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This is a dyna Mic network podcast.
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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic Dual Podcast, a Rotten
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Tomatoes approved show that reviews superhero films and series through
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the lens of the DC and Marvel fandoms. I'm Joseph
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and I'm his twin brother Jonathan, And in this episode,
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we are reviewing Supergirl, which was released in theaters this
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past weekend. And yeah, that sums it up. It's not bad.
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Don't act like it is. Everyone's acting like it is.
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It's not bad. It's not bad. I mean, is it
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a masterpiece? No? No, it's saying it's a masterpiece. No,
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I'm definitely not saying that. But let's talk more about
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the movie later on in our non spoiler review. Before that,
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we have a quick message from our AI co host
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the shows in the Dynamite podcast Network. Pit Pip Cheerio, Thanks, he.
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Jane and Kay. If you listen to our last episode,
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you know that we reviewed the Marvel one shot Punisher
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One Last Kill. Yeah. During that review, we discussed a
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lot of the characters so we're in that one shot
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that appeared in the comic books, and then we asked
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you guys, who you thought would make a good matchup
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for some of those characters. We didn't get a whole
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lot of answers. We got just a few, actually from
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Devin on Discord, and one of his best suggestions I
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thought was a duel with Micro, who is the Punisher
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sidekick for a long time. He's a hacker basically, Yeah,
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he's a hacker. He's a tech guy. He was featured
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pretty heavily in the first season of The Punisher on Netflix,
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played by Ebon Moss Backrock Yeah, and he was also
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in Punisher Warzone played by Newman new Mean Yeah. Micro's
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real name is David Lieberman in the comic books. He
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was a former hacker who became the Punisher's technical partner
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after the Kingpin murdered his nephew. He's a genius, a programmer,
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an engineer. He's the guy in the chair. He built
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the Punisher's Punisher Van and all of his gadgets. He
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maintained his entire arsenal and gathered intelligence for him and
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managed his safe houses. Does the Punishers Van not have
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a name? It's not called like the Punisher Mobile. No,
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it's the Punisher Battle Van. Okay, that works well. Going
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up against Micro is DC's own man in the chair,
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the Calculator aka Noah Cutter, who evolved from this gimmicky
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armored thief went up against Batman to the Underworld's answer
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essentially to Oracle. He's a genius, strategist and info broker
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for supervillains. He has criminal contacts, he has predictive gear,
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he has gadgets, he has hacking abilities, and he even
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has tech manipulating powers. I did not know that he
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has technopathy. You've seen it described as technopathy or mechkinesis cyberpathy.
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Ew what I guess Micro's going down? Let's get these results.
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Ajank the results please, Hey you are sir all right.
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The winner of the matchup between Calculator and Micro is
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Calculator to No, it's surprised because who cares about Micro.
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He's some fat dude that sits in a chair all day. Jonathan,
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you are a fat dude in a chair right now.
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You got to say, like it is Marge anyway. Calculator
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one six and forty four out of the one thousand matches,
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or sixty four point four percent of the time, compared
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to Micro, who only won thirty five point six percent. Wow,
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that's even incorporating microchips, arsenal and everything. So that was
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kind of a mismatch. I guess you went some, you
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lose some, You learned some, and I learned the DC's
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over parod as usual. Anyway, let's even learn that after
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ten years of duels. Come on, Yes, that was my
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main takeaway. Yes. With that out of the way, before
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we get into the review, let's give a quick breakdown
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of the comic book histories of the characters that appear
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in Supergirl in a segment called Who's Who. So In
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the last review that I did for Supergirl, the eighties version,
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I already went over Supergirl. Let's go over it again.
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Here's Supergirl's comic book history. She's Carralzrel when she was
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born in Argo City, which is a surviving fragment of
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Krypton that drifted through space after the planet's destruction. Raised
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by her parents, Zarel and Alura, Car lived a happy
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childhood until a meteor shower pierced Argo's protective led shielding,
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exposing the citizens to deadly radiation. To save their daughter,
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Kara's parents sent her to Earth, where she was meant
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to be raised by her cousin Superman. Upon arriving, Kara
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displayed the same powers as Kalel under Earth's yellow sun.
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Like Superman, she has super strength, speed and durability, enhanced senses, heat, vision, freeze, breath,
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and of course flight. She also shares her cousin's loss
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of power under a red sun, as well as his
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vulnerability to kryptonite and green sun radiation. So green sun
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radiation is a thing. It is in the Supergirled Woman
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of Tomorrow source material. Okay, okay, I'll accept it then.
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Also appearing in this film is Ruthie nary Knowl. Ruthie
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is a headstrong and honorable young girl from a rock
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farm on an unnamed planet under a red Sun. After
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a Krem of the Yellow Hills kills her father, she
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enlists Supergirl's help in traveling across the galaxy to get
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her revenge. She doesn't have any powers, but she does
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carry a coppice sword that formerly belonged to Krem. It
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was the one that was used to kill her father.
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she used. Yeah. Actually, in the comics, Ruthie's father was
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not a swordsmith, he was just a rock farmer. Interesting.
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Speaking of Krem of the Yellow Hills, he is a
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king's agent from the same Red Sun world as Ruthie.
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After killing her father, kram fled in Kara's spaceship and
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traveled the cosmos, infecting innocent planets with his selfish and
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cruel ways before joining a band of space pirates known
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as the Brigands. Now he's a skilled archer and swordsman,
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as well as an accomplished hunter who uses potent custom
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poison in his travels. He also acquired knowledge of necromancy,
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which he uses to produce more drew globes capable of
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teleporting someone across the galaxy, though he needs to kill
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a thousand souls to produce one. Finally, we're going to
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touch on Lobo, who we pit in a duel against
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Carnage a while back, right, and we pit Supergirl against
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Captain Marvel. Now. Lobo is an alien bounty hunter from
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the planet Zarnia, and he's responsible for killing every last
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member of his race for fun. Essentially, he's a mercenary
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and bounty hunter who clashes with heroes and villains alike
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as he searches for his targets across space. He's insanely shrunk,
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and he has a healing factor that can resurrect him
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from a single drop of blood. He also carries with
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him a vast arsenal of blades, guns, and explosives, though
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his signature weapon is a hook and a chain and
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he's rarely seen without his space hog capable of interstellar travel.
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Fun character, he's kind of like the Deadpool of DC
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in a way. Eh yeah, but like not as good
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version because it's DC. Deadpool wishes he was half as
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cool as Lobo. I'm just saying Lobo is the main man.
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I would say we put him in a duel, but
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of course DC would be overpowered, so I'm not even
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gonna bother That's right. But now let's go ahead and
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move on to our remain event, in which we review
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the latest DC Studios film to hit the screens, Supergirl. Okay.
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Supergirl stars Millie Alcock, E Ridley and Matthias show Narts.
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I think is how you pronounce it. It's directed by
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Craig Gillespie, who also directed Corolla and Itania. The film
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revolves around the murderous briggand Cram of the Yellow Hills,
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who poisons Kara's dog Crypto, so Supergirl reluctantly joins forces
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with a young, orphaned girl named Ruthie on an interstellar
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journey of vengeance and justice. The film is based on
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a twenty twenty one comic mini series, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow,
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written by Tom King and beautifully illustrated by Bill key Evely.
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It's an incredible book, like easily one of DC's top
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ten graphic novels of all time, and I say that
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as someone who's never really been a big Supergirl fan.
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The book is this epic space odyssey about morality and
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justice where characters speak with this poetic elegance. If you
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haven't read it, I highly recommend it. So a Supergirl,
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Woman of Tomorrow a mini series or was this just
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an arc from a longer series? Oh no, it was
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a mini series. It's good, and I was really excited
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when I heard that they were turning it into a movie,
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and even more excited when I heard how much the
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studio execs loved the screenplay. James Gunn has made a
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big deal about his DC universe only making films when
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the script is complete, as opposed to the MCU method,
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where they have this overarching, interconnected story idea and we'll
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finish the script while shooting. But for all the boasting
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about how good the Supergirl script was, I was expecting more,
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at least something much closer to the masterpiece that is
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the graphic novel. I would agree the story itself didn't
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seem like anything special, or at least didn't seem like
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anything that we haven't already seen before, which is weird
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because the book is actually pretty unique. The movie definitely
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was nowhere near as good as it should have been
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or I thought it would be, and I felt kind
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of disappointed in the film early on. I would say,
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because it starts off kind of rough, but you know,
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by the time we learned about Car's backstory in Argo City,
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as Kara connects with Ruthie's grief over losing her family,
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that's when we really get into the thematic heart of
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the film, and that's where the film shines, or would
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I would say if it weren't for the ending, which
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I'm not going to say what happens, but it does
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undercut the entire moral lesson of the film and the book.
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They essentially man of Steeled Kara. Yeah, I think the
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variety of review had mentioned that for as much as
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Superman wants to claim that he's punk rock, Supergirl is
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actually punk rock. I would say she's definitely more befitting
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of that punk rock descriptor because she's a reverent and
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you could say that about the entire film, like it's
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a reverend of the character's comic history, of the source material.
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Of the fans, I would say, perhaps in an attempt
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to garner new fans for the character, though I guess
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time will tell if they'll be successful at that. I
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took my daughters to see the movie and they liked it,
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though I honestly really hope they don't look to this
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version as any kind of role model. Like once we
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got home from the screening, immediately I was like, go
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clean your room right now. For some reason, the filmmakers
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really went out of their way to deglamorize Supergirl, like
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she's living in squalor just getting sloshed every night, letting
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Crypto piss all over and lick it everything. It's like,
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for lack of a better word, pretty trashy, and well,
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I get it's in service to depicting Kara as depressed.
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The comics have always treated the character with a lot
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more respect, like letting the subtext of her trauma unfold
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naturally in the story rather than showing her pissing with
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the door open in front of company. Yeah, I wanted
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to give her some dry shampoo or something. The entire
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movie kind of felt like an extended version of the
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Star Wars canteena scene, which was something that I told
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you after we saw the film, and then I saw
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that repeated in the Variety article, so it was nice
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to have that validation. But it's dirty, grimy. We go
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from a grungy bar scene to a grungy bus scene,
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to a grungy gas station scene to a grungy bar scene.
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The entire film is borderline gross, but I will say
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that the creature designed was something to behold. And I
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think that's one of the standout aspects of the film,
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is that, like when you first see Star Wars, you're
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just kind of like in awe of the imagination it
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took to produce these weird alien features. I think Supergirl
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kind of brought that magic back in how it was
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able to depict these strange new worlds. Possibly, I feel
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like it just kind of did what Guardians of the
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Galaxy did with aliens. Again, not surprising because gun is
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largely responsible for both films. Now, you mentioned this Variety
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article a few times. I've heard that their review is
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pretty scathing. I haven't read it because I didn't want
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to be influenced by it. Huh, but is it bad? Yeah,
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they didn't like the film. I actually liked it more
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than I think they did, because I'm not fucking cynical.
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Good good, that's good. And you know, I do go
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to superhero films looking to see spectacle, which I got,
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looking to have a good time, which I kind of had. Yeah,
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you and I both went to go see this together
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for the first time, and when we were walking out,
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I remember we talked about how good the action was.
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In particular, like one of the saving graces of this
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film for me is the action. Seeing Supergirl just cut
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loose and take out large groups of bad guys. That
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was a lot of fun. It was like she was
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playing good video game on god mode. Yeah, the film
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editing was fantastic in the way depicted the action, even
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improving on some shots that I saw on the trailers.
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That being said, a lot of the action was repetitive
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in that it was a repeat scenario of finding some
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way to deepower Supergirl and then finding a way to
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power her and then having her overcome. That's a completely
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valid criticism because yes, it happens like three or four
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times in the movie. You know. That actually reminds me
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of a few plot holes I noticed in this film,
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such as if the Sun pretty much completely heals a Kryptonian,
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why didn't Supergirl just carry Crypto to a yellow son
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instead of leaving him on a red sun planet. That's
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a good question. It also begs the question like, anytime
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Superman gets hurt, why isn't he just flying to the Sun. Well,
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he kind of does, against Doomsday. Oh he's too busy
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getting punched by Doomsday to fly into the sun. That's right,
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that's right. I also didn't think this special effects in
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this movie were terrible. I like the action. I liked
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most of the special effects. Crypto was kind of fake,
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but you know that's in keeping with the Superman movie.
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You know what else was kind of fake Lobo's abs.
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I didn't notice it until the second time I watched
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the movie, after you told me how fake they looked.
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And you're right, they look hell of fake. Jason Momoa
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definitely wore rubber abs. It looks like a full on
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Spirit Halloween costume. I don't want to bad talk Lobo
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too much because I actually really liked Lobo in this movie.
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Jason Momoa, like, he doesn't do much in the film.
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He doesn't really helped the plot in any way. He's
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kind of a glorified cameo. That said, Jason Momoa was
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born to play Lobo. I loved the look, I loved
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his voice, I loved the dialogue he had. I just
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wish he had more to do in the film. Yeah,
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if the best thing that comes out of this movie
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is a Lobo spinoff, then I will be grateful for
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this movie, because I think that'd be a lot of fun.
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I was afraid I was gonna just see Aquaman when
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he was on screen, but that totally wasn't the case.
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Loved his performance. Also, surprise, I really liked Millie Alcock's
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performance as Kara Supergirl. That was surprising to you. Yeah,
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I'd never seen her in anything. I didn't watch the
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Game of Throne show that she was in, so I
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didn't really know what to expect, and that's why it
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was surprising to me. I mean, she's nothing like the
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character of Supergirl from the comics, but she carried the film.
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I would say she embodied the character in a way
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that felt effortless. I would say, yeah, I'll admit I
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was ready to write Millie Alcock off as not having
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enough screen presence to lead a film like this, and
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I was gladly proven wrong by her performance. I think
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she was actually the best thing about this movie. The
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performances by the leads were really good, Yeah, including Eve Ridley,
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who plays Ruthie. She did a really good job as
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a foil character wise playing against Millie Alcock Supergirl, Ruthie
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was this refreshing blend of like noble yet fragile, kunning
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Gia innocent. The whole film really is a fight for
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Ruthie's soul. Thematically. The one actor who didn't do great,
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I would say, is Krem. He wasn't bad but great.
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Superhero movies often owe a large part of their success
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to their villain, and in that sense, Krem did no
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favors for a supergirl. He was pretty generic, and I
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didn't like the look. It's really different from the look
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he had in the comics. And I wish the look
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of the Brigands was less space bikery, because I could
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see how some people could be confused that Lobo was
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not a brigand or was. Yeah, I can see that
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as well. Lobo kind of looks like how the Brigands
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were depicted. I think what added a large part to
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the genericness of Krem was that it was probably hard
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to act through all of that makeup and piercings and
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all that stuff. I was glad to see that the
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piercings formed some function. They weren't there just to make
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him look more alien. They turned his head into like
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a mace. Essentially, it hurts to punch him. It hurts
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to head butt him in the face if you're attacking that.
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So that was clever I thought. But yeah, overall, it's
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hard to find many good things to say about the character.
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He's super super forgettable. Honestly, my favorite performance of the
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entire film, though, came from David korn Sweat as Superman.
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I loved seeing him as Superman again. Though I will
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say one thing about the DCU is that Superman is
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not treated with the respect he deserves, like Superhero calling
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him a freaking nerd. How dare you, young lady? He
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is a freaking nerd. That's how they chose to present him.
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I think they're at least doing it endearing. Liso. No, Joseph,
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he's the real punk rock. No he's not. He's not
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punk rock. Jonathan, He's the real punk rock. I beat
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the shit out if you say that again. Final thing
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I want to touch on is the music. Now. Music wise,
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the score, like Krem is forgettable. In fact, I literally
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can't remember it at all, though I do remember some
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very distracting jazz numbers that have no business being sung
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in alien b and bizarre renditions of modern rock songs
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that unfortunately take you out of the movie. In certain places.
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Are you talking about Jimmy Eat World? I am yeah.
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I didn't like that and I like that song. I
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know they kind of ruined it for me, Yeah, kind
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of yeah. I feel like we have been harping on
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this film this entire review, because it's just easy to do.
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That said, I do want to emphasize that I liked
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this movie, like the action is great again Millie Alcock,
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can Evewardley carry the emotional core well? And I love
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seeing Lobo on the big screen. But as an adaptation
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of the book Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, and more importantly,
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as a story about grief, essentially, the ending undercuts the
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lesson Kara is supposed to embody. The graphic novel understands
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that Supergirl's strength is not just that she can defeat evil,
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but that she can show someone else a better way.
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The film comes close to understanding that, but then compromises
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it in a way I found super frustrating when I
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was walking out of the theater. But overall, it's a fun,
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rough edged cosmic adventure with superb action and a strong
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emotional core exploring themes of grief, vengeance, and innocence. I'm
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giving it three and a half out of five stars,
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still a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I think overall
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a good quality comp for the Supergirl movie was Captain Marvel,
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and that's what we rated the first Captain Marvel film
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three and a half stars, so I would agree with that.
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Here's the big question, though, which Supergirl did you like more?
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Millie Alcox or Sasha Kaya from the Flash movie? Oh? Well,
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I mean Milli Alcock's Supergirl just had more character, so
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I think I definitely prefer her. Was that the wrong answer?
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Why are you looking at me like that? I'm not
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looking at you any what way. I'm tired you were
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looking at me like I gave the wrong answer, Like
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what a fool? Sasha Kaya is so much hotter than
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Milli Alcock. I'm sorry. The correct answer was they both
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suck because they're DC. I think we're gonna see Supergirl
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again though in the upcoming Man of Tomorrow film. Yeah
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we will, And actually Jam's Gunn and Peter Saffern have
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said we'll see her again even after that, which is good.
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It'll be nice to see her character growth as she
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continues appearing in these films. Yeah, I agree. So we
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went through our non spoiler review. But, Jonathan, are there
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any spoilers you can give us from the Supergirl movie?
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Even out of context ones? In Supergirl you'll see Supergirl
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and Ruthie eat shit. Well, that's not even out of
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context because there was no context for it. In Supergirl,
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you'll also see Supergirl barf op titty milk. And finally,
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in Supergirl, you'll see Seth Rogen to make a cameo
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in which he talks about his balls. That was Seth Rogen.
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It was. It didn't even sound like him, totallyast it did. Yeah, fascinating.
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Well that does it for our review of Supergirl. AJ
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nine K close us out.
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All right, our next episode of the podcast is going
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to be our review of Spider Noar Season one, which
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is out in its entirety right now on Amazon. I
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have not started watching it yet, so I got to
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make sure to do that over these next coming weeks.
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Same it looks good. I ever heard anything about it.
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I've been trying to avoid all spoilers, but I'm looking
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forward to it. Same with Spider Man Brand New Day,
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because that trailer was off the hook, and all the
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marketing for the Spider Man movie has been top notch,
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And the most surprising thing is that I'm like compelled
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to see it because of the personal story. I don't
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even know really who the villain's gonna be yet, I
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can't really make heads or tails of it, so it'll
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be an interesting mystery going in. But the movie comes
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out in just about a month, on July thirty first, right,
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We'll be reviewing that film in August, so stay tuned.
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It's gonna be a fun couple of months until then. Guys,
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up up and away, true believers
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Hey, ladies, Unlike Lobo, I don't have fake abs, but
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I do have real ibbs, as in I B S.
