Legion of Super-Heroes Review

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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic
Dual Podcast, a weekly show where we

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review superhero films and debate the superiority
between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters

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and stat based battle simulations. I'm
Marvelous Joe and I'm his twin brother Johnny

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DC, and in this episode,
we are going to review the latest DC

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animated film to come direct to video, The Legion of Superheroes, which has

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very little Legion of Superheroes in it. That is true. I was actually

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surprised it's mostly a Supergirl film,
kind of like how Justice League World War

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Two was more of like a Flash
film, you could say, Wonder Woman

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film, but the Flash was definitely
the main character of This is definitely a

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Supergirl film. We'll discuss the film
in its entirety later on this episode.

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Before that, we're going to break
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come out this past week, of
which there wasn't much. There was just

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a few small news items, the
most prominent of which was that Stephen Young

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has joined Marvel's Thunderbolts movie in a
quote significant role, so that's pretty exciting.

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to give a super special happy birthday
shout out to Migi Matinian and aj Dunkerley,

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who both support this show and had
birthdays this past week. Yeah,

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on the same day. They're twins. Migi, if I could get you

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one thing from the DC universe for
your birthday, I would get you Starfire's

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phone number, and I'll get you
the phone number of Emma Frost because Starfires

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a hofa show and Emma Frost is
a classy ass lady. Alight Jarey talking

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about Starfire that way, dare you, Aji Dunkerley, I would give you

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your very own hit Monkey. It's
a pet and an assassin. Well,

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on the DC side of things,
I would get you Wonder Roman's phone number.

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I think you'll like my gift more, just you know, just having

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the number doesn't like guarantee a date
or anything. You know, Hey,

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I could only open the door for
you, man, You got to go

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the rest of the way. Have
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Last week's question we ask if you could

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be any character from either Marvel or
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you're not a member. That being
said, our first honorable mention goes to

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Matt Lamb, who said, hey, guys, Matt Lamb here, So

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I would definitely be Green Arrow.
I do archering myself, so I love

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the enhanced skill, the athleticism,
the handhand combat training, and the trick

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arrows. My wife her favorite character
is Black Canary. We both love the

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micrawl run and love the fact that
they have a floor shop call Sherwood Florist.

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And also the wedding cake top er
at our wedding was designed to look

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like the one from the cover of
Green Arrow and Black Canary's Wedding Special.

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Heck, Matt Lamb, sounds like
you're already like eighty percent of the way

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to being Green Arrow already, right. You know, you just need to

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take some arts classes and maybe some
gymnastics and you're there, buddy. I

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just need to like spend a couple
of years on a deserted island alone,

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you know, and that's it.
Yep. And then I guess your wife

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can learn how to alter the frequency
of her voice to like shattered glass with

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it or something. I don't know. There's only so far you could get

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without actual superpowers in terms of Black
Canary. But yeah, great answer.

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Our next honorable mention goes to Lizzie
Dyer Arnie, who said, Hey,

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it's Lizzie. When I grow up, I want to be Big Barta.

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Bart is literally the biggest character in
the DC universe. She's a badass warrior

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wife and in some universe's mother.
She's been subverting generals since nineteen seventy one

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and is never afraid to help others. Barta shows that not just in size,

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but also in heart and personality,
bigger is better. Yeah, Big

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bart is an amazing character that we
have not yet featured on this show.

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We actually have plans to include her
in an episode leading up to the Guardians

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of the Galaxy three movie review that
we're doing, so she's coming up soon.

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But Yeah, she's a big she's
a big girl. She's a big

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girl. Yeah, she's probably like
the most popular hero on DC that we

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have yet to do a duel with, so I'm really looking forward to that

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one. Yeah. She's a great
fighter, she's a great lover. She's

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married to Scott Free, I believe. Yeah, mister Miracle in like a

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true sincere romance, Like definitely one
of DC's best couple. So great answer,

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Lizzie. Our next honorable mention goes
to Banjo Cullen, who said,

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Banjo cullin here, I would personally
want to be spine Man. Of course,

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I'd be sad about my uncle Dionel. But dude, the Spider Man

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pals is so cool. Best pals
set. I mean, Superman's pals will

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also cool. I can like fly, but it's a bit of a powered

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and I don't also want to be
Batman otherwise I'll just be a sad lphan.

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So Spider Man it's balance and climb
wools would be awesome anyway, Banjo

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out Hell, Yeah, Spider Man
has the best power set. You know.

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You could swing through the city to
fight gravity by climbing up walls and

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ceilings like you mentioned. But I
think actually his most practical power is probably

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his spider sense. If you Spider
Man, you could go through much of

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life without worrying about getting hit by
a bus or something. Although Peter Parker's

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life does kind of suck regardless,
right, But the powers is where it's

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at. Yeah, I mean,
here's calling Batman a sad our friend,

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and I was like, isn't that
a spider Man is? I mean,

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Spider Man's not moby like Batman.
You know he still jokes around. Batman's

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just a sad loser. Yeah,
a rich one and like poor ass Spider

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Man. Well sometimes Peter Parker has
money, but yeah he's no Bruce Wayne.

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We'll say that. So great answer, Banjo. We want to give

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and discuss them. But the winner
of this week's no Prize is Christian Robeto,

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who said, Hey, this is
Christian Robeto. I'm gonna go with

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Booster Gold. I think he's funny, he's fun loving, He's got all

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the cool superhuman power is like strength, speed, durability, force field,

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energy blasts without going through a freak
accident. He can also time travel,

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which is pretty cool. All this
without having any of the same pressure that

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Superman or Batman does because no one
knows who he is, so if he

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does succeed, it's a win,
So therefore I'm gonna submit Booster Gold.

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Yeah, Booster Gold is famously touted
as the greatest superhero you've never heard of,

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but I think that would actually come
with a lot of benefits. You

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know, you're not gonna be handed
by like the press or the paparazzi or

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anything like that. And he just
has an insanely cool power set. Whether

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it's a force field or a tractor
beam or time travel, it's all awesome.

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Yeah. I was actually surprised when
we got this answer. It was

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very unexpected actually, but Christian absolutely
has a point. There's almost only all

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upside to being Booster Gold. He
is pretty much the everyman of superheroes.

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So congrats to Christian for winning this
week's no Prize. If you the listener,

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want to shut out winning euro no
Prize, stay tuned to later on

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this episode when we'll be asking another
question of the week. And now that

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that's done, odd to the news, all right. This past week we

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learned that Stephen Jun is going to
start in the Marvel Phase five movie The

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Thunderbolts in an as yet undisclosed role. Stephen Jun, of course, is

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a phenomenal actor for those of you
who may not know. He was in

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the Walking Dead television series. He
does the voice of Invincible in the Invincible

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television series on Amazon. He recently
got nominated for an oscar for his role

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in a movie called Minari, and
he was also in the recent movie Nope,

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Right, Yeah, that's where I've
seen him last. He's a great

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up and coming actor, although I
feel like he's been up and coming for

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almost a decade now, so it's
really nice to see him finally get his

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due with a sizeable live action part
in a Marvel movie. I think the

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oscar is more a sign than right
than getting a Marvel role. I mean,

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an oscar is one thing that's fine, sure Marvel movie is forever a

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role in a Marvel movie for sure. According to Deadline, whatever role Stephen

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Young is going to play the Thunderbolts
will likely be a role that he'll carry

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forward in future films of the MCU. So it seems like he's not going

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to be a villain, because a
lot of Marble villains are kind of one

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and done. Possibly not now,
it is rumored that the villain of the

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Thunderbolts movie is going to be the
Centry, who is a ridiculously overpowered character

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in Marvel. He's kind of like
Superman, but way stronger. The going

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rumor is that the contest of Valentina
Aligra Dafontaine has something to do with creating

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the Century as part of an effort
to recreate the super Soldier program, and

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it gets out of hand, and
so she has to put together the Thunderbolts

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team to help stop the Centry,
which sounds very similar to the original plot

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of the Suicide Squad movie, where
the Suicide Squad was tasked with taking down

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Black Adam. Well, no,
that wasn't the original idea for the first

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Suicide Squad movie. It was the
idea for Doug Lyman's Suicide Squad film specifically.

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Oh all right, either way,
it's a pretty solid concept. I

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would love to see that play out
on screen if that happens. Stephen Young

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would be an interesting choice to play
the Century. But if I had to

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put my money on anyone, I
think it would be Amadeus cho Yeah.

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He's Hulk related, right, I
don't know much about him. Yeah,

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Amadeus Chow is a ally of Bruce
Banners. He's another scientist, like the

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seventh smartest person in the world,
and he developed a way to siphon off

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radiation from the Hulk using nanites in
an effort to hear one of the Hulk's

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afflictions, and he ended up getting
bombarded with the Hulk's powers himself, becoming

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the character known as the Totally Awesome
Hulk. We've seen amadeus Cho's mother up

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here in the MCU in a previous
film, Avenger's Age of Ultron. She

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was the Korean scientist who was an
associate of Tony Starks and helped Ultron against

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her will create the Android vision.
Oh no way, that's cool. So

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Stephen, you would be playing her
son, possibly aged up due to the

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blip or something like that, but
yeah, I think you'd be a great

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addition to the MCU if he ends
up being someone who also figures out how

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to recreate the Hulk's abilities. That's
possibly how we might see Harrison Ford get

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his Red Hulk powers. Since we
know that Harrison Ford is playing General Thunderbolt

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Ross or actually President Thunderbolt Ross in
the Thunderbolts film. I'm like really looking

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forward to this movie as much of
a rip off as Sounds of Doug Lyman's

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suicide Squad. It's still something I'm
excited to see. Yeah, it should

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be a lot of fun. It
should be everything that the first Suicide Squad

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movie wasn't. I was going to
say that the Suicide Squad should be,

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but you know, James Gunns,
the Suicide Squad film was pretty much that.

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Yeah, that was fantastic. The
Thunderbolts film comes out next year,

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in the middle of the summer,
on July twenty sixth, but we should

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be getting some kind of report within
the next few months of exactly who Steven

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Jung is playing. Yeah, considering
this film is going to have characters like

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Century and maybe Hulk and Red Hulk
and Wicher Soldier and all of those badasses,

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the film is going to have a
ton of action. And that brings

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all the news for this episode,
so let's go ahead and get onto our

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main event, where we discuss the
latest DC animated film, Legion of Superheroes.

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All Right, the Legion of Superheroes
is DC's latest direct to video animated

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film and the sixth film and the
Tomorrow Verse DC animated film continuity that began

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with Superman Man of Tomorrow. This
film has direct ties to the second film

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and the Tomorrow Verse Justice Society World
War Two, which briefly deals with Superman

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and the Flash battling Brainiac. We
reviewed that film. It sucked, and

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honestly, I can't say Legion of
Superheroes was much better. Unfortunately, normally

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we include a spoiler warning at the
top of our reviews for films we recommend

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watching, but with this film,
I'm going to say that, like unless

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you're a big Supergirl or a Legion
of Superheroes fan, you could probably skip

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this film. And even then Supergirl
and Legion fans are most likely going to

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be pretty disappointed. Well maybe not
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Yeah, we haven't done too many
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Legion of superhero characters, and shame
on me for that, because there's some

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really cool characters and I hope to
eventually do them down the line and lead

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up probably to some kind of team
dual episode with the Legion team. That

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would be fun. Yeah. Now, after the success of Batman, DeLong,

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Halloween, and Green Lantern Be Where
My Power, I thought, based

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on how good the trailers looked for
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the upswing after it struggled at the
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and Justice Society World War Two.
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so far have had fantastic premises and
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failed to deliver on that, including
Legion of Superheroes, which is something of

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a misnomer considering it has very little
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Like, I was actually really disheartened
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this film, well at least the
primary characters, because we have this like

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b team of Legionnaires that are semi
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of characters on the Legion of Superheroes, but we didn't really get to see

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the main players here, like Saturn
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Those founding members really only make a
brief appearance. You're right, the Legion

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of Superheroes like easily has the largest
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Pretty Trude's The X Men. Yeah, exactly. It's massive. So

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I'm really confused as to why they
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doing a Legion of Superheroes film without
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it's because they're setting up their own
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this really focuses on, you know, building the Superman portion of that universe.

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But I think they named this film
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That's really weird because I figure,
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any character with like some brand recognition
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would be interested in seeing the film. Well, look at Justice Society World

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War Two. How much cloud does
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Certainly not more than Wonder Woman or
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of that movie. A lot of
weird choices here, totally, it's like,

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yeah, what's going on now?
I mentioned that the premises of each

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of the Tomorrow Worst films has been
really good, and this one is no

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exception. The premise of this film
is that Supergirl is struggling to adapt to

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Earth culture after the destruction of Krypton, so Superman takes her to the thirty

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first century, where she can train
with fellow teen heroes in the Legion of

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Superheroes in a futuristic society more akin
to her life on Krypton. While on

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the team, she comes into conflict
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villain from one thousand years prior now. In certain media, Brainiac is often

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involved with, if not directly responsible
for the destruction of Krypton, such as

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Superman, the animated series Smallville,
Krypton, and, most recently and successfully

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Injustice too, the ladder of which
was shown to be very traumatic for a

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Supergirl witnessed Brainiac's invasion of her homeworld
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It's established in the Legion of Superheroes
film, however, that in the Tomorrow

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Verse, Krypton was destroyed when its
red sun rao went super nova, which

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is a take on Krypton's destruction that
we've also seen in various media, such

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as the movie Superman Returns. I
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it's probably like the best explanation for
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it was a huge mistake in this
film to not have Brainiac responsible for Krypton's

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destruction and have Supergirl be witnessed to
it, because it would have been a

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much better reason for Supergirl's inherent initial
distrust of Brainiac, you know, rather

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than what we got with Superman telling
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named Brainiac, right, because you
know, the fight against Brainiac was a

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really brief scene from Justice Society World
War Two where the Flash and Superman teamed

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up for the first time. That
fight was really over in a matter of

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less than a minute and really didn't
feel like it had a large enough bearing

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to war into this type of reaction
from Supergirl. Yeah, if they were

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planning on using the Justice Society film
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like, they could not have done
a worse job. Like they really set

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themselves up for failure because Brainiac was
taken out so easily in the Justice Society

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movie. Really it was just the
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him and it was done right.
And in our review of that movie,

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Ed commented how it seems so quick
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Yeah, so dumb. I really
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these Tomorrow vers films, Like in
Green Lantern either were like, oh yeah,

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the Justice League is off world,
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like what is that threat? And
here it's like, oh yeah, the

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Legion of Superheroes are off world fighting
this huge threat. It's like, why

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aren't we seeing that? And we
never get to see the introduction between the

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Legion and Superman was served as a
big backdrop to this story. Yeah,

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I mean screen riders are often told
that they should show, not tell,

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like, instead of having a character
say that they're hungry, you like show

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a character looking down at his stomach
as it growls and he's clutching it,

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you know, something like that.
I hate that the tarro versta so much

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telling and not showing. They really
need to fix that in the future going

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forward. But back to Brainiac destroying
Krypton. How did the writers miss that

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It's way more interesting for Supergirl to
fall in love with the descendant of the

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being that committed genocide on her people
and planet than what we got here.

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Like, that's a way more powerful
story of forgiveness and overcoming grief, and

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it practically writes itself absolutely that would
have been better. Like the failure to

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grasp that low hanging fruit is the
biggest sin of the filmmakers for this film,

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but it's not their only one.
For DC, story and theme are

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the absolute key to success, and
the writing on Legion of Superheroes is so

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embarrassingly bad and confusing, from its
lackluster mystery and problematic romance to its pointless

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cameos and too little, too late
stakes that I probably would have just turned

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the movie off if I didn't have
to review it, which hurts me to

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say it hurts me like I love
DC. I'm not easily shamed by it,

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like I'm a total DC apologist.
The main reason I didn't turn the

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movie off, though, was because
of how great it looked, from the

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action and the backgrounds, to the
character designs, and most notably, the

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animated facial performances. My good gosh, it was a sight to behold.

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We've seen Supergirl and the Legionnaire's an
animated form before, but this is hands

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down the best they have ever looked. And as a fan of the comics,

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it is so cool to see these
characters come to life. The animation

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on this film was much better than
previous iterations. I think even better than

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be Where My Power. I think
it was on par with Batman de Long

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Halloween. Although it wasn't nearly a
stylistic it was still a lot of fun

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to watch. Yeah, the Tomorrow
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and better. It's the character designs, Yeah, they're just very unique and

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well done. Absolutely now. For
as good as the characters looked, I

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also thought their voice performances were almost
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into that. In our character Breakdown. Now. Supergirl aka car Zorelle was

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voiced by Meg Donnelly, who you're
probably only familiar with if you have young

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daughters like me who are fans of
Disney's Zombies film franchise, which is like

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if Twilight meets high school musical.
Meg Donnelly is an admittedly decent actress,

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and I thought she gave a great
performance as Supergirl, so much so that

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if you told me tomorrow that she
was cast as Supergirl for the upcoming movie,

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like, I wouldn't even be angry
at all. James Gunns movie,

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Yeah, Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow. Now. Supergirl's ark in this film

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revolves around coming to terms with the
life she lost on Krypton, specifically both

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the opportunity to make her mother proud
and the advanced technology. But when we

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see her early on confront a guy
upset that she destroyed his home in this

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battle with Solomon Grundy about how he
should just rebuild it with robots, she

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comes across as more let them Eat
Cake entitled than endearing as a character,

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like it's really hard to pity her
despite her loss, and it was hard

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to take her trouble seriously when she
forgot about them so quickly when she met

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pretty boy Monelle in the future.
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toward collateral damage and her like immediate
infatuation with Monelle and just her real petty

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attitude to Brainiac five, she came
off as kind of a dick and an

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really unlikable protagonist in this movie for
the first half. Yeah, she was

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kind of like a bully. Yeah. And I know that, you know,

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leaves space for the protagonist to grow
into a better person, but you

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got to give us some more redeeming
qualities up front or in order for us

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to like enjoy watching this person go
on that journey exactly now. She stayed

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in the future because of Monelle.
Yeah, didn't pursue any kind of relationship

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with him, because she became so
obsessed and competitive with Brainiac five. So

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when I saw her falling for Brainiac
five, I couldn't help but feel like

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it was the most egregious example of
negging I've ever seen, and she feel

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for it. Yeah, Like,
even though there's precedence for Brainiac five and

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Supergirl's romantic relationship in the comics,
it just felt weird and wrong in this

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movie for me, especially after Supergirl
essentially chose Brainiac five over her own mother

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after interfacing with the Miracle Machine at
the end of the movie. Well,

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it was implied that she couldn't bring
her mother back without destroying reality. Although

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that's all a little bit unclear.
You're right, Yeah, Brainiac was like,

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like, don't bring back Crypton.
You're going to break reality. And

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I'm like why what, Like,
that's not how the Miracle Machine works in

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the comics. I didn't quite get
it. It was nice that Supergirl got

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one last moment to say goodbye to
her mother and let her know that,

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you know, she's making her proud
by doing the protective work they always dreamed

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of doing together on Crypton. But
the climax was so confusing that it was

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really hard to appreciate that moment.
Yeah, they were like astral projections of

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themselves at one point. It was
kind of hard to tell what was real

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and what was like a dream machine
induced fantasy type thing. Yeah, one

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moment you see like Brainiac five get
like dusted. I was like, yeah,

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what it was like he was there
in spirit somehow, but he was

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also still there physically. It was
very bizarre. It was a very bizarre

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moment. I'm just really curious to
see, like how that was scripted,

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because I guarantee you that like probably
made no sense on the page, because

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it made even less sense on screen. Yeah, the animators were like,

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wait, wait, am I drawing
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like this weird astral version of the
character that's communicating with other people. The

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director was just like yes, yeah. Moving on to Brainiac five, he

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was voiced by Harry Schum, Junior
of Glee Fame. I guess I've never

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seen Glee, but I'm not surprised
Schum was on the show because his voice

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is great, and I thought he
gave a convincing brainiac performance, just like

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very robotic but with a touch of
emotion and humanity to it. Yeah,

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he played the part of the outcast
really well. In the movie, we

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learned that Brainiac five hacked his way
onto the Legion Academy roster in order to

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steal the Miracle Machine before other Brainiacs, as they wanted to give it to

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the mysterious Dark Circle secret criminal organization. Proud of his intellects, yet scorned

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because of his connection to Superman's adversary, Brainiac five wanted to prove that he

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was an individual and not doomed to
the same fate as other Brainiac clones.

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He was the only one smart enough
to recognize the Dark Circle's existence and mission

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to hack the Legion Vault, yet
he knew no one would believe or trust

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him until Supergirl did. It's a
decent arc, and the character is essentially

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the antagonist for the first half of
the film, as he and Supergirl compete

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in the Academy. His arrogant and
logical characterization is true to the comics,

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and he's probably the most faithfully adapted
main character in the film. So I

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have very little qualms with him.
I thought they did a great job with

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Brainiac five. I still think it's
really surprising how he ended up winning Supergirl's

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affections without even trying. When they
started like growing close to each other,

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both me and my wife were like, bullshit, if you're like an arrogant

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nerd, the girls will come.
Yeah, girls are really impressed when you

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fight them. Really well, jeez, what a horrible lesson to like teach

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kids with these cartoons. Moving on
to Brainiac five's namesake, though Brainiac I

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have a ton of qualms with Brainiac, Like, Yeah, what the hell

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was this? I love Brainiac as
a villain, but it's so hard for

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writers to get him right. Like
in this film, Brainiac has a god

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complex and considers himself the savior of
the universe. Well, he believed that

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he was the only one in the
universe smart enough to take on the dangers

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that are coming in the future.
But I'd actually think that the Brainiac from

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the comics would never believe that,
Like, he's more interested in valuable information,

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he's not trying to save anybody less, like the least interesting take on

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Brainiac I've ever heard of. I
can't say I was surprised that Brainiac ended

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up being the main villain, but
I was very surprised that the writers decided

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to have him incorporate Brainiacs two through
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that I was going to go bad, And it went so embarrassingly bad,

402
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.240
so embarrassingly fast. I'd be crying
if I wasn't laughing at how stupid it

403
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.359
was. That shit had me rolling
in the aisles when like all of a

404
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.799
sudden, his body became like Quatteau
from a total recall, right, and

405
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:41.480
started fighting against itself. There was
no reason why the filmmakers couldn't just give

406
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.880
Brainiac like a robotic body or a
fully cloned body, right, and instead

407
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:51.079
chose to make him this weird composite
of previous brainiacs, all with apparently their

408
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:55.920
own mind still residing within him,
like a thousand years of planning and secretly

409
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.440
controlling the Dark Circle, only for
it all to be undone in an instant,

410
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.480
like when Anac literally tore his body
in half, killing himself because he

411
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.960
was like suddenly unable to control the
clones he attached to his body. It

412
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.680
was so anti climactic, an absurd, and deos ex machina. I can

413
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.839
not believe they released the film.
Honestly. Yeah, if I was one

414
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.839
of the members of the Black Circle
and I witnessed that, I would have

415
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.440
been so fucking disappointed in myself for
like putting all of my faith and energy

416
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.519
into this fucking dumbass. Basically,
like, did the heroes really even need

417
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:33.720
to save the day considering that these
brainiac characters would have been fighting over this

418
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.440
power, likely regardless out of their
own arrogance, Right, It's like Brainiac

419
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.240
did the work for them. It's
so dumb. Moving on to the other

420
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:48.319
villain Monnel Surprise villain Mino's history is
so complicated in the comics, I thought

421
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.519
making him an admirer of Kryptonian culture
in this film was an adequate interpretation of

422
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:59.359
the character, though using the admiration
as motivation to betray the Legion didn't quite

423
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.680
make sense to me. Like,
we get it, Krypton was orderly and

424
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.440
advanced, but why would allowing Brainiac
to become a god restore the pride of

425
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:12.079
Krypton quote unquote he was wrong and
Superhowl like told him that blatantly. Monell

426
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:18.279
is a doximite, deximite, deximite. Yeah, and they're similar to Kryptonians,

427
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.359
Is that correct? Yes? Yeah, their planet is very similar to

428
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.720
Kryptona orbits a red sun. They
are weak to lead though, they're kind

429
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.640
of like opposite Kryptonians, and they're
actually very xenophobic, Like they very rarely

430
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.920
leave their planet so most of the
time they're not like absorbing solar radiation to

431
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:40.240
even gain superpowers. Has Monell ever
betrayed the team in the history of the

432
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.519
Legion, Not that I know of, No, so I think it was

433
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.519
really lame for Monell fans. Then, Yeah, Yeah, very lame.

434
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:51.079
I mean, like in some iterations
of the Legion of Superheroes, Modelo was

435
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.359
such a heroic figure that he inspired
the formation of the team. Like sometimes

436
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.400
it's Superman or Superboy, but even
in some iterations it's Monel. He's that

437
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.920
integral to the team, he's been
their leader. I have no idea why

438
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.359
they would choose to make him the
villain, like the final villain. Like

439
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.799
he survived longer than Brainiac did,
right, and when he was defeated,

440
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.359
the threat was finally over, right, because it seemed like he was going

441
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.599
to carry on the work of the
Dark Circle even after Brainiac's death. Right,

442
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.240
Yeah, he was trying to get
Supergirl to join him. Just bad

443
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.240
weird writing throughout the whole film,
so much so that like I don't even

444
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.400
have too many other characters to go
over, Like I just have like quick

445
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.319
recaps of all the other Legionnaires.
There's don Star, who's one of my

446
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.400
favorite Legionnaires in the comics. I
liked her inclusion here, though I didn't

447
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.200
love the energy wings like in the
comics, she has actual wings. Oh

448
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.160
interesting, Does she still have like
the super tracking ability in the cox?

449
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.519
Yeah, she could track anyone across
the universe. It's pretty cool. I

450
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.559
wonder why she didn't do that like
earlier. I guess the cadets didn't really

451
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.880
know that the legion was missing,
But it's kind of strange that the head

452
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.119
Legionnaires didn't like ask her for her
help earlier. Right, yeah, totally,

453
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.119
And that raises a weird issue,
like what were the Legionnaires doing?

454
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.640
They were off in space, but
they were gone for such a long time,

455
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.759
and then all of a sudden they
just happened to be found in this

456
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.240
system and then they came back like
lickety split, Like what the hell was

457
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:15.160
going on there? Some offscreen bullshit
who's like, oh, we'll only arrive

458
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.759
when it's convenient for the story exactly
even then barely. We'll only arrive if

459
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.200
we're a pointless cameo and that's all
you're getting from us. Yeah, and

460
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:28.799
moving gone to triplicate girl. I
can't decide if it was cheap or clever

461
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.759
that they killed one of her duplicates. Like I thought that like really raised

462
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.640
the stakes, like, oh shit, the dark circles like killing members of

463
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:38.680
the academy off. But then I
was like, nope, we lied.

464
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:44.480
Well. I was super confused during
Triplicate Girls fight against them as to why

465
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.440
she didn't just replicate herself to aid
in the battle, and then it all

466
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.279
made sense later when it turned out
that it was actually a replicate that died.

467
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.359
Arms fall Off Boy was in this
movie, and I'm pretty sure he

468
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.880
was only included because of the suicide
squad. I don't know. He was

469
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.000
pretty funny, though. I liked
when they were introducing him. That was

470
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:06.400
actually probably my favorite part of the
movie was the legionnaire introductions because they all

471
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.000
seemed like really fucking lame and they're
like, this is arms fall Off Boy

472
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.240
and like his arm just falls off, like it doesn't do anything, and

473
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:20.880
he's like and sometimes they even stay
on and supergirls like who yep. And

474
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.720
then at the end he was like, wait, we can change our names.

475
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.839
Then I want to be arms fall
off man. He was manny better.

476
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.240
Yeah, there was Invisible Kid,
who I'm pretty sure was just included

477
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.640
so they could set up like it
is he naked joke, that's the only

478
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.480
reason. Well, he did some
covert stuff, so although I guess he

479
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.079
wasn't really needed when you had Phantom
Girl who did more of the heavy lifting

480
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.599
in terms of you know, rescuing
the captured Legionnaires exactly. Yeah, she

481
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.079
was pretty integral to like the whole
final battle which Keppy said about bouncing Boy

482
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.759
really like he was just in the
movie and that's it. Yeah, he

483
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.000
bounced a few times there you go. Of course, we also had timber

484
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.359
Wolf, Chemical Kink, and Shadow
Lass in there for some reason, a

485
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.519
sort of replacements for Kasmcboy, sat
and Girl and Lightning Glad as we mentioned

486
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.519
earlier. Not entirely clear why they
decided to go that direction, but it

487
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.880
was a mistake. What was the
name of the wolverine knockoff, Timberwolf?

488
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.639
Timberwolf. What a Wolverine knockoff?
That guy was, Holy shit, looked

489
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.119
just like them, had basically the
exact same powers. I think for a

490
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.519
while we were considering doing a duel
between Timberwolf and Wolf Spain from the New

491
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.679
Mutants. Who knows, Maybe we'll
still do that down the line, Yeah

492
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.719
maybe. I mean, it would
be nice to get to some of the

493
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.000
Legionnaires, regardless of how lame they
are. There's some cool Legionnaires dude,

494
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:43.039
like Kasmic Boy, like Ultra Boy, Starboy, sat and Girl. They're

495
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.519
really cool. I'll believe it when
I hear it. Someday, someday you

496
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:51.719
will. Moving on to the story
highlights, the film begins on Krypton with

497
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.119
Kara and her mother Alura, training
together. Alura reveals that Kara has been

498
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:02.199
accepted to Krypton's military guild before their
Red Sun rap becomes unstable, igniting Krypton's

499
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:07.440
atmosphere and causing planet wide earthquakes.
Before Alura can fully explain what's going on,

500
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.199
she puts her daughter in one of
the working escape pods out of thousands

501
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.159
that failed to activate, and Kara
is jettisoned from Krypton before it explodes.

502
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.239
Her ship is knocked off course,
and she arrives on Earth decades after her

503
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.760
cousin kel L who grew to be
Superman. It seems like Alura had a

504
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.559
much more selfless plan to save people
in lead up to the upcoming destruction of

505
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:37.159
Crypton. Jorrell obviously told Alura about
his theories of what was to come,

506
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.440
but Jarrell only built a ship for
one person, his son, whereas Alura

507
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.960
built ships were like the entire city
of Argo. Now a lot of them

508
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.760
didn't work, but like her plan
was much better. I think Jarrell was

509
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.639
just probably more practical and knew that
he couldn't do that, whereas she,

510
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.639
I guess she tried. Yeah,
Jorrell didn't even try, and he probably

511
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.639
knew about this longer. He probably
could have saved a whole lot more people

512
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:06.599
than just his son. If what
stop Batman thing, daral them look bad.

513
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:07.400
I feel like I was like,
holy shit, look at all these

514
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.320
other pods that could have gone out, Like Alura seemed like way better at

515
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.760
this rescue mission thing than Jorel did. And she's lucky she got one of

516
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.920
them to work. Okay, she's
no scientist now. Despite struggling to adjust

517
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.960
to life on Earth, Kara adopts
the mantle of Supergirl and helps her cousin

518
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:29.800
stop Solomon Grundy in Metropolis before noticing
suspicious characters members of the Dark Circle in

519
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:34.840
a nearby Ali. She overhears Batman
commented to Superman that she's not as trained

520
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.800
or as careful as her cousin,
and she flies off offended. Now,

521
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.079
what did the Dark Circle have anything
to do with this whole scene? They

522
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.320
were trying to, I guess,
get Solomon Grundy to kill Superman for them,

523
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.639
so it was easier for them to
get to Brainiac. I have no

524
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.199
idea. That's a total guest and
I could totally be wrong. It seems

525
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.840
like they were able to get to
Brainiac just fine. I mean it was

526
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.960
Batman who stopped them, right,
But Superman didn't have anything to do with

527
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:07.519
that anyway, So so I don't
understand why they employed Solomon Grundy. Yeah,

528
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.239
this was like very uncharacteristic for Solomon
Grundy as well, Like even using

529
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.480
the Glazer rifle to begin with,
it was like, what, what are

530
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.039
they like? Good thing we didn't
use that in the dual episode against word

531
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.440
Wolf Finite. If I would have
known that, I would have just been

532
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.960
packing in that dual episode. Really, it was just a way to show

533
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.280
that the Dark Circle, you know, has been around for a thousand years.

534
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.559
I think it seemed totally unnecessary to
their plot at large. It was,

535
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.000
It absolutely was. What's interesting is
that we never actually see the Dark

536
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:43.320
Circle get ahold of Brainiac body.
You know, we saw an attempt that

537
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.039
was stopped by Batman, but you
would think that if Batman stopped him it

538
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.119
would change the future, so that
they never did retrieve his head. Yeah,

539
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.920
that made no sense, Like whatsoever
that led nowhere. I thought we

540
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:58.519
were going to keep like flashing back
to the past and maybe see like the

541
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.920
Dark Circle becomes successful. But no, as far as we know, we

542
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:06.639
didn't see them be successful once again. Offscreen bullshit. Yeah. Now,

543
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.960
at the Kent Farm in Smallville,
Supergirl and Superman have a heart to heart

544
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.760
conversation. Superman uses a time bubble
given to him by the Legion of Superheroes

545
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.039
to open a portal to the future, where he introduces Supergirl to the advanced

546
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.800
world of the thirty first century and
the Legion of Superheroes. Meanwhile, in

547
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.840
the twenty first century, Batman stops
the Dark Circle from stealing Brainiac's head or

548
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.400
whatever they were trying to do.
After meeting Gamonell, Supergirl agrees to stay

549
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.559
in the thirty first century and train
with the Legion Academy. After meeting her

550
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:44.719
roommate Don Star, Supergirl mistakes fellow
Legion cadet Brainiac five for her cousin's villain,

551
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.840
and the two fights they are reprimanded
by the acting heads of the Legion,

552
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.440
Timberwolf, Chemical King, and Shadow
Lasts. Before being asked to leave,

553
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:58.320
Brainiac five listens in secret to the
Legionnaires in charge talk about how they're

554
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.559
not sure how Brainiac five made to
enter the Academy and how they're concerned that

555
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.880
they're unable to communicate with the rest
of the Legion off world. I did

556
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.719
think that the fight between Brainiac five
and Supergirl was pretty cool. It's always

557
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.199
kind of neat to see how Brainiac
five uses his technology to like go toe

558
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.920
to toe with someone as powerful as
Supergirl, as Superman. It was pretty

559
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.719
interesting how he used his like kinetic
force field that would get stronger the more

560
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:29.119
she attacked it, and then Supergirl
turned that around on him by solidifying it

561
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.880
so much that it stuck into the
ground, and then she launched him from

562
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.760
the ground, right, It's pretty
interesting. It really seemed though that the

563
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.559
movie was trying to sew seeds of
distrust against Brainiac five, But I wasn't

564
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:44.159
having that from the get go because
I was like, Brainiac five is a

565
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.039
good guy, you know, right, So I was just waiting for the

566
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.199
other shoot to drop to find out, like who we really weren't supposed to

567
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.960
trust. To be fair, I
didn't know it was Monell until later.

568
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:58.079
I knew it was going to be
him, honestly, from the artwork that

569
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.480
they used on the back cover for
this movie. It has Supergirl like holding

570
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:06.079
back Monel from fighting Brainiac five,
and this whole movie, I was like

571
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.360
waiting for those two characters to come
to blows. So I kind of realized

572
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.000
that Yamnell is probably going to be
the one to betray them. Interesting way

573
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:17.519
to spoil it DC now, Monell
introduces Kara to the rest of the Academy

574
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.559
cadets Bouncing Boy, Invisible Kid,
Triplicate Girl, and Arms fall Off Boy.

575
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:28.920
As Supergirl learns and trains at the
Academy, she bitterly competes with Brainiac

576
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.360
five, though after a drone their
building goes rogue. They eventually begin to

577
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:37.760
grasp that they work better together as
a team. After hearing from Don Star

578
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.760
how no one likes Brainiac five and
feels he doesn't belong, Supergirl begins to

579
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.480
pity him. Now. While Triplicate
Girl is out at night looking for their

580
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.840
class pet prote she's attacked and killed
by members of the Dark Circle. Supergirl

581
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.920
is also out at night and spots
Brainiac five outside the Legion Vault, where

582
00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:00.440
she attempts to apologize to him.
When they spot Triplicate Girl dead, Brainiac

583
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.360
five is immediately attacked and subdued by
the three Legionnaires in charge, who reveal

584
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:09.440
that Brainiac five hacked his way into
Legion academy and planted a virus that's preventing

585
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.760
them from communicating with the rest of
the Legion. Accused of killing Triplicate Girl,

586
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.239
Brainiac five confesses to the hacking,
but not the killing, whom he

587
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.559
blames on the Dark Circle before being
imprisoned. Now, I noticed he doesn't

588
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.599
deny halting communication between the Legion out
in space and the Legion headquarters, So

589
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.559
I'm still in clear as to who
was responsible for that. Well, it

590
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.679
would have made stealing the machine easier
for him, so he had reason to

591
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.079
do it, but also would have
made like tackling the Dark Circle with the

592
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.840
small group that the Legion had more
difficult. But he was so arrogant that

593
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.920
he probably didn't think that he would
need their help. Yeah. Maybe.

594
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:50.519
A Supergirl, having seen glimpses of
the Dark Circle in the thirty first century,

595
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.679
sneaks to Brainiac five's holding cell,
where she learns from him that he

596
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:59.400
cheated his way into the academy to
prevent his family from stealing the Miracle Machine

597
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:04.119
from the Legion and Vault. Believing
the Dark Circle is already at Legion headquarters,

598
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.320
Supergirl frees Brainiac and they head to
the Vault, where they meet Manell,

599
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.039
who joins them. And this is
where I was like, oh,

600
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.800
yeah, he's a bad guy.
Yeah. Once inside the Vault, Supergirl

601
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:20.199
and Monell help neutralize its security drones
as Brainiac five deciphers the code to access

602
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.199
the Miracle Machine, at which point
Minel reveals himself as a traitor allied with

603
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:30.079
a Dark Circle and stabs Supergirl with
the Kryptonite Dagger. With the Vault unlocked,

604
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.519
the Dark Circle attacks the Legion headquarters
and brings everyone down. At that

605
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.239
moment, the original Brainiac fused with
the bodies of Brainiac's two through four,

606
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:44.800
reveals himself as the leader of the
Dark Circle, who successfully captured and restored

607
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:50.199
him one thousand years ago. Brainiac
five manages to escape with Supergirl and heals

608
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:54.239
her of her kryptonite wound. Allegedly, Brainiac five was the only one smart

609
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.280
enough to get in, and it
turned out all along that they used him

610
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.239
in order to break in, right, So you have this instance of where

611
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:06.800
the main motivation of one of the
primary characters is completely pointless. Like if

612
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.440
he didn't have that motivation, there
would have been no movie essentially, right,

613
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:12.760
It's true, like Fear is the
only one who could open it,

614
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.719
and like not even Brainiac apparently could, even though he considers himself to be

615
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.840
the smartest being in the universe.
Then, yeah, if you would have

616
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.800
just like not done anything, the
Black Circle's plan would have never come to

617
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:28.599
fruition. Yeah, So it's like
this weird circular logic and it doesn't really

618
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.400
hold up the plot very well.
No, Yeah, like it should have

619
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.599
been made clear that, like Brainiac
could have unlocked the coat if you wanted

620
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.880
to, just that Brainiac five did
it before him. Yeah. Phantom Girl

621
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:44.079
helps Brainiac five and Supergirl hide from
the Dark Circle and reveals that all of

622
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.519
the Cadets are alive, including two
duplicates of Triplicate Girl, but are in

623
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.280
prison. Phantom Girl rescues the other
cadets and together they orchestrate a plan to

624
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:57.480
bring down the Dark Circle and stop
Brainiac. While the Cadets fend off the

625
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:02.039
Dark Circle and Monell, Supergirl Brainiac
five confront Brainiac at the Miracle Machine,

626
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:07.000
which has been activated, with Supergirl
and Brainiac five unable to reach Brainiac.

627
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:14.079
Brainiac five instead initiates a rebellion amongst
Brainiac's two through four, who begin to

628
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.559
emerge from Brainiac's body and try to
gain control of the Miracle Machine. To

629
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:23.599
prevent this from happening, Brainiac rips
himself apart. Still so dumb, So

630
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.000
dumb? Can you tell me more
about what was happening? With what energy

631
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.440
Brainiac was spreading across the universe.
It was like this reality warping energy.

632
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:37.760
Yeah. Yeah, he was essentially
just rewriting creation in his own image.

633
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.159
I guess you could say the Miracle
Machine turns thought into reality. It's sort

634
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.239
of like a super green lantern rank. It was made by the Controllers,

635
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.480
who were an offshoot of the Guardians
on oa In It's like a super green

636
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.039
lantern rank that just turns thought into
reality. Like I said, But the

637
00:44:54.079 --> 00:45:00.880
insinuation here was that in rewriting reality, you're destroying it. She was rewriting

638
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.960
it so much that it was going
to break or something. I have no

639
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:09.400
idea. Honestly, it makes me
wonder if Kara couldn't just rewrite reality to

640
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.480
be exactly as it was, but
with Crypton or her mom still around,

641
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.039
what the issue with that would be
Yeah, that's the big question. I

642
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:21.639
have no idea. That left me
like dumbfounded. It seemed like if she

643
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.000
could have used the machine correctly,
everything could have worked out for her,

644
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.440
but she chose not to because Brainiac
five told her it would break reality.

645
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.519
Yeah, but then she could just
rewrite it, like, I don't get

646
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:37.679
it exactly hell happened exactly? Yeah. Supergirl takes control of the Miracle Machine

647
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.639
to undo changes to reality that Brainiac
had caused. Realizing she could bring back

648
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.320
Crypton and her mother in the process, Brainiac five convinces her to instead restore

649
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.280
reality to what it was to prevent
it from breaking, and to send the

650
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.599
Miracle Machine to a different reality.
At least I think that's what happened.

651
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.440
I'm not sure why it needed to
be sent to a new reality at all.

652
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.280
If she sent it to a new
reality, did she destroy that reality?

653
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:06.440
And what reality did she send it
to? I don't know if any

654
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.639
realities were destroyed. I think Brainiac's
reality was just like undone. But why

655
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:15.960
she needed to send it to another
reality? Does that mean like another Earth

656
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.320
like Earth three or something like that. I don't know. What are the

657
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.880
consequences to that reality exactly exactly.
In the comics, the Miracle Machine was

658
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.519
supposed to be like also a precursor
to New God Tech, which might have

659
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.079
something to do with the post credit
scene. I'm not entirely sure. We'll

660
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.280
see, I guess now. As
the Cadets gained the upper hand against the

661
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.719
Dark Circle, Manell attempts to retreat, only to be confronted by Supergirl,

662
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:45.920
who defeats him. Just as the
rest of the legion returns. Brainiac five

663
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.800
and Supergirl share a kiss and the
credits role. In a post credit scene,

664
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.920
Supergirl introduces Brainiac five to Superman as
her boyfriend through a time bubble.

665
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:01.320
When the bubble closes, Superman and
Batman wax cryptic about some threat before gazing

666
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.960
upon a lava pit in the middle
of a city and are zapped by a

667
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.719
massive laser from space before vanishing and
a lava pit now in their stead.

668
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.679
Oh, they're setting up some kind
of fight with the apocalypse. Maybe,

669
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.840
Like the lava pit was not that
big, Like it was the size of

670
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.599
like five school buses, and then
when they got zapped, that was only

671
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.320
as big as like a small sofa. I don't know if that was like

672
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.000
a Zada beam that hit them,
but they essentially like disintegrated. They weren't

673
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.880
Omega beams. No, it was
a blue beam from space. Oh.

674
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:39.119
Interesting, Now we've established Zeta beams
in this universe already, so that is

675
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.679
possibly what happened here. Yeah,
it seems unlikely that they would go the

676
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.239
route of apocalypse, considering that the
battle against dark Side was the main narrative

677
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.239
behind the previous DC animated universe,
Right, so like, why re tread

678
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:59.039
that old territory. Yeah. Considering
the fact that the next Tomorrowver's film is

679
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.480
going to be the first Justice League
film, and it's going to be called

680
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:07.679
Justice League War World, I imagine
they're going a Mongol route rather than a

681
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.679
dark Side route. Oh that'll be
cool. I've been wanting to do a

682
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:14.480
dual episode between Mongol and a Nihilist
for a while, so when that movie

683
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:15.599
comes out, that might be a
good time to do that. Oh that's

684
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.599
a good matchup. Yeah, not
bad at all, But ultimately that does

685
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.559
it for this movie, I thought. You know, even though it's visually

686
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:30.800
striking, the poorly written films suffers
from numerous story issues that will disappoint fans

687
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.800
and leave casual viewers scratching their heads. I'm rating two out of five stars,

688
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.440
which matches our same rating for Justice
Society World War Two. I thought

689
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.159
this was equally as bad, and
for tomatoes, I'm giving it a rotten

690
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:50.679
tomato. I don't know if I
necessarily would have gone that harsh, because

691
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.719
I do think that I liked this
film a little bit more than Justice Society

692
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.519
World War Two. I think the
visuals were a little bit better, and

693
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:02.360
the story, while largely nonsensical,
held up just a little bit better than

694
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.400
that Justice Society movie. Did.
This one at least held up a little

695
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:08.760
bit better structurally, so I would
give it like two and a half stars.

696
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.360
But it's almost like, you know, turds a turd, So either

697
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.599
way, I wouldn't recommend it.
That's fair. Okay, it looked two

698
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.760
and a half stars. You convinced
me if I could get away with it,

699
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.159
Sure, two and a half.
Maybe I just forgotten how bad just

700
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.639
As Society World War Two was.
That's kind of what I'm thinking. Yeah,

701
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.920
Okay, two and a half stars. That's my final offer, and

702
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.760
that's what we're gonna go with.
I mean, there's a lot to question

703
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:36.320
here, but I also think there
are better answers for those questions marginally,

704
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.320
So yeah, I think it squeaks
by a little bit more so cool.

705
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.239
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706
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In our next episode and lead up
to our team duel between the Flash Rogues

716
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.360
and the Brotherhood of Mutants, we
will be pitting Madame Rouge, the Doom

717
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.760
Patrol villain, against Mystique, the
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718
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this episode, we want to give
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Johnson, John Stoski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin, Belcolm Makee, Mattangian,

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