Big Hero 6 Review - Special Guest Dustyn Balcom

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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic
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Marvelous Joe and I was twin brother Johnny

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we are going to be reviewing the twenty

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fourteen animated Disney film Big Hero Six, which is based off of a Marvel

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comic book. Yeah, not a
lot of people knew that. Yeah,

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the comic book team Big Hero six
came out in I think it was ninety

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eight. The series was actually called
Sunfire and Big Hero six if I recall

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correctly, but I think their better
run came out in two thousand and eight,

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which included the team that was in
the Big Hero six animated film.

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The setting in the comics takes place
in Tokyo, and while Big Hero Six

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certainly wouldn't qualify as an anime,
it does have a lot of Japanese influence.

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And to review the film with us, we have our very own executive

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producer, Dustin Belcom joining us,
who's a big anime fan and even had

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his own podcast dedicated to it called
What in the anime, so look forward

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to that later on. In the
episode. Before that, we're going to

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break down the comic book movie news
from the past week, of which there

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was like nothing. There was no
news, so we are left to comment

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on a rumor that was put out
there last week that Adam Drivers and Final

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Talks to play read Richards aka Mister
Fantastic in the MCU's Fantastic four film.

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We don't usually like commenting on rumors, but if we had a comment on

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anyone, this one seems like the
most interesting, whether it's true or not.

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feel gave the best answer to our
question of the week. Last week's question

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was coming off of the recent teaser
trailer for The Marvels. We asked which

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hero is your favorite out of Captain
Marvel, Photon, and Miss Marvel and

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why? And we got three answers, So we have two honorable mentions and

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no Prize winner. Our first honorable
mention goes to Zach Wilder, who said,

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hey guys, Zach Wilder here.
Out of these three characters, I'd

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say Photon was my favorite. I
really liked her in Captain Marvel one and

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then you see her again in Wanda
Vision. I'm just really intrigued by what

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this character has to offer in this
film, and I think she's gonna probably

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be my favorite character of the three
in this upcoming The Marvel's film. Yeah,

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I think Photon seemed the most compelling
to me from the initial teaser trailer,

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and I don't know if that's because
her costume looks hellidope or because her

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power set is really interesting. But
yeah, really looking forward to seeing how

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they develop Maria Rambo in the upcoming
film. Yeah, honestly, I thought

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she was the breakout star of the
trailer. Like if you didn't see WandaVision,

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probably pretty intrigued by her character and
what she could do if they remember

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her as a little girl from the
first Captain Marvel movie. That relationship with

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her quote Aunt Carol, I think
will be an interesting one worth exploring in

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the movie. But great answer,
Zech. Our next honorable mention goes to

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Alex Wong, who said high dynamic
dual. Alex won here, and I

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think I like Photon the best because
I think she has an unique power set

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and I didn't really enjoy Molton in
her show or teching Marvel movie that rang,

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So thanks. Yeah, I'm actually
really curious to see how they're going

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to portray Photon's powers in this movie. I remember our duel that we did

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with her between her and Obsidian,
so I know that she has slightly different

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powers from Carol Danvers Captain Marvel and
her powers are really something we didn't get

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to see a whole lot of in
the Wanda Vision series, so yeah,

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I'm interested in seeing them. Yeah, so far between the teaser and Wanda

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Vision, her main power component seems
to be going intangible, though we know

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she can shoot blasts too, we've
seen her do that, but it'll be

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really fun to explore the rest of
her abilities in the Marvel's film. Thanks

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for the answer, Alex, But
the winner of this week's no prize is

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Tye Nicely. You said, Hey, this is Tye Nicely with the time

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Ni's podcast. Great question. Without
too much knowledge on Maria Rambo or Photon,

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I would probably have to say Miss
Marvel Kamala Khan only because of how

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extensive her powers can be and how
chaotic they can be as well. I

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feel like Captain Marvel's kind of just
basic, but Miss Marvel has some uniqueness

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to it. Yeah, I'm not
sure if I would describe Miss Marvel's powers

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as chaotic unless you're referring to her
inexperience using them, although it does look

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like in general them using their powers
will result in the chaos of them switching

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places, which seems like a great
hook into the Marvel's film. But yeah,

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I like Miss Marvell. I thought
she was great in her television series

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as portrayed by newcomer Amanvelani. I
really liked in the teaser trailer how she

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came across as very like fan girly
to her idol that is Captain Marvel,

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and she just looks like she's going
to be like the heart of the movie

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and bring a lot of fun to
it. Yeah. Absolutely definitely looking forward

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to sink the heart that she brings. I agree. Congrats again to Tie

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Niceley for winning this week's no Prize. If you the listener want to shout

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at winning your own no Prize,
stay tuned to later on this episode when

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we'll be asking another question of the
week. And now that that's done,

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on to the news. All right, we didn't want to do it,

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but the powers that be at Marvel
and DC left us no choice but to

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report on rumors. While I'm loath
to do it. It is quite an

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interesting review that came out from Scooper, Daniel rp K or Daniel Rickman,

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who is inconsistent at best. But
the rumor is that Adam Drivers and final

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talks with Marvel to play the character
of Read Richards. If it is true,

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it could be interesting. Adam Driver's
name has been connected to the Fantastic

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four reboot for a while now.
A lot of fans speculated that he might

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be playing Victor von Doom, possibly
because he played a villain Kylo Wren in

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the Star Wars franchise, and he
actually would make a fantastic doctor Doom.

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I think, probably a better Doom
than Read Richards, but I think he

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would also make an interesting Read Richards. And apparently, according to the scoops,

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he was offered both roles. I
did not read that. Actually,

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that's pretty interesting. We know that
he has the qualities to play Victor von

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Doom. He doesn't quite physically look
like Read Richards, mister Fantastic in the

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comics, though that being said,
he does have an air of intelligence about

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him that I think would suit that
character well. I think he's also,

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you know, like pretty long physically, which does that mean you not what

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the I mean? Tall and lanky? Sick? What are you ever here

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talking about? Adam Drivers? A
length dude is tall and lanky? This

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is weird, but I can see
that suiting his elastic ability is pretty well.

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He'd probably have to dye his hair
just a shade lighter and definitely incorporate

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the graying temples. Yeah, I
don't think Adam Driver needs the graying temples.

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I think he's way too young for
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need to fake that he needs the
graying temples. I'm sorry, but you're

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wrong. That's the essential part of
Read Richard's look. I would just like

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shave the sides of his head so
it's like lighter. Yeah, like Ultimate

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Fantastic four. Is that what they
did there? Yeah, you're that's a

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garbage opinion. I don't want to
hear that again. If he is Read

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and he does get the hair do
and stuff like that, I think it'd

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be pretty interesting to see how it
all turns out, because, honestly,

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you know, when they cast Benedict
Cumberbatch as doctor Strange, I didn't quite

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see it physically, largely because I
had never seen Benedict Cumberbatch with a goatee,

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and I I think that's what sells
it. And now I think a

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cumberbatches like the spitting image of Stephen
Strange. So it's interesting how these casting

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transformations kind of play out. But
That's basically all we have to say about

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it, because it's just a rumor. Yeah it will be interested in seeing

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how this all pans out. Allegedly
the casting announcements for The Fantastic for our

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right around the corner. We'll see
if that actually happens though. But speaking

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of this rumor, that brings us
to our question of the week. If

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Adam Drivers cast as mister Fantastic,
who would you cast as Doctor Doom?

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But that does it for all the
news for this episode, So let's go

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ahead and get into our main event
and get Dustin Balcom on the line as

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we review the Disney animated film Big
Hero Six Okay, so Big Hero six

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is an animated movie produced by Walt
Disney Animation Studios in twenty fourteen, starring

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Ryan Potter and Scott Atsitt as the
voices of Hero and bay Max, respectively.

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The film is adapted from a lesser
known Marvel comics team, which was

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created in nineteen ninety eight by the
Man of Action Writer's Collective, which was

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also responsible for creating such television characters
as Ben Ten. But the Big Hero

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six Marvel comic was about Japan's government
sanctioned superhero team. And speaking of Japan

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and animation, we have today Dynamic
Duel's very own executive producer, Dustin Belcolm,

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who for a while had an anime
podcast called What in the Anime?

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How are you doing? Dustin?
I'm doing fantastic. Guys, can't wait

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to talk about one of my favorite
Disney movies. Is this one of your

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favorite? It's for sure one of
mine? Oh yeah, by far.

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Yeah. It tugs the heartstrings more
than the rest, I feel for sure.

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Usually I prefer like Pixar's movies,
but when it comes to like Walt

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Disney animated computer movies, this is
probably in my top three for sure.

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But in regards to the whole Marvel
in DC thing, Dustin, we know

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that your team Marvel, right,
but you used to be Team DC on

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our Discord channel. So tell us
about your tumultuous past and how you eventually

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came to see the light. So
I like to say I'm a fan of

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both. I grew up on DC
content mostly, but X Men and Spider

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Man were a huge part. And
after watching the Batman movie, I just

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couldn't I couldn't do DC no more. Yeah. Yeah, the movie did

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suck. It's too long? Am
I right? Am I? Right?

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Yeah? I think I checked my
watch like three times in the theaters.

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It's like that, Jonathan, how
many times did you check your watch for

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Endgame? Not once? I was
entertained the whole time. His eyes were

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glued to the screen. Yep,
glued. I was in. I was

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focused. Yeah. Let that be
a lesson to the rest of Team DC.

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Marvel's just better. Dustin knows it. I'd like to think that Dustin

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in his heart still loves DC.
He's just in a confused stage in his

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life right now. In addition to
being a fan of DC and Marvel,

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you also have a big love for
anime films and have had a podcast about

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it called One in the Anime.
I'm curious, how did you get into

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anime watching oh Man? So I
start watching your anime at a very very

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young age, like elementary school.
I used to go to Hastings and rent

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the DVDs and watch him at home, like Gun Dumb, Ultraman, Dragon

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Ball and stuff like that. So
that's how I got it to an anime.

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Nice. My wife has a verb
subscription, although I guess the verve

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is ending and going back into crunchy
Roll. But as she recently got me

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into some anime stuff, We've been
watching a lot of Miyazaki films though so

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nothing really too deep. I do
like to watch Todyko. I don't know

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if you're familiar with that. It's
like Dragon ball Z but with food.

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It's really weird interesting. I haven't
watched that one. I think you mentioned

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that before, and I've been meaning
to check that one out. Did you

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know that stan Lee made an anime? Stan Lee made an anime? Yes,

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with Studio Bones. Stan Lee made
an anime called hero Man. It

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aired in round twenty ten to two
thousand and eleven. It is on crunchy

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Roll. As well. Is it
pretty good? Have you watched it?

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It's not half bad. I watched
a couple episodes. Interesting, it's pretty

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cool. I'll have to check that
out. I've been trying to get Joseph

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to watch Yeah Genesis Evan Gillian,
which is my favorite anime for years,

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and he just never takes any of
my watching recommendations. Air takes the shit

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out of me never. It's kind
of my police. Whenever Jonathan tells me

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to watch something, I'll wait five
years and then get around to watching it,

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Like Game of Thrones happened time and
time again. It's it's kind of

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funny, though, that's not It's
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him, or you know the fact
that you're twins and you just like to

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rebel. There you go, There
you go. What is your favorite anime?

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Dustin oh um favorite anime? That's
a tough one. I like Full

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Metal Alchimist Brotherhood. That's probably one
of my top ones. I also really

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like Cowboy Bebop. There's there's a
ton I watched too much anime. Nice

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Now, you would not consider Big
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right, because it was produced in
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anime, So typically what defines an
anime is Japanese animation, although that's kind

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of getting blurred now because you're having
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as anime that are coming out of
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actually been making a lot lately interesting, so for me, it's just kind

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of like a foreign animation style that
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But it's kind of an art style
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always had a big debate on if
Avatar the Last Airbender's anime, and

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I always say no because Nickelodeon made
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starting to make anime, it's kind
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Big Hero six, we know that
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and anime that inspired both the Marvel
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production notes that said that the character
designers wanted bay Max to be huggable in

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the same vein as Toto. Okay, I could see that, so he

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heavily inspired that whole thing, because
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he is in the comics. But
it's interesting that looking at the history of

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animation and comics, it was Walt
Disney, his Mickey Mouse character that inspired

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Osamu Tezuka, the creator of Astro
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manga, which are our Japanese comics. So Tazuka inspired this whole art style

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that would go on to define manga
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Western modern animation and comics. So
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it all came full circle from Mickey
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to Mickey Mouse with this Big Hero
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and Eastern animation styles have inspired each
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But let's go ahead and talk about
the movie. And I want to

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give a spoiler alert to anyone who's
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because this will be a spoiler review, as all of our reviews are.

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But dustin Big Hero six, you're
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what do you like about it?
I think I just like the little nods

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towards anime in general. I like
the overall story. I feel like it

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has one of those kind of pulling
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me of superhero films and anime and
the fact that I feel like no anime

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or superhero film has parents. Yeah
right, they always have some tragic loss

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in them at some point. Yeah, they all have to be orphans.

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One of the big themes is like
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that is very much a tried and
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because we've seen it in things like
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King Up. But what makes this
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superheroes, which I think just makes
everything better. But one of the things

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I was most impressed by this film
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and portmanteau of Tokyo and San Francisco. It's almost like the setting is its

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own character in the film and the
realization of it with like the golden tory

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gate bridges, the cable car,
bullet train, and like the pagoda style

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skyscrapers. It's so incredible and probably
one of the coolest settings of any film

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ever. Yeah, I really enjoyed
that part and I looked up a little

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bit on how they came up with
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director and them actually visited Tokyo and
even went to the extreme of seeing how

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they placed boxes out for their recycling
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Yeah, the comic book takes place
in Tokyo, so I wasn't quite sure

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why they chose to set this in
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do appreciate the creativity behind it.
I had forgotten that this movie took place

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in this amalgam version of Tokyo and
San Francisco, but once I saw that,

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I was like, Oh, that's
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realized. Yeah, for sure.
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its scientific approach, where you essentially
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their knowledge to become superheroes. Like
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movie, and that was just fascinating
with Tony Stark. But I love how

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Big Hero six kind of takes that
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the comics, only hero was the
scientist, like Go Go, she was

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an ex con. Honey Lemon was
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and Fred was just a cool teenager
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But his powers were way better than
Fred's in this movie, Dustin, did

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you ever read the Big Hero Six
comics. I've looked at them, I

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haven't read a whole lot of them, but I didn't know that bay Max

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is like a green like looking thing. Yeah. Well, bay Max can

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transform into a dragon, which is
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techno transformer type thing. He's a
mecca. He also can transform into like

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this guy wearing a suit when he
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Bay Max is probably more different than
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adaptation. They're all kind of different, but it's not like they're unrecognizably different.

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There's still a lot of similarities between
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the comics, and we could go
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with Hero Hammada, who was played
by Ryan Potter. I just learned that

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the actor for Hero was Ryan Potter. Of course, I know him best

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as beast Boy in the Titans television
series, so to see him doing this

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was pretty interesting because now he's played
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Yeah. I didn't realize this was
Ryan Potter either. I didn't realize until

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like the end of the film,
and it made me wish like I would

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have recognized that earlier, so I
could have just appreciated the performance a little

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bit more. He does a fantastic
job in this role. Dustin, Do

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you watch Titans the television series,
the one on HBO. Yeah, yes,

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I think, kind of like one
season behind. I just finished the

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Red Hood stuff. Okay, Yeah, the fourth season hasn't finished yet,

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so you're not really too far behind. That's good. Yeah, it's a

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great flipping show. I love that
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is most like his comic book counterpart, except in the books his last name

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is Takachiho and he wears glasses.
But everything else was pretty much on point

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with like the anime hair and everything
in this film. In regards to his

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arc, I thought it was interesting
how his initial motivations ran parallel with the

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villains. Who is Professor Callahan,
as it's later revealed, because they're both

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struggling to cope with the loss of
a family member. They're both angry and

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they're both lashing out violently. But
what's fascinating is that with Hero's journey,

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once he processes his loss, he
comes full circle to the lessons of his

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brother Tadashi, and his motivation becomes
to help others like Tadashi wanted and just

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like how she ran into that burning
building saying, quote, someone has to

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help. At the end of Big
Hero six, Hero flew into the portal

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to save Callahan's daughter, saying the
exact same line, someone has to help.

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And that was kind of like the
defining moment for the character. I

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think, an incredible character building.
Yeah, that was my thoughts. Exactly

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was that line when he said that, It just it felt like everything came

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full circle. And like Callahan,
I don't know if it's like different when

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you lose a child over the sibling
or a parent, But I don't know.

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Maybe that's why he could never fully
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would act if I lost one of
my kids. Yeah, I think it'll

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hit a little bit different when you
know you're responsible for someone and they lose

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their life as compared to you know, an older brother who you know he

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was still young and still had a
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know, accomplished in his own right. You know, a Professor Callahan needed.

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He needed a bay Max, just
like we all need a bay Max.

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We all. Bay Max was played
by Scott adds It, who I

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think gives one of the all time
great voice performances as bay Max. He's

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such a like a wonderfully cute,
unassuming and yet somehow badass character. Completely

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different from the comics as we discuss
though, because he's not you know,

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like a Mecca who can transform into
a green dragon. Yeah, he's badass

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without like realizing he's badass, which
makes him even more badass. Yeah,

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exactly. But like anyone who watches
this movie, including myself, you'd be

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lying if you didn't say that you
wanted a bay Max for your own just

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to like look after you and your
well being and like just hug you know,

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every once in a while. It
looks very huggable. I just love

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the voice of bay Max. Like
between Hell nine thousand and the lady who

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does the voice of Gladys in the
Portal of Video Games, bay Max is

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like my third favorite robot voice.
It's just funny. I like the idiosyncrasies

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of the character, like when you
first see him, and how he kind

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of just like looks around the room
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Things like that, Just those little, small little details are so endearing

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to the character. I don't love
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but I can forgive it easily because
what Disney invented here with the character is

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just such quality. You can't not
love Bamax totally. Now he's like super

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iconic now, like he's the only
one who went on to get his own

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show, right, has anyone seen
that? I haven't seen it. I

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haven't seen it either, but I
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so there were two spinoff shows from
this movie. One of them was Big

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Hero six to the series, which
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And then there was Baymax, which
basically just follows the character of Baymax as

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a healthcare robot in San Franco.
Kio. Okay, I didn't know that

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they had their own cartoon the way
when you say it left off, do

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you mean like it left off from
the end credit scene. No, just

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with them as superheroes as a superhero
team. Now, Okay, So like

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the Stanley character wasn't a character that
I don't know, but we could talk

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about that. I'll admit this is
actually the first time I saw the movie

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through the end credit, so I'd
never seen the Stanley cameo until yesterday,

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and it was fucking epic. I
loved that cameo. Have you seen it,

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Dustin? Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen it. I also

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love that when they're walking down the
hall, you see the portrait of Stanley

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with a little friend by them.
Yeah, I caught that. Apparently this

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whole Stanley cameo thing happened at the
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like within the last few months before
the movie came out, because the

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directors went and saw I think it
was like Thor of the Dark World or

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Winter Soldier or something like that,
and they noticed that they both had Stanley

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cameos, and they're like, oh
shit, we got to put a Stanley

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cameo in our movie since it's a
Marvel Comics adaptation. So they made it

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so like Stanley was this superhero father
who wore his underwear front back inside out,

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front back, which is so gross
that I mean, I'll do the

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inside out thing, but I won't
do the front back thing. I have

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my standards, so I'm of the
opinion and I may be in the minority

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here, especially with Marvel fans,
that Stanley doesn't need to be in everything,

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especially and stuff that he didn't help
create. Now, I'm not familiar

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with Man of Action or what or
who that is, but I kind of

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feel like they probably deserved to have
a cameo over stan Lee. Well.

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Man of Action is a collective that
was started by Joe Kelly, and I

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actually think it was a creator named
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But you got to have Stanlee in
all these movies. I'm like,

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so sad Stanley isn't around to do
cameos anymore, because although he didn't create

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every Marvel character, he represents Marvel
like no one else can. He created

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most of their characters. He was
the chairman emeritus for decades. Yeah,

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here's a face of Marvel and you're
talking crap on a guy who even did

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a cameo for the rival in teen
Times. Go that's true, that's fair.

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Let's go ahead and move on to
go go to Mago, who was

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played by Jamie Chung. You guys
might recognize Jamie Chung as Miho from the

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movie Since City. She also voiced
the character of Death in the DC showcase

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shorts and Cheshier in Batman Solo of
the Dragon, who we recently just did

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a dual episode with. Yeah,
again, this is another cast member that

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I didn't realize was in this role. The voice cast is way more oppressive

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than I would have thought initially just
going into this, and especially the first

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time I saw the movie. Jimmy
Chunk has major street cred in the fandom

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community, so that was cool to
see that she was in this movie as

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well. Even though it's a very
minor role. It is Yeah, she

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actually plays a larger role in the
comics. I think she's pretty similar to

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the books in this movie in terms
of like her badass attitude. She's like

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the cool badass of the group.
In the comics, she was part of

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this motorcycle gang like the one in
Akira, but she ended up getting arrested

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and she arranged a deal to test
pilot this exosuit that could envelope her and

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energy and turn her into energy and
she could move super fast. But I

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actually think I like the Magla Wheel's
concept in this movie even more. Yeah.

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I really enjoyed her in the movie
a lot, and it also gave

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me those vibes with those disks of
like Tron. Yeah, yeah, totally

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pretty cool. I think of all
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I would want her powers the most
because like the shields that she was able

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to use an addition to the wheels
were just really cool and she could throw

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them. I think that's the trine
aspect that I really liked. They were

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like Captain America's shield the way they
would ricochet and come back to her.

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Yeah, bangetically they would return to
her. That was just badass. So

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what I'm hearing is Johnny like Captain
America. Yeah, that's what you want

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00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:42.240
to hear. We all heard it. We all heard it. Let's go

405
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:47.319
ahead and move on to Honey Lemon, who was played by Genesis Rodriguez.

406
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:51.160
I thought Honey Lemon was fine here. She was inconsistent in what she called

407
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.880
hero like. Sometimes she would call
him hero and then other times she was

408
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:59.160
more like Hito rhymes with Cheeto.
I thought that was a little bit weird.

409
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.279
But in the comics, Honey Lemon
was a secret agent whose research team

410
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.839
developed the power purse, which was
a purse with miniature wormholes inside of it,

411
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.240
from which she could pull out literally
anything that she wanted to. That

412
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.799
sounds of way cooler. Yeah,
I mean here it was kind of interesting

413
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.640
because it looked like she could like
mix chemicals in her purse and then pull

414
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.240
out chemical weapons. I thought it
was pretty creative. How sometimes she would

415
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.440
like make goop or ice or smoke
or things like that. But the ability

416
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.960
to pull out anything like in the
comics, it's kind of more interesting.

417
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.519
I think it's like a green lantern
ring or something. Sounds like the purse

418
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.519
from Harry Potter. I'm trying to
remember what that is. There was a

419
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.119
person, Harry. Yeah, Hermione
has that person like she just reaches and

420
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.720
pulls out whatever. Oh my wife
is going to give me shit for not

421
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.640
remembering that. Oh, how dare
you? I guess it's time for me

422
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.000
to rewatch the movies. Then let's
going to move on to with Sabi,

423
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.640
who was played by DamID Wayne's junior. I really like DamID Wayne's junior.

424
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.319
He reminds me so much of his
dad, Like their voices are so identical.

425
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.279
It's uncanny, right, But I
think I like the original character from

426
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:10.079
the comics more than how he was
adapted in this film, which felt kind

427
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.279
of generic, like there was nothing
really too Wasabi. In the comics,

428
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:18.039
Wasabi no Ginger was a Japanese sushi
chef who could manifest these chi blades that

429
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.680
he would use for like cooking sushi
or for attacking. He also had twin

430
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.759
katana as well, but in this
movie his blades are plasma, which fits

431
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.799
with the science themes of the film, but to me, it's less interesting

432
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:36.599
than chi. Right, So he
was like a bladed version of iron fist.

433
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.359
Yeah, that's a good way to
put it. Instead of manifesting his

434
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.319
chee into a powerful punch, he
would manifest it into these knei daggers that

435
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.440
he could throw. Wasabi was probably
my least favorite character in the movie.

436
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.079
He was just way too whiny.
But there was that one part when they

437
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.720
were about to be smashed by that
a shipping container and that he was doing

438
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:59.240
that scream that reminded me of how
his dad was in Living Color. It

439
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.759
was just so dustin. What did
you think of Asabi? I imagine not

440
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.200
much because he's rather generic. Yeah, he was pretty generic. I thought

441
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.720
he was decent, like kind of
funny because he was an OCD over the

442
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.599
top rule follower, like as they're
in the car chase, he stops at

443
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.559
the red light. Even that was
good. He signaled and go goes like,

444
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.680
are you signaling right now? I
did think he was a little bit

445
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.559
too cavalier with those like invisible lasers
at the very beginning when he met Hero.

446
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.960
It's like, dude, you can't
just like leave that around without a

447
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.759
warning sign or like unprotected straight up
cut you. Yeah, you know,

448
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:40.319
barriers, no robes, no nothing, just walk right in exactly. Yeah,

449
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.559
he needed to cover it up or
something because somebody would just straight up

450
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:48.319
walk into that thing and just you
know, fucking die. Almost gruesome.

451
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.599
Way, let's go ahead and move
on to the final member of the Big

452
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.799
Hero six team, Fred, who
was voiced by TJ. Miller, probably

453
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.880
better known to Marvel and DC fans
as Weasel in the Deadpool movie. Fred,

454
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.920
for me is the only character of
the film I don't like. I

455
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.960
don't know if it's a TJ.
Miller's annoying voice or if the character was

456
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.839
just written to be annoying, but
I could not imagine being a fledgling scientist

457
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.519
at this institute having some weird ass
guy who doesn't changes underwear come over to

458
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.680
me and start asking me if it's
possible to make him an invisible sandwich.

459
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:25.799
I'd be like, get the fuck
out of here, man Security say,

460
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.039
I don't know, Fred was my
favorite, really, Okay, explain I

461
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:35.359
just like, Okay, I don't
know why, but I gravitate towards liking

462
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.640
the dumb characters and like animes,
and it happened in this one as well.

463
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.000
Like, I don't know, he
just he's so flipping funny. He

464
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.359
cares more about sandwiches, wanted to
become a lizard, and everyone's like all

465
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:52.079
these serious scientists and he's spinning signs. He is endearing. I mean,

466
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.319
he'd probably be fun to party with, but then like I'd probably want him

467
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.720
to go away. It was kind
of cool how he ended up being like

468
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.960
the Bruce Wayne of the group,
where he was like secretly rich and had

469
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.599
this mansion that they could use as
a headquarters and training ground and stuff like

470
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.519
that. He's a rip off of
Shaggy Rogers. Who's that, Scooby doo

471
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.319
Oh, Shaggy Shaggy. You can't
say Shaggy Rogers. No one knows who

472
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:21.079
that is so a rip off of
Shaggy because in the cartoons and stuff.

473
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.119
I don't know if you guys ever
watched like the pump named Scooby Doo or

474
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:29.119
The Kids and everything, but that
Shaggy is super wealthy. Really yeah,

475
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.039
yeah, he has a mansion like
Scooby has a mansion doghouse that he lives

476
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:37.160
in and everything. This shutters like
everything I knew about Scooby Doo. I

477
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.519
don't know they were rich the whole
time. I thought Fred was rich on

478
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.200
Scooby Doo, but I didn't know
Shaggy was. I thought he was like

479
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.480
some like broke stoner living out of
his VW. I think it depends on

480
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.359
which series you watch. But when
I was a kid and they had the

481
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.400
pump named Scooby Doo, he was
rich in that interesting total rip off of

482
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:59.119
Shaggy then yep, top off.
I also didn't care too much for Fred,

483
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:05.279
but mostly just because I didn't really
like the way they depicted his powers,

484
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.320
like he was in this robotic suit
that didn't look robotic whatsoever. I

485
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.079
don't know, It's just bothered me
for some reason. Well, he was

486
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.800
the school mascot, right, so
it was kind of like a play on

487
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.719
that. It was almost like a
mascot suit. I do have to say

488
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.480
in the comics, Fred is way
cooler because he grew up on this outskirt

489
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.920
Japanese island near where the atomic bombs
were dropped, and he's a descendant of

490
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.440
the inhabitants there who were irradiated and
mutated. And Fred can transform himself into

491
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.000
a giant kaiju monster that looks like
Godzilla. His superhero name is fred Zilla,

492
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.920
but he doesn't like just transform.
He can also like project the aura

493
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.599
of his inner kaiju and give his
human form increased strength. It's badass.

494
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.320
Fred is way cooler in the comics
for sure. Yeah, I definitely didn't

495
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.440
like the suit in the movie,
but the reason I liked Fred was all

496
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.280
personality. Let's go to move on
to the villain of the movie. It

497
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.480
was known as the Yokai A Robert
Callahan played by James Cromwell. A lot

498
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.840
of Marvel and DC fans might know
James Cromwell better as Captain George Stacey from

499
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.159
the Spider Man three movie. So
a lot of actors here that did a

500
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.679
lot of other superhero stuff. But
James Cromwell as we all know is a

501
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.000
classic actor. I think he performed
well here, and while he looks cool

502
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.320
as a villain and has those cool
lego powers, I do have some questions

503
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.559
about the things that he did in
this movie. So I'm going to go

504
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.280
over basically his plan and see if
you guys can help me understand what's going

505
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.599
on. Basically, Robert Callahan was
this robotics genius. His daughter was a

506
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:42.039
test pilot for Cray Tech Industries.
She disappeared, he got angry, He

507
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.079
went back to his day job,
but obviously still harboring a deep seated murderous

508
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.519
rage for Kray. My issue with
him is this, if he had the

509
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.320
ability to reactivate the portal technology,
which we saw him do in this movie,

510
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.159
why didn't he use his microbot Legos
to probe the portal and find his

511
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.280
daughter, even if he didn't have
a scanner to locate her. Professor Callahan

512
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.239
was supposed to be a genius,
so I feel like he could have easily

513
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.239
made one, But instead of doing
that, he chooses to steal heroes rather

514
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.400
rudimentary design. I think I don't
know why you're going to come up with

515
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:22.079
that. Either, he goes full
supervillain wearing a kabuki mask and uses the

516
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.639
portal to suck up craze office building. Can someone rationalize that? Yeah,

517
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.840
so I can only rationalize like half
of that. Part of it is as

518
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.639
far as like why he didn't develop
something to search for his daughter. I

519
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.440
think he just assumed she died because
of how they actually went in the explosion,

520
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.639
Like he just thought she was gone, she was dead, that was

521
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.000
the end of it. So then
he held onto that anger. I don't

522
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:46.440
know why he went back to his
jay job or why he had still a

523
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:52.960
kid's school project as his way of
taking out his revenge, But yeah,

524
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.000
recreating the portal to destroy that guy, I think it was more of a

525
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.599
this portal ruined my life, so
I'm going to use it to ruin yours

526
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.400
as well. That sounds about right. I feel like there's got to be

527
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:06.440
a better, less convoluted way to
off somebody at a revenge, you know,

528
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.400
Like why didn't Professor Callahan just like
I don't know, shoot the guy

529
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.360
in the face, to have him
in a dark alley something like that.

530
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:15.960
I feel like that would be way
easier than what he did here. That's

531
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:21.159
very true. So I understand a
lot of your concerns, especially the one

532
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.440
where it's like, well, why
didn't he come up with the invention that

533
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.679
Hero came up with with the microbots? Considering that earlier in the film,

534
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.880
they explained that he basically invented the
technology that made that possible, so you

535
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.800
should have been able to think of
it at the very least. Of course,

536
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.559
he decided to steal it. I
guess once he saw the potential,

537
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.639
and it had a lot of potential. I think the microbots are probably the

538
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.360
coolest thing in this movie. But
of course he needed those to get to

539
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:51.760
the bottom of the ocean to recover
some of the portal machinery and components to

540
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.079
get that rebuilt. You could argue
that he probably figured his daughter was dead.

541
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.480
Like you mentioned, though, Joseph, you know, he's probably smart

542
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.079
enough to at least check to at
least rebuild it and see if his daughter

543
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.280
is in there. If he loved
her enough, why didn't he go searching

544
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.239
for her? I know, as
a father, I would, But I

545
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:12.360
would also make the case that maybe
he wanted to get his revenge prior to

546
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.239
that, because if he ended up
lost in space or dead, who knows

547
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.800
where that partle went. His daughter
would not have been avenged. So you

548
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.199
know, we don't know what his
plan was after dismantling Krai's new like university

549
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.559
or whatever, but it could have
been to go searching for his daughter.

550
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.440
That's valid. I'll allow that.
It's now part of my head cannon that

551
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.639
after he killed Craig he was gonna
go searching for his daughter. I think

552
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.639
that makes sense with the microbots,
yeah right. What I don't get though,

553
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.480
is the kabuki mask. Was it
like just to throw people off.

554
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.480
It's like, there's no way this
dead guy would do cultural appropriation right,

555
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.880
probably because I do remember being surprised
the first time I saw this movie at

556
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.760
the reveal of who the villain was. Yeah, it was a pretty good

557
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.440
shot, but no, yeah,
you're right, they're like, oh,

558
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:06.719
look this guy, this villain,
he couldn't possibly be anything other than Japanese.

559
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.280
That's probably the whole point. What
a dick. The final character I

560
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.000
want to talk about is Tadashi Hamada. There's not too much to say about

561
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.159
him. I feel like Tadashi died
for nothing, really like. I like

562
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.280
the character. I get that he
served as a big inspiration to Hero,

563
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.639
but when you break it down,
if Tadashi never ran into that building,

564
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.880
Professor Kellahan still would have stole the
microbot's Hero and his last remaining microbot would

565
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.159
have still discovered Kellahan's plan. They
probably would have done something to stop it.

566
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:43.400
Regardless, I feel like Tadashi was
around to inspire Hero anyway, So

567
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.719
it felt like inserting Tadashi's death into
this plot was done just for the sake

568
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.280
of doing it, because that's what
Disney does. Thoughts, that's kind of

569
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.519
I felt too. Is he definitely
got the Uncle Ben treatment. Yeah,

570
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.159
but I don't know. The only
the only way I rationalize it is it

571
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.920
also gave Hero that moment at the
end where he you know, someone has

572
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760
to do it moment, So that
was cool. But yeah, like you

573
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.400
said, I don't think it was
needed either, because Tadashi was the one

574
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.119
who got him to go to the
school in the first place instead about fighting,

575
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.159
like he was already the slight positive
role model to Hero. Yeah.

576
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:21.519
Yeah, you're absolutely right, Joseph. He didn't need to die. And

577
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.239
I didn't even think about it until
you said it. And now I'm just

578
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.880
kind of upset with Disney for trying
to manipulate me and talk of my heart

579
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.840
strings, but I think that doesn't
for all the characters. Let's go ahead

580
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.440
and get into the story highlights.
So in the city of San Franciokio,

581
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.679
fourteen year old genius Hero Hammada hustles
an underground robot fighting ring and gets in

582
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.239
trouble. His brother Tadashi takes him
to his research lab at the San Franci

583
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:49.159
Kio Institute of Technology, where he
hopes to inspire better things for Hero's brilliant

584
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.159
mind. I loved the intro to
this movie. My daughters and I are

585
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.199
big BattleBots fans. I got Discovery
Plus just so we could watch that.

586
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.760
So just to see these robots like
dream battle bot robots like fight each other

587
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.800
was really cool. Hero had a
really cool robot that would just like love

588
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:08.960
to recreate in real life and just
own all the other bots. It was

589
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:14.320
such a great hustle too, the
way he conned that battle Bots master,

590
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.400
and then how that culminated in Hero
saying like, oh, it's not illegal

591
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.519
to battle bots, it's just illegal
to bet on it, and then he

592
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.679
like is holding out the cash one
they get stopped by the police. That

593
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.400
was funny. At the institute,
Hero is introduced to go Go, Tomago,

594
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.760
Honey, Lemon, was Sabi and
Fred, as well as Baymax,

595
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:38.400
an inflatable healthcare robot that Tadashi invented. He's convinced to join the Institute by

596
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.159
Professor Callahan, Tadashi's mentor, and
signs up to compete in a science fair

597
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.079
for the opportunity to enroll. Inspired
by his battle robot design, Hero invents

598
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.239
the microbot, which he displays at
the fair, wowing the audience. Tech

599
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.960
mogul Alistir Cray offers to buy the
patent, but Professor Callahan convinces Hero not

600
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.719
to sell and to join thetitute.
As Hero and his brothers celebrate the science

601
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.679
of her building catches fire, prompting
Tadashi to go in to save Callahan.

602
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.559
There's an explosion moments later, however, which kills Tadashi. Was he running

603
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.760
the science program just to eventually like
find some kind of scientific gadget that one

604
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:20.960
of his students made that would allow
him to get his revenge, Like,

605
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.480
I don't know why he waited up
until that moment. That's true. The

606
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:28.800
timing is questionable, right. My
guess is that Hero's invention was just so

607
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.320
revolutionary that he saw as his moment
to strike. Otherwise, who knows what

608
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.840
the hell would have happened. He
probably would have just gone on the rest

609
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.800
of his life. Who knows.
Weeks after his brother's death, a depressed

610
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:45.519
Hero accidentally activates Bamax, who attempts
to alleviate his mental state. Baymax and

611
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.639
Hero followed the last remaining microbot to
an old warehouse, where they find the

612
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.559
bots being mass produced by a mysterious
man in a kabuki mask. After fleeing

613
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:59.119
the man's attack, Hero suspects that
this man, this Yokai, started the

614
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.239
fire that killed to Dashi in order
to steal the microbots. This scene makes

615
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.039
me think of Hero's aunt, who
we have not discussed yet. I don't

616
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.559
know what you guys thought about her, but I thought she was she was

617
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:15.119
quite attractive, quite an attractive character
design. I'll just say that, fucking

618
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.840
crickets. Thanks guys, Thanks,
all right, We'll just move right on

619
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:25.159
past that. Then, determined to
avench his brother, Hero creates a set

620
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.639
of armor for bay Max and adds
martial arts to his programming. They find

621
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.960
the Yokai at the docks near the
warehouse, but Tadashi's friends interfere in an

622
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.480
attempt to console Hero over his grief. The Yokai attacks the group and their

623
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.519
minivan is forced into a lake,
where they're rescued by bay Max, who's

624
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.760
inflatable. Regrouping at Fred's mansion,
heroes inspired to turn the group into superheroes

625
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.239
in order to fight the Yokai.
Building upon their previous work at the institute,

626
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:58.280
Gogo develops a racing suit with maglev
wheels. Honey Lemon develops her power

627
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.280
purse, from which she can pull
various chemical weapons. Was Sabi develops arm

628
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:06.760
blades using laser induced plasma. For
Fred, Hero makes a monster suit that

629
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.119
can breathe fire, and for himself
and bay Max, he creates a suit

630
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.280
of armor that can fly. Well, really, he just made himself a

631
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:17.440
cool looking suit because he doesn't have
any other powers in this movie besides,

632
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.800
you know, his massive intellect.
He just put like magnets on his gloves

633
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.320
and feet so that he could connect
to Baymax when he flies. I would

634
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.159
have assumed that he would have made
himself like a lot more gadgets and weaponry

635
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.559
that would have helped the mission other
than just magnets in those locations like the

636
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.920
microbots, right, he could have
invented more microbots and then been a very

637
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:45.199
similar character to the Yokaia. He
definitely had the lamist suit out of everybody.

638
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.800
Yeah, plot hole, really this
is it's a major plot hole in

639
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.039
that he didn't create more microbots.
Yeah, or why didn't he create,

640
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.679
like, I don't know, a
signal that would counter the microbots signal or

641
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.800
something something like EMP or something that
would have made a lot of sense,

642
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.960
something that interfered with the neural transmitter
from the mask exactly, Like he invented

643
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.639
this tech that the villain was using. Surely he could have come up with

644
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.599
some other way to counteract that.
It's not like, you know, he

645
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.320
was coming in new to this like
a separate hero. It was his tech.

646
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.920
That's very true. Plotholes aside,
Who do you think would win out

647
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.840
of a fight between all these characters? Go Go? I think like watching

648
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.719
her fight in every fight scene,
she seemed to be the most comfortable with

649
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.519
her powers, Like she did the
cool thing where she sliced the ball in

650
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.239
half when she was trapped. She
looked like she was holding her own against

651
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.760
Callahan in their first encounter until she
slipped on the ice from Honeymoman. Like

652
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.880
I think she would definitely kick all
their butts. I would say, go

653
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:53.159
go to if like there wasn't debris
everywhere, because like one little pebble and

654
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.559
she's done. I feel like she
was really lucky that a lot of these

655
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.920
walls in the environments that she was
battling and had like rounded corners that it

656
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:06.000
went to the floor. I noticed
that happened like a couple of instances.

657
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:07.920
I've seen you on rollerblades, Jonathan, so I know what you're talking about.

658
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.480
Yeah, yeah, totally. One
a little crack in the sidewalk and

659
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.679
it's John don zo Um. I
think Fred would win. Fred would obviously

660
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:24.840
lose. Yeah, first let's run
the stats. Bring up the fucking simulator

661
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:30.039
where I think Honey Lemon would win. Like all she would have to do

662
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.480
is pull out like a Mustard gas
bomb something boom. I mean that would

663
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.599
affect Fred obviously because he has his
filtered air coming into that suit. Does

664
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.760
he have filtered air? Yes,
pretty sure it's not filtered. Pretty sure

665
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:45.159
that dude's fucking sustint smells like hockey
pads what he's wearing inside that suit.

666
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:51.239
Bay Max tracks the Okay to an
island with an abandoned lab, where they

667
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:57.159
find footage of a teleportation portal developed
by Alistair Craize company Kraytech Industries. They

668
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.079
learned that a test pilot was sent
into the portal and never turned, forcing

669
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.480
the government to pull Craize funding.
The group is attacked by the Yokai,

670
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.920
but the team manages to pull off
his mask, revealing him to be Callahan,

671
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.719
who's seeking revenge on Kraize since the
test pilot was his daughter, Abigail.

672
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.280
He started the fire at the institute
in order to steal the microbots and

673
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.159
get his revenge. Hero forces Baymax
to kill Callahan, but the team stops

674
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.039
him and Callahan gets away. Back
home, Baymax shows Hero footage of Tadashi

675
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:28.960
working on Baymax, which reminds Hero
that all his brother wanted to do was

676
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:34.480
help people, resolving to still apprehend
Callahan but not murder him. They find

677
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.760
the villain at a ceremony for kre
Tech Industries, where Callahan is using the

678
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.280
teleportation portal to suck up the company's
headquarters. What did you guys think of

679
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.360
evil? Baymax three clip and scary
right? He was like the terminator.

680
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:50.000
Yeah yeah, since he had the
armor on, he didn't look all cuddly

681
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.039
and nice. So when he went
evil, like remind me of the First

682
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.079
Avengers when the Hulk loses control on
the Hello Carrier. Oh yeah, the

683
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.320
analogy. Yeah, yeah, totally. I like the red Eyes. That

684
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:06.559
was cool, although it makes you
wonder if he was missing his Tadashi chip

685
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.559
and just kind of went like on
this crazy killing spree. Then when he

686
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.960
was left in the portal alone at
the end of the movie, did he

687
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.480
just like tear through the multiverse just
like freaking killing everyone because he didn't have

688
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.280
that healthcare chip anymore. Yes,
Yeah, he became like the anti monitor

689
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.480
for DC, just destroying universes until
he ran out of battery and then he

690
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.440
just clumsily fell around till he died. That's right. Yeah, acting drunk.

691
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:34.440
Yeah, that was funny. That
was a funny scene. In the

692
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.000
fight, the team is Clawbard but
decides on attacking the microbots instead to reduce

693
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:44.719
Kellahan's primary weapon. With the Yokai
defeated, the teleportation portal comes crashing down

694
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.599
and bay Max discovers a life form
inside. He and Hero enter the portal

695
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:53.639
to rescue Kellahan's daughter, Abigail,
who was in suspended animation. Baymax's Armor

696
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:59.119
gets destroyed during the rescue, however, and he sacrifices himself to get Hero

697
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.320
and Abigail through the portal before it
closes. I want to know why Hero

698
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:06.480
was the only one who went into
that portal. Is this Big Hero six

699
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:08.400
or Big Hero two? I mean, he's the only one who could fly.

700
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:14.639
This is true, that's fair.
But they've all ridden, They've all

701
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.719
ridden bay Max, you know,
like bay Max has carried all of them.

702
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:20.960
I just figured there would have been
you know, like strengthened numbers for

703
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.039
a mission like that. Really,
someone who didn't want the thirteen year old

704
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:30.519
to go alone. Right, We're
with you, Hero said no one.

705
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:36.119
With Callahan arrested. Hero sets up
shop alongside his friends at the San franco

706
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:40.039
Chio Institute of Technology, where he
discovers bay Max's healthcare chip. Using it,

707
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.719
he brings back bay Max, and
he and the others continue protecting the

708
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.960
city as the high tech superhero team
Big Hero six. After the credits,

709
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:54.440
we see a cameo from Stanley,
who is Fred's father and also a superhero

710
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:59.440
allegedly or just a guy who dresses
up like one. So I watched this

711
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:04.800
movie with my family. My daughter, who is twelve. Now, this

712
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.119
movie came out when she was four, so she doesn't remember it, and

713
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.239
it came out the same year that
my youngest daughter was born, so this

714
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:16.039
was her first time watching. Both
girls cried when bay Max was left in

715
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:21.800
the portal, which surprised me because
when I was watching this movie again,

716
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.000
I was like, Oh, I
remember this being a lot more touching than

717
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.000
it was, but clearly it still
is. Well, you already knew that

718
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.159
he was going to come back,
so like the stakes were less impactful for

719
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:36.599
you. But I definitely remember tearing
up the first time I saw this movie

720
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:38.480
at that scene, just because everybody
loves Baymax. You don't want to see

721
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:43.000
Baymax die. You know, he's
cool. Yeah, but it was a

722
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.639
nice sense of relief to see the
girls get relieved by the fact that that

723
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:51.239
chip was still in bay max fist. I was like, Oh, good,

724
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.320
that's good. They don't have to
be sad all night before going to

725
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:58.360
bed. Is that an issue?
Jonathan, with parenting and dustin same question

726
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:00.000
to you, were like, if
something too sad happens in a movie,

727
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.639
Yes, So I took my kid
to see Infinity a War in theaters,

728
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.280
and his favorite superhero is Spider Man. Oh no, Lucky for me,

729
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.280
he fell asleep right before the end, and I decided I'm not going to

730
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.320
tell him. And then we rented
the movie and he saw what happened?

731
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.559
You looked at me. He's like, wait, did that really just happen.

732
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.360
I was like, ah, crap. Now I gotta sit here and

733
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.519
be like it's okay, but it'll
be fine. Now we gotta go watch

734
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.599
and the game again again. Dustin, what did your kids think of this

735
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.039
movie? Oh? They loved it. So they've seen it probably a few

736
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.559
dozen times. They go through phases
where they like watch the same movie over

737
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:45.079
and over again. Yes, and
they were like, no, I don't

738
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:46.840
want to watch it, we want
to go play games. I was like,

739
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.840
all right, I guess I'll just
watch it by myself. And I

740
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.519
turned it on and I was probably
like five ten minutes and one of them

741
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.360
walks out and then just stops and
stands and then sits down starts watching it,

742
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.199
and then the other one comes out, sat down. They both watch

743
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.000
the whole movie. Nice. Well, I think that's a great testament to

744
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.760
the quality of the film. You
know, no matter how many times you've

745
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.840
seen it, it still holds up. Yeah. I mean there's a reason

746
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:14.039
why it won the Academy Award for
Best Animation the year that it came out.

747
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:19.079
That's right, Oh quick tangent.
Speaking of Academy Awards, I've been

748
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.760
wanting to say this on the podcast
for a while. I'm gonna put it

749
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:23.199
out. I'm gonna cut this part
out. Fuck you. I said a

750
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.519
few months ago that DC and Marvel
were tied for the number of Academy Awards

751
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.920
that they have, when actually I
forgot that the Suicide Squad won an Academy

752
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:37.760
Award. So DC has seven as
compared to Marvel's six. Do you feel

753
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.760
better now? I Do I feel
much better? Do you feel more like

754
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.320
more of a man? Yes?
Yes? Clap Well done, Jonathan,

755
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:51.280
Thank you. We're very proud for
you. Feel great. I'll say that

756
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.719
though Big Hero six is a very
loose adaptation of the Marvel comic, the

757
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.480
film presents a fun, scientific approach
to super heroics, which I like,

758
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.079
alongside a heartfelt story about coping with
loss. So I'm gonna give it four

759
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.840
and a half stars for Rotten Tomatoes
a fresh rating. I think I would

760
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.480
have given it four and a half
stars if I hadn't watched it again and

761
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.320
we hadn't talked about it, and
just thinking about all of these plot holes

762
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:21.920
and just like weird, especially with
the villain arcs and motivations. I think

763
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.679
it's four stars, which is still
a solid rating in my opinion. You

764
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:29.679
know, we've also given films like
Wonder Rooman and Joker four stars, so

765
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.440
I think it's a good, solid
movie, has some problems, but overall

766
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:37.800
a fantastic time. Yeah, I
will give it a four and a half

767
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.480
stars for myself. Kind of the
same reason I don't give it a perfect

768
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:45.800
rating is the whole plot hole parts
of it. But at the same time,

769
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.679
it's mostly made for kids, and
do you know who doesn't care about

770
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.559
plot holes? Kids? So it's
still super enjoyable. My kids have seen

771
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:55.599
it a thousand times. It got
them stuck right away as soon as they

772
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.000
walked onto the living room. So
yeah, and then you compared it to

773
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.760
DC movies having the same rating,
so I have to up at that extra

774
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:10.280
half. That was your mistake,
Jonathan, So four and a half it

775
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.599
is. Thank you so much,
Dustin for coming onto this show and reviewing

776
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:17.480
this movie with us. It's a
joy to have you, and it's you

777
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:22.039
know it's about time too. You've
been supporting the show for almost as long

778
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:27.559
as anyone has a long time listener, and I truly appreciate everything that you've

779
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:30.880
done for us. And I love
how you started your own podcast, not

780
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:34.920
just about anime. It looks like
you have another one coming up. Definitely

781
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.639
exciting things in your future podcast wise. Yeah, no, thanks for having

782
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:43.360
me. I love the show.
I think I started listening within four episodes

783
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:45.880
or so of you guys starting.
Thank you for sticking with us, because

784
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:52.639
those old episodes suck. They're okay, they're okay, But yeah, I

785
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:58.239
stuck with it even when you gave
me the nickname Dusty Balls and when Johnny

786
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.559
got mad and kicked me off team
do you see? And I'm surprised you

787
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:07.079
invite me on. When I make
I think I make Johnny mad more often.

788
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:09.639
That's what I love about having you
on the Discord is that you make

789
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:15.159
Jonathan angry. And it's always fun
to take Jonathan angry. I think everyone

790
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.000
expects it at this point because I
make a comment and then you just see

791
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:24.039
the gifts of like here we go
and people eating popcorn. So good,

792
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.519
so much fun. Yeah, and
also I'm getting ready to launch my new

793
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.679
podcast that me and my wife are
going to be doing, and we're also

794
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:36.039
going to be having guests here and
there. It's going to be a theology

795
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.000
based podcast called One World, One
God, and we're planning on releasing that

796
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:42.639
here within the next couple of weeks. It should be a good time.

797
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.840
Me and my wife, we're coming
at it from two different angles because I'm

798
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.400
the logical thinker of things, so
I judge stuff off the logic and she's

799
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.960
very much more feeling based, so
we have that nice balance. Fascinating,

800
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:58.000
nice, very nice. Thanks again, We'll be talking to you later on

801
00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.800
the discord. And how do I
want to this? How do we usually

802
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:07.199
end this? Jonathan Batman sucks goodbye? No no, no, I just

803
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.599
really dropped the mic there and left
before I could retort. But that doesn't

804
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.239
for this review. Let us know
what you guys thought about the movie by

805
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:19.280
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806
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.679
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of the Galaxy Volume three. We're
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Furies against Ronan, the Accuser,
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of the Galaxy film. Should be
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For this episode, we want to
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producers Ken Johnson, John Starowski,
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Wilder for helping make this podcast possible, and we'll talk to you guys next

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