Chief vs Professor X

1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,972 This is a Dynamike Network podcast. 2 00:00:25,486 --> 00:00:30,570 Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority 3 00:00:30,610 --> 00:00:35,774 between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters and stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny 4 00:00:35,814 --> 00:00:41,619 DC. And I'm his twin brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode, we are pitting the Doom 5 00:00:41,659 --> 00:00:48,204 Patrol leader, Niles Calder, aka the Chief, against the X-Men leader, Charles Xavier, aka 6 00:00:48,284 --> 00:00:53,789 Professor X. Yeah, both of these guys are bound to wheelchairs. They're both wicked smart. 7 00:00:54,209 --> 00:00:59,023 And While one of them has powers and the other one doesn't, the Chief is highly versatile 8 00:00:59,503 --> 00:01:04,385 and a complete wild card. So I think it's going to be a pretty good match. We said last week 9 00:01:04,405 --> 00:01:09,447 that this episode was going to be Dorothy Spinner vs. Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, but we're 10 00:01:09,488 --> 00:01:13,909 actually going to punt that duel to later on next month and we're going to do this one now. 11 00:01:14,369 --> 00:01:17,511 Yeah, before the matchup we're going to break down the comic book movie news from the past 12 00:01:17,551 --> 00:01:23,073 week of which there was just one minor news item. In regards to speculation around Gal 13 00:01:23,093 --> 00:01:27,929 Gadot's involvement. in a potential Wonder Woman movie. And we're also going to bring on Ken 14 00:01:27,969 --> 00:01:33,133 Johnson, the host of the Max Destruction podcast, to talk about his show. Yeah, as always, we 15 00:01:33,173 --> 00:01:37,076 list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out our show notes if 16 00:01:37,096 --> 00:01:41,780 you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. 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To listen to any 38 00:03:37,167 --> 00:03:42,311 of the Dynamike Network podcasts, click on the link in our show notes or visit dynamicpodcasts.com. 39 00:03:43,011 --> 00:03:49,317 And with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to 40 00:03:49,337 --> 00:03:54,741 give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram. 41 00:03:55,114 --> 00:03:59,155 and in our email newsletter for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question 42 00:03:59,195 --> 00:04:04,817 of the week. Last week we asked, besides Loki, what other Disney Plus Marvel television series 43 00:04:05,097 --> 00:04:10,398 that has come out do you most hope gets a season 2? And this is coming off of the trailer for 44 00:04:10,458 --> 00:04:15,180 Loki season 2. We got quite a few answers, let's go ahead and run down our honorable mentions 45 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:20,890 as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Travis Herndon, who said Hey 46 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:26,774 guys, Travis here. My pick would be a very controversial pick, but I would say She-Hulk. I feel like 47 00:04:26,795 --> 00:04:31,859 that show could get redeemed with a season two. Maybe bring in some people who've done the 48 00:04:31,899 --> 00:04:37,924 comics to write for She-Hulk, as well as maybe bringing in one or two people who've done good 49 00:04:37,984 --> 00:04:45,030 lawyer shows to really make it feel like a lawyer show with a splash of Marvel heroism. I just 50 00:04:45,050 --> 00:04:50,458 feel like She-Hulk can get a redemption. Yeah, this is a great answer. that I didn't think 51 00:04:50,478 --> 00:04:54,622 about because She-Hulk is, you know, probably the worst Disney plus Marvel television show 52 00:04:54,642 --> 00:05:01,048 to come out, in my opinion. But Tatiana Maslany gave a great performance and the show's concept 53 00:05:01,208 --> 00:05:06,693 has a lot of potential, especially if they lean more into the like lawyer comedy drama case 54 00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:12,098 of the week type format. Despite the fact how much I disliked season one, I do think that 55 00:05:12,118 --> 00:05:17,038 the show can be redeemed with the season two. And that's what I want to see. Yeah, I mean, 56 00:05:17,118 --> 00:05:22,181 as we've seen before, Kevin Feige is, you know, not above self-correcting when he realizes 57 00:05:22,201 --> 00:05:26,244 that he's made a mistake. Take Trevor Slattery, for example. I love what they've done with 58 00:05:26,264 --> 00:05:31,248 that character. And likewise, I don't think She-Hulk, the series, is beyond redemption. 59 00:05:31,728 --> 00:05:36,131 It needs to be redeemed, if anything. So great answer, Travis. Our next honorable mention 60 00:05:36,171 --> 00:05:42,135 goes to Rick McGrew from the RetroNomopod, who said, Hey, guys, Rick from the RetroNomopod. 61 00:05:42,856 --> 00:05:48,388 Yeah, I think Jeremy Renner. Taking up his mantle as Hawkeye would what I'd want to see for a 62 00:05:48,988 --> 00:05:55,653 second season. I like a ground-level hero I'd like to see what other adventures Haley Steinfeld 63 00:05:55,693 --> 00:06:01,277 would Get up to as Kate Bishop and kind of see where the relationship evolves to from where 64 00:06:01,297 --> 00:06:06,920 we left off So yeah season two of Hawkeye, I think is the win Yeah, due to Jeremy Renner's 65 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:13,425 unfortunate accident that happened last year It's likely that he wouldn't take a starring 66 00:06:13,605 --> 00:06:17,810 action role within a Hawkeye season two, but that's completely fine because they did a great 67 00:06:17,870 --> 00:06:23,432 job of setting up the character's legacy in Kate Bishop in Hawkeye season one. I think 68 00:06:23,472 --> 00:06:28,093 we really need to see where the story goes from there, and I'm surprised actually that a Hawkeye 69 00:06:28,113 --> 00:06:32,475 season two hasn't been announced yet. Yeah, same. I mean, considering that Jeremy Renner's 70 00:06:32,495 --> 00:06:37,776 Hawkeye was one of the first main Avengers, I would really hope to see that a subsequent 71 00:06:37,816 --> 00:06:43,098 season would kind of establish a new Avengers or sort of push in that direction. because 72 00:06:43,158 --> 00:06:47,479 I think the Avengers team is something that's sorely missing from the MCU right now that 73 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:51,041 people are interested in. For sure, yeah, and Hawkeye season one was definitely like the 74 00:06:51,121 --> 00:06:57,144 most Avengers-y feeling to it out of all the Disney Plus shows. Great answer, Rick. Our 75 00:06:57,184 --> 00:07:02,626 next honorable mention goes to Anson Millard, who said, Hey guys, this is Anson Millard. 76 00:07:02,946 --> 00:07:07,868 The easy answer for this is Moon Knight. It was one of the best received Disney Plus shows. 77 00:07:08,448 --> 00:07:16,094 I think it's the best set up to have a sequel. in another season. We can finally see Mark 78 00:07:16,214 --> 00:07:22,400 and Stephen work together with their combined powers but there's also some room for some 79 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:27,484 drama between them because they like the same girl can see some more stuff with Jake and 80 00:07:27,564 --> 00:07:31,688 I would love if they tie more into the direct. It sounds like Anson got cut off there but 81 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:35,752 I think he was gonna say he would like them to take more in the direction of the comics. 82 00:07:36,253 --> 00:07:41,076 That's only a guess. because while the Moon Knight television series was good, it was largely 83 00:07:41,096 --> 00:07:45,981 a departure from the source material. But he's right. I wanna see where the Mark and Steven 84 00:07:46,281 --> 00:07:50,724 relationship goes, especially with Scarlett Scarab in the mix. And in the very last scene 85 00:07:50,765 --> 00:07:55,869 of season one, we got introduced to Jake Lockley's character, who I think can be explored too. 86 00:07:55,889 --> 00:08:00,773 There's still a lot of mysteries within that show that I think would be fun to see get addressed. 87 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:04,156 Yeah, it was also nice that the show had some supernatural elements. I would actually like 88 00:08:04,176 --> 00:08:09,291 to see Gael Garcia Bernal's werewolf by night character making appearance on the show considering 89 00:08:09,331 --> 00:08:13,934 that you know moon night first made an appearance in his comic. That would be incredible. That 90 00:08:13,954 --> 00:08:17,676 would be really cool. I'd like to see those two team up even if it's just for an episode 91 00:08:17,716 --> 00:08:22,078 or something. Just go on an adventure together? Yeah. Like just steering the moon night show 92 00:08:22,118 --> 00:08:27,101 in that more supernatural horror route would be really cool. For sure. Great answer, Anson. 93 00:08:27,261 --> 00:08:32,044 We want to give a quick shout out to Christopher Manotti, Meggy Mathengian, and Jose Marcial 94 00:08:32,244 --> 00:08:36,590 for taking the time to visit our website and record an answer. But the winner of this week's 95 00:08:36,650 --> 00:08:43,555 no prize is Colby Hentges, who said, Hey boys, Colby Hentges. I'm going loose with the concept 96 00:08:43,595 --> 00:08:49,679 of season two. What I want is an Elsa bloodstone series coming out of the werewolf by night. 97 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:56,224 One shot. It could be a Buffy, the vampire slayer style monster of the week show of just Elsa 98 00:08:56,264 --> 00:09:01,547 hunting down different monsters every week. It would be awesome. That's my answer. Hell 99 00:09:01,587 --> 00:09:06,450 yeah, bro. This was a genius answer. Totally sold me on this pitch. of having a Buffy the 100 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:11,913 Vampire Slayer take on the character of Elsa Bloodstone who was first introduced in the 101 00:09:11,953 --> 00:09:16,636 Werewolf by Night special presentation around Halloween last year. This is fantastic, we 102 00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:21,659 could see the origin of the monster hunters, get more backstory on her father Ulysses and 103 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,001 the Bloodstone itself, and get introduced to a lot of supernatural characters from the comics 104 00:09:26,061 --> 00:09:32,365 incorporated into the MCU. Plus we could potentially get more Manthing, who I think should be the 105 00:09:32,545 --> 00:09:37,251 new Groot. He just- seems like a really fun, cool character. Which is weird to say, but 106 00:09:37,571 --> 00:09:42,774 it is what it is. And maybe we would even get more Gal Garcia Bernal as werewolf by night. 107 00:09:43,155 --> 00:09:47,137 He could just cameo in all the shows, including Moon Knight. So yeah, out of these answers, 108 00:09:47,197 --> 00:09:51,759 I would most want to see a Bloodstone series for sure. So congrats to Colby Hentges for 109 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:56,162 winning this week's No Prize. If you, the listener, want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay 110 00:09:56,182 --> 00:10:00,404 tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now 111 00:10:00,424 --> 00:10:02,545 that that's done, on to the news. 112 00:10:08,182 --> 00:10:13,765 Okay, a couple of weeks ago, Gal Gadot gave an interview to ComicBook.com where she said 113 00:10:13,805 --> 00:10:18,267 that she loved playing Wonder Woman and that she heard from James Gunn and Peter Safran, 114 00:10:18,527 --> 00:10:24,370 the heads of DC Studios, that they were going to develop Wonder Woman 3 together. Not long 115 00:10:24,450 --> 00:10:30,674 after that, she did another interview with Flant Magazine where she explicitly said that she 116 00:10:30,694 --> 00:10:36,317 was invited to a meeting with James Gunn and Peter Safran and that they told her and she 117 00:10:36,597 --> 00:10:41,068 said this was a quote. you're in the best hands, we're going to develop Wonder Woman 3 with 118 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:45,692 you, we love you as Wonder Woman, you've got nothing to worry about." This kind of caused 119 00:10:45,732 --> 00:10:53,178 an uproar on the interwebs from people who either loved the idea of Gal Gadot remaining as Wonder 120 00:10:53,238 --> 00:11:00,264 Woman and another project happening in the new Gunnverse, or just absolutely hated the idea 121 00:11:00,324 --> 00:11:06,449 and wanted Wonder Woman Recast. We haven't really heard anything from James Gunn regarding this 122 00:11:06,489 --> 00:11:11,947 situation, which is strange considering, you know, he'll go on to Twitter to debunk any 123 00:11:11,987 --> 00:11:16,868 random rumor that appears on there. But we did hear from Warner Brothers through a variety 124 00:11:16,928 --> 00:11:23,890 article saying that basically Gal Gadot was mistaken. There are no plans to proceed with 125 00:11:23,970 --> 00:11:28,591 a Wonder Woman film with her involved at this time. And there's no Wonder Woman film planned 126 00:11:28,751 --> 00:11:34,153 at all, only the Paradise Lost prequel series that kind of tells the story of the Amazons 127 00:11:34,253 --> 00:11:40,191 prior to Wonder Woman. being born essentially. Yeah, if you ask me, I think Gal Gadot was 128 00:11:40,231 --> 00:11:46,534 trying to play to her fan base to force James Gunn and Peter Safran's hand into keeping her 129 00:11:46,754 --> 00:11:54,077 on as Wonder Woman in the new DCU. I think Gal Gadot has a disease and it's called Liabetes. 130 00:11:54,257 --> 00:11:59,219 And I stole that from a gift that I posted on Discord. I don't think her intentions were 131 00:11:59,259 --> 00:12:03,521 malevolent at all. You know, I think someone asked her for an update and she just honestly 132 00:12:03,941 --> 00:12:10,812 told them what she was told. I think James and Peter absolutely told her that they're fans 133 00:12:10,832 --> 00:12:14,815 of her as the character and that they would like to develop a new Wonder Woman movie with 134 00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:18,937 her. But saying you're going to develop a project with someone does not mean that they're going 135 00:12:18,977 --> 00:12:25,541 to star in that movie. We all know that Gal Gadot is a huge Wonder Woman fan. It basically 136 00:12:25,581 --> 00:12:30,383 helped make her career. But considering the fact that this is a whole new fresh start, 137 00:12:30,764 --> 00:12:35,194 it would be really confusing to me if Gal Gadot continued in the role. I wouldn't hate it though 138 00:12:35,214 --> 00:12:39,277 if she served as like an executive producer maybe, something like that. She would still 139 00:12:39,297 --> 00:12:44,300 be able to develop the story if she's truly that passionate about the character. Yeah, 140 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,623 it would be like she was passing on the baton to the next Wonder Woman in this new universe. 141 00:12:49,163 --> 00:12:54,887 I think that she played the character well enough that I would like to see her at least partially 142 00:12:55,087 --> 00:13:00,218 involved, even if it's just an executive producer title, in the new reboot. All in all, while 143 00:13:00,318 --> 00:13:05,361 I do love Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman and think she's perfect in the role, I don't think she's 144 00:13:05,401 --> 00:13:10,344 the only one who's perfect in the role, or has the potential to be perfect in the role. And 145 00:13:10,364 --> 00:13:15,306 I'm excited to see what is in store for the future of the character on the big screen. 146 00:13:15,747 --> 00:13:20,569 Yeah, personally I'm hoping for a full on reboot and recast, but that brings us to our question 147 00:13:20,589 --> 00:13:20,989 of the week. 148 00:13:25,486 --> 00:13:30,928 Who would you want to direct a Wonder Woman reboot and why? Now we already asked you guys 149 00:13:30,968 --> 00:13:35,490 who you would want to recast as Wonder Woman if the role did get recast and we got some 150 00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:40,652 great answers, but now we wanna hear about your director choices. Record your answer at dynamicduel.com 151 00:13:41,112 --> 00:13:44,974 by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen, 152 00:13:45,014 --> 00:13:49,496 which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long 153 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:53,670 and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our 154 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:58,773 favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No prize that we'll post to Instagram 155 00:13:59,093 --> 00:14:05,157 and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before August 19th. But that does it for all 156 00:14:05,177 --> 00:14:09,860 the news for this episode. Let's go ahead and bring on Ken Johnson, the host of Max Destruction, 157 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:15,544 a Dynamike Podcast Network show that pits your favorite action heroes from movies and television 158 00:14:15,604 --> 00:14:19,514 against each other. Yeah, I'll get him on the line right now. Hey, Ken, glad to have you 159 00:14:19,534 --> 00:14:25,557 back on the show since you were last on for our 2004 Punisher review. How's it going? Great, 160 00:14:25,597 --> 00:14:30,280 except you didn't have me back for Punisher Warzone, which I took as a personal affront. 161 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:35,463 We had to call a quick audible on that one because of Ray Stevenson's passing, but we did want 162 00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:41,947 to have you on for that episode if that is any consolation. It is. RIP, Ray. You guys did 163 00:14:41,967 --> 00:14:47,422 a great job. I think it was well reviewed. It was outstanding. I appreciate you guys. adding 164 00:14:47,462 --> 00:14:51,223 me on for Punisher, that was definitely one of my favorite things to do, uh, and really 165 00:14:51,263 --> 00:14:56,324 kind of put me into where I am now. For those who don't know, Ken is an executive producer 166 00:14:56,424 --> 00:15:01,106 of Dynamic Duel. And as someone who has some influence over what we do on this podcast, 167 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:05,967 he came to us essentially pitching a sister show to ours, where he would use the Monte 168 00:15:05,987 --> 00:15:11,589 Carlo simulator we use, but for action movie star fights. And from that idea spawned not 169 00:15:11,709 --> 00:15:18,007 only his show, Max Destruction, but the whole Dynamike podcast network. So Ken, first off, 170 00:15:18,227 --> 00:15:22,669 thank you for that. Between Max Destruction and Send Your World, I think we're developing 171 00:15:22,709 --> 00:15:26,951 a pretty neat collection of shows and Jonathan and I love nothing more than taking credit 172 00:15:26,971 --> 00:15:33,334 for things that we're only tangentially involved in. 100% and it's my way of influencing from 173 00:15:33,354 --> 00:15:39,677 the bottom. Yeah, Max Destruction has about 14 episodes right now. Your 15th episode is 174 00:15:39,717 --> 00:15:45,700 coming out tomorrow. Your co-host is another executive producer of the show, Dustin Balcom, 175 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:51,623 who reviewed Big Hero 6 with us. Ken, how aware were you at the time when you selected Dustin 176 00:15:51,643 --> 00:15:57,027 to do the show that you were going to be upstaged to every turn? So it's a very interesting question 177 00:15:57,067 --> 00:16:02,810 and I really appreciate you asking that because we can finally settle the score. Dustin definitely 178 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:08,193 upstages me every time. He is the one that's actually working all the little puppet strings 179 00:16:08,213 --> 00:16:13,189 in the background. I'm not even really a person. You guys have been talking to an AI program 180 00:16:13,469 --> 00:16:20,515 this entire time that Dustin has created. You know what? Honestly, it's been a blessing to 181 00:16:20,575 --> 00:16:26,040 have Dustin as my co-host. Previous to this podcast, of course, I had you call those tactics, 182 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:32,385 which the longest and worst issue I had with that is finding a co-host that I could riff 183 00:16:32,405 --> 00:16:38,502 with. It's so much fun to have somebody there with you, either hyping you up, or trying to 184 00:16:38,902 --> 00:16:45,325 shit on you at every turn, which is, I find probably the most enjoyable about our podcasts. 185 00:16:45,785 --> 00:16:51,047 And it's right up there with our deli guy, right? It just spontaneously happened, and I'm so 186 00:16:51,067 --> 00:16:58,611 glad Dustin is willing and able to keep up with my shenanigans. Yeah, the deli guy is a fictional 187 00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:03,753 character that pops up in every episode of Max Destruction and is the brunt of a lot of the 188 00:17:03,793 --> 00:17:09,136 collateral damage that happens in... their speculative battles and it is awesome. But I had to prop 189 00:17:09,176 --> 00:17:14,218 my boy Dustin up because he's part of Team Marvel on our Discord. But you and Dustin have developed 190 00:17:14,258 --> 00:17:19,121 quite a funny antagonistic relationship and you guys have speculated on some incredible 191 00:17:19,161 --> 00:17:24,805 fights like Jason Bourne versus James Bond, Zoro versus Spartacus, Blade versus Riddick. 192 00:17:25,205 --> 00:17:30,808 I have my own favorites so far, but what has been your favorite episode to record? Oh my 193 00:17:30,848 --> 00:17:37,435 gosh. Okay, so I'll give you my top two. My first favorite really is Born vs Bond. As a 194 00:17:37,755 --> 00:17:42,236 military professional and representing the United States, I was glad really to bring home that 195 00:17:42,336 --> 00:17:49,738 win. For America. Yeah, America, freedom, right? The greatest episode I think I've had the most 196 00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:55,380 fun with is probably one of the last ones we did, which was Frank Dukes vs Nacho Libre. 197 00:17:55,740 --> 00:18:01,638 I really loved that one. I knew from the moment that I chose Nacho. I was free to just come 198 00:18:01,718 --> 00:18:07,660 at it as ham-handed as I wanted to. And I have such love for both characters that no matter 199 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,501 how it turned out, it didn't matter to me. Yeah, I have the unfortunate distinction of running 200 00:18:12,561 --> 00:18:18,183 the stats for Max Destruction. So all of the episodes are spoiled for me. I always know 201 00:18:18,203 --> 00:18:23,764 who's going to come out on top. But the speculations that you and Dustin do are just fantastic. 202 00:18:23,924 --> 00:18:29,578 I have to say I think my favorite episode so far is the Crow versus Dean Winchester. just 203 00:18:29,658 --> 00:18:33,982 learning about Dean, Manchester. I never watched the show Supernatural, but it made me interested 204 00:18:34,022 --> 00:18:38,746 in that show because it's like totally the type of show that I would very much watch and enjoy. 205 00:18:39,046 --> 00:18:44,671 And the crow is just awesome. I loved the fact that you guys do these battles in environments, 206 00:18:44,731 --> 00:18:49,856 because you essentially say, fuck dynamic duel and they're not environment scenarios that 207 00:18:49,876 --> 00:18:54,940 they come up with. The environments you guys establish, like the church for that specific 208 00:18:54,981 --> 00:19:00,916 match was. just so cool as part of the visualization and the imagination of just thinking about 209 00:19:00,996 --> 00:19:06,239 what was going on as you guys were describing it. Yeah, my favorite episode I think has been 210 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:11,662 Jack Slater versus Dr. Smulder Bravestone, which is essentially Last Action Hero versus Jumanji. 211 00:19:12,163 --> 00:19:16,585 Largely for nostalgic reasons, I just really have a fond nostalgia for the movie Last Action 212 00:19:16,605 --> 00:19:21,128 Hero, which I remember seeing in theaters as a kid. I also really liked Cameron Poe and 213 00:19:21,248 --> 00:19:26,310 Axel Foley. I think the speculation on that was top tier. As hosts, you and Dustin do a 214 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:30,613 great job of making these two very disparate characters interact in a way that feels true 215 00:19:30,633 --> 00:19:35,056 to how they would interact while staying true to themselves and the movie worlds they came 216 00:19:35,096 --> 00:19:38,658 from. So I think that's one of the best things about your show. Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. 217 00:19:38,979 --> 00:19:43,982 Obviously, the speculation you think would kind of come easily. I can honestly say that was 218 00:19:44,022 --> 00:19:48,485 the hardest thing to kind of get to. Like listening to you guys is like, man, I don't know how 219 00:19:48,545 --> 00:19:53,038 you guys think this is hard. You're just talking up a video game between two characters, but 220 00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:58,360 then, you know, taking these individuals that you may or may not have a ton of understanding 221 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:04,202 with. Like you're taking these characters that haven't been seen on the big screen, you know, 222 00:20:04,302 --> 00:20:10,343 early 90s, sometimes 80s, and then trying to apply them across the speculation and trying 223 00:20:10,363 --> 00:20:16,025 to make it fun. So, you know, getting the stride of tit for tat, you know, if I'm going to do 224 00:20:16,085 --> 00:20:20,635 left, he's going to do right, but also not. choreography, you know, trying not to set it 225 00:20:20,675 --> 00:20:26,681 up prior to having it be spontaneous. And then for me, always finding that way of putting 226 00:20:26,701 --> 00:20:32,826 the nut shot on Dustin. And it doesn't matter what character it is. I'm going to find a way 227 00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:37,750 of doing it because I know he's expecting it. And now I know the audience is expecting it 228 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:43,595 because I'm getting that feedback. So audience, thank you. Keep it coming. It really drives 229 00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:51,903 me to excellence, personas. of finding the way of achieving that goal. For sure. My favorite 230 00:20:51,923 --> 00:20:56,245 nut shot so far actually is when Zoro threw his hat into Spartacus's balls. That was, I 231 00:20:56,265 --> 00:21:00,286 think, the most creative so far. Really liked that. Did not see it coming, so kudos. I even 232 00:21:00,326 --> 00:21:04,287 loved the nacho one where he just kind of like fell over and like hit it from the floor, yeah. 233 00:21:04,307 --> 00:21:10,429 That was great. Speculating battles is almost like an art form and you guys are doing so 234 00:21:10,469 --> 00:21:15,306 much better than we did at the same stage in your podcast. Jonathan and I always knew the 235 00:21:15,347 --> 00:21:19,549 simulator could be used for something more than just comics characters And as movie fans were 236 00:21:19,689 --> 00:21:25,553 super glad you wanted to do an action movie podcast as a fellow movie fan What are some 237 00:21:25,613 --> 00:21:30,476 of your favorite action movies and can we expect any of those to show up in future episodes? 238 00:21:30,956 --> 00:21:37,240 So absolute favorite action movies. One of them is the episode that just came out which is 239 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:43,342 Indiana Jones so Raiders of the Lost Ark and Last Crusade are my absolute favorite movies 240 00:21:43,482 --> 00:21:47,563 on earth. They really are. So Indiana Jones is my favorite and I personally cannot wait 241 00:21:47,603 --> 00:21:54,265 to see how that turns out against Jack Sparrow. Terminator is definitely up there. So Terminator 242 00:21:54,305 --> 00:21:59,207 2 is the greatest action movie on earth and I would defy anybody to fight me on that one 243 00:21:59,407 --> 00:22:04,728 and I will legitimately fight you, not Monte Carlo simulated, but anywhere anytime we will 244 00:22:04,748 --> 00:22:12,031 fight. The Terminator will definitely be showing up. We're working on that. I really, really 245 00:22:12,111 --> 00:22:20,178 enjoy noir films. Casablanca is not an action movie per se, but I can't wait to pit like 246 00:22:20,439 --> 00:22:27,665 Dick Tracy up against somebody. So that's going to be fun as we roll out. So our first season 247 00:22:27,685 --> 00:22:32,590 is only 20 episodes, guys. So after our first season, we're gonna kind of rework things and 248 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:36,473 revisit and really take a look at these character matchups that the audience has been putting 249 00:22:36,573 --> 00:22:41,499 out. and by picking out the ones that we think would work the best, those are going to be 250 00:22:41,579 --> 00:22:45,780 episodes that will be coming up in season two and so on. I can't wait to see what matches 251 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:52,102 you guys come up with in the future. I'm hoping for Neo from The Matrix and Bruce Willis from 252 00:22:52,202 --> 00:22:56,803 Die Hard. There's so many. Yeah, yeah. Well, it was great to have you on as part of this 253 00:22:56,863 --> 00:23:02,205 episode. Ken Max Destruction is an awesome show, and we are super proud to have it as part of 254 00:23:02,225 --> 00:23:06,867 the Dynamite Network listeners. If you love action movies and you want to see who'd win 255 00:23:06,887 --> 00:23:10,808 in a fight and are interested in hearing all the creative ways Ken sneaks in a nut shot 256 00:23:10,848 --> 00:23:16,030 into the speculations, listen to Max Destruction anywhere you listen to podcasts or by visiting 257 00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:21,593 dynamicpodcast.com. All right, Ken, thank you so much for stopping by and I can't wait to 258 00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:26,655 listen to more of your show and take care. Thanks, guys. If you guys aren't following Max Destruction 259 00:23:26,735 --> 00:23:31,517 on Instagram, be sure to do so. Ken's often posting weekly audience match up ideas that 260 00:23:31,537 --> 00:23:38,123 are pretty fun to participate Yeah, it's a really fun show. Support a fellow Dynomic Network 261 00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:41,613 podcast by subscribing to and following Max Destruction. 262 00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:53,277 But now let's get into the main event of this episode, where we find out who's gonna win 263 00:23:53,337 --> 00:23:59,068 in a battle between the Doom Patrol leader, the Chief, and the X-Men leader, Professor 264 00:23:59,389 --> 00:23:59,409 X. 265 00:24:14,774 --> 00:24:20,656 Okay, the Chief versus Professor X, this is definitely a mind over matter duel, which are 266 00:24:20,676 --> 00:24:24,878 always pretty interesting to do. It's taken us a while to determine who we would want to 267 00:24:24,938 --> 00:24:29,520 pit against the Chief, because he doesn't really have any powers. His superpower is essentially 268 00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:34,302 that he's just really smart. But when it came down to it, it was really hard not to do Professor 269 00:24:34,422 --> 00:24:39,864 X, considering the fact that Professor X is kind of inspired by the Chief. Yeah, and the 270 00:24:39,964 --> 00:24:44,915 X-Men themselves were heavily inspired by Doom Patrol. This duel of course is in lead up to 271 00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:49,817 our 350th episode, which will be a team duel between the Doom Patrol and the Guardians of 272 00:24:49,857 --> 00:24:55,340 the Galaxy. Now, we all know Professor X is like the foremost telepathic mind in the Marvel 273 00:24:55,380 --> 00:25:00,343 universe, and a lot of people are probably wondering why he's going up against the Chief, who seemingly 274 00:25:00,383 --> 00:25:06,166 has no powers, but I think the people who read Doom Patrol or watch the series and know all 275 00:25:06,206 --> 00:25:11,209 about Niles Calder know that he has a contingency for everything. That is basically his superpower. 276 00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:17,500 He's so versatile. It's almost like he has every superpower in like a one time use kind of situation. 277 00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:21,961 That's the impression that I get. So I think the stats will play out accordingly, and it 278 00:25:22,001 --> 00:25:26,263 should be closer than I think a lot of people would give the chief credit for. Yeah, anyone 279 00:25:26,323 --> 00:25:32,106 doubting the chief, I think simply doesn't know the chief. But we're going to rectify that 280 00:25:32,126 --> 00:25:37,748 in this episode. But to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient 281 00:25:37,788 --> 00:25:44,038 dual simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000, AJ 9K. Tell our listeners how you go about determining 282 00:25:44,179 --> 00:25:49,641 a winner in our dual matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the 283 00:25:49,681 --> 00:25:54,563 contestants is by running 1,000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. 284 00:25:55,043 --> 00:25:59,485 A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random 285 00:25:59,545 --> 00:26:05,387 sampling. In this case, I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate 286 00:26:05,407 --> 00:26:09,989 the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official 287 00:26:10,049 --> 00:26:15,345 Marvel power grid. from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat 288 00:26:15,385 --> 00:26:20,689 categories are included, such as range, damage potential, versatility, and perception, in 289 00:26:20,749 --> 00:26:25,973 order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1,000 simulations 290 00:26:26,033 --> 00:26:30,357 provide a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is 291 00:26:30,397 --> 00:26:36,073 declared the victor. as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, 292 00:26:36,454 --> 00:26:41,258 neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's 293 00:26:41,398 --> 00:26:46,203 even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line 294 00:26:46,223 --> 00:26:50,827 with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations 295 00:26:50,867 --> 00:26:56,011 are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes 296 00:26:56,071 --> 00:27:01,815 tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks AJ and IK. Before we run the simulations though, 297 00:27:01,835 --> 00:27:06,018 we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario 298 00:27:06,158 --> 00:27:11,022 on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe 299 00:27:11,062 --> 00:27:16,446 it's my turn to go first with the DC character's backstory, so let me tell you all about Niles 300 00:27:16,466 --> 00:27:24,111 Calder, aka The Chief. Niles Calder was born with an aptitude for genius. He was a polymath 301 00:27:24,131 --> 00:27:28,926 who excelled in his studies, particularly in science and engineering. due to his obsession 302 00:27:28,946 --> 00:27:33,989 with the gothic horror novel Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus written by Mary Shelley. 303 00:27:34,369 --> 00:27:40,893 Fascinated by the concept of creating life, Niles built incredible robots and, after obtaining 304 00:27:40,933 --> 00:27:46,796 his doctorate, was given a grant by a mysterious benefactor who had noticed his work. Niles 305 00:27:46,816 --> 00:27:51,719 created a laboratory and after running experiments and developing a ray that could reanimate dead 306 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:57,050 tissue, he traveled the world, learning from other scientists and shamans the ways in which 307 00:27:57,090 --> 00:28:04,433 to prolong life. While in India during the 1960s, Niles made considerable progress on a life-extending 308 00:28:04,493 --> 00:28:10,896 formula with the help of a wealthy mystic named Ashok Desai, whose wife had died during childbirth. 309 00:28:11,236 --> 00:28:17,138 Believing that the formula was nearly complete, Ashok tested it on himself, and though it worked, 310 00:28:17,438 --> 00:28:22,961 he also activated a latent metagen within him, turning himself into a living portal to the 311 00:28:23,021 --> 00:28:28,862 netherworld and driving him insane. Ashok's daughter, Arani, feared her father and ran 312 00:28:28,902 --> 00:28:34,884 away, living on the streets of Calcutta, where she became deathly ill. Niles eventually found 313 00:28:34,944 --> 00:28:40,066 Arani and married her, giving her the formula on their wedding night in order to heal her 314 00:28:40,146 --> 00:28:46,307 sickness. Concerned about the motivations behind his mysterious benefactor, Niles left Arani 315 00:28:46,387 --> 00:28:51,929 in the Himalayas to keep her safe. Niles soon discovered that his benefactor was a man named 316 00:28:52,069 --> 00:28:57,985 General Immortus. an evil and wealthy despot and former Nazi who had lived for thousands 317 00:28:58,025 --> 00:29:03,809 of years thanks to a magic potion that he had lost the formula for and was counting on Niles 318 00:29:03,889 --> 00:29:09,473 to recreate. When Niles refused to finish his work for Immortus, the villain implanted a 319 00:29:09,553 --> 00:29:15,537 bomb in Niles' chest, which could be detonated remotely or if Niles attempted to remove it 320 00:29:15,577 --> 00:29:21,561 while he was still alive. Forced to continue his work, Niles instead orchestrated a plan 321 00:29:21,930 --> 00:29:27,293 in which he manipulated Immortus into shooting and killing him, stopping his heart. After 322 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:33,738 which, a surgical robot that Niles invented removed the bullet and the bomb, and resuscitated 323 00:29:33,818 --> 00:29:40,163 Niles back to life. The operation took longer than planned, however, and as a result, Niles 324 00:29:40,183 --> 00:29:46,207 was left a paraplegic without the use of his legs. Initially distraught, Niles eventually 325 00:29:46,247 --> 00:29:51,550 developed a theory that he called the Catastrophe Curve. essentially believing that traumatic 326 00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:57,472 events such as his own would force people to adapt and emerge stronger and better than before. 327 00:29:57,952 --> 00:30:03,834 Deciding he needed to stop General Immortus, Niles saw others who had underwent debilitating 328 00:30:03,974 --> 00:30:10,055 traumas to help him combat evil, eventually putting together the Doom Patrol, which initially 329 00:30:10,095 --> 00:30:16,137 consisted of Robot Man, Negative Man, and Elastigirl, each of whom you could learn more about in 330 00:30:16,157 --> 00:30:21,443 their respective duel episodes. against The Thing, Cyclops, and Ms. Marvel respectively. 331 00:30:21,883 --> 00:30:28,024 Having become wealthy by patenting several inventions, Niles used scientific means to help each of 332 00:30:28,044 --> 00:30:34,206 the Doom Patrol members overcome the accidents that left them quote unquote freaks and develop 333 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:40,768 superhuman abilities as a result. Niles himself, however, kept his motivations and even his 334 00:30:40,848 --> 00:30:47,279 identity a secret from the team, revealing himself only as the Chief. It wasn't until numerous 335 00:30:47,339 --> 00:30:52,923 adventures later, during the Doom Patrol's third battle against General Immortus, that Niles 336 00:30:52,963 --> 00:30:59,589 was forced to explain his real name and backstory to the team. Several years later, while battling 337 00:30:59,629 --> 00:31:04,973 the villains General Zal and Madame Rouge, Niles and the other Doom Patrol members decided to 338 00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:10,597 sacrifice their lives in order to stop the villains from blowing up the small town of Codsville, 339 00:31:10,758 --> 00:31:16,386 Maine. You can learn more about this in our Madame Rouge vs Mystique duel episode. Upon 340 00:31:16,446 --> 00:31:23,548 hearing of Niles' death, Arani left Asia and started her own Doom Patrol team to find Niles, 341 00:31:23,868 --> 00:31:29,890 who she believed was still alive. Arani, whose temperature-controlling metagene was activated 342 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:35,971 after Niles left her due to his formula, went by the codename Celsius, and it was later revealed 343 00:31:36,031 --> 00:31:42,033 that her hunch was correct. Niles had survived the explosion thanks to a force field that 344 00:31:42,073 --> 00:31:47,875 he had activated. after which he went into hiding from General Immortus and began secretly working 345 00:31:47,895 --> 00:31:54,296 for the US government. Arani died shortly after Niles' existence was discovered, and Niles 346 00:31:54,377 --> 00:32:00,198 rejoined the Doom Patrol, which reformed with all new members including Dorothy Spinner and 347 00:32:00,258 --> 00:32:05,880 Crazy Jane, the latter of whom you can learn more about in our Crazy Jane vs Legion episode. 348 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,141 During the team's adventures, Niles had secretly been working on his magnum opus, the ultimate 349 00:32:12,414 --> 00:32:18,579 and cruelest implementation of his catastrophe curve theory. After killing one new Doom Patrol 350 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:24,243 member known as Tempest for asking too many questions, Niles was confronted by Robotman, 351 00:32:24,644 --> 00:32:30,188 to whom Niles revealed that he was responsible for the original Doom Patrol team's traumatic 352 00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:35,793 accidents, along with several others who made up the Doom Patrol's enemy team known as the 353 00:32:35,833 --> 00:32:41,581 Brotherhood of Evil. Just before Niles could enact his master plan to detonate a nanotech 354 00:32:41,621 --> 00:32:47,226 bomb that would destroy half the world's population and turn the rest into freaks, his head was 355 00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:53,372 torn from his body by the Candlemaker, a creature created from the mind of Dorothy Spinner. Dr. 356 00:32:53,412 --> 00:32:59,097 William Magnus, who you can learn more about in our Metal Men vs. Colossus episode, managed 357 00:32:59,197 --> 00:33:05,246 to save Niles' head, however, and built a new robotic body for him. while insisting that 358 00:33:05,306 --> 00:33:11,170 Niles make up for his horrible actions. Wracked with guilt, Niles removed his own head from 359 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:17,675 his robot body, after which he existed as a disembodied head for some time. After rebuilding 360 00:33:17,715 --> 00:33:23,018 the Doom Patrol and merging with one of its new members, Niles died after entering the 361 00:33:23,078 --> 00:33:29,043 Tree of Life. After the events of Infinite Crisis, when Superboy Prime altered events within DC's 362 00:33:29,083 --> 00:33:35,399 continuity, the original Doom Patrol, including Niles Calder, emerged as a team once again, 363 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:41,042 and while its members were aware that Niles was responsible for their accidents, they forgave 364 00:33:41,082 --> 00:33:47,366 him. During the Blackest Night event, Arani was resurrected as an evil black lantern zombie, 365 00:33:47,746 --> 00:33:54,069 and used her powers to freeze and shatter Niles' legs. After teleporting her and other black 366 00:33:54,109 --> 00:33:59,533 lanterns to the Justice League's location for them to deal with, Niles set to work on creating 367 00:33:59,673 --> 00:34:05,779 a new body for himself. successfully forming one from Kryptonian cells allowing him to gain 368 00:34:05,819 --> 00:34:11,560 the powers of Superman. After turning on his team, he was defeated by the Doom Patrol and 369 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,742 his comatose body was placed in storage. In post-Flashpoint continuity, Niles Caulder created 370 00:34:17,762 --> 00:34:23,484 a Doom Patrol team consisting of its original members and Element Woman. After the team learned 371 00:34:23,524 --> 00:34:28,645 from Lex Luthor that Niles caused the traumatic accidents that turned them into superhumans, 372 00:34:29,105 --> 00:34:34,671 the team disbanded. Niles was able to reform the team eventually, but they fired him once 373 00:34:34,691 --> 00:34:39,552 they realized he was using them for his own selfish purposes once again. And that's Niles 374 00:34:39,572 --> 00:34:45,294 Colder's history. Powers-wise, the Chief has a genius level intellect and is a world-renowned 375 00:34:45,374 --> 00:34:50,975 expert in the fields of robotics, engineering, chemistry, physics, biology, and many others. 376 00:34:51,455 --> 00:34:56,697 He's developed an array of machines, devices, and formulas, including Robot Man's body, the 377 00:34:56,737 --> 00:35:01,923 radiation-containing bandages of Negative Man, a life ray that brings the recently dead back 378 00:35:01,963 --> 00:35:08,646 to life, nanobots that can rearrange matter itself, an elixir that extends one's lifespan, 379 00:35:09,106 --> 00:35:15,829 and forcefield and portal generators from his wheelchair. He also packs a gun, so break yourself. 380 00:35:19,211 --> 00:35:24,133 Niles Calder has always been a fascinating character to me. I think he's one of DC's most interesting 381 00:35:24,173 --> 00:35:29,216 characters, actually. largely informed by my viewing of the Doom Patrol television series, 382 00:35:29,256 --> 00:35:33,718 but to actually hear the comic book series, I'm all the more intrigued. It was really interesting 383 00:35:33,818 --> 00:35:40,002 how he ended up in a wheelchair, but I think it's weird how writers made him go from a guy 384 00:35:40,082 --> 00:35:46,386 who was testing out the catastrophe theory into like a super villain who wanted to destroy 385 00:35:46,426 --> 00:35:49,328 half the world. I feel like that was a pretty large leap there. 386 00:35:52,674 --> 00:35:57,016 Don't self pity yourself even though like this horrible thing happened to you. You can turn 387 00:35:57,036 --> 00:36:02,379 that into something greater. They took that to its extreme where he believed that catastrophe 388 00:36:02,399 --> 00:36:08,422 was necessary to sort of evolve humanity. And so he was going to be the arbiter of that. 389 00:36:08,822 --> 00:36:13,805 Delusions of grandeur. You know what though, Professor X has some dark shit in his backstory 390 00:36:13,845 --> 00:36:18,908 too. Let me go ahead and tell you all about that right now. Now Charles Xavier was born 391 00:36:18,988 --> 00:36:25,075 in New York City to Sharon and Brian Xavier. renowned nuclear physics researcher operating 392 00:36:25,215 --> 00:36:31,239 in New Mexico. As a genetic mutant, Charles began manifesting the earliest signs of his 393 00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:37,163 latent psychic potential while still in the womb as he recognized his twin as a malignant 394 00:36:37,203 --> 00:36:42,706 presence. Though his sister Cassandra tried to kill Charles as a fetus, he was able to 395 00:36:42,726 --> 00:36:48,129 defend himself with his telepathic ability, causing Cassandra to apparently be stillborn. 396 00:36:48,686 --> 00:36:53,907 When Charles was nine years old, his father Brian died in an accident at the research facility 397 00:36:54,367 --> 00:37:00,509 and his mother Sharon married a Dr. Kurt Marco. The three moved into Sharon's family estate 398 00:37:00,589 --> 00:37:06,151 in Westchester, New York, where Charles met his new stepbrother, Cain Marco. Charles' new 399 00:37:06,191 --> 00:37:11,613 stepfather Dr. Kurt Marco was abusive, however, and relentlessly beat his wife Sharon and his 400 00:37:11,653 --> 00:37:18,068 son Cain, who in turn bullied Charles. The young Charles not only endured torment at the hands 401 00:37:18,108 --> 00:37:23,694 of his stepbrother, but as his telepathic abilities began growing in power, he also experienced 402 00:37:23,794 --> 00:37:29,439 Kane's and his mom Sharon's abuse firsthand. Ultimately, the abuse proved to be too much 403 00:37:29,479 --> 00:37:35,906 for Sharon, and she succumbed to alcoholism. Shortly after, Dr. Kurt Marco died in a fire 404 00:37:36,006 --> 00:37:41,746 inside their mansion home, leaving Charles and Kane as orphans. Fortunately, Charles had a 405 00:37:41,846 --> 00:37:47,189 gifted academic mind and was able to graduate high school and attend Bard College, graduating 406 00:37:47,209 --> 00:37:53,032 with a degree in biology at age 18, by that point having lost all of his hair. He then 407 00:37:53,052 --> 00:37:58,414 went overseas to Oxford University for his postgraduate studies, earning master degrees in genetics 408 00:37:58,494 --> 00:38:04,717 and biophysics. There, he met fellow student Moir McTaggart, and the two developed a romantic 409 00:38:04,777 --> 00:38:09,668 relationship. After college, Charles decided to join the military, where he excelled in 410 00:38:09,728 --> 00:38:14,470 search and rescue missions through the use of his telepathic powers. Charles then traveled 411 00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:20,394 the world, ending up working at an Israeli hospital for Holocaust survivors, where he first encountered 412 00:38:20,554 --> 00:38:26,417 a fellow mutant named Eric Lencher, whom you can learn more about in our Sinestro vs. Magneto 413 00:38:26,497 --> 00:38:32,080 duel episode. The two men often debated on how the evolving human race would affect mankind. 414 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:38,051 While Eric foresaw war and death, Having suffered his whole life for being different, Charles, 415 00:38:38,211 --> 00:38:43,254 more idealistic, hoped for a future of peace and acceptance between humans and mutants. 416 00:38:43,814 --> 00:38:49,557 Later, after encountering a destructive, power-hungry mutant called the Shadow King in Egypt, Charles 417 00:38:49,617 --> 00:38:55,159 realized that the existence of malevolent mutants would mean he would ultimately have to fight 418 00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:01,042 to protect his cause and convince the human race of a peaceful coexistence. He then traveled 419 00:39:01,082 --> 00:39:06,063 to the Himalayan mountains, where he encountered an alien named Lucifer, who was scouting the 420 00:39:06,103 --> 00:39:11,244 planet in preparation for a future invasion. To prevent any interference, the alien dropped 421 00:39:11,264 --> 00:39:18,006 a massive stone block on Charles' legs, crippling him. While recovering in Bombay, India, Charles 422 00:39:18,046 --> 00:39:23,268 began working on a device called Cerebro that would amplify his telepathic abilities and 423 00:39:23,308 --> 00:39:28,469 help him find other mutants. He began psychically reaching out to young mutants in an effort 424 00:39:28,489 --> 00:39:33,914 to help them control including a young Jean Grey, whom you can learn more about in our 425 00:39:33,954 --> 00:39:39,896 Raven vs. Phoenix episode. Charles then traveled back to New York and attended Columbia University, 426 00:39:39,956 --> 00:39:45,798 where he received a PhD in anthropology and a medical doctorate in psychiatry, before transforming 427 00:39:45,818 --> 00:39:51,740 his family estate in Westchester into an institute for young mutants. It was there he would teach, 428 00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:56,541 protect, and guide students in the use of their burgeoning abilities, instilling in them his 429 00:39:56,581 --> 00:40:03,207 dream of human and mutant peace. Charles' initial students consisted of Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, 430 00:40:03,528 --> 00:40:09,330 Archangel, and Iceman, and he called them the X-Men for their extra abilities. You can learn 431 00:40:09,370 --> 00:40:14,733 more about the team in our Titans vs X-Men team duel episode. In their first field mission, 432 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:20,116 the X-Men fought Charles' old friend Eric, now known as Magneto, who had assembled his own 433 00:40:20,156 --> 00:40:25,890 group, the Brotherhood of Mutants, to enforce mutant superiority. Over the years, the X-Men 434 00:40:25,930 --> 00:40:29,753 protected humanity from threats such as the Juggernaut, who was Charles' step-brother, 435 00:40:29,793 --> 00:40:35,317 Cain Marco, now imbued with the power of the magical crimson bands of Scytoric, a mystic 436 00:40:35,377 --> 00:40:40,321 entity. Charles also directed his team against the Sentinels, who were mutant hunting robots, 437 00:40:40,741 --> 00:40:45,465 and the Savage Land Mutates, who were experiments from an Antarctic jungle. Though Charles and 438 00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:50,728 the X-Men saved the Earth time and again, they never won humanity's respect, and mankind's 439 00:40:50,788 --> 00:40:56,379 fear of mutants only grew. With his reputation preceding him, Charles joined an elite secret 440 00:40:56,419 --> 00:41:01,741 group of the planet's most influential figures called the Illuminati, which included Iron 441 00:41:01,761 --> 00:41:07,363 Man, the Submariner, Dr. Strange, Mr. Fantastic, and Black Bolt, and the group would prevent 442 00:41:07,403 --> 00:41:14,086 sensitive global catastrophes in secret. Eventually, the X-Men came across Krakoa, a sentient island 443 00:41:14,126 --> 00:41:19,548 that captured the team, forcing Charles to recruit a new band of mutants to rescue them, including 444 00:41:19,628 --> 00:41:25,475 Storm, Wolverine, Colossus, and Nightcrawler. As his group of students grew, Charles received 445 00:41:25,535 --> 00:41:31,057 a telepathic message from LaLondra, the princess of the Shi'ar alien race who sought his help. 446 00:41:31,417 --> 00:41:35,919 Charles and LaLondra fell in love, and after a mission that seemingly killed most of the 447 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:42,162 X-Men, he moved to space to live with the Shi'ar as LaLondra's consort. Charles later returned 448 00:41:42,222 --> 00:41:47,664 to Earth and recruited another young team called the New Mutants. Around this time he learned 449 00:41:47,684 --> 00:41:52,442 that he had a son named David with a woman he met in Israel. the young man suffered from 450 00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:58,304 severe psychic trauma and would later be known as the Mutant Legion. Eventually, the missing 451 00:41:58,484 --> 00:42:04,266 X-Men returned and Charles led the team to fight Magneto on his orbital asteroid base. During 452 00:42:04,286 --> 00:42:09,727 that fight, Charles mentally shut down Magneto's mind, which caused the evil portion of the 453 00:42:09,747 --> 00:42:15,269 villain's psyche to implant itself in Charles' brain. This evil presence, combined with Charles' 454 00:42:15,329 --> 00:42:21,095 vast telepathic power, eventually manifested into a dark psychic entity called Onslaught, 455 00:42:21,575 --> 00:42:26,776 which took a majority of Earth's heroes to defeat and nearly destroyed the world. Remorseful 456 00:42:26,816 --> 00:42:31,658 for his part in Onslaught's creation, Charles turned himself over to government authorities, 457 00:42:31,998 --> 00:42:37,059 who then attempted to use Charles' powers against mutant kind. Rescued by the X-Men, Charles 458 00:42:37,139 --> 00:42:42,441 helped the team fight the ancient mutant apocalypse, but faced a more personal psychic threat when 459 00:42:42,461 --> 00:42:48,126 his twin sister Cassandra Cassandra Nova was revealed to have survived from the womb as 460 00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:54,028 a psychic presence and took over Charles' body. She exposed Charles as a mutant to the world 461 00:42:54,248 --> 00:42:58,929 and caused the obliteration of the entire mutant population living on the island of Genosha. 462 00:42:59,449 --> 00:43:04,211 Eventually Jean Grey was able to use Cerebro to help constitute Charles' mind within his 463 00:43:04,351 --> 00:43:10,132 own body, pushing Cassandra Nova out. Charles used the publicity surrounding his mutant status 464 00:43:10,152 --> 00:43:11,713 to create the X Corporation, 465 00:43:14,882 --> 00:43:20,426 that would provide resources to mutants in need. All was not well however, as it was later revealed 466 00:43:20,486 --> 00:43:25,129 that Charles had kept secrets from the X-Men. Back when the X-Men were captured by the sentient 467 00:43:25,229 --> 00:43:30,573 island of Krakoa, Xavier had recruited a new team to rescue them, but they perished in the 468 00:43:30,613 --> 00:43:36,658 attempt. Xavier also kept secret that the danger room was powered by a sentient Shi'ar artificial 469 00:43:36,698 --> 00:43:41,781 intelligence that he had suppressed. The AI eventually broke free and attacked the X-Men. 470 00:43:42,354 --> 00:43:46,335 After a time, Xavier was able to make peace with the Danger Room, and he sought redemption 471 00:43:46,375 --> 00:43:51,356 alongside the mutant Gambit in their mission to stop the evil geneticist, Mr. Sinister. 472 00:43:51,857 --> 00:43:56,938 At one point, Cyclops, who had amassed the power of the Phoenix Force and had become Dark Phoenix, 473 00:43:57,338 --> 00:44:02,560 killed Charles. With him dead, the villainous Red Skull harvested Charles' brain and used 474 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:08,230 it to imbue himself with telepathic powers, turning himself into the Red Onslaught. After 475 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:12,253 the Red Onslaught was defeated, it was revealed that Charles' mind had been abducted by the 476 00:44:12,273 --> 00:44:17,377 Shadow King to fight in a never-ending battle on the Astral Plane, which is a psychic plane 477 00:44:17,397 --> 00:44:22,702 of existence. The X-Men found Charles and rescued him from the Astral Plane, with X-Men member 478 00:44:22,842 --> 00:44:29,207 Phantom X donating his body for Charles' mind to inhabit. Shortly after, Charles implemented 479 00:44:29,247 --> 00:44:31,469 a plan he had been working on with former love interest 480 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:41,951 He developed a system in which all mutants could live in peace and be resurrected through a 481 00:44:42,011 --> 00:44:47,512 process that used a combination of mutant abilities. Charles sent telepathic invitations to all 482 00:44:47,552 --> 00:44:54,034 mutants, helping to turn Kakoa into an influential world power, and finally finding a worthy compromise 483 00:44:54,334 --> 00:45:00,076 between his ideals and those of his old friend Magneto. And that's his backstory. Powers-wise, 484 00:45:00,136 --> 00:45:05,237 Professor X possesses vast psionic abilities and is regarded as having the most powerful 485 00:45:05,277 --> 00:45:10,731 mind on Earth. With his psychic powers, he can perform a variety of telepathic effects including 486 00:45:10,851 --> 00:45:18,333 mind reading, mind control, mind erasure, mind transference, thought casting, illusion casting, 487 00:45:18,893 --> 00:45:25,395 psychic cloaking, psychic shielding, psychic pain, and psychic astral projection, all at 488 00:45:25,435 --> 00:45:31,637 a range of up to 250 miles or 400 kilometers. He has a genius level IQ and is the world's 489 00:45:31,697 --> 00:45:37,266 foremost authority on genetics and mutation. and is an expert in nearly every field of mental 490 00:45:37,386 --> 00:45:43,508 and life sciences, as well as an expert strategist and diplomat. He is also gifted in engineering, 491 00:45:43,668 --> 00:45:48,870 having created Cerebro, which amplifies his abilities to a global range and has become 492 00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:55,011 mobile in its latest versions. Prior to his paralysis, Professor X was a proficient hand-to-hand 493 00:45:55,051 --> 00:46:00,253 fighter, having received combat training from his time in the military. His weaknesses include 494 00:46:00,333 --> 00:46:06,314 telepathic shielding, such as Magneto's helmet. and the paralysis of his legs. To offset this 495 00:46:06,374 --> 00:46:12,056 latter weakness though, he rides a hoverchair invented by the mutant Forge who incorporated 496 00:46:12,136 --> 00:46:18,558 Shiar technology and is controlled via mental command. And that's Professor X. I totally 497 00:46:18,618 --> 00:46:25,860 forgot about Onslaught. Would we ever do a duel with Onslaught? The entity itself doesn't have 498 00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:31,941 a huge history on its own, but I guess I could go into greater detail of the story of Onslaught. 499 00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:34,337 if and when that time came. Okay, cool. 500 00:46:41,966 --> 00:46:45,728 Well, now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on 501 00:46:45,768 --> 00:46:52,472 how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not 502 00:46:52,512 --> 00:46:57,395 this speculation, but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. Alfred Jarvis9000, 503 00:46:58,175 --> 00:47:03,398 what are the rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules, other than 504 00:47:03,418 --> 00:47:07,781 the characters have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware 505 00:47:07,821 --> 00:47:12,328 of starting out... is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For 506 00:47:12,368 --> 00:47:17,572 the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript 507 00:47:17,612 --> 00:47:22,415 environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics 508 00:47:22,435 --> 00:47:27,638 are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright 509 00:47:27,658 --> 00:47:32,862 then let's get into it. The Chief and Professor X meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? 510 00:47:38,294 --> 00:47:43,918 the chief's mind and learning all about this guy, who he is, what he can do. OK, I was prepared 511 00:47:43,938 --> 00:47:51,585 for this, though. OK, because I'm thinking like the chief's brain is a vast labyrinth of knowledge 512 00:47:51,605 --> 00:47:57,329 and experiences that would make like most men's heads just explode if they ever got a peek. 513 00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:04,836 So, OK, if Professor X ever got a mental glimpse into that mind, like at the very least, he'd 514 00:48:04,876 --> 00:48:11,064 be so shocked by the breath. of information and atrocities and just dark thoughts within 515 00:48:11,084 --> 00:48:16,388 the chief's mind. He'd just be like, holy crap. Right. So that's going to leave the chief at 516 00:48:16,448 --> 00:48:21,252 least a few seconds to pull out his gun and just shoot Professor X like right in the bald 517 00:48:21,292 --> 00:48:26,395 dome. That is quite the assumption right there. And I'm guessing a lot of your strategy actually 518 00:48:26,475 --> 00:48:31,199 hinged on Professor X being shocked by Niles Calder's brain. Yes. You know what? I actually 519 00:48:31,219 --> 00:48:36,650 believe that would happen. I think that Niles Calder has a really. crazy ass mind judging 520 00:48:36,670 --> 00:48:40,953 by all the crazy ass adventures the Doom Patrol have been on. So sure, if the Chief needed 521 00:48:40,993 --> 00:48:45,736 to buy himself a second, this is where he buys it. But also, like then again, Professor X 522 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:50,318 has dealt with like a lot of disturbed minds also. So I don't think he's quite as stunned 523 00:48:50,518 --> 00:48:54,841 by the Chief's brain as he thinks he is. I think he's able to actually avoid the Chief's gunshot 524 00:48:54,881 --> 00:49:01,785 by using mind control at the last second to throw off his firing can. Okay, that just means 525 00:49:01,825 --> 00:49:06,907 that the bullet's just gonna... hit his hover chair then instead of his head. And you know, 526 00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:13,088 that's gonna make the hover chair malfunction and just go haywire. So Professor X, he's essentially 527 00:49:13,248 --> 00:49:18,650 writing a mechanical bull at this point and he's gonna be too distracted to perform any 528 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:22,731 psychic attacks. You can't do that to a man in a wheelchair. What the hell's going on here? 529 00:49:23,051 --> 00:49:29,693 Just did, it just did. Okay, so if Professor X's hover chair is like flying around, Professor 530 00:49:29,813 --> 00:49:35,659 X. is gonna mentally steer it as best he can to crash into the chief's wheelchair, just 531 00:49:35,819 --> 00:49:40,140 murderballing the dude. Do you know what murderball is? Like people know what murderball is, right? 532 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:46,922 Yeah, I know. It was a documentary about the US men's paraplegic rugby team. Right. And 533 00:49:46,962 --> 00:49:50,863 in that movie they just knock the shit out of each other, pushing other wheelchair guys to 534 00:49:50,883 --> 00:49:56,465 the ground. That's what happens here, the chief is knocked over in his wheelchair. Okay, so 535 00:49:57,005 --> 00:50:04,161 I didn't mention this in my bio, but... The Chief can walk. What? He doesn't actually need 536 00:50:04,201 --> 00:50:10,305 his wheelchair. Why? He cured himself of his paralysis a long time ago. He just used the 537 00:50:10,346 --> 00:50:19,392 wheelchair to avoid suspicion and garner sympathy. Oh my God. What a fucking prick. Yeah, yeah. 538 00:50:19,833 --> 00:50:25,377 That's what Robotman said essentially as well. So the Chief, you know, he just dives back 539 00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:30,821 toward his wheelchair. and he's going to activate a button that actually transforms the wheelchair 540 00:50:31,362 --> 00:50:38,047 into this like robotic exoskeleton suit kind of like robot man and wearing that exo suit 541 00:50:38,367 --> 00:50:43,131 he's going to leap onto professor x's hover chair and just yank him right out of it and 542 00:50:43,151 --> 00:50:48,916 just like fling him to the ground this dude sucks but i'm going to say that before the 543 00:50:48,936 --> 00:50:54,621 chief can even lay a hand on the professor x is going to start erasing the chief's mind 544 00:50:54,701 --> 00:51:00,409 right including his knowledge of how this exosuit even works. So the chief's not going to be 545 00:51:00,429 --> 00:51:04,251 able to do anything. His mind is just going to go blank. But like the chief has worked 546 00:51:04,291 --> 00:51:10,594 with psychics on the patrol like Mento before. So he'd most likely be able to realize if his 547 00:51:10,674 --> 00:51:16,098 mind is being erased. And I'm going to say, like, once he notices that without hesitation, 548 00:51:16,378 --> 00:51:20,360 real quick, he's just going to whip out the squirt gun from his jacket and he's going to 549 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:28,523 spray this anti-medicine. formula onto Professor X that's gonna erase his mutant powers. Meta-humans 550 00:51:28,543 --> 00:51:34,425 aren't the same thing as mutants. They're basically the same thing. Chief made a formula that can 551 00:51:34,485 --> 00:51:40,826 erase powers? Well, I mean, he made a formula that could trigger Meta-Genes and extend life, 552 00:51:41,046 --> 00:51:46,748 so sure, yeah, he could reverse engineer that to remove Meta-Gene powers as well. The dude's 553 00:51:46,808 --> 00:51:52,349 smart. Like, I'm calling bullshit. I feel like your speculation hinges on a lot of assumptions. 554 00:51:52,758 --> 00:51:57,762 You don't think Chief would be prepared living in a world with metahumans to be able to disable 555 00:51:57,782 --> 00:52:03,246 them? I guess he's created so many superpowered beings it's not out of the realm of possibility 556 00:52:03,286 --> 00:52:10,372 that he has means to depower them. But before this depowering formula fully kicks into effect, 557 00:52:10,892 --> 00:52:16,277 Professor X, he's gonna reach into the trunk of his hoverchair and pull out a mobile Cerebro 558 00:52:16,317 --> 00:52:21,261 device, and he's gonna put it on, it's gonna amplify his power so that before his psychic 559 00:52:21,281 --> 00:52:27,331 abilities vanish, he still has enough psychic juice to make Chief's mind explode from a telepathic 560 00:52:27,371 --> 00:52:33,233 blast. Force field. Boom. The blast doesn't reach the Chief because he activates a force 561 00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:39,174 field that includes psychic shielding. All right. The Chief's then going to launch a capsule 562 00:52:39,214 --> 00:52:44,816 of nanobots from his exosuit at Professor X and that's just going to disassemble his body 563 00:52:45,196 --> 00:52:51,517 at the molecular level. Essentially, it looks like he dissolved Professor X with acid. Okay, 564 00:52:51,557 --> 00:52:59,504 sure. Whatever. All right. But if you remember earlier in this duel, Professor X erased part 565 00:52:59,524 --> 00:53:06,385 of the chief's mind, right? And the dark malevolent side of the chief combined with Professor X's 566 00:53:06,465 --> 00:53:13,307 psychic power. So now in place of Professor X is Onslaught. Way to go. And now the chief 567 00:53:13,347 --> 00:53:18,149 is a fuck like a million times over because Onslaught is going to tear through his mind 568 00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:22,386 and just obliterate it like a boot crushing an ant. And no force field is going to hold 569 00:53:22,486 --> 00:53:28,587 onslaught back. Match over. So the chief is dead? Yeah, the chief's dead. Onslaught just 570 00:53:28,647 --> 00:53:34,789 ripped his mind a new butthole. OK, I mean, jokes on you, though, because once the chief's 571 00:53:34,809 --> 00:53:41,051 heart stops beating, it triggers his exosuit to emit a life ray, which brings the recently 572 00:53:41,151 --> 00:53:47,833 dead back to life. And once he's back, that's when he activates a portal to the D creator, 573 00:53:48,153 --> 00:53:53,539 which is this giant eyeball in the sky that lays its sights right on Onslaught and just 574 00:53:53,819 --> 00:54:00,723 de-creates him. I mean, Niles too, probably. But Onslaught first, so the Chief wins. Well, 575 00:54:00,843 --> 00:54:05,365 I remember the de-creator from the show. Yeah, that. That's way more powerful than Onslaught. 576 00:54:05,786 --> 00:54:10,548 I don't think so, but it doesn't matter because from the very beginning this whole match actually 577 00:54:10,568 --> 00:54:16,832 took place in the Astral Plane, where Professor X took Chief's mind to play out as like a psychic 578 00:54:16,852 --> 00:54:23,631 illusion this whole match to And now that Professor X knows what the chief would do and like his 579 00:54:23,711 --> 00:54:28,914 curiosity has been satiated. He's just going to leave the chief in this comatose state where 580 00:54:28,954 --> 00:54:33,597 he believes that he's been decreated by the Decreator. How did I know you were going to 581 00:54:33,637 --> 00:54:40,640 go there? It's all an illusion. It was all a dream. I say it all really did happen and Professor 582 00:54:40,761 --> 00:54:45,123 X was dissolved and onslaught was decreated. You can't just go back to the beginning of 583 00:54:45,143 --> 00:54:49,265 the match and be like, oh, it never happened. Yes, I can, because that is one of Professor 584 00:54:49,365 --> 00:54:55,833 X's powers. Haters gonna hate, and mind manipulators gonna manipulate. So we'll go ahead and leave 585 00:54:55,853 --> 00:55:00,116 the match there and input these characters' stats and find out which scenario actually 586 00:55:00,156 --> 00:55:07,521 happens when we come back with a winner. AG9000, take it away. Inputting data, running calculations, 587 00:55:07,982 --> 00:55:14,346 processing results, simulations complete. Okay, as we predicted, these characters have fairly 588 00:55:14,466 --> 00:55:20,150 different stats. As we mentioned, Professor X is very one note, and the chief is... quite 589 00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:25,374 versatile. In fact, that was the chief's highest stat, the versatility. That makes sense because 590 00:55:25,394 --> 00:55:30,899 the chief has a contingency for everything, right? But Professor X was off the charts in 591 00:55:30,939 --> 00:55:36,284 terms of damage level, considering the guy can render, you know, like an entire town inert 592 00:55:36,504 --> 00:55:41,628 just by shutting down everybody's minds. And his range was also ridiculously high considering 593 00:55:41,648 --> 00:55:47,353 he can stretch his mind out to a radius of 250 miles and extend that even further with Cerebro. 594 00:55:47,393 --> 00:55:51,920 Right. We did say though that the chief was smarter, he had a higher intellect, and he 595 00:55:51,940 --> 00:55:58,144 was more evasive, thanks to the fact that he utilizes force fields. Yeah, I had a real hard 596 00:55:58,185 --> 00:56:04,008 time conceding even the notion that the chief is smarter than Professor X. But then you gotta 597 00:56:04,028 --> 00:56:09,112 kinda consider the chief at the same level as Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards. Yes, Professor 598 00:56:09,312 --> 00:56:15,156 X is a brilliant genius. A large part of that though has to do with his psychic faculties, 599 00:56:15,216 --> 00:56:21,703 not necessarily his book smarts. Professor X is the foremost authority on genetics and mutation, 600 00:56:22,183 --> 00:56:29,265 but Reed Richards and the chief can like invent teleportation devices. So Professor X was lower 601 00:56:29,465 --> 00:56:35,086 in the intelligence stat, but he was much higher in the perception stat where we accounted for 602 00:56:35,126 --> 00:56:39,708 his telepathic abilities, including mind reading. Yeah, the perception stat is where the two 603 00:56:39,748 --> 00:56:45,409 characters had the largest discrepancy when it came to stats. So taking all of this into 604 00:56:45,449 --> 00:56:50,311 consideration. Who do you think came out on top? Professor X. Gotta go with the main mind 605 00:56:50,352 --> 00:56:56,275 here. As smart as Chief is, he's just not as powerful. And not only do I think that, a vast 606 00:56:56,295 --> 00:57:00,317 majority of people think that, because according to our Instagram poll that we put out there, 607 00:57:00,857 --> 00:57:06,901 86% of our Instagram followers think that Professor X is gonna win. That's a big margin. I guarantee 608 00:57:06,921 --> 00:57:13,084 you though, that is just because of the X-Men cartoons and the movies. People just love the 609 00:57:13,224 --> 00:57:18,414 X-Men. So of course they're gonna vote for an X-Man. Yeah, people like the X-Men because 610 00:57:18,494 --> 00:57:23,677 they're more popular than the Doom Patrol because Marvel's better. So I agree with you. Yes. 611 00:57:24,217 --> 00:57:29,799 Well, let's see how misplaced your confidence is. AJ 9K, the results, please. Hey, you are, 612 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:37,162 sir. The winner of the matchup between the Doom Patrol's chief and the X-Men's Professor X 613 00:57:37,982 --> 00:57:51,007 is. Professor X, you damn right it is. By 60.8. percent. Professor X won 608 of the 1000 simulated 614 00:57:51,107 --> 00:57:57,049 matches, whereas the Chief only won 392. You know, that's actually closer than I thought 615 00:57:57,069 --> 00:58:02,570 it was going to be. For as careful as I was not to underestimate Niles Calder, I still 616 00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:07,032 did in the fact that he got a few more wins than I thought he would. I mean, you made a 617 00:58:07,072 --> 00:58:10,673 believer out of me. When you first mentioned this match, I didn't think it was going to 618 00:58:10,693 --> 00:58:15,214 be that great because I figured Professor X would win. So this isn't really a surprise 619 00:58:15,234 --> 00:58:18,875 to me. But when I started delving more into the character and was like, hey, maybe he could 620 00:58:18,915 --> 00:58:25,778 pull this off. I really got hopeful and I regret that now cause I feel bad. Good. Actually, 621 00:58:25,818 --> 00:58:29,880 when you were going into the chief's backstory and you were talking about how he gave himself 622 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:36,002 Superman powers and stuff like that, I'm like, oh no, I made a horrible suggestion, but you 623 00:58:36,022 --> 00:58:41,104 know, I feel really happy about how this all turned out. Yeah, I mean, the chief has no 624 00:58:41,144 --> 00:58:45,895 powers, but he has tremendous potential. In the end, though, I guess that can overcome 625 00:58:46,295 --> 00:58:52,139 just the vast sheer might of Professor X, which sucks. I mean, for you, yeah, not for Marvel 626 00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:57,984 fans. As it turns out, Professor X has a greater mind. Marvel fans have the greater minds. Wait, 627 00:58:58,404 --> 00:59:04,769 what? Yeah. Yep. You didn't know that? Makes sense because you're a DC fan that you wouldn't 628 00:59:04,809 --> 00:59:12,614 know something. I can't say no, I didn't know that because. Whatever. That does it for this 629 00:59:12,674 --> 00:59:17,237 duel. Let us know what you thought about the results by writing to us at dynamic duel podcast 630 00:59:17,538 --> 00:59:24,582 at gmail.com or by visiting us on Instagram or Twitter X. 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Next week we are going to review Blue 639 01:00:07,208 --> 01:00:12,083 Beetle that comes out this week. Get pumped! I'm not that pumped. Well, you're dumb, so 640 01:00:12,103 --> 01:00:16,885 it makes sense. Everyone else, super stoked. Hopefully, you guys got to turn out for this 641 01:00:16,925 --> 01:00:22,368 movie. Like we cannot have another DC box office bomb like the Flash. It's definitely gonna 642 01:00:22,408 --> 01:00:27,131 happen, man. I'm sorry. We'll find out, I guess. I'm gonna go see it. I'm taking my whole family 643 01:00:27,171 --> 01:00:31,773 to go see it. I encourage you guys to do the same. But that does it for this episode. We 644 01:00:31,793 --> 01:00:37,216 wanna give a big thanks to our executive producers, Ken Johnson, John Snorosky, Zachary Hepburn, 645 01:00:37,516 --> 01:00:43,421 Dustin Balcom, Mickey Mathengian, Brendan Esfregard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Nick Abonto, 646 01:00:43,782 --> 01:00:49,987 Austin Wyslowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, and Adam Spees for helping make this podcast 647 01:00:50,027 --> 01:00:55,613 possible. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. I can read 648 01:00:55,653 --> 01:00:59,096 your mind. And right now you are thinking that I can't read minds.