Shazam! Fury of the Gods Review

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Hi, Welcome to the Dynamic Dual
Podcast, a weekly show where we review

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DC and I'm his twin brother, Marvelous

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Joe, and in this episode,
we are reviewing the first theatrical film to

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come out for DC this year,
Shazam Fury of the Gods, which of

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course is a sequel to twenty nineteen
Shazam. Loved the first one. We

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give it to a four point five
out of five stars when we reviewed it

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on this podcast back then. Did
the sequel live up to the original.

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We'll let you know later on in
this episode when we talk about our thoughts

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on the film. Before that,
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Happy birthday to both of you.
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a gift from the Marvel Universe,
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the Nation of Wakada. They're like
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outfit and arsenal because I know you're
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a really cool cosplay outfit, and
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Titans. And for Dustin, if
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I would give you the Fantastic Car, considering you stated that your new

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company to Kowaid the Company car,
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so you know, Fantastic Car covers
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you Phantom Stranger's necklace, which interestingly
enough, is made up of thirty pieces

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of silver, which you deserve you
Judas for anyone not in the know,

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Dustin used to be a fan of
DC, but then he switched over to

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Marvel on our discord server. I
think your saltiness over the fact that he

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switched sides is a large part of
why he's still part of Team Marvel,

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because it's just so fun to make
you angry. Now, I'm super petty.

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I'm super petty, and I will
continue to be so until he switches

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back. Thanks again to both Tim
Brown and Dustin WelCom for being patrons.

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Yeah, happy birthday, guys.
With that out of the way, quick

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to the new Prize. A NO
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out to fans our the Dynamic Dual. NO Prize is a digital award we

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post on Instagram and in our email
newsletter for the person that we feel gave

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the best answer to our question of
the week. Last week's question was which

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superhero costume has been the best in
all of Marvel and DC's live action films

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and shows and why. We got
a few answers for this one, So

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let's go ahead and run down our
honorable mentions as well as the no Prize

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winner. Our first honorable mention goes
to Connor Pierce, who said, Hey,

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guys, it's um Conna piss and
I think that wull Ki as Ronan

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from The Avengers is probably one of
the best live action superheroes suits we've ever

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gotten, and oricon it just gave
me goose bumps that same way, then

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snapped half of the University Gone on
a rain page in Japan, and yeah,

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Hawkeye's Ronan costume is pretty damned sweet, especially in that scene in Avengers

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and Game. I remember when I
first saw Ronin in the New Avengers comics

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back in the early two thousands,
and I thought he looked really damn cool.

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It was a mystery as to who
the character was. It turned out

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to be Echo, if I remember
correctly, and the title has kind of

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gone to a number of Marvel characters
over the years, and in the case

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of the films, it went to
Hawkeye, and I thought they did a

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pretty good adaptation of the suit for
those films. Yeah, it just looks

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like a really badass ninja. Yeah, it had like the cool mask in

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the hood and the color scheme of
like the dark green and gold with the

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black. It was all really damn
cool looking. There's a lot of costumes

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out there where the like very bright
and colorful, and it's like if I

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ever became a superhero. I would
never wear that, but I could see

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myself wearing the Ronan costume for sure. For sure. Yeah, especially if

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you needed to keep a secret identity. You know, that's kind of what

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the whole purpose of the Ronin identity
is. It's a faux secret identity for

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existing superheroes, basically when they need
to do something shady. Great answer,

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counter Pierce. Our next honorable mention
goes to Clive from Toronto, who said,

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Hey, it's Clyde from Toronto.
When you asked about the best live

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action superhero costume in all of Marvel
DC, the first thing that came to

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mine was Michelle Phifer's Catwoman costume and
Batman returns. Some may argue she's an

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antihero, disqualify my pick, but
her costume needs to be acknowledged. I

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don't care. Any current artistic rendering
of Catwoman in a leather costume with stitches

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or a damaged mask with the hero
is a callback to that character and Batman

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returns. It was a moment I
consider Catwoman to be a superhero. You

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know, she has some pretty villainous
tendencies sometimes, but I think anti hero

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is an appropriate title. Well,
you know, she steals things, but

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she also fights bad guys and you
know, helps defend people in need,

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So she's very borderline for sure.
Yeah, she defends the innocence. But

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regarding her costume in Batman Returns,
it's not my favorite Catwoman costume on film.

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That probably goes to Anne Hathaway's costume. But it is a interesting one,

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I will say, considering that,
you know, shows the stitches and

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kind of feels a little bit like
a Frankenstein kind of costume, which is

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more or less the approach they took
in Batman Returns. Considering Slee and Kyle

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was sort of raised from the dead
by cats. Yeah, it's kind of

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out of left field answer, but
also a bold answer. I really like

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Clive's choice here. Regardless of whether
or not it was like faithful to the

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comics or not, there was just
something inherently really cool about the visual of

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seeing Michelle Pfeiffer in that suit that
stands the test of time. It was

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sleek and shiny, and Michelle Feifer
just gave a great performance in it,

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and she looked great in it.
Absolutely. Yeah, it's great answer,

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Clive. Our final honorable mention goes
to Scott Camacho. Who said this is

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going to be a cop out answer, But I see no way around it.

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The best superhero costumes are going to
be from the Zack Snyder universe.

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Every detail, every nostalgia, even
coming from the comics and even bringing something

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new. All those costumes look amazing, and I find myself going bad back

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watching the movies and sometimes even the
shows Zack Snyder's universe. So it doesn't

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really mean like the whole universe,
right, I think he's referring mainly to

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the Justice League characters here, because
in the Snyder verse you also have people

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like the Joker. Yeah right,
and a lot of those Suicide Squad outfits

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were ass well yeah, maybe,
I mean, but the Justice League character

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designs were incredible. Maybe not so
much. Aquaman actually think he got the

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better costume at the end of his
own movie, but characters like the Batman

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ripped straight from the page. Superman
has never looked better on screen. Gal

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Gadote her One Roman costume is legit, next level, and it even translated

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really well into the comic. I
also really liked the Flash's costume. It

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was definitely a more interesting take than
I've ever seen on the character before.

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Just the silhouette of it was really
cool and Cyborg was yeah, he was

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okay, yeah, yeah, it
was all right. Grant answer, Scott

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Camaco, We want to give a
big thanks to making My think Ian for

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also taking the time to visit our
website and leave an answer. We'll be

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posting everybody's answers up on the discord
for discussion. But the winner of this

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week's no prize goes to Matt Lamb, who said, Hey, guys,

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Matt lam here. So I'm definitely
gonna have to give this to the Iron

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Man armors from the Marvel films.
It's a suit of armor the Tony Stark

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himself made, which is not something
that most of the hearers can say about

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their costumes, and he's constantly modifying
and updating the suit. With each iteration

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it gets better and better. But
I'm definitely gonna have to say that the

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Mark three was my favorite. It
was the first suit that heralded in the

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MCU. Yeah, the Mark three
is also my favorite Iron Man suit from

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all his appearances in the MCU.
Overall, Iron Man has had a fantastic

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string of costumes throughout all of his
appearances, and like Matt said, I

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really like how each iteration is him
kind of building upon what came before and

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making advancements to the suit, and
it got so advanced at the end.

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It was a Nano suit that he
wore for Infinity, wore an end game

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that Bleeding Get armor. I think
you could consider it. The Bleeding Get

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armor was really cool, and it's
interesting to go back and watch the films

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and just see how the suit evolves. I think the latter suit's got a

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little too streamlined for my taste.
Didn't look as industrial as I liked them

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too. I think my favorite armor
was the one he wore at the end

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of the first Avengers movie. I
thought that one. I think that was

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like the Mark six or seven.
I want to say something like that,

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Yeah, it was cool. That
was a cool one. Yeah, I

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like that a lot. But yeah, I mean this may be an obvious

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answer, but I think it's still
the best. Iron Man will probably always

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have the best suit out of all
the heroes in comic book movies. The

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suit is his superpower, right exactly. So congrats to Matt Lamb for winning

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this week's no Prize. If you
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no Prize, stay tuned till later
on this episode, when we'll be asking

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another question of the week. And
now that that's odd to the news,

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okay, and what is probably the
worst kip secret. We learned this past

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week that James Gunn will be directing
Superman Legacy. Now, we knew when

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the project was announced that he would
be writing it, but considering that it

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was going to be like the flagship
kickoff film for this new universe that he's

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establishing, it made sense that he
would direct something that critical to the franchise

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and critical to his vision. Yeah, yeah, right, And the news

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was pretty much leaked a few weeks
ago by DC writer Tom King, who

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is one of the writers in the
writer's room with James Gunn working on these

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upcoming projects. So yeah, James
Gunn finally admitted it on Twitter this past

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week. I thought it was pretty
interesting how he was basically saying like he

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had a good story in mind for
the character, but he wasn't quite committed

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to delivering the vision on screen.
It's a lot of work to direct,

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and he wasn't sure if he was
the man to do the job or if

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there was someone better. But it
sounds like he's just really happy with the

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way his script has turned out,
and he can't wait to see it realized

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on screen. He mentioned in his
tweets that the way he's approaching the story

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of Superman this time is sort of
as a Superman of two worlds in more

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ways than one. You know,
not only is he from Krypton and a

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man of Earth, but he also
has this aristocratic Kryptonian side because his parents

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were Kryptonian aristocrats. But he also
has like the Kansas farmer, rural side

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to him, and I think that's
a fascinating approach. Well, he also

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has the metropolis side to him too. You know, that's another world right

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there that's completely different from either Krypton
or Smallville, Kansas. Well, he

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didn't mention that in the tweet,
but you're right. I personally have been

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looking forward to this announcement because not
only do I think he's a great writer

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who's able to capture the heart and
bright side of character, but I also

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think he's a really good director.
You know, I really liked the direction

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of Guardians of the Galaxy and the
Suicide Squad films, and even Peacemaker.

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I thought those were really well directed. So I'm absolutely looking forward to him

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directing the Superman movie. Now,
you could say that while Guardians and The

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Suicide Squad were not similar films tonally, they both have this kind of like

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cress comedic tone to them. Right. Do you think that James Gunn would

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be bringing that to his Superman movie. I think he could bring it to

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the world of Superman perhaps in some
areas, maybe, you know, like

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he could bring some humor to the
Daily Planet, as long as he keeps

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it away from Superman himself, because
I don't think that Superman is a character

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like star Lord. But James Gunn
is smart. He's a smart writer at

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the very least, and I think
he knows not to take that approach with

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the character. And honestly, you
know, I think he's trying to prove

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himself with this film. I definitely
think that he has what it takes to

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do that. Largely, you know, in the works that he's come out

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with. You could say that he's
kind of inhibited by his own sense of

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humor, but I absolutely think that
he's capable of going above and beyond that

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to deliver really powerful stories that don't
necessarily have like a bunch of dick jokes

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like the suicide squad. You know, I definitely trust in guns vision.

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I trust him as well, although
I have to say my trust did take

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a bit of a hit this past
week when I think it was the Hollywood

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Reporter dropped an interview with Ben Affleck
who said that he is definitely not interested

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in directing a film in James Gunn's
universe. And we heard from Gunn that

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Ben Affleck was excited and eager to
find a good project to work on in

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this universe. But it sounds like
that's not the case. So is someone

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lying here? And why is Ben
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James guns dc universe? Is he
familiar with the stories and the direction they

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want to go in. It kind
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not be that anybody's lying regarding ben
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could be that they probably had discussions
and then talks fell through. Basically,

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what Gunn said may be true.
You know, they may have been trying

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to get Ben Affleck on board,
and what ben Affleck said maybe also true,

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and that he is no longer interested, And that may be for any

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number of reasons, you know,
I couldn't see Ben Affleck directing an MCU

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movie. But that's not to discount
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Is just that Ben Affleck doesn't seem
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within that sort of creative system.
Yeah, he did mention in the article

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that he really really dislikes like the
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you know how they're just turning out
comic book movie left after right without

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scripts even being finalized or anything like
that. You know, he had a

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really bad experience on the Justice League
film with Josh Sweden, and he mentioned

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that it was like his worst experience
actually, so I think he's probably trying

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to avoid that. And also,
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going to direct a Batman film like
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that if you come across another version
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to do, like with Batman and
Robin, potentially, then you may not

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be as interested in doing that the
brave and the bold you mean, yeah,

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exactly. Yeah. I suspect that
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would probably come out more similar to
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what The Brave and the Bold sounds
like it's going to be. And you

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know, if Matt Reeves has directed
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Ben Affleck to direct a similar one
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whether Ben Affleck wants to direct a
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Gunn is directing Superman and that brings
us to our question of the week.

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twenty fifth. But that does for
all the news. Now let's move on

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to the main event, where we
reviewed the latest DC theatrical film, Chazam

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Fury of the Gods all right.
Shazamne Fury of the Gods is the sequel

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to twenty nineteenth Shazam, both of
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Now. I loved the first Shazam
film, where we reviewed it on

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this podcast when it came out,
giving it four and a half stars.

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As I mentioned earlier, it was
a smart blend of humor, action,

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heart, and horror, with a
touching coming of age story and strong themes

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around family. It was a lot
for the sequel to live up to,

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but considering the history of superhero sequels
improving upon the first film, it never

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really crossed my mind that Fury of
the Gods wouldn't live up to the first

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film, and spoiler alert, it
didn't. But that's not to say that

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Fury of the Gods is bad or
that I didn't like it, because I

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did. It has everything that made
the first one greats and though it's a

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little less focused and has a little
less heart, I'd definitely recommend watching it

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in the theaters, and I definitely
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the film yet. That was my
first reaction to seeing the film. I

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had just watched the first movie,
the day before I saw Fury of the

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Gods. That was only my second
time ever watching the first Shazam film.

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It was everybody as good as I
remember it being, but walking you away

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from the second film, my initial
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Yeah, and I would agree.
As much as I enjoyed this film,

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it's hard not to be disappointed by
it, you know, especially as we're

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starting to see superhero fatigue set in
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box office, Like, odds are
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success, Like isn't it weird to
say that a film that is entirely fine

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and good still disappointed you. That's
exactly how I felt with A Man of

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the Wass Quantum Mania, which I
had a great time with it. But

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when something doesn't surpass the quality of
what came before, you're getting diminished returns,

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right, which you usually don't see
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film, because people are excited to
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the movie and more to do with
humanity, because they're not coming out to

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see the movie, right and critics
are I think overly harsh on what's a

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really fun family movie? Really though, Shazam not being a success and a

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possible trend of superhero fatigue means that
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You know, as DC is about
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of these projects recently announced, like
now is the absolute worst time for superhero

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fatigue to set in. Like,
if you're a DC fan and you want

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to see more DC films made,
you've got a responsibility. If you're sitting

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on the fence about whether to see
this film in theaters, you get your

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ass out there and you see this
fucking movie. Okay, Billy Madison.

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But the good news in all of
this is that if you see Theory of

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the Gods in theaters, you're gonna
have a good time, because even though

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it may not be as good as
the first film, it's still a lot

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of fun. It has solid action, great special effects, mostly great performances,

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and most notably, it's funny as
hell, Like easily DC's funniest film.

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No, that would go to the
Suicide Squad, but I did laugh

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a lot during this movie. At
the very least It's a more family friendly

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kind of humor, which is nice. The Fury of the Gods does a

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great job of blending the comedy with
horror and a little bit of tragedy,

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just like the first film, though
not as well as the first film.

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You know, the opening of twenty
nineteen Shazam was intense, as was Fury

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of the Gods, with Calypso turning
everyone into violent zombies in a museum before

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his Spara turns them all to stone, so they're like frozen in these terrifying

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poses. It was fantastic and definitely
showed the benefits of hiring a horror film

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director like David F. Sandberg for
the franchise. It gets you hooked in

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the story right away just seeing these
things unfold on screen. Yeah, great

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opening scene. There were monsters in
the first movie, but here they were

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a little more recognizable, like the
minotaurs, the harpies, maticors, and

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cyclops were well realized and fit in
with the mythic origins of Shazam's powers very

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well. I thought, Yeah,
the monsters here were cool. They were

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a little bit less scary than the
Seven Deadly Sins, but I like the

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overall mythological themes like the comics,
you know, beyond the silliness and the

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monsters that are there, the core
story of Shazam has always been a coming

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of age story. You know.
The first film, Billy learned that sometimes

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your family is the one that you
choose, and now that he has this

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family, he's afraid to lose it
and learns that despite all of his power,

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you can't cage and control the ones
you love, and that sometimes protecting

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what you have has a personal cost, that self sacrifice, in a way

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is the ultimate display of love.
It's one of the strengths of this franchise,

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those familiar themes. It has very
strong themes. Yeah. Unfortunately,

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though, I would say this film
kind of trips into its themes since you

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know, there were a lot of
characters to juggle this time. You know,

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you have the cast of kids and
their superhero adult versions, three villains,

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two parents, a wizard, and
a partridgin a peatree. The kids,

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in my opinion, are the best
part of the movie. You know,

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like, they're funny, great actors, and it makes more sense to

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see them learned coming of age lessons. But sadly, in this film,

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the filmmakers decided that scenes that didn't
need the kids to be their adult versions,

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such as like planning in the Rock
of Eternity, it had the kids

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and their adult versions. I would
have much rather seen the kids and their

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camaraderie and their chemistry together. It's
just fun, and you know, it

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reminds you of your own childhood,
and it's like the same reasons why everyone

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loved like the first IT movie.
It's just great to see those kids come

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of age, and there's something inherently
more silly watching adults pretend to be children.

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It kind of takes you away from
maybe the importance of those coming of

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age themes as they're happening in the
film, when you see a bunch of

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thirty year old learning those lessons exactly. It was kind of interesting how they

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mirrored the protagonist lesson about controlling the
ones you love with the antagonists lesson in

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that you see the daughters of Atlas
kind of learned that same thing, and

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that they were very controlling of each
other until one of them basically snapped,

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you know, Lucy Lou's character.
Yeah, I mean, like in Greek

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mythology, the mythical godlike figures have
always had you know just as many dysfunctions

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as humans on Earth do. The
Daughters of Atlas very much had a power

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struggle amongst the three of them in
a way that you're right, slightly did

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mirror the struggle that Billy was having
with his siblings, But ultimately Billy learned

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a lesson that the daughters did not. Let's talk more about the cast and

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their arcs and the character breakdown,
starting with Shazam slash Billy Batson. Now,

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Shazam was played by Zachary Levi and
his younger counterpart, Billy Batson,

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was played by Astra Angel. Zachary
Levi is a terrific comedic actor who also

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nails dramatic moments. But as great
as he was, I did miss Astra

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Angel as Billy because Billy is the
dramatic core, the true form, whereas

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Shazam is more of the mask.
I thought they did a really good job

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balancing the two characters in the first
film and not so much here. Yeah.

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Yeah, Billy had a lot of
great stuff in the first movie to

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work with in regards to trying to
find his mom and stuff like that,

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and just dealing with the struggles of
being an orphan and getting a new family

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and stuff. There was a moment
that was like that in this sequel where

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his mom tells him to change back
into Billy so that she can talk to

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her son, and it was a
nice moment, but it also felt like

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it was too little, too late. It felt a little shoehorned. Honestly,

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like they were trying to capture the
magic of the first film in that

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moment, but with everything else going
on, it almost felt out of place.

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Now the movie, Billy tries to
use his adult form to throw some

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authoritative weight amongst his siblings and organize
them into a team, but he's not

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an adult and has no real idea
what he's doing. Seemingly lacking the wisdom

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of Solomon that's supposed to make up
his power sets, he doesn't know how

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to keep his family together despite his
reluctance to fully integrate himself into his foster

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family. You know, he calls
his mother Rosa instead of Mom because he

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knows he's aging out of the foster
system soon and doesn't want to get too

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attached because he's afraid of being abandoned
like he was by his real mom.

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At the end of the film,
when Shazam realizes that the method to destroy

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the Daughters of Atlas and the Tree
of Life could destroy all of Philadelphia,

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including his family. He decides that
it would be better for him to die

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than the rest of his family,
and he does, which was a huge

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surprise, though I hate the way
they brought him back to life. Like

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I complain a lot about Deos x
Machina on this podcast, but this was

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literal Deo SX Machina with Wonder Rouman
making a cameo at the end to bring

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Zam back to life. I can't
decide if it was totally appropriate for this

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film or totally lame. I kind
of side with the latter. While it

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was novel to see Wonder Woman in
this movie, it felt kind of convenient

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and cheap. Well that's the problem
with Dao sex Machina, right. And

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as much as I love this Wonder
Woman cameo by Gal Gadote, it always

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brings up to question like in these
shared universes, like well where are the

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other heroes? Like why didn't Wonder
Woman help in Philadelphia if she knew what

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was going on or saw what was
going on like she did that in Batman

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v. Superman. When I intervene
earlier, like where are the Avengers when

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like, I don't know, Moon
Night is having trouble in Egypt or something

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like that. You know, well, you can say that about the comics

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too, that's fair. So I
tend not to like that argument. I

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don't think that's the reason why Wonder
Woman's apparents felt cheaper lame. The fact

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that she came around as a means
of resurrection, I think is really what

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made it feel so cheap. Yeah, that's I mean, they didn't really

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allude to that being able to happen
in the realm of the gods. But

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getting back to Billy's arc, you
know, his apparent's lack of wisdom or

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knowledge of what to do made him
feel unworthy to be the Wizard's champion.

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But the Wizard assured Billy that it
was his heart that was wise, and

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that by following his heart, it
would lead him to make the right decisions,

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which was ultimately to sacrifice himself for
the family he loved. And I

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thought that was interesting, Like,
usually when you think of wisdom, you

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think of not really intelligence, but
experience, which Billy doesn't have. The

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kid only has his own instincts and
that's really what I think the wizard was

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referring to. That was a nice
moment. I liked that. I did

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love the joke when Shazam referred to
Solomon as solo man. Yeah, that

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was great. Solomon has always struck
me as like one of the weird inclusions

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in the Shazamn pantheon because he was
not a Greek, a Roman god.

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He was a Jewish king, So
I guess Athena didn't quite fit in there.

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Hazam. I think one of the
vast improvements of the character over the

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first film was the costume. Oh
yeah, the costumes in this movie were

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fantastic for the Shazam family. I
think my favorite improvement was the lightning bowl

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emblem. It looked so much cooler
in this movie. I thought it was

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really well done. The costume really
was pretty much flawless. There were some

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like weird like buckle things on the
sides, but even those like I didn't

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mind. I thought they looked cool. Yeah. Those silver embellishments, yeah

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I did not like those, actually
really yeah, I found them visually distracting.

406
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:34.519
I could take him relieve them,
but I didn't think they looked bad.

407
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.440
Still, an improvement will agree over
the first movie for sure, for

408
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.519
sure, and that goes for all
of the Shazam family, not just Shazam,

409
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:48.000
including Freddie Freeman's character. Now,
Freddie Freeman was played by Jack Dylon

410
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.319
Grazer as a kid and Adam Brody
as a superpowered adult. Jack Dylon Grazer

411
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.359
shines in ensemble roles like this send
the movie it, and Adam Brody totally

412
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:03.000
captures that same orgy, making it
the most believable of the kid adult pairings

413
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.759
in the movie. Freddy is totally
living his dream of being a superhero and

414
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.359
being free from his disability. He's
the most dedicated of the group, you

415
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.839
know, listening to police scanners and
going off on his own late at night

416
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:21.000
to fight crime. He doesn't want
to be Billy's sidekick. He wants to

417
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.319
be his own thing, and rightfully
so, because he's heroic by nature,

418
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.319
you know, as evidenced by how
he stood up for the new girl Anne,

419
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.880
despite the thrashing he would receive from
the bullies when Anne is revealed to

420
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.640
be one of the daughters of Atlas
and Freddie is humbled by having his powers

421
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:44.039
taken away, his heroism never falters
despite being imprisoned or even unable to run

422
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.240
away, and he proves himself in
moments such as when he displays a limited

423
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.519
ability to stand up to Calypso's chaos
whisperings or even the fear emanating from the

424
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.400
dragon Ladon. By the end of
the movie, though, he's shown the

425
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:03.680
ultimate example of heroism in sacrifice,
and he expresses regret that he cannot fight

426
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.720
alongside his brother in the end like
Billy had always wanted. Yeah, that

427
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.200
whole arc was really touching, and
I think that Freddie's character was really a

428
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.039
highlight of the film, particularly in
those moments you mentioned when he's like standing

429
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.000
up to the dragon and calling Billy
an asshole for dying on him and stuff

430
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.359
like that. Yeah, really an
emotional performance. I thought he was the

431
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.680
heart of the film, and I
thought he had more interesting arcs to him

432
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.119
than even Billy did. Well,
it was interesting that we got to see

433
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.480
more of Freddie as a kid than
we did Billy as a kid. Yeah,

434
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.599
that's true, and it probably goes
to show that they probably should have

435
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.720
had the other kids on screen more
than what they did, And it may

436
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.559
have to do something with like child
labor laws or something like that maybe in

437
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:47.400
regards to the child actors, yeah, yeah. Moving on to Mary Brownfield,

438
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:52.599
she was played by Grace Caroline Curry
formerly known as Grace Fulton and both

439
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.359
her unpowered and powered adult forms.
I thought she did fine in the role,

440
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.519
as she did in the first film. I actually didn't care too much

441
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.960
for her performance in this movie.
I thought it came across as a little

442
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.960
bit bored or lazy or something.
Largely, I think she was frustrated with

443
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.400
Billy's character and that's what she was
going for, But there was just something

444
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.839
passive about her performance I found.
Well, I think, you know,

445
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.640
she was hanging around a bunch of
kids. I think she would have much

446
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.759
rather been doing something else. But
she also didn't want to give up the

447
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.039
superhero lifestyle. She enjoyed being a
superhero. I get that, but in

448
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.920
regards to the performance itself, it
came across as a little bit more disinterested

449
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.480
than it needed to and like even
towards the end of the movie, she

450
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.359
didn't really have much to do,
Like she was running around with the other

451
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.160
kids and was really taken away from
any agency that she might have had earlier

452
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.240
in the film. Or I think
she just wasn't a big enough character.

453
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.880
I don't really think she had a
major arc in the story to really give

454
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.599
her more screen time than was allotted
already. Well, we know that,

455
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.319
you know, she wanted to go
to school, she wanted to help support

456
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.440
her family. We don't really know
what happened to any of that. Well,

457
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.200
you know, like in the comic, she's in this film serving as

458
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.079
Barry's more mature mentor figure of sorts, like she's always been more mature than

459
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.200
him. She recognizes that Billy's trying
to get as much time as he can

460
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.200
with his siblings before he fears he
leaves their lives forever, and she lets

461
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.960
him know that, you know,
he needs to be responsible, like she

462
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.640
is, balancing superhero life with work
life to help support her parents while also

463
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:29.640
trying to have just a normal life
for someone her age. Mary is Billy's

464
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:35.599
example of what sacrifice for love looks
like, and that ultimately does pay off

465
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.200
at the end. But you're right
in that we don't really see how that

466
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.039
pays off for her. Like I
guess it would have been nice to see

467
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.160
her finally go to college at the
end of this film, maybe even like

468
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.839
in an after credit scene, or
something like that. I don't know,

469
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.880
honestly. You know, even taking
like community college classes online would have been

470
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.160
a nice tidbit, like before the
Wizard Shazam visits the house for dinner.

471
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:01.079
It does raise an interesting point as
to why Billy was afraid of aging out

472
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:06.119
of the household when he already saw
that Mary did not. I think part

473
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.599
of it was just a fear of
growing up, which is really interesting for

474
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.800
a character who has an adult form
as well. And I think that was

475
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.599
kind of lost in a way that
wouldn't have been if it was Asher Angel

476
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:21.880
delivering those same lines. I don't
know why he was nervous. I think

477
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:23.599
it just meant that it was time
to grow up, in time to leave

478
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.639
the nest, and you know,
he wasn't ready for that. He wasn't

479
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.639
ready to take on the kind of
responsibility that Mary had. Maybe he didn't

480
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.719
want that for himself. It is
interesting how the character of Billy was so

481
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.639
independent in the first movie and then
so dependent in the sequel. I think

482
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:43.400
that kind of just speaks to the
danger and finding someone or something to love

483
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.559
is that now you have something or
someone to lose. So it kind of

484
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.559
makes sense that like you wouldn't want
to lose that now more than ever.

485
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.199
Good point. Yeah, but back
to Mary. You mentioned how great the

486
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:59.639
costumes were. I think she had
the best costume of the Shazam family.

487
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.519
I would argue the number one best
female superhero costume of all time. I

488
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.639
think I said that honor went to
Cyclone in Black Adam, but Cyclone is

489
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:14.440
now number two because Mary's outfit was
like an amalgam of like all of the

490
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:19.559
best female superhero costumes from like Wonder
Room into Supergirl. It was just perfection.

491
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.719
It was really well done. Yeah, I'm going to skip the rest

492
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.199
of the Shazan family real quick and
moved to the villains, starting with Hespera.

493
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.119
She was played by Oscar winning master
thespian Helen Mirren. Any role she

494
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.960
plays, she plays seriously, and
I'm really glad she took this role because

495
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.519
I'm kind of afraid under anyone else
it would not have been done as well.

496
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.639
You know, I was kind of
horrified that they had cast this woman

497
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:49.280
who was up there in age to
be the bad guy in this superhero action

498
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.800
flick. I thought it might look
kind of goofy when she's throwing fists with

499
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.800
the superheroes, but to my surprise, it didn't. I thought she did

500
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.559
fantastic. Oh yeah, yeah.
I knew from the trailers when she delivers

501
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.679
like a Spartan kick that it was
going to be pretty badass, and it

502
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.079
was. But like even when she
got like slammed to the ground like freaking

503
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:13.079
power bombed by Shazam and then she
was about to do the same thing to

504
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.519
him, she was actually intimidating physically
in this film. Yeah, I was

505
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:21.000
impressed. Job will done to Helen
Mirren for sure. Yeah, yeah,

506
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.760
she was totally game now. His
Spur is an original character not in the

507
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:30.480
comics. Alongside her sisters, the
Daughters of Atlas. She supposedly had control

508
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.800
over the elements, though it really
seemed more like telekinesis to me outside of

509
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.000
like turning people to stone in the
beginning. Yeah, I was gonna say

510
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.719
that too, although she did like
superheat these prison bars or something like that.

511
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.760
But yeah, I couldn't quite make
out where her power set was because

512
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.880
she could also like control this energy
magic dome kind of thing, which I'm

513
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:52.039
not sure if it was made out
of like magic water or something. It

514
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:53.840
was strange. Oh yeah, I
didn't think it was water. I thought

515
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.639
it was just magic, but I
don't know. I would have loved to

516
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.159
have seen more things like fire and
wane things like that. I think that

517
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.360
would have been a lot cooler than
just Telekinesis. Now Hespera and her sister

518
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.559
Calypso gained the Wizard's broken staff in
the opening scene of the film, with

519
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.679
the intention of using it to get
revenge on the Wizard, whom they already

520
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.000
had imprisoned, as it was the
wizard who killed their father Atlas, and

521
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.159
they feel Shazam and the Champions don't
deserve their father's power along with the power

522
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.519
from the other gods. At some
point, the daughter's new mission becomes to

523
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.920
restore the realm of the gods with
the Golden Apple from the Tree of Life,

524
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.079
but they argue where to plant it, and for some reason, they

525
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.679
also in prison Philadelphia in a dome
and imprisoned Freddie. I will admit the

526
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.840
motivations for some of the actions of
the daughters gets a little muddied, and

527
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:49.239
I'm still not sure, like why
they didn't simply use the Wizard's staff to

528
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.320
give themselves more power. Why didn't
Shazam use the magic staff to steal the

529
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.280
powers of the Daughters of Atlas,
which we know could be done. It

530
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.199
could be used to take away their
immortality because we saw Calypso use it on

531
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:05.880
Anthea that way. So yeah,
a lot of just strangeness around that and

532
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.719
even Hespera's motivations. You know,
in the beginning of the film, it

533
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.840
looked like she was, you know, very much in charge and very much

534
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.920
the one pushing for their agenda.
And yet by the end she had this

535
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.119
kind of change of heart that kind
of surprisingly came out of nowhere. It

536
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.280
did by the end of the film, you know, once the daughters had

537
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:29.679
the apple and Hespera considers their mission
complete essentially, but Calypso betrays her sisters,

538
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.119
you know, killing Hespera. Though
as hesparaly dying, she ends up

539
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.360
helping Shazam trap and defeat Calypso,
recognizing him as a true god. And

540
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.320
I'm not quite sure why once she
got the apple, she kind of seemingly

541
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.239
forgot or ignored the whole revenge plot
that kind of kicked the whole movie off.

542
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.920
Yeah, revenge against Shazam and his
champions. It was more about restoring

543
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.519
the realm of the gods. Once
she got the apple. It was really

544
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.360
Calypso who was the one to kind
of like keep them on track with the

545
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.960
whole revenge angle. But speaking of
Calypso, you know, she was played

546
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.880
by Lucy Lou and she yells a
lot on this film, Like, I'm

547
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.119
not sure she handled the dialogue as
well as the other daughters, which was

548
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:13.559
unfortunate because you know, Lucy Lou
is an established actress. I totally saw

549
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.400
that coming from the trailers. There
was a line in the marketing where she

550
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:21.760
was like, this ends now,
and I brought that up during our discussion

551
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.239
of one of the trailers, and
I feel like you didn't believe me.

552
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.760
Yeah, I think I remember that. Actually, I don't know what to

553
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:32.920
say. You're wrong. No,
I'm never gonna say that. Kudos,

554
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.679
I guess thanks. Yeah, I
didn't have much faith that she would be

555
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.599
able to give a convincing performance here, and yeah, it was a little

556
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:47.119
bit cheesy and it looked like extra
bad alongside Helen Muhren, who like totally

557
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.599
sold her lines even when she was
reading that ridiculous letter from Billy. Like,

558
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.079
Helen Muhren totally sold it. That
was a great gag. That whole

559
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:00.639
thing with them dictating to Steve and
like Steve writing down everything they were saying.

560
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.320
I laughed my ass off. It
was great. Now, regarding Calypso's

561
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.239
arc, you know, she was
the daughter in control of chaos, and

562
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.159
her ability to control others by whispering
was actually really cool, I thought.

563
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.760
And being that she controlled chaos,
I thought it was appropriate that she was

564
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.119
the one to be the most evil
and try to destroy humanity over the Wizard's

565
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.199
actions because they were human. I
wonder why it was Calypso that was so

566
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.880
gungko on destroying humanity over her sisters. I think she was just more vengeful

567
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.360
in general. It kind of seemed
like she had a chip on her shoulder

568
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.840
because of the way she was treated
by her older sister. That's true,

569
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:43.039
like playing second fiddle In that regard, her arc kind of mirrored Freddie Freeman's

570
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.599
because he didn't want to play second
fiddle to Billy, right, right.

571
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.679
But what's interesting is that she didn't
actually need the staff of Zam or this

572
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:55.119
dragon guy to destroy humanity like she
could have easily done on her own,

573
00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.920
as she proved in the film's opening
sequence, just by inciting chaos amongst the

574
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.519
populace. She still could have fulfilled
her goal of destroying humanity and also planted

575
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.360
the seat of life in the realm
of the gods like they were supposed to.

576
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.280
That's true, Honestly. If Hespera
didn't turn those people to stone in

577
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.199
the museum at the beginning of the
film, like that would have been it

578
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.079
for humanity. Yeah, the movie
would have been over. Yeah, the

579
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.639
cast would have just kept spreading interesting
plot hole. Movie gone to Anthea,

580
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.599
the third daughter of Atlas. She
was played by Rachel Zegler, a relatively

581
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:35.199
new actress in Hollywood who was actually
cast by Jack Dylon Grazer after some chemistry

582
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.960
tests between him and several other actresses. I think she did great in the

583
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.599
role, and I think she's going
places. Yeah, and I thought she

584
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.360
did have a pretty good chemistry with
Freddie. Now, Anthea, who goes

585
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.199
by Anne early in the movie,
is a love interest for Freddie, which

586
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:53.519
is interesting considering Freddie isn't the protagonist
in the film. She used him because

587
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.360
she knew of his reputation for being
friends with the Wizard's Champions, but when

588
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.360
he was revealed as being one of
those champions, she took pity on him

589
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:06.039
and kind of played both sides throughout
the film. Yeah, some of her

590
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.599
actions were a little bit convenient to
the plot, but her sisters were jerks,

591
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.719
so I could see why she kind
of wasn't totally sold with all the

592
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:16.559
douchebaggery that they were causing. I
want to know why she went undercover as

593
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.679
a teenager in this movie. Well, it was to lure information from Freddie

594
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:23.880
as to the whereabouts of the champions. They didn't need to do that.

595
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:29.360
They could have just caused chaos in
the city of Philadelphia where these guys were

596
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:32.599
and brought them out that way.
That's very true and even easier. Clipso

597
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.320
could have gone up to Freddie and
just whispered in his ear, you know,

598
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.440
say their names like she did later
on in the film. Right,

599
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:45.599
he was like Destiny's Child? Did
it better? That was great? Yeah,

600
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:47.639
Yeah, there was like no reason
for her to go undercover. It

601
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.320
was just a strange element that the
movie introduced to add that romantic angle.

602
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.519
Right, I'm a little bit confused
as to what her powers were too.

603
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.559
Oh, axis, I thought that
was really cool. She was able just

604
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.760
to like spin things around her.
Yeah, But like when she was like

605
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.639
basically rearranging the city of Philadelphia,
Like, don't you think that would be

606
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.920
like physically devastating to the city and
the people living inside of it as they're

607
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.639
like being whooshed around at such high
speeds. Are you asking me if I

608
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.719
thought it was appropriately dangerous for a
villain to have that type of power.

609
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.599
Yes, I do. I'm saying
that the movie didn't address the consequences of

610
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:29.480
a power so large in scale.
You know, when she's throwing skyscrapers at

611
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.039
Shazam, it's almost like it didn't
affect the people living in the city.

612
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.000
Well, maybe it didn't. Maybe
it just warped space. Why does everything

613
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.079
need to be spelled out for you, Joseph, I guess warping space is

614
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.920
the best way to put it.
Going back to the rest of the Shazam

615
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.440
family, not much to say,
particularly about characters like Eugene, though I

616
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.039
did like his idea to use video
games to help foster teamwork in military strategy

617
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.599
for his siblings. Pedro. He
played a fairly important role in the film,

618
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.400
as he was the one who found
the rocky of Eternity's library, and

619
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:07.039
though I'm surprised he didn't tell anyone
about it, earlier. Pedro is a

620
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.679
pretty quiet character. Darla was cute
as always. I love the Taki Tani

621
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.440
Easter egg with the kitten in the
Shazam comics, Taki Tani is a tiger

622
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.920
who gained superpowers. My favorite moment
in the film also came from Darla.

623
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.719
It was when she was writing the
unicorns just mowing down the monsters, and

624
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.480
she was like, taste the rainbow, motherfuckers. That was so good.

625
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.320
I tried to stop laughing, but
I couldn't. I think they only needed

626
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.079
to say taste the rainbow once,
though it seemed repetitive in that way because

627
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.719
she whispered it to the unicorn earlier. Yea, so it was kind of

628
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.400
like the same joke. That's true. Actually I whispered it out loud right

629
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.840
before she did because it was just
like way on the nose. Product placement.

630
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.159
Yeah, Skittles being like ambrosia,
the nectar of the gods. I

631
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.719
don't know, no, I mean, skittles are good, but I don't

632
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.320
know if they're ambrosia good. You
know what is ambrosia good? A good

633
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:04.039
question. I don't know. Like
I would say, my favorite candy is

634
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.280
jellybellies, like jelly beans like just
because of the assortment of flavors that they

635
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.360
have none of the gross shit,
but I like the variety that those provide.

636
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.639
M I feel like I'm not the
best expert on what candy would be

637
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:20.960
the ambrosia of the Gods starburst,
The correct answer was sour patch kids.

638
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:25.280
I'm sorry, those are good.
Yeah. Lastly, I want to touch

639
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:30.320
on the Wizard played by Jiman Hansu. I use a little bit more comedic

640
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.480
relief this time around, but he
pulled it off like he's a good actor,

641
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.760
and I'm glad they found a way
to bring him back, even though

642
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.039
I don't quite understand how they did. The way I took it was that

643
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.199
once he gave up his power of
the Champion, he could no longer exist

644
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.639
in the realm of the Champion,
and so while it looked like he died

645
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.760
in the first movie, he was
actually just transported to the realm of the

646
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.599
Gods. That's where they were.
I thought, Yeah, but which didn't

647
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.639
make sense because he wasn't a god. Yeah, you think he would be

648
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.519
sent to Earth or something. What
if when the Wizard Chisam gave up his

649
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:09.000
power, he was transported to Earth
and then he was just captured by the

650
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.880
sisters at that point and then take
into the realm of the guns. Maybe

651
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:20.559
I don't know. I don't know, that's the problem those Yeah. Moving

652
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.719
on to the story highlights, Hispara
and Calypso, two of the daughters of

653
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:29.039
the Titan Atlas, break into the
Acropolis Museum in Athens, Greece, to

654
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:34.239
steal the Wizard's broken staff. The
duo then take it to the imprisoned Wizard,

655
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.119
forcing him to repair the staff and
activate its powers again. That opening

656
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.239
sequence was awesome, really cool,
great way to set up the film.

657
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.760
In Philadelphia, Billy Batson and his
Chazam family of Foster siblings save people on

658
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.679
the collapsing Benjamin Franklin Bridge, but
are called out for its destruction. The

659
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.159
group is drifting apart at home due
to them growing up and having different personal

660
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.840
interests. Speaking of the bridge collapse
scene, what caused the bridge to collapse?

661
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.719
Do we know? Usually events like
that are triggered by some kind of

662
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.199
major catalysts, usually by the main
villain of the film, But here there

663
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.199
seemed to be no catalyst. The
bridge just was falling apart for no reason.

664
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.639
That's true. I think when I
was watching that part, I was

665
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:22.199
waiting to hear like how the villain
was responsible, but then we just never

666
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.079
learned that and I forgot about it. That's a great point. And like

667
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:30.519
that bridge was freaking crumbling, like
it was made out of paper. Like

668
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.079
that's insane. If that just happened
naturally, that's true, that's a plot

669
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.320
hole. Honestly, I feel how
did the bridge start collapsing? I don't

670
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.360
know now. Billy is worried about
being kicked out of the Vasquez family after

671
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:47.079
he turns eighteen and ages out of
the foster system. In a dream at

672
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:52.239
Shazam, Billy is warned by the
Wizard about Hisspara and Calypso, and he

673
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:58.039
and the Shazam family researched the daughters
and the rock of Eternity's library. And

674
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.519
that library was really cool, is
very magical and felt kind of like a

675
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.119
room you'd find in Hogwarts in the
Harry Potter universe. Yeah, totally,

676
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.639
Steve the Penn was really cool.
Yeah. I like the way this movie

677
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:13.199
treated magic in general. Actually,
it's very different from like the Doctor Strange

678
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.039
type of magic that you see in
Commtage and stuff like that. Here,

679
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:20.960
it's a little bit more whimsical and
pretty unique among superhero franchises. True.

680
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:23.880
Yeah, that's true. Freddie Freeman, still bullied at school, falls for

681
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:29.159
a new girl named Anne, to
whom he shows off his superhero self.

682
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:34.440
Unfortunately, his Spara and Calypso arrive
with the Staff and steal Freddy's powers.

683
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.400
Anne is revealed to be their youngest
sister, Anthea. Billy and the other

684
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.960
Shazam family try to save Freddie,
but the daughters kidnap him and place a

685
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.480
dome around the city, trapping everyone
inside. The scene where Calypso causes the

686
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:54.199
teacher to kill himself was super dark. That was hardcore. I'm wondering why

687
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:59.400
that was necessary. I guess to
sit up the stakes. But yeah,

688
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.440
poor dude right wrong plays at the
wrong time. So the goal of the

689
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:07.960
sisters at this point was to exchange
Freddie for the group's powers. Is that

690
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.239
what was going on there? I
believe so. Yeah, they were still

691
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.280
bent on revenge against the Wizard's champions. It's interesting why they didn't just fight

692
00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:20.159
them there, considering they had the
staff, they could have used it to

693
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.920
steal everybody else's powers. Very true. Yeah, like when Billy was right

694
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.880
up against them. They could have
easily just blasted him with the staff.

695
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.599
I don't know why they didn't do
that. Instead, they decided to put

696
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:36.960
Philadelphia in a dome, which why
and wager? Yeah, it's change if

697
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.880
Freddie's imprisoned along with the Wizard.
In the God's Realm, Hespara and Calypso

698
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.239
revealed they want revenge because the Wizard
killed their father. Meanwhile, the Shazamne

699
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:51.920
family enter the Rock of Eternity,
where they encounter a sentient pen named Steve,

700
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.519
which they used to draft a letter
to Hespera as a negotiation for Freddy's

701
00:49:55.519 --> 00:50:00.920
release. Billy meets Hespera, and
while the meeting is initially cordial, she

702
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:07.239
and Calypso soon fight the Shazam family. Pedro loses his powers during the fight,

703
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.079
while Hespara is captured and returned to
the Rock. I love the door

704
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.719
thing they have going on at the
Rocky of Eternity, where they could just

705
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.079
like turn any door into a gateway
to it, and the porta Potti thing

706
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.880
was kind of hilarious. Yeah,
I'm wondering if it was all part of

707
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:29.400
Hespera's plan to get captured at this
point, though they implied as much she

708
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.519
would be taken to the Rocky of
Elternity and then get the Seat of Life

709
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.239
there. I think it was Yeah, I think it was her plan,

710
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.800
but I'm not sure how she knew
that it would be at the Rocky of

711
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.639
Eternity. I guess maybe if she
knew that the Wizard had had the apple

712
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.960
at one point, that it would
make sense for him to keep it there

713
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.079
where they couldn't reach. Yeah,
and plus, like if their plan was

714
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.760
to go to the Rock of Eternity, all along, the way they went

715
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.360
about doing it was very strange.
Well, I mean that might be the

716
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.559
reason why they connapped Freddie and didn't
depower the others, was because their ultimate

717
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:06.440
goal wasn't necessarily revenge, but to
gain the Apple, the seed of life.

718
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.400
It's just hard because when you don't
know the villains like motivations until like

719
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.239
the last very possible moment, it's
hard to sort of always understand what's going

720
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:20.000
on with the movie and why.
And thinking about it more, it seems

721
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.480
like Anthea did have the best approach
going undercover, but everything was done wrong.

722
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:27.199
I think she could have convinced Freddie
to take her to the Rock of

723
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:30.000
Eternity. Oh yeah, without her
sister's intervening. I don't know. I

724
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.199
mean, there's way seemed to work
as well. Yeah, it's just they're

725
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.239
multiple motivations. You know, they
want revenge, but they also want the

726
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:38.559
seat, so they want to be
captured, but they also want to fight

727
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:44.079
take their powers, but they also
want to punish humanity. It's a lot.

728
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.039
It's I'm having so much trouble with
their whole plan. Yeah, as

729
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.800
am. I also I wonder why
the apple the Seat of Life thing?

730
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.039
Why was the Seat of Life a
paperweight in the library. It's so convenient.

731
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:02.679
Beat the shit out of you right
now? Sorry, I just I

732
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.480
think about everything. The more I
have an issue with it, I'm going

733
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.199
to go back and we were going
to rerecord at man, and I'm gonna

734
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.239
be just as nippicky as you're being
right now. I feel like I'm not

735
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.360
being that nippicky. I'm just really
honestly trying to understand everything that happened in

736
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:22.039
this film and why, I mean, the apple was behind like a secret

737
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.159
door with like a secret button and
stuff like that. You think it would

738
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:30.519
be in an actual like magic safe
or something like that, and not wrong.

739
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.519
Come on, man, it was
a paperweight. Back to the story,

740
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.920
Hesperah easily breaks out and steals the
Golden Apple, the seed to the

741
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:44.840
Tree of Life. Meanwhile, Freddie
and the Wizard try to escape the God's

742
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:50.400
realm with Anthea's help, just as
Hespera returns with the apple. However,

743
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.159
the daughters argue, as Hesperah and
Anthea want to use the apple to revive

744
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:59.719
their realm, while Calypso wishes to
plant it on Earth and conquer it.

745
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.320
Freddie steals the apple but is discovered, though Billy and the Shazam family show

746
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.920
up, and Freddie reacquires his powers. This was a funny scene where they

747
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:14.039
use the flaming violin as a distraction, like what is that? And he's

748
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.440
like, I have no idea.
A lot of great moments here, like

749
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:22.039
when Shazam throws the staff at Freddie
for him to catch it and it's easily

750
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.519
intercepted, and he's like, shit, I hated that, honestly, Like

751
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.360
he should have known. I was
like, what the heck did you just

752
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.360
do? It made me angry.
That's a good point, like considering that

753
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.400
Shazam knew he was more powerful than
Freddie, given that Freddie was an immortal

754
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:39.400
form Why would he try to give
the staff to someone who is less able

755
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.400
to protect it? And why throw
it when you have like superspeed? Yeah,

756
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.079
why give it to him? In
general, I just yeah, a

757
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:51.079
lot of I don't so many questions
that are being brought up just talking about

758
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.519
this film. It's it's not easy. It's not easy. You get mad

759
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:58.400
at me, but you have the
same questions. Whatever, moving gone.

760
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.000
Billy and the Shazam family emerge with
the Wizard in the Vasquez home, where

761
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.599
they reveal their secret identities to their
foster parents. Calypso appears with a dragon

762
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.400
named Ladon to acquire the apple.
He was way cool. Like in mythology,

763
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.760
Ladon is supposed to have one hundred
heads. But I actually liked the

764
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.480
vine bark. Look. They gave
the dragon here, and I thought,

765
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.480
you know, giving Calypso this formidable
pet was a smart move because her powers

766
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:30.519
alone would not have been cinematic enough
for an end battle. You're not wrong

767
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:36.280
in the sense that her using her
standard powers of chaos wouldn't have given the

768
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.639
Shazan family someone to punch except all
the people of Philadelphia. Yeah, that

769
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:44.760
wouldn't look good all, But Billy
lose their powers in the skirmish. While

770
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:49.880
Calypso retrieves the apple, she intends
to plant the tree on earth rather than

771
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:54.480
in the God's realm, planning to
terraform the earth. Calypso mortally wounds Hispora

772
00:54:54.519 --> 00:55:00.159
and depowers Anthea when they object.
It's a little questionable why Calypso decided to

773
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:06.920
depower Anthea but straight up murder Hespara. I wonder why she didn't depower both

774
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.079
of them or try to murder both
of them. It is interesting that you're

775
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:15.400
asking so many questions that who cares? Yeah, okay, I mean it

776
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.760
just leads up to the whole events
later on, where Hespara is able to

777
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.440
use her magic to help out Shazam
because she is able to survive her sister's

778
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:28.599
murderous attack for a while. I
think ultimately she was just more threatened by

779
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:32.960
Hespera and just wanted to punish her
younger sister Anthea. Yeah, that's a

780
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.119
totally valid reason. I think,
why can't you give me more of those

781
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:44.079
to my questions because I need time
to think of them. Calypso later plants

782
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:47.639
the tree at Citizens Bank Park,
which spawns monsters that attack the city,

783
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.360
Billy, in despair, asks the
Wizard to revoke his powers, though the

784
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:58.679
Wizard assures him he is a true
hero. Heating the Wizard's words, Billy

785
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:04.320
turns into Shazam flies to stop Calypso, while the Shazam family enlisted the help

786
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.039
of unicorns to fend off the monsters
in the city. Did you think it

787
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.320
was strange? How earlier in the
film, the wizard Chazam was like,

788
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.880
I chose poorly, and then in
the scene in the parking garage was like,

789
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:19.360
you are a true hero. I
chose correctly. I did think that

790
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:23.519
was strange, And I'm not quite
sure where the one eighty happened where he

791
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:28.079
changed his mind. I was trying
to think about that. I guess because

792
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.599
they were able to rescue him,
that changed his mind. But there was

793
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.079
nothing really else that they did that
they had anything to show for, because

794
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.119
they still did not have the staff
and they gave up the seat of life.

795
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.880
We did see him kind of come
around on Freddie once he started calling

796
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.320
him Freddie. Maybe that was the
moment. That's probably it, Like he

797
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:51.480
kind of saw that Freddie was heroic
and that he was chosen by the Champion,

798
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:54.760
that he chose, and that was
an implication that Billy was wise and

799
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:59.679
who he chose. Yeah, yeah, there we go. Chazanne persuades a

800
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:04.679
die Kispara to help him stop Calypso, before realizing the dome reacts violently to

801
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:08.320
his lightning. Billy urges Calypso to
the park while Hespera shrinks the dome to

802
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:13.079
contain them. I am surprised that
she helped him, Honestly, I think

803
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:15.800
she just really wanted to get back
at her sister for killing her as opposed

804
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:20.039
to trying to save the people of
Philadelphia by that. Yeah, yeah,

805
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.199
for sure. Billy fights Calypso and
Laddon before killing them both by overloading the

806
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:30.039
staff with electricity, destroying the tree
and Calypso's army with them at the cost

807
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:36.039
of his own life. The scarring
they did on Billy's face that was super

808
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:37.800
sad. I kind of wish they
wouldn't have done that at all, though.

809
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.320
I think he could have came close
to sacrificing himself without actually dying,

810
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.039
because the more you have these heroes
dying these films, the more it cheapens

811
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:49.639
the act, especially the way you
know he was resurrected as we'd touched on

812
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.480
earlier. I'm totally going to agree
with you there. I think they should

813
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.360
have kept him dead. Of course, they couldn't do that because you know,

814
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:58.079
they're trying to set up a sequel
at the end of this film,

815
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.840
but it was definitely cheap. Like
you mentioned now, Anthea brings Billy's graving

816
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:06.960
family to her kingdom for his funeral
as they mourned for him. However,

817
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.719
the demi goddess wonder Rooman suddenly appears
and repairs the Staff and buing it with

818
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.559
her power before using it to revive
the god's realm and resurrect Billy, who

819
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:21.599
happily reunites with his family. Billy
then uses the staff to restore both his

820
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:27.039
siblings powers and that of Anthea and
the Wizard. The Shazam family fixes their

821
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.239
home while Anthea and the Wizard take
up residence on Earth. One of the

822
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:36.440
moments in this movie that made me
smile was when Shazam finally asked the Wizard

823
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.559
what his superhero name was, because
it's been a running gag throughout all these

824
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.280
films that he's had multiple superhero names. You know, he couldn't settle on

825
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.360
one right and the Wizards just like
your name Shazam. They're like, oh,

826
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:51.800
yeah, it makes sense, Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah,

827
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.119
And then Freddie's like, I think
we could beat it. Though. It

828
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.079
makes you wonder like all the other
characters are going to take up for their

829
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:02.639
names Shazam, Junior Lady Shazam's zam
At, Super Shazam and Thundercrack, I

830
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:08.920
don't know. In the mid credit
scene, Emilia Harcourt and John Economos attempt

831
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.280
to recruit Billy On, behalf of
Amanda Waller, to join the Justice Society,

832
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.920
which blew my mind. On one
hand, I really love the fact

833
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.519
that Shazam would join the Justice Society. I could see him being their Superman

834
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.920
because he's been a part of the
Justice Society and the comics. Yeah.

835
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:31.079
And what's interesting is that in the
comics, the Justice Society was formed largely

836
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.639
at the request of the US government
by President Roosevelt during World War Two.

837
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.119
Yes, and Amanda Waller works for
the US government, and it seems like

838
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:45.760
she's behind the formation of this team, as we saw in the Black Adam

839
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:51.719
movie. So it's like the government's
response to the Justice League basically, and

840
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.599
they're calling it the Justice Society as
a kind of riff on the existing team's

841
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:59.400
name. It's very in line with
what they did with the New fifty two

842
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.320
in the com mix, because when
the Justice League formed, it was just

843
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:07.960
called the Justice League. And Amanda
Waller made her own counterpart of superheroes capable

844
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.719
of taking out members of the Justice
League, and she called her team the

845
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:15.599
Justice League of America. Oh that's
right, Okay, that's pretty interesting.

846
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.280
Yeah, yeah, I thought so. And that team included characters like Hawkman.

847
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.960
I wonder if this is all going
to lead up to a Justice Society

848
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.800
movie with Eldis Hodges, Hawkman,
Shazam, the New Doctor, Fate,

849
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.039
Anna Smasher, Cyclone and the like. Well, that brings me to my

850
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:31.559
other point, because I said,
in one hand, I liked that he

851
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.679
was going to be a member of
the team. On the other hand,

852
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.400
I don't know if we'll ever see
this team come to fruition. So why

853
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:43.199
include it in the film, Because
it's likely part of James Gunn's plan,

854
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.400
I would say. I mean,
otherwise, they had time to remove this

855
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:49.280
mid credit scene from the film,
and that gives me, I feel like

856
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.760
a false sense of hope. I
mean, the actress who plays Amelia Harcourt

857
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:58.159
is James Gunn's wife, so you
would think that if she was involved in

858
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.280
it, it would have to be
include did in James Gun's future plans,

859
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:06.599
right, But with Shazam's box office, I'm not so sure. I don't

860
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:08.440
think we're gonna get another Shazam film, But I do think that we'll see

861
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:13.320
Shazam again in the DCU. That's
my guess. Really, Okay, yeah,

862
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.000
maybe you're right. I hope you're
right. That would be cool.

863
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:19.960
They couldn't get the Justice League film
to work in theaters. I really hope

864
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:22.639
they could get a Justice Society film
on screen. Now. In a post

865
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:29.559
credit scene and incarcerated, Savannah encounters
mister Mind once again and is frustrated that

866
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.519
Mister Mind hasn't begun enacting their plan
yet. That was kind of funny.

867
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:36.719
He's like, I'm just a caterpillar. I can only move so fast.

868
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.280
I did think there's a lame excuse, considering he can go into people's brains

869
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.159
and control them and move faster that
way. Ultimately, this felt like kind

870
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.039
of a cop out for why they
weren't the villains in this sequel, which

871
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.679
I still think they should have been. You know I would have loved to

872
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.760
have seen Mister Mind and Black Adam
be the villains in the sequel, as

873
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.320
opposed to the Daughters of Atlas,
characters we've never heard of or really care

874
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.320
anything about. I didn't love this
post credit scene because it reminded me of

875
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:06.719
what we could have had and may
never get. This post credit scene did

876
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.039
make me miss Doctor Savannah as a
villain, because I thought he was so

877
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:12.760
effective in the first film, and
it did kind of make me realize that

878
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:16.159
the sequel does have a villain issue. Yeah. Absolutely, Doctor Savannah was

879
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:21.840
a fantastic villain in the first movie, really good, and I can't say

880
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:24.599
the same thing about the Daughters of
Atlas, considering a lot of times a

881
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:29.320
superhero film is only as good as
its villain. As much as I liked

882
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.719
this film and had fun with it, just talking about it made me realize

883
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.840
kind of how broken it is.
I don't know if I blame you for

884
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.480
that. I think I do.
I think you ruined the movie for me

885
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:43.599
because if your nit picky bitchiness,
jeezus, I mean, honestly, I

886
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.280
didn't set out to do that.
It was an honest effort to try to

887
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.639
understand the narrative, because like you, I enjoyed this film. I had

888
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:52.920
fun with it. It's only when
you stop to think about it for long

889
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:58.119
enough that these issues arise that just
didn't come to me during the course of

890
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.400
watching the film. Usually I watch
a film twice in theaters before I review

891
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:07.280
it. I only had the opportunity
to watch this film once, and I

892
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.599
feel like if I would have watched
it a second time, a lot of

893
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.000
the issues that we're talking about would
have kind of come to the surface for

894
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.280
me earlier. Because again, I
enjoyed the movie. I thought it was

895
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:22.320
a great family film. My daughters
loved the movie, and I loved watching

896
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.400
it with them. But I feel
that, you know, though narratively it's

897
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.159
less focused than the first film,
it still delivers the trademark humor, action,

898
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:35.920
and hearts of the franchise, and
it resulted in a largely fun family

899
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.639
film. I'm giving the movie three
and a half out of five stars for

900
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:43.800
ra and Tomatoes a fresh rating.
Yeah, I would agree with three and

901
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:46.199
a half stars. For me,
this film was about the same quality as

902
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:52.239
Amen at the Wass Quantum Mania,
which recently came out. Especially after discussing

903
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:55.320
this movie with you now three and
a half seems highly appropriate. I enjoyed

904
01:03:55.400 --> 01:03:59.280
the movie. I think the film
actually does a really good job of hiding

905
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:02.920
gets narrated, of inconsistency within everything
that it does well. Like you said,

906
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:06.519
the humor, the action, the
heart. It's all still there from

907
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:11.199
the first movie, just not as
well delivered. Right right, Well,

908
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.039
that does it for this review.
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909
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01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.840
would win in a fight between the
Flash Rogue Mirror Master and the Spider Man

921
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:10.559
villain the Spot, who is going
to be the main antagonist in the upcoming

922
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:15.000
Across the Spider Verse animated film.
Yeah, that's gonna be a super interesting

923
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:17.119
match. I have no idea how
that's going to play out, because the

924
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:21.800
guys can just basically go anywhere they
want almost. Yeah, it'll be interesting

925
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.840
looking forward to it. But that
does it for this episode. We want

926
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.960
to give a big thanks to our
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927
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:34.519
Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcolm, Mickey, Mathinian, Brandon Estorgard, Nathaniel Wagner,

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