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This is a dyna Mic Network podcast.
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Hi, welcome to the Dynamic Dual Podcast, a Rotten Tomatoes
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approved show that reviews superhero films and series through the
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lens of the DC and Marvel fandoms. I'm Jonathan and
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I'm his twin brother Joseph, and in this episode, we
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are doing a throwback review to a film we never
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got to review back when this podcast was a weekly show,
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and that is Amazing Spider Man two.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how we never got around to this review.
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We reviewed the first one with Zach and John are
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former executive producers, now the hosts of Senjo World and
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Console Combat. They were great guests, had a great time
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reviewing that first film. Didn't love the first film. But
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did I love Amazing Spider Man two?
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No? I didn't. I mean most people didn't.
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And honestly, the first time I walked out of the
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theater seeing it the first time, I actually really liked
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the Amazing Spider Man two. But on every subsequent rewatch
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I like it less because its faults.
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Are just more apparent.
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But you know, Jonathan, we did this show for ten years,
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reviewing films and giving spoilers. We've kind of changed up
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the format, so these are non spoiler reviews. But I
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have to ask you, given the new non spoiler format
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of these reviews, do you think Gwen Stacy constitutes as
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a spoiler for the purposes of this review, because I
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can pivot if necessary, Like I'm being purposely vague. But
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those who have a passing knowledge of Spider Man's Law,
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at least in the main six one six timeline, already
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know the defining moment that is Gwen Stacy, right. I mean,
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you and I do, because we've read comic books for
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decades now. But for newcomers who may not be familiar
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with the source material, which, let's be honest, is a
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majority of MCU fans, it's probably best to leave it
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as a spoiler. You don't even know that, I'm pretty confident.
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Can you explain why you feel that fans don't read
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comics anecdotal evidence from ten years of running your comic
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book podcast and talking with Marvel fans.
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Okay, all right, that's fair.
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We'll go ahead and get into the review later on
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this episode, but first, are artificially intelligent former dual simulator
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Pit Pip Cheerio, Thanks he J nine k now.
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In our last episode, we did a review of the
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nineteen eighty four film Supergirl, during which we discussed a
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lot of the characters in that film that appeared in
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the comic books and ask you who you thought might
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make a good matchup for some of those characters. The
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best response we got on our discord server was a
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fight between the Supergirl villain Silver Banshee and the X
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Men Banchie. I do have to say it is pretty
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heartbreaking that we never got to those characters in a duel.
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Back when this was a weekly show. Well, I did
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include Siren in the X Factor Battle Siren being Banchee's daughter,
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But you're right, Banshee is a quintessential X Men character.
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He's just one of those ones that we never got
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around to. Silver Banci was not in the Supergirl movie,
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but she is a prominent Supergirl villain. I think this
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is a pretty good matchup. Both of the characters have
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sonic screams, they could both fly, they have additional effects
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with their voices. Silver Bancie, I think is pretty strong, Yeah, strong, durable,
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Chikugo tot toe with Superman essentially. But let's find out
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who won. Ag and nin ktheris ELTs please, hey, you
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are sir, Oh, this is surprising. The winner of the
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matchup between Silver Bancie and Bancie is Silver Bancie. Now
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that's not the surprising part. The surprising part is how
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much she won by. It was only five hundred and
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twenty six of the one thousand matches, or fifty two
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point six percent of the time, compared to Bancie, who
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won forty seven point four. I thought Silver Bancie was
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going to win by a lot more, honestly, Yeah, considering
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how strong she is, and that really is the reason
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she did win. Ultimately, her strengthen durability. But Bancie has
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a lot more going for him than I would have assumed.
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He's more evasive, he's a better fighter, he's smarter, and
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he has greater perception.
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Well, he's like a former policeman, so he's a trained
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fighter and he's really smart. And also he can do
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cool things with his voice, like hypnotize people and stun them.
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I really thought, because of his versatility, that Bancie was
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going to actually win this thing, But then I learned
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that Silver Banshee can throw fire. Yeah, so kind of
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stupid overpowered DC characters again again, I mean, are you
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surprised after ten years that DC characters are better?
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Come on? Better isn't the word I would use. I
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would use the word shitty.
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But before we get into the review, let's give a
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quick breakdown of the comic book histories of characters that
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appear in The Amazing Spider Man two in a segment
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called Who's Who?
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All right, there are a.
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Lot of characters from the comic books that appear in
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The Amazing Spider Man two. We'll start off with Spider
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Man of course, whose real name is Peter Parker. He's
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the orphaned son of CIA agents and was raised by
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his aunt May and uncle.
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Ben in Queen's.
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At age fifteen, he was bitten by a radioactive spider,
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gaining spider abilities. Initially using these powers for profit, Peter
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allowed a thief to escape, only to learn that say
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Man later killed his uncle Ben. The tragedy taught him
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that with great power comes great responsibility, leading him to
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become Spider Man. As Spider Man, Peter balanced heroism with
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personal hardship, including the loss of loved ones, his on
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again off again marriage to Mary Jane Watson, and the
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personal torment caused by his rogues gallery powers. Wise, he
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possesses superhuman strength, agility, speed, and durability. He can stick
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to nearly any surface and is warrant of incoming danger
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by a precognitative spider sense. Using webshooters of his own design,
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he can shoot webs to swing through the city and
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restrain enemies, and you can learn more about him in
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our dual episode against Blue Beetle. Then there's Electro, whose
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real name is Max Dillon. He was alignment from Endicott,
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New York, and he grew up in poverty after his
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father abandoned his family. Denied a chance at higher education,
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Max worked for an electric company, where desperation led him
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to risk his life during a rescue. Struck by lightning
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while in contact with high voltage lines, Max's body was
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transformed into a living electrical generator. Discovering his ability to
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produce and control massive amounts of electricity, he became Electro
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and turned to crime, clashing repeatedly with Spider Man. Now
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in The Amazing Spider Man two is based more off
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of Ultimate Electro, who appears in Marvel's Ultimate Universe of
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comic books, wherein he was a genetically altered weapon created
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by Justin Hammer, turned into living lightning who had to
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be contained within a special containment suit, and in the
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Ultimate Comics he is blue in color. Interesting Electro can generate, store,
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and discharge millions of volts firing lightning blasts, or channel
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link energy through conductive materials. His body is constantly electrified,
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making physical contact dangerous.
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He can absorb.
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External electricity to increase his power, manipulate others bioelectricity to
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paralyze them and enhance his own strength and reflexes. He
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can also travel along electrical currents and levitate by writing
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electromagnetic fields. You can learn more about electro in his
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dual episode against Jay Garrick The Flash.
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In the movie.
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He is also Harry Osborne, who was the son of
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Norman Osborne, the founder of Oscorp, who once enhanced himself
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with an experimental serum that increased his strength and intelligence,
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but fractured his mind, creating the Green Goblin persona. After
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Norman's apparent death during a battle with Spider Man, Harry
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Osborne discovered the truth about his father and became the
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second Green Goblin, seeking to continue Norman's legacy and torment
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Peter Parker. Struggling with addiction and psychological instability, Harry tried
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to recreate the Goblin formula, but its instability caused progressive
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physical deterioration. Despite periods of recovery and reconciliation with Peter,
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Harry ultimately succumbed to the serreum's effects and died from
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toxic degeneration. As the Green Goblin, Harry wielded advanced weaponry
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and enhancements. He wore armored gear for protection and wrote
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a high speed Goblin gladder capable of rapid aerial maneuvering.
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His arsenal included explosive pumpkin bombs, hallucinogenic gas weapons, razor
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edged projectiles, and electrified gloves. While not as refined as Norman's,
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Harry's Goblin formula granted him enhanced strength, durability, and intelligence,
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and you can learn more about the Green Goblin in
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his dual episode against the Joker.
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Also in the film was.
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Gwen Stacy, who was Peter Parker's first true love the
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two men at Empire State University, where she played a
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pivotal moment in Spider Man's tragic history. That version of
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Gwen Stacy had no powers, but in an alternate universe
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called Earth sixty five, she became Spider Woman after being
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bit by a genetically engineered Spider, eventually finding her way
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to the mainstream Marble timeline, and you can learn more
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about Spider Gwen in our dual episode where we pit
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her against Rocket. Finally, the final character i'll discuss that
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is in Spider Man two is the Rhino real name
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Alexei Sistovich, who was a poor Russian immigrant in New
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York who turned to crime due to limited opportunities. Recruited
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by former Soviet scientists, he underwent gamma radiation experiments that
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enhanced his strength and speed, while a durable polymer suit
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was bonded permanently to his skin, forming him into the Rhino,
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an armored enforcer built for brute force. Initially used as
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a super assassin, he broke free and pursued his own
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criminal path, frequently clashing with Spider Man. He possesses immense
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superhuman strength, capable of lifting around one hundred tons, along
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with extreme durability that renders him nearly impervious to physical harm.
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His armor is resistant to most attacks, and it features
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a horn capable of piercing steel. Despite his size, he
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can reach speeds approaching one hundred miles per hour in
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a straight charge, though his momentum makes turning difficult. You
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could learn more about the Rhino in his dual episode
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against Cheetah.
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And those are all the characters.
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That appear in The Amazing Spider Man two, And in
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case it's not clear, there are way too many characters
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in The Amazing Spider Man too. Don't get me started,
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don't even get me started, except actually I will because
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we have to start the review now, okay, Well, le's
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move on to our main event then, where we review
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the twenty fourteen film The Amazing spider Man two.
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Okay.
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The Amazing spider Man two was released in twenty fourteen.
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It was directed by Mark Webb and starred Andrew Garfield,
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Emma Stone, Dane Dehon, and Jamie Fox. The story follows
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Peter Parker aka Spider Man, as he juggles several strenuous relationships,
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including but not limited to, his parents, who mysteriously disappeared
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when he was a boy, his girlfriend Gwen Stacey, who
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was potentially leaving New York for Oxford, his best friend
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Harry Osborne, who is dying of a rare disease, and
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his stalker fan Max Dillon, who becomes the villain Electro.
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Now.
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I gave the First Amazing Spider Man movie three stars,
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saying that while the cast was great, the story needlessly
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retreaded Spider Man's origin, which was done to better effect
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in the Toby Maguire franchise. I didn't love the First
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Amazing Spider Man movie, but I remember going into the
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second one really excited because I knew that it wouldn't
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have the origin story issues of the first one, and
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little did I know, Amazing Spider Man two would create
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its own story issues by losing itself to its own
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desperate franchise building. For those who may not remember, the
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First Amazing Spider Man movie came out just a few
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months after the Avengers movie in twenty twelve, and those
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before studios realized the true crossover potential that cinematic universes
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could have. The First Amazing Spider Man movie wasn't as
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focused on world building as it was trying to put
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a new spin on a familiar tail. But after Avengers
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came out, Sony decided it was gonna mine the Spider
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Man ip by introducing plot threads in the sequel for
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a whole myriad of potential future film projects. That means
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that not only did Amazing Spider Man two try to
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pick up threat from the first film and introduce a
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new villain in Electro, it also shoehorned Harry Osborne's Green
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Goblin and a potential Sinister six franchise into the mix,
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and maybe even a Black Cat spin off.