I should
say there are no rules other than the

467
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:45.159
characters have no prior knowledge of the
other going into the fight. All they

468
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.880
are aware of starting out is that
the other character is a threat that needs

469
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.960
to be eliminated. For the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately fifty meters

470
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.360
apart in a nondescript environment that will
have no bearing on the match itself,

471
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.400
as no environmental sta sticks are considered
in my simulations. The contestants must earn

472
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.280
victory on their own merit. All
right, then let's get into it.

473
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.360
Mirror Master in spot Meat on the
battlefield, who goes first? All right?

474
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.039
I'm gonna say that since Mirror Master
is a flash villain, he's used

475
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.679
to dealing with like speedy adversaries,
so he's going to be pretty quick on

476
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.760
the draw, and he's gonna start
first with a series of laser blasts at

477
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.119
the spot from his mirror gun.
Okay, yeah, it makes sense.

478
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.760
But those laser shots are going to
go right through the portals on spots body

479
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:35.800
and they're going to come out a
different portal on his body, which is

480
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.039
gonna look like this cool laser show
emanating from spots body with like lasers flying

481
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.880
everywhere, including out of his ass
that black hole. Yeah, yep,

482
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.679
including from there, and one of
these lasers is going to get redirected at

483
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.960
mirror Master himself, essentially causing Mirrormaster
to shoot himself, except that before the

484
00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:00.000
laser reaches him, mirror Master is
going to pull out like a pocket mirror

485
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.000
that reflects the laser back at the
spot. Okay, and that laser would

486
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.519
just get blocked by a portal that
the Spot whips out, and the laser

487
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:13.079
is gonna go through that portal and
then back out through a portal that's behind

488
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.400
mirror Master, tagging the guy in
the back of the head. This is

489
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:21.920
like the slowest moving glazer that has
ever existed. It's been bounced back a

490
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.320
few times, but ultimately it ends
up hitting mirror Master. Okay, well,

491
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.960
I mean once mirror Master is hit, he's just gonna shatter. It's

492
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.440
like dozens of glass pieces. Oh
match over then cool. That's why you

493
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:40.119
think when the Spot approaches the glass
shards to investigate, that's when mirror Master

494
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.800
is handed. He's just gonna like
reach through one of the shards with his

495
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.920
mirror gun. And he's gonna shoot
a blinding flash that's gonna stun the Spot,

496
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.519
and when like the Spot blinks away
all of the light, he's gonna

497
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.280
find himself surrounded by like twenty mirror
Masters. How did he not die right

498
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.639
there? I don't get it,
Hey, he's tricky like that. But

499
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:05.719
when the Spot is stunned, he's
gonna fall backwards into a portal that he

500
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.280
creates, which is going to take
him to the spot at dimension, and

501
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.400
it's there where a mirror Master can't
reach him. He's gonna recuperates, and

502
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.280
then like he pokes his head back
into the battlefield to see what's going on,

503
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.760
and that's when he's gonna see twenty
reror Masters standing around. But he's

504
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.280
gonna deal with them easily. He's
going to open up a portal next to

505
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.480
each one of the Mirror Master duplicates
heads and he's just gonna quickly just punch

506
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.400
all of them in the face,
like reverse whack a mole, where the

507
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.840
mole hits you. I mean,
except all that happens now is the Spot's

508
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.760
hand is like cut up from all
the broken glass that's created when he punches

509
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:44.360
these mirror Master reflections and Spots.
Spots fist is now covered in glass shards,

510
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.960
and within those, you know,
he sees mirror Master laughing at him.

511
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.960
Well, I mean, like one
of these mirror Master duplicates has to

512
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.280
be the real Mirror Master, not
just a glass reflection duplicate, I think.

513
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.920
So. Yeah, So he punches
the real one because the real one's

514
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:07.480
invisible. Okay, it's Spot like
with his wounded hand covered in glass shards.

515
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.320
Back in the spotted dimension, He's
suddenly going to see like twenty versions

516
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.239
of himself and they all jump on
him. Okay, but Spots sees like

517
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.039
these duplicates of himself and he's like, oh hell no, and so he's

518
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.880
gonna leave the Spotted dimension and come
back to the battlefield escaping them. Okay,

519
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.840
but once he steps foot back onto
the battlefield, he's going to step

520
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.199
onto a mirror on the ground and
instantly he's gonna fall right into it,

521
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.280
into the mirror world. How does
he land out a mirror? How does

522
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.719
Mirrormaster know where the Spot was going
to return back to the battlefield. I

523
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:44.239
mean, he saw the black portal
open up and fired a mirror beneath it.

524
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:50.039
So dumb Mirrormaster is so stupid.
Okay, so the Spot is in

525
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.679
mirror World. What's that even?
Like? Good question? I mean I've

526
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.480
seen it portrayed a number of different
ways, Like sometimes they're just trapped in

527
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.320
glass and could just like see the
world around them, but like other ways

528
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.760
they're trapped in like a distorted version
of the reality that they came from.

529
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.119
But you know, like since the
battlefield environment is not descript it's it's kind

530
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:13.320
of hard to say what it's like. Basically, think of it like a

531
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:19.440
kaleidoscopic version of the non environment.
But that's just gonna make Spot discombobulated because

532
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.519
left is right and right is left, and that's when Mirror Master is just

533
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.119
going to run up to him and
just clock him right in the jaw,

534
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.559
laying him out. Oh, he
punches him in the jaw, you mean,

535
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.119
like where there's this giant spot on
his body. No, well,

536
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.760
too bad, because Spot moved one
of his dimensional spots there, So Mirrormaster's

537
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:45.079
fist goes into spots jaw and then
back out another portal on Spot's face,

538
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.000
which causes Mirrormaster to lay his own
damn self out, and then Spot is

539
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.639
going to transport both of them out
of the mirror world into the Spotted dimension,

540
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.679
where the Spot is going to send
a bunch of portals to surround Mirror

541
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.119
Master and then he's just gonna beat
the shit out of him from all angles

542
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.280
in an unrelenting beatdown. And he's
gonna steal Mirror Master's gun from him too.

543
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.880
Actually, when Spot reaches for a
mirror Master's gun, his hand is

544
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.519
just gonna bounce off of a mirror, and like now he finds himself in

545
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.960
a hall of mirrors within the Spotted
dimension. What and in one of those

546
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:27.480
mirrors, he's gonna see Mirror Master
holding him the Spot in a headlock with

547
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.880
like a glass shard held out his
throat, which causes the real Spot's throat

548
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:36.840
to open up simultaneously and then bleed
out. What kind of horror movie shit?

549
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.760
Is this? Totally crap? Yeah? I think what the Spot actually

550
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:47.440
sees in that reflection is a portal
lower over a mirror Master's head so that

551
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.440
just Mirror Master's head is in the
portal and then the portal closes, so

552
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.719
bam, portal decapitation. That's what
he sees. Because like in the Spotted

553
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.760
dimension, the Spot is in control, he can move things around as he

554
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.840
sees fit, and no Hall of
Mirrors bullshit is going to change that,

555
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:12.360
except that the decapitation was an illusion
created by Mirror Master to give Spot false

556
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.719
hope. They were never back in
the Spotted dimension. They never left the

557
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:21.000
Mirror world where a mirror Master is
in control, its spots throat is still

558
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:28.280
slit. Well, actually that's stupid, and we'll just call the match there.

559
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.320
We'll see which of the scenarios happens. Either Mirror Master is in the

560
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:37.159
Spotted dimension and has a portal take
his head off, or Spot is in

561
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.039
the Mirror world and gets his throat
slit. That's violent. Well, they

562
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.480
are bad guys, but we're gonna
input the character stats, have AJA nine

563
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.800
thousand, run the simulations, and
come back with a winner. Take it

564
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:53.480
away, a J nine thousand inputting
data, running calculations, processing results,

565
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.360
simulations complete. All right, that
was an interesting fight. I knew it

566
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.079
was going to be really difficult to
kind of like speculate on how the match

567
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:06.400
was going to go, but Mirror
Maaster just has way too many weird shit

568
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.480
that he can do. It was
like fighting Mysterio. Yeah, that's sort

569
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.079
of what I wanted it to be
like, yeah, this felt kind of

570
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.159
similar to that. Although you know, the Spot is a pretty cool versatile

571
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.119
character on his own, it's just
that when you put him in this,

572
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.480
like all this strangeness, it gets
a little bit hard for him to be

573
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.000
as effective as he usually is.
It's just so damn bizarre. I agree,

574
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:30.199
But you mentioned spots of versatility.
He was versatile, but not as

575
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.400
versatile as mirror Master, and that's
one of the stack categories that Mirrormaster came

576
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.880
out on top. Well, I
mean, when it comes down to it,

577
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.840
really, the two things that the
Spot can do to you is harm

578
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:45.840
you physically through punches and kicks and
trap you within his dimension. All of

579
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.159
his abilities are basically riffs on those
two things. Whereas Mirrormaster can freak in

580
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.599
shoot you with a laser gun,
he can stab you with glass, trap

581
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:59.719
you in the mirror world, cause
you to see illusions, blind you all

582
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.719
kinds a stupid shit. But yeah, versatility was actually the biggest discrepancy between

583
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.400
their stack categories. Another noticeable difference
was in perception. Yeah, considering the

584
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:13.960
fact that Mirrormaster can see in here
through reflective surfaces, and he could also

585
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:19.079
see into the past through his mirrors, so random, Spot though, was

586
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.639
more evasive. The Spot is really
damn near almost intangible, and we said

587
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:28.679
Spot was smarter than Mirrormaster. Both
of them could be considered insanely quick considering

588
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:34.039
they're pretty near instantaneous teleporters and they
can like duplicate themselves at their sense,

589
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.360
although Spot can more accurately be described
as partial duplication. Yeah, and when

590
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.880
it came down to stats like durability
and strength, we said they were par

591
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.119
for the course, and the same
came to range. Surprisingly, I thought

592
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.440
mirror Maaster was going to take the
edge on range, but the Spot can

593
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.119
create his portals pretty far away.
Yep. So taking all of the stats

594
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.400
into consideration, who do you think
came out on top Spot? I think

595
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:00.320
so, huh. I think that
Spot is going to in at least a

596
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:06.320
few of these simulated matches, So
yeah, Spot, And you know a

597
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.679
lot of Instagram agrees with me.
Fifty five percent of our poll takers said

598
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.480
that Spot is going to take this
over a mirror Master, which makes sense.

599
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.719
I feel like the Marvel guys keep
winning that Instagram poll, Like,

600
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.440
when's the last time a DC guy
won that pole? It's been a while.

601
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.440
Well, there are just more Marvel
fans out there in the world in

602
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:29.719
general. The fulls stands to reason
that we would have more Marvel fans following

603
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.920
us on Instagram and voting in that
poll. DC Nation, I know you

604
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guys are at there. You gotta
rise up kind of vote in that pole.

605
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DC Nation is too ambivalent about their
own universe, so well they shouldn't

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be, because we're winners, are
you. Let's find out a j nine

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00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:51.199
thousand the results please, Hey,
USA, the winner in the matchup between

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Mirror Master and Spots is mirror Master
by seventy one point four percent of the

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one thousand matches. Seventy one.
Okay, well you know it's not seventy

610
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:12.400
five, so that's cool that Yeah, Spot one two hundred and eighty six

611
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.320
of the one thousand matches, or
twenty eight point six percent of the time,

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00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.880
So roughly over a quarter of the
matches Spot wins and almost three fourths

613
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.320
of the time mirror Maaster wins.
Yeah, this was not a close match.

614
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.400
Well, whose idea was this match? Anyway? I'm going to blame

615
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.719
the executive producers on this one.
Actually, I think I was the one

616
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.280
that pushed for this. Actually,
I think it might have been Miggey,

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but I was all for it.
Well, somebody signed off on it when

618
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.320
they weren't necessarily supposed to. I
know that I was at least excited to

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00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.679
touch on the spot considering that you
know, he's going to be in the

620
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.639
upcoming Spider Verse film. Yeah,
it's kind of hard to come up with

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00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.840
a matchup for him. I still
think this was an interesting matchup, if

622
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.079
not entirely well balanced. Well,
Mirrormaster is just too damn weird, you

623
00:45:55.119 --> 00:46:00.320
know, like any fight going up
against Mirrormaster is going to be. And

624
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it really leaves me curious about how
he's going to play a factor in the

625
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.519
upcoming team duel. Oh yeah,
against the Brotherhood of Mutants. That's that's

626
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.719
gonna be a lot of fun.
You don't stand a chance, Hey,

627
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.360
you think so? How I'm gonna
beat the shit out of him in the

628
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.719
speculation just for fun? But I
think that does it for this duel.

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640
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itself. Next week, it was
supposed to be the Team Dual episode.

641
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.719
I will be out of town unfortunately. Sorry guys, but we're going to

642
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.000
review the latest DC animated film,
which is Batman The Doom That Came to

643
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.840
Gotham, which is actually a Mike
Mignola story from the comics Mike Manolo being

644
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.719
the creator of Hellboy, So it's
kind of like a Hellboy esque Batman tale

645
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.360
that I'm interested in watching and seeing
what it's all about. Yeah, you

646
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.239
could describe it as lovecraftian. I
would say it's pretty cool. So look

647
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.880
forward to that next week and then
the week after we're going to find out

648
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.639
who would win between the Flash Rogues
and the Brotherhood of Mutants. But that

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00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:43.000
does it for this episode. We
want to give a big thanks to our

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executive producers Ken Johnson, John Stoski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcolm Magi,

651
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:53.480
Matinian, Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, lev Yayton, Nikabanto, Austin Wizolaski,

652
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:59.599
AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil
Camacho, and Adam Spees for helping

653
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.239
make this podcast possible. We'll talk
to you guys next week, Up,

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00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.360
Up, and away, True Believers. And I think we should also have

655
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.320
Alfred Jarvis nine thousand sign off on
this episode two, considering he is a

656
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.719
part of this podcast, so AJ
go ahead and give us some parting words.

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It is my duty to please that
booty.