April 21, 2026

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Review

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Hi, welcome to the Dynamic Dual Podcast, a Rotten Tomatoes

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lens of the DC and Marvel fandoms. I'm Jonathan and

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I'm his twin brother Joseph, and in this episode, we

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are doing a throwback review to a film we never

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got to review back when this podcast was a weekly show,

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and that is Amazing Spider Man two.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how we never got around to this review.

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We reviewed the first one with Zach and John are

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former executive producers, now the hosts of Senjo World and

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Console Combat. They were great guests, had a great time

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reviewing that first film. Didn't love the first film. But

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did I love Amazing Spider Man two?

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No? I didn't. I mean most people didn't.

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And honestly, the first time I walked out of the

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theater seeing it the first time, I actually really liked

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the Amazing Spider Man two. But on every subsequent rewatch

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I like it less because its faults.

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Are just more apparent.

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But you know, Jonathan, we did this show for ten years,

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reviewing films and giving spoilers. We've kind of changed up

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the format, so these are non spoiler reviews. But I

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have to ask you, given the new non spoiler format

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of these reviews, do you think Gwen Stacy constitutes as

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a spoiler for the purposes of this review, because I

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can pivot if necessary, Like I'm being purposely vague. But

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those who have a passing knowledge of Spider Man's Law,

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at least in the main six one six timeline, already

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know the defining moment that is Gwen Stacy, right. I mean,

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you and I do, because we've read comic books for

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decades now. But for newcomers who may not be familiar

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with the source material, which, let's be honest, is a

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majority of MCU fans, it's probably best to leave it

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as a spoiler. You don't even know that, I'm pretty confident.

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Can you explain why you feel that fans don't read

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comics anecdotal evidence from ten years of running your comic

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book podcast and talking with Marvel fans.

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Okay, all right, that's fair.

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We'll go ahead and get into the review later on

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this episode, but first, are artificially intelligent former dual simulator

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Pit Pip Cheerio, Thanks he J nine k now.

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In our last episode, we did a review of the

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nineteen eighty four film Supergirl, during which we discussed a

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lot of the characters in that film that appeared in

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the comic books and ask you who you thought might

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make a good matchup for some of those characters. The

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best response we got on our discord server was a

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fight between the Supergirl villain Silver Banshee and the X

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Men Banchie. I do have to say it is pretty

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heartbreaking that we never got to those characters in a duel.

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Back when this was a weekly show. Well, I did

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include Siren in the X Factor Battle Siren being Banchee's daughter,

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But you're right, Banshee is a quintessential X Men character.

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He's just one of those ones that we never got

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around to. Silver Banci was not in the Supergirl movie,

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but she is a prominent Supergirl villain. I think this

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is a pretty good matchup. Both of the characters have

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sonic screams, they could both fly, they have additional effects

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with their voices. Silver Bancie, I think is pretty strong, Yeah, strong, durable,

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Chikugo tot toe with Superman essentially. But let's find out

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who won. Ag and nin ktheris ELTs please, hey, you

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are sir, Oh, this is surprising. The winner of the

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matchup between Silver Bancie and Bancie is Silver Bancie. Now

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that's not the surprising part. The surprising part is how

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much she won by. It was only five hundred and

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twenty six of the one thousand matches, or fifty two

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point six percent of the time, compared to Bancie, who

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won forty seven point four. I thought Silver Bancie was

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going to win by a lot more, honestly, Yeah, considering

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how strong she is, and that really is the reason

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she did win. Ultimately, her strengthen durability. But Bancie has

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a lot more going for him than I would have assumed.

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He's more evasive, he's a better fighter, he's smarter, and

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he has greater perception.

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Yeah.

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Well, he's like a former policeman, so he's a trained

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fighter and he's really smart. And also he can do

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cool things with his voice, like hypnotize people and stun them.

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I really thought, because of his versatility, that Bancie was

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going to actually win this thing, But then I learned

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that Silver Banshee can throw fire. Yeah, so kind of

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stupid overpowered DC characters again again, I mean, are you

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surprised after ten years that DC characters are better?

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Come on? Better isn't the word I would use. I

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would use the word shitty.

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But before we get into the review, let's give a

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quick breakdown of the comic book histories of characters that

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appear in The Amazing Spider Man two in a segment

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called Who's Who?

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All right, there are a.

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Lot of characters from the comic books that appear in

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The Amazing Spider Man two. We'll start off with Spider

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Man of course, whose real name is Peter Parker. He's

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the orphaned son of CIA agents and was raised by

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his aunt May and uncle.

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Ben in Queen's.

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At age fifteen, he was bitten by a radioactive spider,

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gaining spider abilities. Initially using these powers for profit, Peter

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allowed a thief to escape, only to learn that say

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Man later killed his uncle Ben. The tragedy taught him

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that with great power comes great responsibility, leading him to

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become Spider Man. As Spider Man, Peter balanced heroism with

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personal hardship, including the loss of loved ones, his on

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again off again marriage to Mary Jane Watson, and the

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personal torment caused by his rogues gallery powers. Wise, he

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possesses superhuman strength, agility, speed, and durability. He can stick

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to nearly any surface and is warrant of incoming danger

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by a precognitative spider sense. Using webshooters of his own design,

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he can shoot webs to swing through the city and

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restrain enemies, and you can learn more about him in

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our dual episode against Blue Beetle. Then there's Electro, whose

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real name is Max Dillon. He was alignment from Endicott,

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New York, and he grew up in poverty after his

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father abandoned his family. Denied a chance at higher education,

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Max worked for an electric company, where desperation led him

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to risk his life during a rescue. Struck by lightning

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while in contact with high voltage lines, Max's body was

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transformed into a living electrical generator. Discovering his ability to

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produce and control massive amounts of electricity, he became Electro

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and turned to crime, clashing repeatedly with Spider Man. Now

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I should note that the version of Electro that appears

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in The Amazing Spider Man two is based more off

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of Ultimate Electro, who appears in Marvel's Ultimate Universe of

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comic books, wherein he was a genetically altered weapon created

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by Justin Hammer, turned into living lightning who had to

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be contained within a special containment suit, and in the

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Ultimate Comics he is blue in color. Interesting Electro can generate, store,

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and discharge millions of volts firing lightning blasts, or channel

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link energy through conductive materials. His body is constantly electrified,

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making physical contact dangerous.

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He can absorb.

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External electricity to increase his power, manipulate others bioelectricity to

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paralyze them and enhance his own strength and reflexes. He

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can also travel along electrical currents and levitate by writing

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electromagnetic fields. You can learn more about electro in his

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dual episode against Jay Garrick The Flash.

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In the movie.

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He is also Harry Osborne, who was the son of

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Norman Osborne, the founder of Oscorp, who once enhanced himself

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with an experimental serum that increased his strength and intelligence,

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but fractured his mind, creating the Green Goblin persona. After

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Norman's apparent death during a battle with Spider Man, Harry

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Osborne discovered the truth about his father and became the

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second Green Goblin, seeking to continue Norman's legacy and torment

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Peter Parker. Struggling with addiction and psychological instability, Harry tried

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to recreate the Goblin formula, but its instability caused progressive

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physical deterioration. Despite periods of recovery and reconciliation with Peter,

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Harry ultimately succumbed to the serreum's effects and died from

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toxic degeneration. As the Green Goblin, Harry wielded advanced weaponry

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and enhancements. He wore armored gear for protection and wrote

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a high speed Goblin gladder capable of rapid aerial maneuvering.

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His arsenal included explosive pumpkin bombs, hallucinogenic gas weapons, razor

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edged projectiles, and electrified gloves. While not as refined as Norman's,

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Harry's Goblin formula granted him enhanced strength, durability, and intelligence,

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and you can learn more about the Green Goblin in

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his dual episode against the Joker.

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Also in the film was.

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Gwen Stacy, who was Peter Parker's first true love the

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two men at Empire State University, where she played a

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pivotal moment in Spider Man's tragic history. That version of

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Gwen Stacy had no powers, but in an alternate universe

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called Earth sixty five, she became Spider Woman after being

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bit by a genetically engineered Spider, eventually finding her way

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to the mainstream Marble timeline, and you can learn more

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about Spider Gwen in our dual episode where we pit

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her against Rocket. Finally, the final character i'll discuss that

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is in Spider Man two is the Rhino real name

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Alexei Sistovich, who was a poor Russian immigrant in New

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York who turned to crime due to limited opportunities. Recruited

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by former Soviet scientists, he underwent gamma radiation experiments that

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enhanced his strength and speed, while a durable polymer suit

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was bonded permanently to his skin, forming him into the Rhino,

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an armored enforcer built for brute force. Initially used as

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a super assassin, he broke free and pursued his own

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criminal path, frequently clashing with Spider Man. He possesses immense

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superhuman strength, capable of lifting around one hundred tons, along

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with extreme durability that renders him nearly impervious to physical harm.

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His armor is resistant to most attacks, and it features

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a horn capable of piercing steel. Despite his size, he

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can reach speeds approaching one hundred miles per hour in

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a straight charge, though his momentum makes turning difficult. You

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could learn more about the Rhino in his dual episode

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against Cheetah.

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And those are all the characters.

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That appear in The Amazing Spider Man two, And in

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case it's not clear, there are way too many characters

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in The Amazing Spider Man too. Don't get me started,

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don't even get me started, except actually I will because

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we have to start the review now, okay, Well, le's

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move on to our main event then, where we review

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the twenty fourteen film The Amazing spider Man two.

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Okay.

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The Amazing spider Man two was released in twenty fourteen.

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It was directed by Mark Webb and starred Andrew Garfield,

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Emma Stone, Dane Dehon, and Jamie Fox. The story follows

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Peter Parker aka Spider Man, as he juggles several strenuous relationships,

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including but not limited to, his parents, who mysteriously disappeared

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when he was a boy, his girlfriend Gwen Stacey, who

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was potentially leaving New York for Oxford, his best friend

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Harry Osborne, who is dying of a rare disease, and

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his stalker fan Max Dillon, who becomes the villain Electro.

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Now.

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I gave the First Amazing Spider Man movie three stars,

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saying that while the cast was great, the story needlessly

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retreaded Spider Man's origin, which was done to better effect

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in the Toby Maguire franchise. I didn't love the First

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Amazing Spider Man movie, but I remember going into the

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second one really excited because I knew that it wouldn't

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have the origin story issues of the first one, and

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little did I know, Amazing Spider Man two would create

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its own story issues by losing itself to its own

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desperate franchise building. For those who may not remember, the

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First Amazing Spider Man movie came out just a few

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months after the Avengers movie in twenty twelve, and those

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before studios realized the true crossover potential that cinematic universes

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could have. The First Amazing Spider Man movie wasn't as

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focused on world building as it was trying to put

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a new spin on a familiar tail. But after Avengers

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came out, Sony decided it was gonna mine the Spider

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Man ip by introducing plot threads in the sequel for

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a whole myriad of potential future film projects. That means

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that not only did Amazing Spider Man two try to

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pick up threat from the first film and introduce a

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new villain in Electro, it also shoehorned Harry Osborne's Green

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Goblin and a potential Sinister six franchise into the mix,

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and maybe even a Black Cat spin off.

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Right.

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Yeah, The film tries to do a lot, and I

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would admire it for its ambition where not for the

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very clumsy way it handled most of it. The multiple

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plot threads that we use were so disconnected from each other,

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without any thematic through lines or interpersonal relationships. The movie

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could be described as almost quasi episodic in that it'll

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jump from arc to arc with little to no connective tissue.

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I mean, you'll have one scene where Peter Parker and

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Harry state that they've been lifelong friends, which is surprised

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to me. But it'll be followed up by a romantic

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meetup with Gwen, followed up by an action scene fight

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with Electro, followed by Peter researching his parents. All of

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those scenes happen at one point within twenty minutes of

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each other, each scene having nothing to do with each other.

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It's insanity. It's too much. I would have cut Electro.

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I would have cut well, actually, maybe just Electro. I mean, yeah,

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you'd have to cut something, right. But Electro was the

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most novel element of this film in that we had

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never seen him as a Spider Man villain on film before.

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And Jamie Fox, of course, is an A list actor, so

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it's strange that he ended up being one of the

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more superfluous parts of the plot.

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That's very true.

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I guess if you didn't have Electro on the film,

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you would just be retreading the first Spider Man films

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with the Goblin arc right. All the plot hopping, though,

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is nothing compared to what happens at the end of

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the film, which is some of the laziest world building

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I've ever seen outside of the DCEU of course. But

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like the DCEU is very much guilty of the same

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rushed approach to getting a cinematic universe going as this

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film is in that it tries to introduce too many

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elements too soon, lacking the MCU's methodical approach of giving

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characters they're due with substantial enough backstory in screen time

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shoehorn a cinematic universe into existence. You have to build

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that shit brick by brick for it to pay off,

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unless your name is James Gunn, in which case he's

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just dive into the deep end with a quasi reboot.

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It did strike me the audacity of trying to introduce

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some of these characters in this film at the very end,

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Like I had secondhand embarrassment from what they did.

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It's pretty cringe.

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How do you feel about my James gun comment where

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he's just throwing in every character like you're already supposed

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to know them into his films. Well, I mean I

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know all the characters, so I don't mind. Okay, but yeah,

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fuck everyone else.

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I guess.

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Despite all the negativity that I've been heaping gone The

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Amazing Spider Man two, I will say that there are

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some things that the film gets very right. As we

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mentioned in our review of the first movie, I think

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Andrew Garfield is my favorite cinematic Spider Man, and it's

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in this film that we get our most fully realized

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version of the non high school, mature, confident and capable

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comic book Peter Parker. And hopefully that doesn't make Tom

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Holland Spider Man fans defensive, because you know, he's amazing.

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He's great.

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I'm really looking forward to brand New Day. It's just

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that it's taken Tom Holland's character three plus films or

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so to get out of that child like framing and

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get to the point where Andrew Garfield is in this movie. Yeah,

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watching this film, I did wonder why Kevin Faigey didn't

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use Andrew Garfield, because I would agree, in my opinion,

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he is the best he's definitely the best actor. I

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think they made so many mistakes in the world building

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with the amazing Spider Man franchise that they needed to

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get away from that and wanted to make sure that

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the MCU Spider Man character would I have that baggage.

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I will admit though, that Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker is

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a little bit too wishy washy, like the dude needs

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to fucking pick a lane in regards to his relationship

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with Gwen Stacy. But despite that, I think Andrew Garfield

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compensates by being such a charismatic Peter Parker. And it

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also doesn't hurt that he is the best Spider Man

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movie costume to date, Like the design is straight out

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of the comics with a darker shading, and the eyes

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are perfect, and when he swings through the city, it

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looks better than it ever has so far, you know,

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brand New Day notwithstanding, because that looks like it's going

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to be incredible. Oh yeah, his lenses, we're so cool

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in this movie, way better than the first film. Another

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thing I would say Andrew has going for him is

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the best chemistry for a love interest out of for

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sure Spider Man films.

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I absolutely agree.

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Yeah, his chemistry with Gwen Stacy's Emma Stone was off

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the charts. Speaking of her, I remember being very nervous

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because I wanted the film to treat the emotional aspect

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of her story with respect, and I'll say that the

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film absolutely delivered in that aspect. Like, the film generates

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so much goodwill for me personally just by how mature

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and heartfelt.

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The Gwen Stacy arc was handled here.

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Yeah. Honestly, if I was the studio, I would have

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been really hesitant to go all in the way that

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they did. But yeah, absolutely respect them for being true

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to the source material. The ending moment regarding Gwen Stacy

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is definitely a case of tonal whiplash. However, considering how

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campy a majority of the movie is, Like I thought

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Jamie Foxx was inspired casting for Electro, but Electro's characterization

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here is like a nerdy, schizophrenic electrical engineer who has

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an unfortunate incident with a vat of genetically altered electric eels.

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What like fuck Man, it was cringe inducing. His motivation

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in this film is to be seen, and he develops

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a vendetta against Spider Man for like I guess, taking

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the spotlight from him in a seeming betrayal, like it

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doesn't work, or it only works if you perceive Electro

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as having this like childlike mentality. But dumb villains aren't

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very interesting, at least to me now. The motivation of

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this villain has to be one of the most awkward

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of any superhero villain in cinema history. He wants to

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be seen Oh okay, like, what does that mean? It's weird.

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At least they redeemed Jamie Foxx's character in Spider Man

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No Way Home, Oh Man. The characterization the look of

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the character was so well done by the MCU is

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just one more aspect of how embarrassing amazing Spider Man

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two is when it comes to things like Electro and

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everything else they failed to do better than other Spider

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Man films like Harry Osbourne, Right right. I think Dane

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de Han does his best as Harry Osbourne, but his arc,

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which involves finding a cure to a fatal genetic disease

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that he has, only serves to distract from the main story,

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or maybe it is the main story.

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Who knows.

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Really, He's only included here as a means to get

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to the film's climax, I think, but splitting the antagonist

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role with Electro is a disservice to both villains ultimately,

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because Goblin doesn't get enough screen time and he feels

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tacked on, and Electro essentially gets his thunder stolen from him.

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I think Dane de Han is a good Harry Osbourne.

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He had a fantastic look in the film, and it

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seems like he really gave his all in the perform

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It's just that the writing was terrible. Speaking of tact on,

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the Rhino was in this film, played by Paul Giamatti

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also played extremely campy. I would say that calling him

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a villain is arguable in this movie because it was

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a cameo at best. And the same could be said

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for Chris Cooper, who played Norman Osbourne, and I think

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he would have made an incredible Green Goblin if we

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actually got to see him in the role in any

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sort of substantial way. Yeah, if you're going to follow

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up Willem Dafoe with another actor, Chris Cooper is not

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a bad choice. The guy is a terrific actor. He

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was very menacing in the scene that he was in.

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It's just unfortunate we didn't get to see more from

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him now. The First Amazing Spider Man movie's main selling

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point was revealing the mystery behind Peter Parker's parents. We

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got a hint to the end of the first film.

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It's somewhat solved in the second one, but the story

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arc itself was always a fool's errand because Peter's parents

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aren't supposed to play a substantial part of his story

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other than giving him the tragic backdrop of being an orphan.

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So once again, just another distraction from the main story.

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But also there is no real main story, so it's

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