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This is a dyna Mic Network podcast.
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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic Dual Podcast to Rotten Tomatoes,
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approved to show that reviews superhero films and series through
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the lens of the DC and Marvel fandoms. I'm Joseph
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and I'm his twin brother Johnny DC, and in this episode,
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we are going to review the latest Marvel Studios release,
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Spider Man Brand New Day. Right off the bat, I'm
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not looking forward to reviewing this.
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Like it was a good movie, but I had some
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issues for sure.
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But you are super, super harsh when it comes to
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Marvel films because of all the backstory you have from
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the comics. I feel like I don't give a shit.
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I just, you know, want to see if it's a
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good movie or not. But you compare it to everything,
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and it's like almost impossible for the movies to be
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as good as the comics. Well, I do feel like
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people who are fans of the comic, especially some of
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the characters in the movie, will like the film less
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than your typical general audience member. I think actually the
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general audience will really like Spiderman Brand New Day. I
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didn't really have that problem there, said, I am totally
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willing to shit all over this film?
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Why you don't get to only I get to two
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person podcast?
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Or is this a one person podcast?
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I'm just kidding.
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I actually liked the movie for the most part, and
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I think it would be really weird if you give
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it a rand score. Well, let's find out if I
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do or not when we get into the review. Before that,
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we have a quick message from our AI co host
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aj nine K, So listen up.
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Why hello there? Be sure to tune into the other
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shows in the Dynamite podcast network, including the Console Combat podcast,
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where host John and Dean simulate battles between popular video
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game characters. Over on the Max Destruction podcast, hosts Scotty
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and Gilly picked your favorite action heroes from film and
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television against each other. And on the Senjo World podcast,
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Thanks to Jane nine K. In our last episode, we
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did a review of Spider Noor, during which we discussed
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a lot of the characters in that show that appeared
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in the comic books. Then asked you, guys who you
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thought would make a good matchup for some of those characters.
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As always, our best response came from Devin Davis on Discord,
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who suggested the matchup of Midnighter from the Authority versus
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Spider Nor. Just a quick recap, Spider Man Nor was
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raised during the Great Depression by his Aunt Ma and
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uncle Ben, and he became a crime fighter after a
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mystical spider bite granted him all the powers of Spider Man,
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including strength, agility. While crawling, he has black organic webbing,
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spider sense, advanced healing, and also immunity to pain, which
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is kind of unique for that character. He also carries
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firearms and wears his uncle Ben's World War One airmnum,
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providing him light body armor. Such a cool character, like
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one of the coolest versions of Spider Man, hands down
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for sure.
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Yeah.
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Also cool is Midnighter, who is also a stealthy I
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don't know if you could classify them as noir, but
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you definitely could. He's the Batman of the wild Storm universe. Essentially,
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he was bioengineered for a secret Stormwatch Black Ops team,
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but went rogue with the hero Apollo before joining the Authority.
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He's a brutal vigilante and has enhanced strength, speed, reflexes, durability,
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rapid healing, and a combat computer implant that predicts how
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to counter and win any fight. We input their stats
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into our Monte Carlo simulator ran one thousand matches and
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have a winner for you, AJ nine K the results. Please, Hey,
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you are, sir, the winner of the matchup between Midnighter
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and Spider Man Noir is Midnighter. How how July one,
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five hundred and fifty nine of the one thousand simulated
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matches or fifty five point nine percent compared to Spider
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Man Nor, who won forty four point one percent, And
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really you were tit for tat Except in the skill
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of fighting. Midnight are dominated Spider Man Noir in that category. Yeah,
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I was gonna say, but Spider Man Nor is so
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much stronger, I mean barely. For what Spider Man Noir
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makes up for in strength, he loses an intellect, he loses.
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Spider Man Nor is so smart.
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I'm sorry.
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Does he have a computer for a brain? No?
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Okay, whatever, just more overpowered DC bullshit once again. Moving on,
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I have to say this has become my favorite segment
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of our new format. It kind of makes me miss
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the days when we used to speculate on the matches. Well,
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and I also hate you.
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Okay, let's go ahead and give a quick breakdown of
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the comic book histories of the characters that appear in
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Spider Man Brand New Day in a segment called Who's Who.
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Of course, appearing in Spider Man Brand New Day is
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Spider Man aka Peter Parker, who is the orphaned son
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of Ci the Agents. He was raised by his aunt
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May and uncle Ben in Queens, New York. At age fifteen,
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he was bitten by a radioactive spider, which granted him
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incredible abilities. Initially using his powers for profit, Peter allowed
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a thief to escape, only to learn that the same
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man later killed his uncle Ben. The tragedy taught him
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that with great power comes great responsibility, leading him to
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become Spider Man.
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As Spider Man, Peter balanced heroism.
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With personal hardship, at one point creating and drinking an
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experimental serum to remove his powers permanently. This caused him
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to mutate into a six armed man Spider, but he
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was eventually cured by his occasional foe, the Lizard. Peter
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married Mary Jane Watson, though they endured financial strain, the
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still birth of their daughter May, and repeated threats caused
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by his superhero life. They later sacrificed their marriage to
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Mefisto to restore Peter's secret identity to the world and
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save aunt May, though Peter and Mary Jane eventually found
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their way back to each other. Spider Man possessed a
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superhuman strength, speed, agility, red flexes, and durability. He can
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cling to walls, he can sense approaching danger through his
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spider sense, and he uses self designed webshooters to swing,
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restrain enemies, and fire buried web projectiles. Occasionally in the comics,
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he has also had organic webshooters.
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Also in the movie Is the Punisher.
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Frank Castle was the son of Sicilian immigrants, also from
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Queen's After leaving seminary because he could not forgive evil,
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he joined the Marines, trained in reconnaissance, ciper operations, airborne tactics,
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and underwater demolition, and served multiple tours in Vietnam When
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Frank returned home, his wife, Maria and their children were
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murdered in Central Park.
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After witnessing a mob execution.
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With police corruption preventing justice, Frank became the Punisher and
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began a one man war on organized crime. After finally
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dying after many decades, he was revived into the body of.
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His younger self and continued his campaign.
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The Punisher has no superhuman powers, but he's highly trained
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in hand to hand combat, knife fighting, firearms, explosives, military very, intelligence,
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recon infiltration, assassination, extraction, camouflage, stealth.
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And field medicine.
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He's an expert marksman with handguns, rifles, automatic weapons, shotguns, bows,
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and throwing knives, relying on strategy, preparation and his extensive arsenal.
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Also in Spider Man Brand New Day is the Hulk.
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Bruce Banner, a brilliant nuclear physicist traumatized by an abuse
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of childhood, was overseeing the test of his gamma bomb
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creation when a teenager wandered onto the blast site. Bruce
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pushed the kit to safety, but absorbed to the gamma
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radiation of the explosion that transformed him into the Hulk.
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Hunted by Army General Thunderbolt, Ross Bruce spent years seeking
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a cure, while the Hulk became both a feared menace
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and a reluctant hero, later helping found the Avengers. The
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Hulk possesses potentially limitless strength, durability, stamina, and healing, all
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of which increase with his anger. His base strength exceeds
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one hundred tons of lifting strength, and at extreme levels
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he can even cause earthquakes and emit powerful gamma energy.
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He can run at tremendous speed, leap hundreds of miles
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in a single bound, create shock waves with thunderclaps.
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His skin resists nearly all.
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Conventional weapons, and his regenerative abilities let him recover from
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otherwise fatal injuries. Also in Spider Man Brand New Day,
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briefly unfortunately, was the Scorpion. Macgargan was a morally flexible
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private investigator hired by j Jonah Jamison, the editor of
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The Daily Bugle, to uncover Peter Parker's connection to Spider Man.
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When Macgargan failed, Jamison paid doctor Farley Stillwell to fuse
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his DNA with that of a scorpion, one of the
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Spider's natural predators. The experiment granted Gargan superhuman abilities, but
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destabilized his mind, turning him into the violent Scorpion. Blaming
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Jamison for his transformation, Gargan became obsessed with killing him
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and repeatedly battled Spider Man. He later bonded with the
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Venom symbiote, served on Norman Osborne Stark Avengers as their
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version of Spider Man, and eventually returned to the Scorpion identity.
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Scorpion can lift roughly twenty.
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and withstand small arms fire. His ten foot cybernetic tail
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can strike at one hundred miles per hour, lift heavy objects,
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launch them through the air, inject poison, and sometimes fire
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laser blasts or corrosive acid. There's another big character that
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appears in Spider Man Brand New Day who has a
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vast comic book backstory, but we're not going to get
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into that because that would be a spoiler and this
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is a non spoiler review. Is Metzger, the head of
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Damage Control from the comics. Metzger was an anti mutant
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activist within the comic books. He had no association with
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Damage Control, but his backstory wasn't very big. He was
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largely confined to an X Men's story arc called Children
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of the Atom, which is fantastic and I highly suggest
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everyone read it. But no, he's an anti mutant figurehead
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that was turned into the head of damage Control in
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this movie.
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Interesting.
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I don't know what that could possibly mean. But let's
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move on to our main event now, where we review
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the latest Marvel Studios film to hit theaters, spider Man
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Brand New Day.
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All Right.
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Spider Man Brand New Day was directed by Destin Daniel
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Kretton and stars Tom Holland, Zendeia, Sadie Sink, John Burnenthal,
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Mark Ruffalo, and Tremel Tillman. It's the fourth film in
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the MCU Spider Man film series and the first without
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director John Watts, who directed the Homecoming, Far From Home
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and No Way Home trilogy, all of which were great
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Spider Man films in my opinion, with standout villains and
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great character growth for Peter Parker across all three. Brand
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New Day picks up where No Way Home ended, with
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Peter's identity forgotten by everyone he once knew.
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In the film, he.
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Copes with the isolation and the loss of his sense
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of self by diving into the role of Spider Man
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as he struggles to let over his form relationships and
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investigates the threat of this new telepathic villain. His stress
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triggers the further mutation of his powers. Along the way,
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he crosses paths with the Punisher, Black Widow, and the Hulk.
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It's a solid premise, really, this film so solid that, like,
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based on the marketing, I was pretty much convinced that
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this movie had the potential to be the greatest Spider
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Man film of all time. Like it certainly looked that
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way right.
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Cinematography wise, I would say it's definitely the best looking
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Spider Man film of all time.
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I think that's one of the best things to like
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about Spider Man Brand New Day is the feel of
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the film. Like the director, Dustin Daniel Krechtin, he takes
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the franchise in a visually distinct and tonally mature direction
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that makes I think the Spider Man Home Trilogy look
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like Saturday Morning cartoons comparatively. Like the grounded cinematography, the
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melancholic atmosphere, the musical score. Michael Gaccino came back to
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score this one with like a synth slash like ambient
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electronica vibe. Who was so fucking good. Like everything feels fresh,
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and that's probably one of the better things that I
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can say about the film. There are some camera shots
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here that had me holding my breath as he was swinging.
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Like For as much as the Amazing Spiderman franchise tried
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to capture that first person feel of swinging through New
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York City skyscrapers, it didn't get it right. This movie did,
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which is why I would recommend seeing it in theaters
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if you're going to go see it. I liked the
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amazing Spider Man swinging sequences that said this is better,
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and it kind of made me wish I would have
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seen it in three D, even though I hate three D.
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That would have been cool. That would have been cool.
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the performances. You know, like Tom Holland has never been
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better in his performance as Peter Parker, and he's always
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been great. You know, he was a believable high school sophomore.
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He's a believable young savant living in Brooklyn. The emotional
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core of the film regarding his grief over losing everyone
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he loved, it's heart wrenching. You know, you feel it,
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and it's mature, and it even goes places you wouldn't
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necessarily expect. I think that is the best part of
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the film, is its mature heart. Oh absolutely, I cared
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more about Peter's relationship with MJ in this film than
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I did about the central villain conflict.
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Oh for sure.
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Like his emotional story arc is really the only arc
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in the movie that feels satisfying. I would say, like
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everything else, from the mutation angle to the main story
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involving the mysterious villain that all ranges from like half
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baked to full on infuriating. My overall disappointment in the
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film may be controversial, especially as I said before, with
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fans who aren't familiar with the comic books. And I
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want to give a quick disclaimer, like I'm gonna be
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speaking around the villain aspect of the film because the
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villain is a spoiler, So just bear with me. Yeah,
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when you said at the top of the episode that
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you weren't looking forward to doing this review, I totally understand.
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I don't understand why Marvel needs to have these massive
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spoilers because it doesn't need to be like they could
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have revealed the spoiler in the marketing, and I would
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have been even maybe more excited to see the film.
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I agree.
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I will say that the spoiler regarding the villain involves
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a well known character from the comic books that they
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straight up characteristics, and the villain is depicted as basically
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psychopathic doing some cruel and even genuinely demented ass shit
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when they have never been that extreme in the comic
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books outside of some external influence. The personality of the
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villain was wrong, The backstory was wrong, the power level
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at this stage was wrong. Even their actions based on
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their motivations were wrong. It was also wrong that Marvel
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seems to be in competition for how wrong can we
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get this particular character. There's no reason why they should
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have been the main antagonist in the Spider Man film,
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if only for Marvel to seemingly be trying to drum
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up excitement for future projects, which is totally unnecessary because
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the excitement already exists and the villain is outside the
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scope of what a street level Spider movie should have been.
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Spider Man has the second best rouse gallery in all
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of comics. Exactly what the hell they cameoed so many
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different Spider Man villains in this movie, just in a montage,
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Like a lot of them could have been the main
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villain of this movie, including the sco Sorpion, who barely
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had any screen time. Instead, we got whatever the fuck
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this was. You know. I had a coworker who knew
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that I saw the movie, and he asked me, oh,
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is like Tombstone really cool in the movie, And I
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was like, he is in it for literally thirty seconds. Yeah,
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Scorpion is in it for like maybe three minutes. It's
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a shame what they did with the main villain arc
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in the story, especially considering that their conflict with Spidery
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could have been resolved with a single sentence. You know,
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it's like Batman Vus Superman all over again, Like none
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of these people know how to communicate with each other.
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I'm not happy with Marvel's choices. This film has a
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villain problem. It makes me wonder what the fuck has
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been happening behind the scenes with Marvel Brass, even like
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DC Studios, Like they've all been making some really dumb
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fucking decisions as of late. And I would say that
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the villain problem with this movie is right up there
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with Iron Man three's choice to make the Mandarin Trevor slattery.
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You know, at least they were able to eventually salvage
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that mistake. Hopefully this characterization of the villain doesn't take
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ten years to fix. I don't think it will. They'll
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find some path of redemption. Maybe it'll just always be
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awkward from here on out. Anyway, back to what I
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did like, I likes the characters minus the villain. I
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liked Spider Man in the movie. As I mentioned, Tom
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Holland a superb In the film, he goes full in
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on a Spider Man persona, somewhat abandoning Peter Parker due
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to his decision to protect the ones he loves. It's
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a reluctant choice because he misses his friends and MJ,
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and his arc follows him as he chooses whether to
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stick with that choice and do this all in isolation,
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or if he can balance being both Peter Parker and
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Spider Man, the latter persona becoming a metaphor really for
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the changes you experience as a young adult out on
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your own. There was also a message in here about
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how being different can feel lonely, but that people who
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do love you do it not because you're different, and
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that you shouldn't feel lonely. That message actually kind of
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put a nice little bow on all the themes within
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the film by the end of the movie, which somewhat
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salvaged the issues with the film, but only minorly. So
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how did you feel about the Spider Man costume film?
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Because I actually think it's the best one ever.
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I really liked it a lot.
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It felt much more practical and down to earth than
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his stark tech suits, you know, which he's always had
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while in the MCU. I don't know if it was
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better than the Amazing Spider Man two costume, but it
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was like right up there.
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It was, It was right up there.
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The one thing this had going over the Amazing Spider
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Man two costume was the goggles because they found a
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way to maintain like his expression with them, and I
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thought that was cool. For sure, that was part of
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a stark tech costume because prior to that he was
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using like actual goggles. But they're not outside the scope
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of what he could invent himself. Everything else on his
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suit didn't seem quite as high tech, like it was
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a nano tech suit. Like it wasn't no way home right, Yeah,
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which is nice. It would have been cool to see
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him with six arms, though, Dude, is that a spoiler
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because I want to talk about that. Probably I think
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it is a spoiler, so I would say tread carefully
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so in the marketing, what got me most excited to
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see this film was the Man Spider storyline because it's
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something that we've never seen on screen before. It's a
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storyline that they've never explored. I thought they were going
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to take it to its full extent. They didn't, and
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maybe they will in future films. I hope they do,
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because I would love to see that, But it was
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one of the things that really disappointed.
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Me about this film.
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What did you think of the Punisher in this movie,
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especially coming off the back of the One Last Kill
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special presentation we got a few months ago. Well, it
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made me miss that version of Frank. This felt like
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a very toned down version. Because of that, I kind
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of wish that there was more distance between those two projects. Yeah, totally,
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they were very different. I want to say that John
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Burnhal felt out of character in this movie. It was
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just the circumstances I think kind of lean more toward
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him being comedic relief, which I thought he actually did
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pretty well. I thought it was pretty interesting. How they
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used the character in this movie, and I think he's
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still capable of going back to that darker tone in
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his own projects, but it's nice to see how he
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can be adapted to play with the larger MCU here.
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What did you think of the Hulk?
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Hulk is cool? Really like the Hulk. I'm glad they
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found away to bring Savage Hulk back, which is not
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a spoiler because that was kind of alluded to in
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the marketing. It's my favorite version of the Hulk. Yeah,
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for sure, I think it was really clever how they
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figured out how to bring him back to I kind
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of wish he was the quote unquote Final Battle. Yeah,
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that would have been cool. That would have been cool.
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What did you think of Black Widow. I'm tired of her, honestly,
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Yelena below it that was a dumb scene. The inclusion
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did feel somewhat gratuitous. I think she was only included
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to kind of give an update on the status of
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the New Avengers and Peter's relationship with them.
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What did you think of MJ.
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I've never really cared for MJ in the past, Like
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I never really saw Michelle Zendia's character as the de
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facto MJ, and I've always kind of been waiting for
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the real MJ to make an appearance. That said, I
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think she was the best part of this movie. Like,
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I think she made this movie for the first time.
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I really liked the MJ character, and I thought Zindia
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gave a fantastic performance. She's phenomenal. I heard somewhere I
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read an article regarding the film's production that after she
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and Tom read the script, she took it to her
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own writers to do a quote unquote Zendaya pass to
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kind of add more weight to her character, and I
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think it was totally worth it. I think it was
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totally evident in the fact that her and Peter's arc
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in the film were the best part about the movie.
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There's a specific scene that like really broke my heart
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and it was so unbelievably evil on behalf of the
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main villain who shall remain nameless, that I found it
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really hard to like that character after that scene.
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Because it was brutal.
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Absolutely, but no, I definitely want more MJ more ned
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in the next film because for the first time, I
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feel like they are truly a part of this version
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of Spider Man's world and not just like superfluous side
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characters to move past.
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Like, as much as I would love to see.
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Spider Man interact with other romantic characters like Black Cat
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or something like that, I'm really interested to seeing what
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they do with the character of MJ and Peter going forward.
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Yeah.
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Despite my minor disappointment in the film, overall, I am
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interested in seeing where the franchise goes from here. Still,
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the movie's gonna make a ton of money. It's already
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broken a few records, so I'm confident that we'll get
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a continuation on this story. Hey, Supergirl broke some records too, Yeah,
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bad records. Hey, records are records. Overall, my thought on
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the movie is that despite its mature heart and distinctive direction,
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Spider Man Brand New Day squanders its potential in service
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of misguided franchise building. I am rating it three and
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a half stars out of five, still giving ge afrustrating
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though on Rotten Tomatoes, which feels harsh until you think
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about the movie's villain problem.
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For sure.
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We've said on this podcast, I think a number of
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times that superhero films live and die by their conflict,
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and in a way therefore they live and die based
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on their villain. When your villain doesn't work, the movie
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doesn't work, and the best superhero movies have the best
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villains and villain motivations. I actually think Brand New Day
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has a lot of similar issues to the Amazing Spider
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Man two, with like a villain problem despite having a
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strong emotional heart. But I can't bring myself to rate
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Brand New Day as low as three stars because faras
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flawed as Brand New Day is, it has a whole
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lot more going for it and it certainly doesn't have
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the cheese factor that the Amazing Spider Man two had, Joseph,
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are there any spoilers you can reveal, even out of context?
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Ones? Sure? Yeah.
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And Spider Man Brand New Day you can hear Black
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Widow talk about potatoes, which was weird, And Spider Man
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Brand New Day you can see Punisher cry, hey, fuck
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you not crying? And in Spider Man Brand New Day
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you can see Spider Man shoot sticky white stuff on
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his lady companion. But that's every Spider Man movie I
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feel like, and I think that's gonna be a spoiler
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for all these Spider Man projects. Again, these films are
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pure pornography that does a for our review, aj nine
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K help close us out.
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Hey Jonathan, what are you looking forward to?
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What was the big news from DC Studios coming out
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of Comic Con this year?
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So no real news.
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As to the future projects of DC Studios. I think
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that's kind of being held up by the potential acquisition
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by Paramount, which has been delayed until next year. It
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was supposed to happen by September of this year, but
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it got pushed back. So all we really got were
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trailers for Lanterns and Clayface. But both of those were
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really good. Like I had lost faith in Lanterns. But
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the introduction of Manhunters and the fact that it looks
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like to me at least that they're merging the robot
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Manhunters with the martian Manhunters, Yeah, is an interesting angle
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for sure. Yeah, we got to see Sinestro. The Lanterns
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Season one review is actually going to be our next episode,
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which is going to come out at the end of September.
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I'm looking forward to Ghost, which was announced at this
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year's Comic Con, starring Ryan Gosling. That's fucking huge, that's awesome.
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That's a Marvel fans dream. Holy cat, hold on, give
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you guys wanted that forever. We also got new casting
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for the new Black Panther. David Johnson is gonna be
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the new T'Challa. That's gonna be great. That's gonna be
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so fucking good. We also got casting for Emma Frost
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with Samorrow Weaving. That is perfect casting. I couldn't tell
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you better casting than that. That's an absolute dream. So
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there's a lot to look forward to with Marvel. At
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least I'm excited. I just said that the clay Face
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and Lantern's trailers were awesome. I have stuff to look
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forward to you as well. Not as cool, but okay,
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says you. That does it for this episode. Guys, Thank
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you so much for listening, and we'll talk to you
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next time. Aren't you to admit that DC is better?
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No what popping away then? True believers.
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I'm sick of all these non spoiler reviews, so I'm
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just gonna say it. The villain is paste pot Pete.
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You're welcome.
