Big Barda vs Ronan the Accuser

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Hi, Welcome to the Dynamic Dual
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DC and I'm his twin brother, Marvelous

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Joe, and in this episode,
we are pitting the apocalyptic new god Big

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Barta against the Cree judge, jury
and executioner Ronan the Accuser, who was

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the main villain in the first Guardians
of the Galaxy film, making this a

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tie in to our review next episode
of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three.

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Yeah. I love Ronan the Accuser. I can't wait to find out who's

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going to win in a fight between
him and Big Barta. This is a

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great, like cosmic level character match. I think it's going to be a

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whole lot of fun, especially because
you know, Big Barta is way overdue

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for a dual matchup on this show. Helly, Yeah, she is.

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Holy cow, she's like a major
DC player that I'm surprised we haven't gotten

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a round too yet. Really happy
that we're finally getting ground to her now

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though. But of course we'll break
down the character's backstories and then speculate on

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how a battle between these two characters
will play out, before running simulations to

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find out who would really win.
Later on in this episode, before that,

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for the person that we feel gave the

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best answer to our question of the
week. Last week, we asked if

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Adam Driver is cast as mister Fantastic, who would you cast as Doctor Doom?

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And in reverse, if Driver is
Doom, who should be read?

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Of course, this is coming off
the rumor that Adam Driver is in final

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talks to be cast in the Fantastic
four movie. Yeah, we got quite

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a number of answers. We're going
to break down the honorable mentions before revealing

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this week's no Prize winner. Our
first honorable mention goes to Zach Wilder,

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who said, Hey, guys,
Zach Wilder here honestly prefer Driver as Doom.

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I would love to see John Kruzizynski
come back, but sounds unlikely.

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So the other option I was thinking
of was Eddie Redmain, the lead from

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the Fantastic Beast movie. Honestly,
it might be a wild card, but

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he sounds interesting to play that role
as mister Fantastic. In my opinion,

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I would love it if John Kruzinski
came back as mister Fantastic and it was

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just the main Mister Fantast for the
MCU, because I think his wife Emily

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Blunt would also make a fantastic sue
Storm. But if I couldn't keep Krazinski

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as read, Eddie Redmain is not
a terrible choice. Like he played Stephen

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Hawking, the biggest nerd of all
time, and what is Read Richards if

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not a big nerd. I think
Stephen Hawking is a little bit more than

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a big nerd. But you're right
in that, you know, he kind

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of looks the part. He can
portray himself as hyper intelligent, and yeah,

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I think he's a quality enough actor. And also, you know,

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the Fantastic Beast movies have really gone
downhill, so I think he's probably looking

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for work anyway. I think he'd
be a great read. I wonder if

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they would make people get confused between
Fantastic Four and Fantastic Beasts. They'd be

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like, what what? What is
this a sequel? Where's Dumbledore? Well?

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You could cast Jude Law as Doctor
Doom. Well, although actually he

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was already Yon rog in Captain Marvel, so he can't do it. But

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I think Eddie Redmain and Adam Driver
would play wall off each other. Zach

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didn't give us an for who he
thinks should play Doom if Adam Driver is

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mister Fantastic, but I really like
his read. Richard's answer. Yeah,

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great answer, Zach Wilder. Our
next honorable mention goes to John Starowski,

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who said, what is up guys? John Starowski here? So Adam Drivers

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Read Richards should be oppositioned by Jonathan
Reese Myers is Doctor Doom. I think

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he'd be really great for the role. He's a very talented actor. And

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for the reverse with Adam Driver as
Doctor Doom, I think it'd be really

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great to see Milo vent to Meiglia
as Read. Richards also a very talented

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actor. He was known for heroes
and he's done a couple other things.

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But I think for sure that both
of those castings would be absolutely fantastic.

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Yeah, I know, I hate
Jonathan Reese Myers as Doctor Doom. He

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has the sort of like smug arrogance
to him that I think he can really

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work well for the character. And
Milo Vento Miglia from Heroes. I was

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a big fan of that show.
I know for a while he stated that

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his dream role would have been to
play night Wing in a live action Batman

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film, and I really feel like
he needs to get in the comic book

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superhero casting landscape because clearly he's a
fan. Yeah. I mean, I

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feel like both of these actors are
Hollywood's biggest B listers, but there's no

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denying that they have talents and they
definitely have the ability to perform wonderfully in

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these superhero films. So great answer, John Staroski. Our next honorable mention

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goes to Brandon Estregard, who said, hey, guys, if Adam Drivers

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cast as Doctor Doom, I would
like to see Joseph Gordon Levett as mister

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Fantastic. And if he is playing
Mister Fantastic, then I want to see

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Keanu Reeves be Doctor Doom. I
know there's a h gup there. But

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I'm sure they'll explain it like black
magic or science or whatever, you know

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what. Joseph Gordon Levitt is one
of the more interesting names thrown out there

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for Reed Richards that I've heard in
a long time. I think the guy

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would absolutely kill it. It's been
a while since I've really seen him in

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anything, but I think he comes
across as remarkably intelligent, especially when you

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look at roles of his like Inception
or something like that, you know,

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yeah, or The Dark Knight Rises. He's a great actor. I really

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like that choice for Red Richards.
I don't love Keanu Reeves as doctor Doom.

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I know a lot of people are
like fancasting that we know that Keanu

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Reeves is fucking terrible at doing European
accents. Like, let's not even start

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that he could do an American accent. I'm sure Doom is smart enough to

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pull off an American accent, considering
you know, he did part of his

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postgraduate work in the United States.
So I would love to see Keano Reeves

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in the role. Like, if
that happened, I would not be upset

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about it. I don't know.
I think eventually he'd have to do an

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accent. I think you just don't
want an actor of Keno Reeves caliber to

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be part of the MCU. I
think you just want him for DC.

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That's what I think Caliber. I
mean, he's not like an Oscar contender,

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you know. No, he's not
an acting savant, but he is

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a very interesting actor who picks interesting
roles and draws in a lot of people

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because of that. Fair fair Yeah, fucking neo man in the MCU.

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I could see that that'd be awesome. So great answer, Brandon. We

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want to give a huge shout out
to Benjamin Ryan and Alex Wang for taking

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the time to visit our website and
leave their answers. Yeah, I do

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want to point out quickly that and
Alex Wang's answer. He said that really

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anyone could play the role of doctor
Doom because he's rank a mask, and

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that got me thinking, like,
what if they don't reveal who's going to

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play Doom and it just leaves like
fans speculating for the course of several films

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as to who's beneath the mask.
I think they would be really cool.

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That would be really interesting, Actually, I would love that kind of like,

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how if I remember this correctly?
They never revealed who played the ghostface

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killer in the screen movies. Yeah, yeah, but the winner of this

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week's no prize is Jacob Bell,
who said, hey guys, it's Jacob

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Bell here. And if Adam Driver
is mister Fantastic, then I would do

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kill you Murphy as Doctor Doom.
I know he's already been a villain,

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but that was in DC. He's
an incredible actor. I think it would

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be perfect. And then if Adam
Driver is Doctor Doom, then I would

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cast Ansel Elgort as mister Fantastic.
He's overdue to be a superhero. He's

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a fantastic actor. So that's my
choice. And sure enough we have a

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casting question with Jacobell bringing an answer, and of course he gets the win

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because Jacob Bell is just awesome at
casting. Seriously, he needs to be

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a casting director in Hollywood. Yeah, I think he'd crush it. Actually,

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I love both of these answers.
I never considered Ansel Elgort as Read

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Richards, but he not only does
he absolutely look the part, he'd be

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a great younger take on the role. I think Marvel would definitely be able

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to build a franchise off of him. And killing Murphy as Doctor Doom is

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like a no brainer, right.
The guy played Scarecrow and Batman Begins and

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was so good in that role.
He's so versatile that he could definitely take

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a different approach to Doctor Doom and
absolutely the crush it. And plus you

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know he's British, he can definitely
do the European accent thing. I think

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it'd be fantastic. Yeah, I
agree, I agree with everythink. Killian

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Murphy was so good as the Scarecrow
they had to bring it back for two

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more movies in just like minor roles. He's just awesome. I'm actually really

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looking forward to seeing him in Oppenheimer. Yeah, but great answer, Jacobell,

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you win this week's no Prize.
If you the listener want a shot

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at winning your own no Prize,
stay tuned to later on in this episode

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when we'll be asking another question of
the week. And now that that's done,

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on to the news. Okay,
So this past week was CinemaCon in

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Las Vegas, and I am super
jealous to everyone who got to attend because

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they got so many bad ass trailers
and footage that we the pleabs will never

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get a chance to see. I
mean, eventually we will get to see

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them. Yeah, when the movie
comes out, we'll get to see that,

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right, But one of the few
trailers that the public did get to

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see was of course, for the
Lash, and it was amazing. This

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isn't the first trailer that we've had, but this is definitely one that gets

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me the most excited for the film, Like each new promotional piece that comes

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out just gets me more and more
hyped to see this movie when I really

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wasn't excited to see it before.
Yeah, there's a lot going on in

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this trailer. This is the first
preview that we got that really gives a

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good sense of what the overall story
is going to be, and it looks

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pretty exciting. Yeah, of course
we've got a sense for the story and

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the previous trailer trailer number one,
but this definitely dives more into it.

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You know, as we hear Bruce
Wayne saying at the beginning of the trailer,

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Michael Keaton's character he spent a lifetime
trying to write the wrongs of the

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past how he lost his parents,
and he's talking with Barry Allen who actually

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can do that, which is an
interesting take on the character, and you

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could see why someone like Bruce Wayne
would be endeared towards someone like the Flash,

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and it was neat to see how
the different Bruce Wayne's kind of head

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not necessarily different takes. But you
have Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne, who was

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like impressed by the Flash's ability,
and then you have Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne,

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who was very much warning him against
taking this type of time traveling action.

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I feel like Ben Afflecks Batman has
seen more shit in his shorter career

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than Michael Keaton's Batman. You know, everything from aliens to God's Yeah,

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it's pretty crazy. There is a
shot early on when we get to see,

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you know, the vaults of different
batsuits that Michael Keaton has warned her

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as a career, and the person
standing there looking at them that has to

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be Michelle Pfeiffer. Right, I
have no idea they have white hair long.

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I'm not sure. It was pretty
interesting though. I've heard that there

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are so many cameos in this movie
that we don't even know about. A

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lot of people have seen the Flash
movie already, and I don't want to

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know about any of the surprise cameos
that are coming our way. I wanted

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to be a surprise so if that
is Michelle Peiffer, I don't want to

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know about it. I'm just really
excited and happy if it is, because

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that would mean that Catwoman ended up
with Batman, and I just love that.

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Of course, this film was screened
for the first time at CinemaCon for

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all the lucky bastards who got to
attend. They didn't show any post credit

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scenes, however, so audiences will
still be surprised in theaters when they see

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that for the first time. Later
on in the trailer, of course,

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we get to see the flash like
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and we see Zod's emergence on Earth, and of course Supergirl is there

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to help him fight the Kryptonians.
I love the line where Michael Keaton's like,

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you want to get nuts? Let's
get nuts? So good and such

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a great callback to the Batman eighty
nine film. Yeah, that's just a

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high caliber easter egg right there.
We get to see more of the other

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Barry Ellen and his really awkward looking
flash get up. In my opinion,

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it's apparently a bat suit that has
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I just think it looks really goofy. Well, because the Michael Keaton batman

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sued has like no neck right,
like he can't turn his head. It

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looks like, yeah, so the
silhouette is a little bit off. I'm

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interested in learning why Barry Ellen Prime
his flash electricity speed four stuff is yellow

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and the new Barry Ellen his electricity
trail is blue like how it was in

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the Justice League movies. I want
to know what the reason is behind that.

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Yeah, I mean too, It's
a cool visual effect to help audiences

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identify though, which flashes, which
flash when you know they're moving get superspeeds.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it'll
be helpful. It looks like Barry

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Ellen gets electrocuted like twenty times in
this movie though, because from like the

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last trailer to this trailer, there
are like several instances of him just like

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screaming into the sky while he's being
electrocuted. One of the things I really

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liked about this trailer was the swell
of the music alongside like the very emotional

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visuals that we saw that they worked
really well together. And it makes me

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wonder if this music is part of
the score for the film. You'd think

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it almost would be considering you know, the film is done, we get

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to see Carl fighting Zod, we
get to see Ben Affleck's batman like gliding

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away from explosions, and Michael Keaton's
batman like gliding down from the bat plane.

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I was surprised, honestly at just
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used in the runtime of this movie, because it looks like it's used in

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a lot of scenes here. Oh
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plane. It's gonna be so great
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because that's an awesome batmobile. Rerecluding
to who the villain of the story

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is later on in this trailer,
when we see the alternate Barry Allen saying

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how like, no one's gonna die. We're gonna fix this, and the

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Barry Allen we know saying we're not
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it's gonna be okay. That was
interesting. Ezra Miller definitely plays off of

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himself very well as an actor.
Well, I feel like he gave away

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too much. I think we just
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Barry's big lesson is that he can't
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always write every wrong, and that's
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I would have been perfectly fine thinking
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villain in this, only to be
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You know, I don't know.
I think it was subtle enough,

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and you know, honestly, I'm
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The last shot of the trailer are
the two Berries sitting with Batman and

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they're about to like skydive off of
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in that scene, the Berry with
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the Flash costume, and I guess
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Prime Berries Flash costume. It's very
weird. I noticed that too. Yeah.

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like, how many scenes we're seeing

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of the Flash in this new costume
are Prime Berry versus Alternate Berry. I

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have no idea. Yeah, it'll
be interesting to see how that all plays

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out, because you're right, Prime
Berry would not be like asking Batman where

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his parachute is and be like super
impressed by it and all that stuff.

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Exactly. He's had experience with Batman
and he would know but how cool is

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that a final shot with Batman skydiving
away from the bat plane and the batplane

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going across the moon. Oh yeah, that was really cool. All the

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bat plane stuff is just gets me
super happy. I can't wait for that.

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There's a lot of like cool little
winks and nods and Easter eggs here

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and there that the director Andy Machette
included that makes me think it's just going

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to be a phenomenal film and that
he really gets the fans and that he's

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actually excited about the characters. Yeah. To me, this really feels like

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it's gonna be almost something like No
Way Home or something like that. I

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can't wait for it, and I
can't wait to see how it also sets

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up the new DC universe. Towards
the end of the trailer, before it

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shows the title, it cycles through
the various logos of the various heroes that

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are going to be on screen in
the movie, Michael Caine's Batman, Batfleck,

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Supergirl, and then the flash.
They're really selling the amount of characters

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that are in this film, and
I think they're get really well. But

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speaking of all the heroes in this
movie, that brings us to our question

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before May sixth. But speaking of
CinemaCon, there was a bit of footage

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released on behalf of Sony showing a
scene from the Craven the Hunter movie,

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which is starring Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Basically, the scene that was described is

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Craven fighting a bunch of poachers and
killing them, basically just beating the shit

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out of them gruesomely. They described
one as Craven biting a dude's nose off

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and shit, acting like a crazy
animal. And I don't know how I

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feel about all of that, but
the implication in the big news that really

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came out of the scene was that
Craven the Hunter's going to be R rated,

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which is unlike Sony's other villain titles
like Morbious and Venom, which we're

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all PG thirteen to have an R
rated Sony Spider Verse Spider Man villain movie

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is kind of an interesting take.
I don't hate it because you know,

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Craven the Hunter can be a very
dark, violent character, and when you

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look at a story like Craven's Last
Hunter or something like that, they go

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into dark themes that I think would
be better suited by an R rating.

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But I just didn't see this coming. It's a kind of a big shock

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and mildly increases my interest in the
film overall. It really makes me wonder

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if this film is going to be
a part of Sony's planned like Spider Verse

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and you know, and whether or
not like Warbus is going to make cameo

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and a post credit scene saying we're
building a team or something like that,

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you know, because that's what I
thought we were going to get. But

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this R rating makes me second guess
that, Like, what if they're just

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going the direction of the Joker films
for this just its own standalone, R

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rated villain focused thing that could entirely
be the case, maybe they're trying to

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have their cake and eat it where
you get like a Joker esque R rated

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standalone villain story and then maybe still
tied into a larger villain team up film

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with Aaron Taylor Johnson, Tom Hardy, Jared Letto, and Michael Keaton.

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I mean, technically, I guess
they could do that since they've established this

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whole multiverse thing. It would just
be bizarre. Yeah, I still don't

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think it would even be worth doing
unless you could have Spider Man in the

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movie, and I just don't see
that happening. It would almost be like

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what Keen Phoenix is Joker popping up
in the Flash film. I'd be like,

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what, Well, it's cool that
DC is like establishing their else World's

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brand four stories that take place outside
of DC continuity, right, Sony is

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kind of like its own else World's
thing. But these characters are so tight

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into Spider Man and you want to
see them interact with that main character,

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and it's not likely that's going to
happen, So it's all, you know,

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it's all just so weird that Sony
is making these films to begin with.

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At least this one's going to be
R rated, so it might have

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some cool hardcore action. The first
trailer for this movie should be dropping within

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the next month or so here,
so we'll see what kind of vibes we

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get from that first footage released to
the general public. I would be really

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surprised if it like dropped with across
the Spider Verse like this kid animated film

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with an R rated trailer in front
of it. If the movie is going

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to be rated R, I hope
that they drop a red band trailer in

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addition to the regular trailer. The
movie comes out October sixth, though,

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so we have plenty of time for
speculation prior to the film's release. But

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I think that does for all the
news for this episode. Now let's move

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on to the main event, where
we find out who's gonna win in a

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battle between the apocalypt and New God
Big Barta and there warrior Ronan the Accuser.

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Okay, Big Barda versus Ronan the
Accuser. These are two massively powered

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cosmic characters that carry these awesome cudgels, you know, a Mega Rod and

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what is it called the Ultimate Hammer
or something like that. It's the Universal

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Weapon. Close enough. Like I
said, I've been looking forward to doing

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a dual episode with Barda for quite
some time, and you know, we

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figured with the Guardians of the Galaxy
volume of three movie coming up, Ronan

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would not be a terrible matchup for
Barda. The characters were both created by

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Jack Herby and the way he draws
them. At least they both wear these

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like curved headdress things. Yeah,
they kind of have similar silhouettes at least

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you know, from the shoulders up, which is interesting, and they both

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have cool weapons. When we stumble
upon Ronan the Accuser as a dual matchup

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for Big Barda, I think it
was with the executive producers like months ago.

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Oh yeah, it was a while. I was super excited by the

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concept and really interested in learning about
Big Barta's history and seeing exactly what she

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can do, because I know what
Ronan can do, and he is super

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powerful and Big Barda has her work
cut out for her. Big Barta is

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not threatened by Ronan. She deals
with punks like him all the time on

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Apocalypse. Ronan the Accuser is no
punk, and I think you'll learn that

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as I go into his backstory.
But let's learn how these fights happen.

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Let's go ahead and turn to our
sentient dual simulator, Alfred Jarvis nine thousand,

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AJ nine K tell our listeners how
you go about determining a winner in

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our dual matchups. Yes, of
course, sir. The way I determine

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a winner between the contestants is by
running one thousand Monte Carlo simulations using the

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character's statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation
is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes

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through random sampling. In this case, I randomized the statistics along a normal

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distribution as a way to simulate the
any variables that can occur during battle.

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The stat parameters are based on the
official Marvel Power grid, from which the

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DC character's statistics are extrapolated. Additional
stack categories are included, such as range,

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damage, potential, versatility, and
perception in order to create a more

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detailed and accurate simulation. The results
of the one thousand simulations provide a percentage

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of wins for each character. The
contestant with the higher percentage is declared the

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victor, as they have a higher
probability to win any given battle. In

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an equitable pairing, neither character should
win one hundred percent of the matches.

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The comic book stories have shown that
there's even a way for Batman to defeat

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Superman, so the confidence rate of
my method falls in line with the precedents

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that have been established in the source
material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity

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or bias. Feats are not the
sole consideration, nor a fan votes tabulated

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for determination of the winner. Thanks
Ay jeanein Ka. Before we run the

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simulations, though, we like to
break down each characters histories and abilities for

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improvising a scenario on how we imagine
one of the one thousand simulations would play

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out. Bat for bat and I
believe it's my trend to go first with

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the Marvel characters backstory, so let
me go ahead and tell you all about

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Ronan the Accuser. Ronan, a
blue skinned member of the space alien race

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known as the Cree, was born
on the Cree capitol planet Halla, where

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he underwent formal education. Upon completion
of school, he joined the public Accuser

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Core, which was a planetary militia
tasked with serving as judge, jury,

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and executioner to those accused of crimes
against the Cree Empire. As a particularly

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skilled and devoted Accuser, Ronan rose
through the ranks of the Core until he

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was promoted to Supreme Accuser by the
Supreme Intelligence, which was the ruler of

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the Cree and an organic supercomputer composed
of the greatest minds in Cree history.

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As the Supreme Accuser, Ronan was
third in authority only to the Supreme Intelligence

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and Imperial Minister, and he took
his task of enforcing the Cree laws and

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decreased seriously. One of his earliest
missions in his new role was to travel

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to Earth to investigate the destruction of
a robotic Cree sentry drone at the hands

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of the Fantastic Four. Though the
Four were able to redirect the quote unquote

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sentencing blast back at Ronan and defeat
him, the attack prompted Ronan and the

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Supreme Intelligence to order a Cree spy
expedition to Earth to further investigate the threat

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that the planet posed. Among these
spies was the Cree Captain Marvel, whom

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you can learn more about in our
Captain Marvel Dual episode. Despite Ronan's seeming

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compliance taking orders from the Supreme Intelligence
supercomputer, he secretly plotted to overthrow the

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Cree leader, believing that the Empire
should not be ruled by an artificial intelligence.

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During his attempted coups, however,
he was stopped by Captain Marvel and

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incarcerated for his treason against the Cree
Empire. He later escaped, though,

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and was able to successfully carry out
his takeover, using the Empire's war against

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the Scroll Alien race, the kres
Scroull War as a distraction. Ronan's role

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as the Kreese leader was short lived, however, as the Supreme Intelligence returned

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and telepathically forced him into obedience.
While under mental subjugation, Ronan learned the

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error of his ways and decided to
serve the Supreme Intelligence willingly. He was

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then assigned to the elite intergalactic strike
force called the Crease Star Force, which

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was tasked with assassinating Queen Lilandra of
the Siyar Alien Empire. Ronan and the

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Star Force were thwarted, however,
by the Avengers, who defended Queen Lilandra

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alongside the Shire Imperial Guard. It
was Earth's hero's interference in galactic affairs that

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eventually led to Earth being declared a
prison planet for the universe's criminals, the

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rationale being that heroes such as the
Avengers, Fantastic Four, and x Men

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would be too preoccupied with the criminals
to do anything about cosmic affairs. Ronan

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was assigned as the Warden of Earth, ruling over it ruthlessly. Whoever,

403
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.839
the Universal Criminals ended up partnering with
Earth's heroes to drive Ronan back away from

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00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.960
Earth. Eventually, back on Halla, Ronan was framed for treason and stripped

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of his accuser rank, but he
nevertheless defended the Kree Empire alongside Nova star

406
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Lord and the rest of the United
Front against the Annihilation Wave invasion of the

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Negative Zone forces led by the villain
Annihilis. Having cleared his name in the

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00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.200
eyes of the Kree Empire, Ronan
returned to Halla to confront those who had

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00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:41.599
framed him, learning that in his
absence, the Roque Government faction had lobotomized

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the Supreme Intelligence. As an act
of mercy, Ronan killed to the Supreme

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Intelligence and was named the new Emperor
of the Kree Empire. His people soon

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fell into disarray, however, after
largely being assimilated by the techno organic parasitic

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race known as the Phalanx, who
had themselves been taken over by the Avenger

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villain Ultron, whom you can learn
more about in our Brainiac Versus Ultron duel

415
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.559
episode. Ronan teamed up with Nova
and star Lord again to defeat Ultron and

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the Phalanx, but despite their victory, the Kree Empire was in ruins.

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You can learn more about Nova and
star Lord in their respective duels against Green

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Lantern and Adam Strange. The Inhumans, who were heroes from Earth who descended

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from experiments by the Kree Empire on
ancient Mankind, took advantage of the Kree

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Empire's brokenness, and the Inhuman leader
Black Bolt, defeated Ronan to become the

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Empire's new ruler. The Inhuman's rule
over the Cree was short lived, though,

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and they later returned to Earth.
Ronan then resuscitated the Supreme Intelligence to

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give it back control and rebuild the
Kree Empire. He then fought alongside Nova

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and the Guardians of the Galaxy to
prevent the spread of the Cancer vers and

425
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then joined the cosmic superhero team called
the Annihilators, consisting of Ronan, Silver

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Surfer, Quasar, Beta, ray
Bill, and Gladiator, all of whom

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have been in their own dual episodes
save for a Gladiator. Later, a

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lost mirror device known as the Black
Vortex was found, which could grant its

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00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:18.559
owner the power of a celestial deity. Knowing the device was too powerful in

430
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.079
the wrong hands, Ronan acquired it
and brought it before the Supreme Intelligence,

431
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.319
asking to use it to defend Halla. The Supreme Intelligence denied him, however,

432
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.799
and soon star Lord's dad, Jason
of Spartas, descended upon Halla and

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destroyed it, acquiring the Black Vortex
for himself. Ronan blamed himself for causing

434
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:44.160
his planet's destruction by bringing the Black
Vortex there, and he tried to rebuild

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00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:49.920
the Cree Empire and get revenge.
Unfortunately, the surviving Cree Aliens rebelled against

436
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:55.519
their old ways of following the Supreme
Intelligence and the Accusers, and they cruelly

437
00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:00.799
imprisoned and experimented on Ronan, turning
him into a cyborg. He was eventually

438
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:05.440
discovered in his new state by the
inhuman King black Bolt, who put Ronan

439
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.640
out of his misery at his request. You can learn more about black Bolt

440
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:13.400
in his duel against Shazam, and
that's his history. He's currently dead now

441
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.519
in the comics, but he should
return eventually. Powers wise. Ronan,

442
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.119
the Accuser, is a member of
the Cree alien race, which makes him

443
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:27.319
physiologically superior to the most physically impressive
human. Further enhanced by his Accuser body

444
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:31.359
armor, Ronan can lift around fifty
tons and withstand all but the most powerful

445
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:37.839
of attacks. In addition to physical
enhancements, his armor is equipped with technological

446
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:43.279
scanners and cloaking devices that can detect
the environment around him and make him undetectable

447
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.599
to others. As the Supreme Accuser, Ronan also wields the Universal Weapon,

448
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:53.599
which is a Cree warhammer device that
replicates a lesser form of the power Cosmic,

449
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.599
meaning that like the Silver Surfer,
Ronan can use the hammer to fire

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00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:05.640
and credibly powerful energy blasts, create
simple energy constructs, manipulate matter at the

451
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.960
molecular state, and teleport across interstellar
distances. In addition, Ronan contains vast

452
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:16.119
knowledge of Cree laws and strategy and
has Cree Accuser combat training. And that's

453
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.119
road in the Accuser. It's interesting
that his hammer was like a prototype power

454
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:29.039
cosmic Channeller. I believe Barda's Megarod
was a prototype apocalypt in Motherbox. Oh

455
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.720
really, yeah, some of the
same features, not all of them,

456
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:36.279
but some. God, I had
the hardest time figuring out exactly what Ronan's

457
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.640
Hammer could do, specifically when typing
out his abilities for this dual matchup,

458
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.440
because I read so many different comics
where basically he gave these really vague statements

459
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.920
in regards to what the Universal Weapon
could do, like it could create and

460
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.079
destroy all matter, and it did
a lot of really weird things, like

461
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.440
when he first went up against the
Fantastic Four, he weighed the thing down

462
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.119
with his hammer so that he couldn't
like stand up. Then he also really

463
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:07.119
made the human torches fire ability so
volatile that he went supernova unwillingly, you

464
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:10.599
know, just random shit like that
that I couldn't quite figure out how to

465
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.440
nail down in the description. But
then I read a comic where he fought

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00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:22.480
the Silver Surfer who described Ronan's Hammer
as trying to emulate the power of cosmic

467
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.599
which is bestowed by Galactus and the
Marvel Universe, and responded by saying,

468
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:31.239
yeah, like what Galactus bestows,
cre technology can emulate. So that's when

469
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:35.920
it all made sense to me,
the whole like energy and matter manipulation thing,

470
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.519
kind of like how the Cree invented
the negabands in an attempt to replicate

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00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.800
the quantum bands. The Universal Weapon
is another use of cre technology to replicate

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00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:51.360
vast cosmically powered sources throughout the universe. When it comes to the Cree,

473
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.280
the r and the Scrolls, like
the three main alien races in Marvel,

474
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.920
the Crea seemed like the biggest douchebags. I don't know why. I think

475
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.079
they all take turns, honestly,
except for maybe the she Are. But

476
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.559
yeah, the Skulls and the Creek
can be pretty douchy. Well, I

477
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:12.039
guarantee you they're not bigger douchebags than
the Apocalyptins. Probably not. Yeah,

478
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.880
And Apocalypse is where Big Barta comes
from. Let me tell you all about

479
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.679
her and her character breakdown. On
the hellish planet of Apocalypse, ruled by

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00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.440
the tyrannical New God Dark Side,
existed a fierce battalion of women warriors known

481
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:31.320
as the Female Furies. The Furies
were bread and gestation labs and engineered for

482
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:37.639
cruelty and ruthlessness. One of the
furies greatest members was a woman named Big

483
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.119
Brita, who fell in love with
a man on Apocalypse and the two conceived

484
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:49.119
a child naturally. Upon learning of
this dark Side forcibly extracted the fetus from

485
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.920
Brita and placed the child in a
gestation chamber, where it continued to grow,

486
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.920
and, once born, was placed
under the care of Granny Goodness,

487
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.400
commander of the Female Furies and the
head of the orphanage where the child was

488
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:07.159
raised. Grannie Goodness brought up this
child, named Big Barta to be a

489
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.320
formidable warrior, grooming her to be
the dianne of the elite Special Powers Force

490
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.800
who served under Darkside Directly during her
training, Barta met Scott Free, the

491
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:22.679
adopted son of Darkside, who you
can learn more about in our Mister Miracle

492
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.400
Versus Adam Warlock duel episode. Taken
aback by a sense of peace he had

493
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.159
about him that came from his true
heritage as the son of High Father,

494
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.880
the benevolent ruler of New Genesis,
Barta fell in love with Scott, a

495
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.079
fellow orphan, and he introduced her
to a seeker rebellion on Apocalypse led by

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00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.440
the freedom fighter Hemone of New Genesis. After one of Barta's friends, Arelie,

497
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:51.360
was tortured to death for the crime
of dancing, Barta, Hemone and

498
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:57.239
the new god Metron helped Scott Free
escape Apocalypse. Though Scott urged Barta to

499
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.719
escape with him, Barta refused,
as she was unprepared and frightened to leave

500
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.960
the only life she had ever known. Life without Scott proved to be more

501
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.920
torturous than any training enforced by Granny
Goodness. However, and when Darkside was

502
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.440
able to declare war a new genesis
with the absence of Scott free, Barta

503
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.920
used the opportunity to escape herself.
Barta managed to find Scott on Earth,

504
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.719
where he had been training under a
master escape artist named Thaddius Brown aka Mister

505
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.639
Miracle, the mantle of which Scott
would eventually inherit. Barta wasn't the only

506
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.519
one to find Scott on Earth,
however, as the forces of Apocalypse fought

507
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:40.000
to kill the son of High Father
on his new adopted planet, Barta helped

508
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.519
Scott fend off his would be assassins, and over time the two were wed

509
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.519
by High Father. Now married,
Barta followed her husband and their diminutive assistant

510
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.519
Oberon across the world as Scott built
up a death defying escape artistry act.

511
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.079
The couple tried to live a normal
life for a time, buying a loft

512
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.360
and greenwich village, where Barta taught
self defense training to the local women.

513
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.159
Their life caught up with them,
however, and when Scott joined the Justice

514
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.679
League in order to help them protect
Earth from Darkseide and the forces of apocalypse,

515
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.119
Barta joined her husband and even led
a mission to rescue Scott when he

516
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:20.199
got lost in space. The couple
lived on New Genesis for a time,

517
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.920
but returned to Earth and took up
residence in the Justice League headquarters. It

518
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:29.400
was during this time that the two
separated, as Barta felt that Scotts did

519
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:34.280
not consider her feelings. Barta died
in battle not long after, though a

520
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.280
mournful Scott was able to bring her
back to life after having temporary access to

521
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:44.360
source energy, which is the energy
in DC that created the universe and brings

522
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.480
life. When one of the new
gods of New Genesis predicted that an old

523
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:53.119
god mcgeddon would awaken and cause chaos
throughout the universe, he ordered Barta and

524
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:58.159
the new god O'rian, who you
can learn more about in our Orian versus

525
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:01.320
Silver Surfer episode, to join to
Justice League in order to help stop the

526
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:07.199
threat. Barta partook in numerous missions
with the League, though after the threat

527
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.679
of mcgeddon was eventually stopped. Barta
and Scott semi retired to the suburbs of

528
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.119
Connecticut, though they never refused the
chance to help members of the Justice League

529
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.239
go up against Apocalypse, such as
when dark Side kidnapped Supergirl and brainwashed her

530
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.559
into becoming a female Fury. After
a brief stint on the Birds of Prey

531
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.840
team and several other adventures with the
Justice League, Barto was killed by a

532
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.960
being of New Genesis named Infinity Man, who was manipulated into killing all New

533
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.519
Gods in an effort to usher in
a new age of deities. Not long

534
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.079
after, Darkside nearly conquered the universe
during the Final Crisis event, and after

535
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.719
his defeat, Barto was reincarnated on
New Genesis alongside High Father and several other

536
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.920
New Gods. In post flashpoint continuity, Barta, still married to Scott,

537
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.079
fought alongside her husband to protect Earth
Too from being destroyed by dark Side,

538
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.960
though the two failed to save that
universe and have since fought alongside the heroes

539
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.960
of DC's Prime Universe. Powers Wise, as a new God, Barta possesses

540
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.639
vast durability, reflexes, and strength, allowing her to lift an excess of

541
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:21.880
one hundred tons. She's essentially immortal, having not aged upon reaching the adulthood

542
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.920
and is over two hundred and fifty
years old. She is a highly trained

543
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.880
warrior, mastering all forms of hand
to hand combat and weapons training developed by

544
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.920
the New Gods. She's equipped with
apocalypt in armor and a weapon known as

545
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:42.880
a megaod, a technological cudgel capable
of generating devastating energy blasts and beams,

546
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.639
tracking energy signatures, and it allows
Barda to teleport without the need of a

547
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:52.719
boom tube. She also has a
limited degree of gravity control, allowing her

548
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.320
to lift into the air with anti
gravity or increasing the pool of gravity on

549
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.639
an object or individual. Sometimes she
has a motherbox, sometimes she doesn't,

550
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:07.639
a motherbox being a supercomputer of New
Genesis technology that allows her to manipulate matter

551
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.119
and energy, much like the power
cosmic. Well, why does she need

552
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.159
a motherbox if she has a megarod, which is supposed to emulate the abilities

553
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:20.599
of a motherbox. She doesn't.
Really. The only time I've really seen

554
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.840
her carry one is when she and
the jail A were going up against mcgeddon.

555
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.039
I'm just bringing the stop in case
you try and pull some shit with

556
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.800
the hammer. Okay, so you're
just fucking cheating. Fine, she doesn't

557
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.480
have the motherbox, just the Megarod, but it'll be enough. Okay.

558
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:37.960
I like this. All right,
let's do it, because now that we've

559
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.960
got their histories and abilities out of
the way, we're going to speculate on

560
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.199
how one of the one thousand simulated
matches will go. The winners determined by

561
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.280
simulations, not the speculation, but
it's fun to imagine how the fight could

562
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.480
play out. Alfred Jarvis nine thousand. What are the rules of our speculation?

563
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:58.480
Well, I should say there are
no rules, other than the characters

564
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:00.880
have no prior knowledge of the other
going into the fight. All they are

565
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.519
aware of starting out is that the
other character is a threat that needs to

566
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.880
be eliminated. For the speculation,
the contestants will begin approximately fifty meters apart

567
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.360
in a nondescript environment that will have
no bearing on the match itself, as

568
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.440
no environmental statistics are considered in my
simulations. The contestants must earn victory on

569
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.119
their own merit. All right,
then let's get into it. Big Barda

570
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:28.920
and Ronan, the accuser, meet
on the battlefield. Who goes first?

571
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.079
I'm actually going to say that Barta
goes first. You know, since she

572
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.360
was trained on Apocalypse as a female
fury, she's been taught to show no

573
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.159
mercy and give no quarter. So
she's going to start by swinging her megarod

574
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.920
at Ronan and just hurling a wave
of Apocalyptin energy atom. But you know,

575
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:52.400
having been trained on Halla as an
accuser, Ronan's been taught to show

576
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.800
no mercy and give no quarter to
those who show no mercy, give no

577
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.559
quarter. So so he's going to
raise his universal weapon and generate an energy

578
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:08.360
shield in front of him that blocks
Big Barda's megarod attack. And while he's

579
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.760
behind the shield, he's going to
be scanning Big Barta with his universal weapon,

580
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.760
which is going to feed information to
his armor about her, telling him

581
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.360
that she is extremely physically tough and
that he needs to keep her at a

582
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.639
fucking distance. So that's what he's
gonna do. Well, good luck with

583
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:30.880
that, because you know, as
Ronan is hiding behind this shield, she's

584
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.800
gonna use the anti gravity powers of
the Megarod to like launch herself into the

585
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.679
air, and then she's gonna use
it to also blast herself past Ronan chield

586
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:45.199
and down onto him, just knocking
him to the ground, where she begins

587
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:51.320
pummeling him with the rod mercilessly.
Well, this is not where Ronan wanted

588
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.400
to be. I just said he
had to keep his distance. But you

589
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.599
know, you know she's swinging the
megarod down onto him, but he could

590
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.159
block that, knock her out aside
with his hammer, and then he's gonna

591
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:06.440
launch himself from the ground with like
this hammer upper cut right into Barna's chin,

592
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.400
sending her up into the air what
like an inch. You know how

593
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.599
durable she is, Like she's just
gonna shrug let off and then grab his

594
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.719
hammer with her other hand and just
yank it away from him and then hurl

595
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:22.400
it towards the horizon. Well that
makes her dumb, because the Universal Weapon

596
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.960
has a fail safe to prevent other
people from using it. So you know,

597
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.480
Barta tries to throw Ronan's hammer,
but then the weapon just sends like

598
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:36.320
this massive energy shock, and that's
going to cause her to drop the hammer

599
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.840
and just fall to the ground stunned, at which point Ronan's gonna grab his

600
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.320
Universal Weapon and just play croquet with
her head, just sending her careening it

601
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.960
across the ground. Dude, do
you think Barna hasn't been electrocuted on Apocalypse

602
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.920
as like part of her torture training, Like, I guarantee you she has.

603
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:57.760
So. Again, like her recovery
time is faster than Ronan is going

604
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.519
to expect. And as he swings
his hammer, Barta is just going to

605
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.119
use her Mega ride to increase gravity's
pool on it, so his hammer is

606
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.679
just gonna slam into the ground before
he could make a full swing. And

607
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.400
that's when Barta lifts her legs up
from the ground and grabs his neck between

608
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.559
her calves, just twisting and slamming
Ronan's head down next to his hammer.

609
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.079
And just to prove that she's a
badass, she's also gonna like grab the

610
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.599
Universal Weapon. Stupid name, by
the way, I just have to point

611
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.440
that out. It's a fucking is
a horrible name, isn't it. It's

612
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.119
it's the worst called a Universal Hammer
at least. Anyway, she grabs it,

613
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:37.159
and she's just gonna power through the
electric shock to break it in half

614
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.159
over her knee, and that's going
to destroy the technology in it. She's

615
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:44.079
gonna like toss it to the ground, well, breaking the Universal Weapon in

616
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.800
half. Over her knee. That's
just going to break the handle. So

617
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.440
all Barta did was make the hammer
shorter, So you know, Ronan's gonna

618
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.440
roll on the ground over to his
Universal weapon, which is shorter but just

619
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:57.800
fine. You know, he's gonna
pick it up, and while on the

620
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.119
ground, he's going to use it
to transform the ground beneath Barta's feet into

621
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:06.320
liquid. Okay, so she just
falls right into the floor like quicksand,

622
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.840
and then Ronan's gonna solidify the ground
again, making her completely trapped underground.

623
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:14.519
Okay, well, I mean from
the ground above Barta, you know where

624
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:19.280
she sank is just gonna erupt this
massive red bean like like an apocalypt and

625
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.039
fire pit. That's gonna happen right
before Bartera just explodes out of the ground.

626
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.239
Except Ronan was prepared for this kk
so while she was underground, he

627
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.639
scanned her movements using his Universal weapon, and as she tries to come out

628
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:37.079
of the ground, he plays whacka
Barta with his hammer and slams her right

629
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.400
back down into the hole. Okay, I mean that's when Barta is just

630
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:45.519
gonna like lift up the massive chunk
of ground that Ronan is standing gone from

631
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.480
below because she could scan where he
is too with her MEGAOD, and she's

632
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:53.800
gonna hurl that sucker right into the
stratosphere before blasting Get and blasting Get and

633
00:46:53.880 --> 00:47:00.480
Ronan to Smith Reens with an energy
bean. That's pretty hardcore. Well,

634
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:06.800
Ronan can kind of fly using the
universal upon to create a energy floating disc

635
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.320
construct that he can stand on.
So as he's being like tossed into the

636
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.760
air with this massive chunk of earth, he's gonna hop off of that chunk

637
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.199
of ground before Barta blasts it,
and from the air, Ronan's gonna transmute

638
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:27.119
the falling debris into radion. So
it's like raining radion rocks all over Barta

639
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.519
and they weaken her and crush her
as she gets buried in this like rock

640
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:35.840
storm. How the fuck do you
know about radion? Everybody knows about radion,

641
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.480
man, you don't know shit about
radion. I know that a radion

642
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:44.079
bullet killed Orian once. I remember
that from his duel against Silver Surfer.

643
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:49.760
And I bet you that Ronan scans
will have revealed that Barna has a radion

644
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.679
weakness. I forgot to mention that
in my ride up. I guess,

645
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:58.000
yeah, conveniently, I noticed Okay. I mean, well, once Barda

646
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.079
senses that she's being weakened to buy
Radion, She's gonna teleport into the sky

647
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:07.480
above the debris and then just like
quickly hurl her Mega Rod like a bullet

648
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.119
right through Ronan's face, killing him. But if Barta's in the air and

649
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.599
she throws her megaod, isn't she
just gonna fall straight down on top of

650
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.960
the Radion beneath her and then die
that way? Yeah? But I mean

651
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.840
that's that's a long fall. And
as long as Ronan dies first, Farta

652
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:29.239
still wins. But what if Ronan
uses the Universal Weapon to like dismantle the

653
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.199
Megaod into pieces before it even reaches
him. I think that's what happened.

654
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.400
This is a pocket lifting technology like
that's it's better if if it's made out

655
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.480
of molecules, he can blast it
apart. So Barta just falls to her

656
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.960
death on top of the Radion debris. I'm gonna say no, because like

657
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:50.719
he didn't even see where she teleported
from, and she just threw away too

658
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.360
fast for him to react. Well, that might be a good stopping point.

659
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.880
We'll go ahead and leave it there
and run the simulations to find out

660
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.840
which of these scenarios happens. Either
Big Barta throws her megarod right through Ronan

661
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:09.280
the Accuser's face, or Ronan is
able to disintegrate the megarod before it reaches

662
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.800
him, and then she falls to
her death, landing on something that she's

663
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:19.000
weak to and therefore not durable against
a J nine K run the simulations in

664
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:24.599
putting data, running calculations, processing
results, simulations complete. That was a

665
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:31.079
particularly difficult speculation. I think I
feel like Ronan's abilities aren't particularly well defined.

666
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.800
At least, you know, he's
wildly inconsistent across the comics. Sometimes

667
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.199
he's like the most powerful badass you've
ever seen, and then you know,

668
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.639
sometimes he's like, you know,
mediocre at best. Really, because like

669
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:49.239
Barta is consistently hardcore against all of
her appearances, I would say, well,

670
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.679
she definitely had the edge over Ronan
the Accuser in terms of durability,

671
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:58.360
strength, and fighting, although not
like a massive advantage in either one of

672
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.559
those categories, because Ronan is durable, he is strong, and he's pretty

673
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.880
good at hand to hand combat.
Yeah, Barta edged Ronan out in those

674
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:10.840
categories, but Ronan was better an
evasiveness considering he could turn invisible and create

675
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.440
force fields and stuff like that.
We also said that he had greater perception

676
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:21.880
considering the far ranging scanning abilities of
his hammer. It was just slightly more

677
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.400
than what has been depicted for Barta's
Mega rod. And we said, of

678
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.880
course that he was more versatile.
Yeah, considering that he pretty much has

679
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.679
a lesser version of the power cosmic
which the Silver Surfer wields, so he

680
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.840
could apply that for a wide variety
of effects that Barta just can't do.

681
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.960
Speed, damage and range wise,
we said they were about comparable. So

682
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.079
with all that, Jonathan, who's
winning this one? This is going to

683
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:50.280
be a tough one. I think
Barta has a shot at winning. I

684
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.320
think it's going to be close no
matter who the winner is, and our

685
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.400
Instagram followers that the same thing.
I think this is the first time we've

686
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.519
ever had a fifty fifty split on
the pole post to Instagram. Yeah,

687
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.239
I don't think this is the first
time the poll results came out fifty fifty,

688
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.119
but I do think we had more
votes for this particular Instagram poll than

689
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.480
we've had in a long time,
and they came out dead even where the

690
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.639
results pretty close to even. Let's
find out a J nine K the results.

691
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:20.199
Please, hey USA. All right, well, the winner between Ronan

692
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:29.920
the Accuser and Big Barta is Ronan
the fucking Accuser. Big Barta stands accused

693
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:36.360
and sentenced to death for being super
lame and not as good. Ronan the

694
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.559
Accuser won five hundred eighty six matches
out of the one thousand simulations, whereas

695
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.119
Big Barta won four hundred fourteen,
so it was fifty eight point six percent

696
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.119
of the time, whereas Barta only
one forty one point four percent. This

697
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.679
is heartbreaking, this is super sad. I did not think it was going

698
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:58.239
to turn out this way. I
thought Barta was just way too awesome to

699
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:02.519
ever lose to someone who lost via
a dance off in the garden in the

700
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:06.880
movie movie, well, you know, they went tip for tats in terms

701
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.239
of their advantages over each other.
You know, Barta head the durability,

702
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:15.960
strength, fighting, Ronan head evasive
intellect, perception. But what edged Ronan

703
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:21.000
over was his versatility. That universal
weapon of his is so damn versatile.

704
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.960
It can do crazy shit like break
apart Big bartas Megarod and then weigh her

705
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.920
down with heavy gravity. You know, things like that. Now I see

706
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.320
why you did want me to bring
a mother Box into this match, because

707
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:36.480
if I had that versatility stat would
not have been the death knell that it

708
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.119
was. Perhaps not, but you
know, at the end of the day,

709
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.159
it was your choice, you know, and you made that choice for

710
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.320
a reason, and I think you
were right, of course you do.

711
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.599
The only reason I didn't give it
to her is because she's not from New

712
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.880
Genesis. She's from Apocalypse and the
mother Boxes are New Genesis tech. I

713
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.760
mean, she's married to a New
Genesis guy. But the Megarod is sort

714
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.480
of like her signature weapon. I
know is at the end of the day,

715
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.400
I'd rather have a Megarod than a
lame ass weapon called the Universal Weapon.

716
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:12.920
Well, the Megarod is just penis
envy. Yeah, that's I mean,

717
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.920
that's what I call mine, and
I call mine the Universal Weapons.

718
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.880
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my tickets way late, and I
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that's what I get for thinking that
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Marvel, you know, Contamania,
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really good. I know, at
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really heartfelt. I know personally,
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738
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just want to see how James Gunn
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739
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.679
it'll be an interesting watch for both
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