Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Review - Special Guest Adam Speas

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Hi, Welcome to the Dynamic Dual
podcast, a weekly show where we review

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superhero films and debate the superiority between
Marvel and DC by comparing to their characters

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in stet based battle simulations. I'm
Johnny DC and in this episode, Marvelous

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Joe will not be in attendance.
He's spending time with his adorable newborn daughter

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Ella, taking care of her and
his wife, both of whom are doing

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great. So congrats to Joseph and
Arianna. Our family is super proud.

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Since JOSEPHO was unable to get out
and see the latest Marvel film to hit

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theaters, Spider Man the Spider Verse. I will be reviewing that later in

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this episode with my good friend Adam
Spees, probably most well known as the

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co host of the Blast from Our
Past podcast. There's no news breakdown this

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episode, but since Joseph's gone and
right now I could do whatever I want,

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I'm going to take this time to
remind all of you that tickets for

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the Flash are on sale. After
seeing Spider Man Across the Spider Verse,

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I gotta say the similarities between the
two films are a little disheartening and comparisons

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are going to be inevitable. But
the Flash is the better movie. And

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I know, I know all of
you right now are like, no,

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you're just saying the Flash is better
than Spider Verse because you're biased, to

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which I would say, Hey,
which one of us has actually seen both

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movies? Huh? Make sure you
get your Flash tickets, like right now,

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go ahead and pause this episode.
It won't hurt my feelings. It

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will hurt my feelings if the Flash
does not have a bigger opening weekend than

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across the Spider Verse. I've got
my tickets. All the cool kids do,

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even my kids. But speaking of
kids, mine Joseph's newborn. That

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gave the best answer to our question
of the Week. Last week we asked

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what is your favorite time traveling Marvel
or DC film or television show and why.

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We've got a number of answers,
so let me break down the honorable

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mentions before revealing this week's no Prize
winner. Our first honorable mention goes to

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Colby Hitches, who said, hey
boys, Colby Hinches, the best use

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of time travel in a Marvel or
DC film is Dermamu. I've come to

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bargain. Doctor Strange didn't try to
go change the past or fix anything from

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the future. He thought a foe
he knew he couldn't beat by holding him

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in a time loop, and that
holding him required her to die thousands of

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thousands of times, but he did
it. It was the most heroic and

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my favorite use of time travel.
Yeah, the time loop at the end

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of the first Doctor Strange movie was
definitely one of the more creative ways that

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a superhero has ever defeated a super
villain on screen. The fact that,

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like you mentioned, doctor Strange had
to die thousands of times and knowing that

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he was going to have to go
through that was a true act of heroism.

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So yeah, not a conventional use
of time travel. But a time

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loop is definitely a great example of
how it can be done in a unique

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way. Our next honorable mention goes
to Migge Matthanian, who said, Hey,

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what's up, guys. Is Maggie
and my favorite time traveling DC show

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is Young Justice phantoms because it was
a well crafted season with great story arcs

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that refocused on the core team.
It had good character development, and it

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dealt with larger themes and issues like
racial prejudice and mental health. The time

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travel aspect of the season was great
because it spoilers reimagine the Legion of Superheroes

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origin, introduced new characters and concepts
like Lori's Odd and Nurses Odd being the

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Emerald Empress, and Showcase Nightwing's detective
Skills. Young Justice is a fantastic DC

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animated series that really does a terrific
job of streamlining and reimagining some of DC's

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more convoluted continuity, the Legion of
Superheroes being amongst the most convoluted continuity of

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all DC properties. It's probably one
of the reasons why I haven't done too

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many dual episodes with those characters.
It's a shame that Young Justice has not

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been renewed for another season. If
you haven't seen it, if you're a

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DC fan and you enjoy those characters, I definitely recommend watching it. Even

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if you don't enjoy the characters,
the show is just really well made,

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So great answer, Maggie. Our
final honorable mention goes to Connor Pierce,

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who said, good day. My
favorite DC slash time travel movie is Justice

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League Dark Apocalypse War. The ending
shows Constancing Tane slips away and goes to

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the Flash, saying, you know
what you have to do, Mate,

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clear the board and start again,
which makes him start a new flash point,

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so he travels through time to very
set in the universe, And that's

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my favorite. The ending of Justice
League Dark Apocalypse War was so devastating and

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the fact that all of these characters
were just kind of sitting there and just

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waiting for the world to end.
When Constantine tells the Flash to basically reset

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everything so that they were all saved
from this. It was a very heartbreaking

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moment and definitely one that left the
audience moved. As you know, the

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screen faded to black. It was
not the ending I think anyone ever expected.

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I was very surprised by it,
and I think that's one of the

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reasons why it's one of the best
examples of time travel. Great answer,

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Connor Pierce, But the winner of
this week's no Prize is Christopher Manati,

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who said, my favorite time traveling
film is Flashpoint. There's not enough good

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things that I can say about this, but the big two points are how

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well it tells the story and how
well it shows off the differences between each

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character's lives. Especially with Flashpoint,
Batman and the Flash they all seem to

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have a big twist that in their
life that just makes it really interesting.

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Flashpoint was one of the most impactful
uses of time travel in Marvel and DC

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comics. It literally reset the DC
universe continuity, and the animated film adaptation

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was just incredible, getting to see
Thomas Wayne as Batman and all of the

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other character variations that make things like
time travel very exciting because of the twists

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that you get to see. It
was just loaded with fan service for fans

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of the comic storyline, and Yeah, I gotta agree, it's one of

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the best uses of time travel in
Marvel and DC's history. So congrats to

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Christopher Manati for winning this week's NO
Prize. If you the listener want to

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shot at winning your own no prize, make sure you visit our website and

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record your own answer to our question
of the Week. But now that all

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of that done, let's move on
to the main event of this episode,

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where I get atmospheres on the line
and we talk all about Spider Man Across

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the Spider Verse. All right.
Spider Man Across the Spider Verse is the

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latest film in Sony's animated Spider Verse
saga, and is the sequel to twenty

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eighteen Spider Man Into the Spider Verse, which woud critics with its groundbreaking style

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of animation that earned it the Academy
Award for Best Animated Film. Into the

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Spider Verse is regarded as one of
the best superhero movies of all time.

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So there are a lot of people
that have been looking forward to the sequel,

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including my good friend, former co
worker and podcaster extraordinaire Adam Spies,

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who's helping me review this film.
How's it go on? Get him?

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Hey, Jonathan, It is going
very good and even better now that I've

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seen this movie. Yeah, you're
the host of several podcasts, you know,

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Cartwright a Seinfeld podcast, Throw a
Back Trivia Takedown and of course Blast

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from our past podcast in which you
talk a lot about the movies of yesteryear,

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but you don't often record thoughts on
film still in theaters, right,

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correct, We've never talked about much
about theater movies. I mean it may

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be in passing, but we're not
doing a full breakdown of it. Yeah.

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No, So we rated Spider Man
Into the Spider Verse the first movie

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four and a half out of five
stars back in twenty eighteen when we reviewed

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it. Joseph gives me a crap
about that all the time, and I

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will should it's a five. It's
a five movie without quite five. Yeah,

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I will admit that. I think
it's one of several films that we've

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probably underrated on this podcast, like
Into the Spider Verse, Joker, my

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opinion, wonder Woman, But you
know i'd agree with all that. Well,

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what did you think of the first
movie? The first movie? Literally,

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I think the only thing left of
me in the movie theater or my

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socks because I got knocked out of
him baby. The visuals, the incorporation

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of music, everything about that movie
was phenomenal, and obviously the best part

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was something I had not really seen
before in one of like these comic book

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movies which was adapting from page to
screen. Nothing had done such a equal

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transfer of comic book to movie that
I've ever seen before. Maybe Scott Pilgrim

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Versed The World did a really good
job of that and some other ones.

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But the way it used visual space
to still kind of give you panels like

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a comic book does, it was
incredible. It's like nothing I'd actually seen

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throughout an entire movie. Yeah,
both of these films just in terms of

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the animation style, and nothing quite
has come close to seeing a comic book

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brought to life. Yeah, just
with the illustration style and even like the

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color misalignment and things like that.
The dynamic poses that you could do with

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these characters that you could never achieve
in live action, and the different angles

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that go with them. Spider Man
is rumored to be a very popular character

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for artists to draw because you could
just do so many things with that character

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that you can't do with anyone else. Really, like seeing Superman and a

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Spider Man pose just seems really weird, right, So Yeah, So what

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they're able to achieve here I think
is absolutely groundbreaking. You know, there

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are some who would say that Into
the Spider Verse is the best Spider Man

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movie, and well, I'm not
sure I agree. I definitely think Into

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the Spider Verse is better than Across
the Spider Verse, but only because Across

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the Spider Verse is half of a
story. Yeah, I agree with that.

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I've seen some reviews that compare this
film to Avengers Infinity War, The

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Empire Strikes Back, and The Dark
Knight, and I'm like, well,

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come down, people like that's a
bit much, and don't get me wrong,

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Like I liked Across the Spider Verse, and I'm definitely recommending people see

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it in movie theaters, especially before
listening to this spoiler review. The film

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is quite literally a work of arts
and probably the most ambitious animated film I've

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ever seen in terms of like the
various animation styles present within the film.

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Each world we visit in the movie
truly feels unique, like whether it's the

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amode of watercolor backgrounds of Gwen's universe
or the neon underglow of Earth forty two,

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it's all quite a sight to behold. Yeah, it takes visuals and

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the art of animation to an entire
another level on this one. Even even

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more so it pushes boundaries of what
you can optically suck in, you know,

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what you can actually like take visually
what your mind can interpret. Yes,

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and I appreciate how far with every
different universe that we went to,

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and every different character had so much
differences in their styles and you just had

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to follow along. You just had
to soak it all in. And it

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was a bit much at times that
was almost to its detriment. I will

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say there were times, especially with
some of Gwen scenes, where I was

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just like sensory overload, but I
was interested. I was in for it.

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This film doesn't seem quite to be
as commercial or as like easily accessible

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as the first one, just because
of the animation tricks that they do,

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like in Gwen's universe when they're constantly
shifting the background. I've seen stuff like

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that in anime, though I don't
watch a lot of anime, and I'm

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really curious to see how Western audience
is, especially young children, because you

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know it's an animated film, will
respond to that. Don't take someone with

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epilepsy, is what I'll say for
sure. For sure. Yeah, I

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mean the movie is doing gangbusters and
it's opening weekend box office. So far,

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so kudos to the filmmakers there.
Now I mentioned you the other films

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that people are comparing this one too. I can somewhat see how someone could

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compare it to the Dark Night because
of how highly influential the style of the

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film is on the genre. You
know, just take a look at how

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the latest Puss in Boots or teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles films look as evidence of

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that. But the reveal at the
end of this film, that twist that

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Miles is trapped in a universe without
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I'm sorry, like, nowhere near
as devastating as Thanosa's Snap or Luke Skywalker

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learning that the guy who just cut
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mean, is it just me,
like, is this my anti Marble bias

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that made this ending that everybody's talking
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But what I will say is the
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what people are making that connection to
some of those other movies. This is

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not as dramatic of an ending as
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honestly, those movies also had a
more proper ending to them, right,

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they actually ended, and you're like, oh my god, this story right

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here is done. We have to
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that next story here. It absolutely
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the story, and I didn't like
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knocks on the movie. It felt
a little bit almost like Walking Dead when

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Nigan had the baseball bet and you
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And that's when I stopped watching Walking
Dead because I was like, you

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know what, screw you. I
did not like this cliffhanger, but I

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will continue to watch the next Spider
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that's where the connections are. But
it didn't do the cliffhanger the way I

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wanted. It was a little bit
too abrupt, like I was literally edging

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my seat ready to see how's he
going to get out of this situation?

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And then it just ended. I
was like, are you kidding me?

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Are you Eppen kidding me? Right
now? I'm not done. I would

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sit for another two straight hours.
I want everything right now. I don't

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want to wait. Absolutely no.
I love binging, like long form content.

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I get ship all the time for
liking movies like The Batman and Sex

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and I's Justice League at this point, like, I don't mind just sitting

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on my couch bening six hours of
television on a Saturday when I got nothing

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else to do. When the Blanda's
mode and everything, I'm there for it.

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Yeah, I mean for those really
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you know, give me that ten
fifteen minutes, get my pea break

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and get some popcorn and I'll go
right back in or whatever, and I'm

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good to go. Or if you're
at home, you can pause in your

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set. I like long stories.
I want to have a full story told

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to me. We're all used to
binge culture now, where you can get

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everything at once. I don't want
to wait, damn it, another year

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for the next movie to come out, right, like an entire year.

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That's excessive. It feels like I
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shocked because they didn't know the film
was going to end with the cliffhanger,

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and maybe that's where the surprise is
coming from. But of course, like

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anyone who listens to this podcast knew
that this film, like the last two

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Harry Potter or Hobbit or Hunger Game
movies split the story in half so they

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could tell it over the course of
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I first learned that this film was
going to do that, because that usually

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means that they're going to like pad
the run time with useless side story to

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make the movie drag. But I
will say that while there was some pacing

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issues here, they were large originally
minimal, and it was really easy to

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get distracted by the gorgeous visuals to
really care about them. The movie was

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like two and a half hours long, like around there, but it didn't

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feel like that to me at all, which is nice. No, it

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was comfortable. I had no issues
sitting in watching the movie. I agree

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that there was maybe a little bit
of patting, particularly in Miles's storyline,

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like they kind of repeated beats where
it's just like, Okay, we get

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it, he's having trouble with his
parents and all this kind of stuff.

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We can move along. But you're
right, I was distracted by the visuals.

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I was just you know, jaw
dropped, like oh, melky and

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so I was a happy boy,
right, And like the slow parts in

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the beginning with like his family and
stuff. I felt like they also carried

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the brunt of the thematic weight of
this film, you know, those themes

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revolving around really two main themes here
there was the notions of longing and belonging,

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which I felt like are probably too
mature for younger audiences, which is

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another reason why I think like this
film isn't really for kids in a way.

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I think adults will definitely appreciate it
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and definitely tie in as a theme, I guess you would say with longing

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longing for a father figure. That
is something that Peter Parker deals with his

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entire story arc throughout of all the
comics. Is the father figures that he

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has the good ones they die on
him, and then the other father figures,

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He's got the doc Ox and the
Harry Osbourne's they're psycho killers. Like

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he's having these issues with father figures
and just all the good ones are dying

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off on him. And that's obviously
what is a big story arc, one

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of those nodes, if you will, one of those cannon events that every

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Spider Man has to deal with.
Yeah, the sense of loss and longing.

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Absolutely, Yeah, totally we learned
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anyone can be Spider Man, you
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and never give up. This film
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as Miles learns that he should not
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the leader of the Multiversal Watch group
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the Spider Society. In the movie, Miles's mom expressed to him that she

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was afraid of him going out into
a world that would make him feel that

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he didn't belong and while that was
exactly what happened to him, Miles refuses

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to accept that he shouldn't be Spider
Man as he proves himself capable of outmaneuvering

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all the rest of the multi versus
Spider Man and escaping them. Yeah,

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that twist, if you will.
It does cause some questions for me,

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just storytelling wise. Obviously, the
Spider from Universe forty two came into his

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dimension his universe and then bit him, So there was no Spider Man for

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forty two and then that's why Miles
became Prowler, Right, So if that

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Spider came into his universe, does
that not mean, there should be another

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Spider that bit a different person,
there should be a second Spider Man in

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his universe, or was he destined
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Which one is it? It writes
there's some story inconsistencies like that that I

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also noticed, Like if Kennon events
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why does Universe forty two even exist? Like if Spider Man wasn't able to

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exist inside of it, you know
sure? And like why did Myles get

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a glimpse of his father dying If
he's not really Spider Man, why would

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his captain father die at all?
Right? Exactly? I also wondered,

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like why these kindad events arbitrarily required
the death of a captain. You know,

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it's not like Captain America died in
the MCU. You know, we

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didn't see Captain Stacy Dye in the
Rainy films or a Captain Dye in the

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video game, or I'm assuming many
of the cartoons just felt so random to

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me in this movie, I was
just like left scratching my head, like

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okay, just kind of went along
with it. Yeah, I do theorize

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in the next movie we are going
to find out that Miguel O'Hara is wrong,

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that Myles Morales is the destined Spider
Man. He is tied in with

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being Spider Man. He is,
you know, just as worthy as any

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of the others, and kind of
anybody can be that Spider Man, and

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maybe this cannon event thing, at
least for him, doesn't mean shit,

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right. I'm definitely hoping some of
the discrepancies with this story are addressed in

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the sequel beyond the Spider Verse.
I don't know how many of them will

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be, but I hope at least
some of them are, and that'll be

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enough for me. One of the
reasons the first film I think is so

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beloved is because it's diverse cast of
characters made the film more relatable to a

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broader audience. And I think the
thematic need to belong rooted in this film

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is just as relatable, like the
fact that Miles overcame that need while recognizing

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his own self worth was also empowering, and I think is resonating amongst audiences

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just as much. Oh yeah,
wholeheartedly agree. I loved having that much

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diversity. I loved seeing so many
different characters in general, I mean,

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all different types anybody can be Spider
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literally every type of person is a
Spider Man or a Spider Woman, and

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so it's great to see that.
And it's also just adds to the fun.

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You know, if we get just
one type of Spider Man, all

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right, we don't want them all
to be the exact same. I loved

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seeing Mombatan and getting the Indian Spider
Man and all these and you know,

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all of our other friends back.
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and comics are else world stories where
we get these like interesting twists on characters

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that we know because you could do
things in those stories that you can't do

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in like the main cannon of the
main universe. So being able to see

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characters like Spider Man India on screen
is really cool. And just like the

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plethora of other Spider Man that they
seemingly had in the Spider Society, it

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was amazing just to see each one
like so well designed. It seemed like

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a lot of thought went to that. Oh yeah, and every Marvel and

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you know nineties Spider Man watching NERD
where because they that nineties cartoon really brought

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on the Spider Verse for us at
the kind of the last arc of that

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show. They basically did this with
Madam Webb, and like this, you

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saw all these other different ones,
different Spider Man's come together to kind of

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save the multiverse, and it just
felt like that again, honestly on a

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much bigger scale. And there was
just so many different cameos. I loved

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seeing all these different Spidermen, and
the vast majority I didn't even recognize,

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but the ones that I did,
I was just like, oh my god,

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yes, there's a Spider car and
all this other stuff is so good.

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Scarlet Spider, Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah. I love Ben Riley.

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What I fear audiences won't respond to
in this movie is like the comic

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book Jargon and Easter eggs loaded into
the film. I saw the film with

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my wife and daughters, and they
said they were lost for a majority of

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the movie, Like they didn't care
that Donald Glover made a cameo as a

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Prowler, or that the spot stumbles
upon the bodega lady from the Venom films.

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You know that and a bunch of
other random cameos and references were completely

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lost on them. And I feel
like, unless you see all of the

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movies and read all of the comics
and see all of the cartoons and play

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all the video games. There's really
too much crammed into the film to fully

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appreciate. I definitely feel like I
didn't capture everything just with this first viewing,

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and you know, I'm definitely curious
to see how much more I absorbed

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or upon subsequent viewings. Yeah,
I'm gonna be happy with other viewings.

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But you know, you can tell
your wife and daughter to shove it,

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because I enjoyed all those other cambios. I mean, it is nice.

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It's it's further proof. Yes,
we want all these movies to somehow interweave.

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And seeing you know, that quick
Donald Glover in there and seeing the

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Venom stuff, like, it's like, oh man, we are in this

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vast multiverse where all these crazy films
that were like, man do these connect?

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How do they connect? And they
do somehow, some weird, wild,

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wacky spider verse way you can get
from one of them to the other.

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And I thought that was great.
The Donald Glover moment was actually I

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think particularly important, just because Donald
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According to Miles Morales's creator, there
was a scene in Community, the

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television show where Donald Glover was wearing
a Spider Man outfit and wanted to be

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Spider Man. And so the writer
of the Ultimate Spider Man comics that created

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Miles Morales based off of that.
So to see it all come full circle

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where where Donald Glover gets to make
an appearance in a Spider Man film starring

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Miles morreless is pretty cool. Yeah, but I think that does it for

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like the overall thoughts. Let's move
on to the character breakdown, starting with

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Miles Morales. He's voiced by Shamik
Moore, and he does a fantastic job

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as Miles. Like not only does
he manage to make him both geeky and

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cool, but he captures the emotion
and humor of the character that you can't

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help a root for him. Yeah, he's extremely likable. He's just trying

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to balance this world. I mean, that's that's the life of Peter Parker,

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that's the life of Spider Man,
Miles, Miles, etc. Is

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the balance. Literally you cannot have
your cake and eat it too, And

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shown in the scenes where he's trying
to carry two cakes and this kind of

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stuff and they fall apart and you
know everything is all this stuff that he's

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doing falls apart. You can't juggle
everything exactly. That's true. That's true.

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That's definitely the life of Spider Man. Yeah. Yeah, his voice

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performance, it shines through. He
does a great job of I would say,

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emoting and connecting to the audience like
so much. So like I'm ready

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to see should make more replay the
character in live action. I think he

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would do a fantastic job. Yeah, I want to see him in more

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stuff live action period. I think, you know, I mean, he's

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a good looking dude. He can
definitely obviously act to some extent, even

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with his voice. So yeah,
I want to see him. I want

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to see him around. I saw
part of Dope. I didn see the

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whole thing, but from what I
saw, I thought he did a great

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job. It's time you need to
see him in the next MCU film.

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As Miles morales, I to do
it now. I mentioned. The themes

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of the film were longing and belonging, and Miles starts the film longing for

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his friends. At the end of
the first film, Peter p. Parker

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and Spider Gwen, his mentor and
love interest, respectively, leave Miles and

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return to their own universes, so
Miles is forced to deal with the hardships

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as Spider Man alone, and he
plans on studying the multiverse in college to

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someday make his way back to his
friends. That, of course, changes

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when Gwen returns and Miles decides to
follow her across the Spider while learning all

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about an exclusive society for Spider men
that he wants to be a part of.

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When he's shunned and hunted for wanting
to save his father and break the

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society's rules, he learns that he's
not a part of the society because he's

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an anomaly. The spider that bathham
and gave him powers came from another universe

404
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:25.000
Earth forty two. He's faced essentially
with the trolley problem moral experiment, and

405
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:30.240
chooses to save his father at the
risk of destroying his universe because he realizes

406
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.960
that the people he truly belongs with
are his family. And you would think

407
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:41.599
that the Spider people would have recognized
how villainous they were coming across as because

408
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.839
they were essentially trying to push Miles
to let his father just die, just

409
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.960
to let him be killed. It's
like, what kind of heroes are these

410
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.160
Spider people. I think they're a
little bit of sheep. I think they're

411
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.759
just kind of following a Spider Man
twenty ninety nine a little too much at

412
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:59.480
this point. Even though Jessica Drew
and Peter B. Parker and Gwen all

413
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.839
kind of followed him reluctantly, they
did hesitate for a bit. All the

414
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.039
other Spider Men are just kind of
lemmings. Yeah, I guess I was

415
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:10.640
most surprised that Gwen was kind of
playing along because she was so close two

416
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.440
Miles definitely seemed to have feelings for
him at the very least. Gwen was,

417
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.559
of course, played by Hailey Steinfeld. She does a good job.

418
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.319
She just has a great voice.
Hailey Steinfield can be in pretty much every

419
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.160
movie and I would not have a
problem with it. Yeah, she was

420
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.480
great as the new Hawk guy.
She's great as Spider Gwen. I loved

421
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:32.119
her and I loved how much more
we got from her and her story,

422
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.799
and she had great emotion in this
movie. The film starts with her.

423
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:40.839
Surprisingly enough. We definitely got to
see much more backstory for the character in

424
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.480
this film, and you know how
she accidentally killed her universes Peter Parker,

425
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.039
and how her father Captain Stacy tries
to arrest her for her even after he

426
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.000
learned Spider Girl as his daughter.
That was crazy. It's a it's a

427
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.680
rough and emotional backstory, and it's
easy to see how she relates to Miles's

428
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:03.160
feelings of abandonment, but also why
she's reluctant to reveal too much information to

429
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.599
him, because then she would get
kicked out of the society, you know,

430
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.440
and be forced to go back and
deal with her father. And you

431
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.680
know, she basically is forced to
do that exactly late in the film,

432
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.319
only to learn that her father grew
more compassionate in her absence. And you

433
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.759
know, after realizing that Miles never
made it back to his universe, she

434
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.160
assembles a team with Spider People to
go find him. And that's where we

435
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.599
leave the character at the end of
this film. Yeah, it's really nice

436
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:33.000
to see it again. Tying in
loss is a part of every Spider Man,

437
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.759
and yes, I understand Miles is
fighting against that, but I mean,

438
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:38.839
he already had loss, He had
his uncle, right, No,

439
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.440
we don't need to have him lose
his father too, damn it, Like

440
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.480
let him have a couple of people. But but yeah, I really enjoyed

441
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.599
seeing her story and seeing how she
had to cope with loss to become the

442
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.640
Spider Woman that she is today.
We haven't done a dual episode with Spider

443
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.640
Gwyn, but we need to.
Spider Man is such a unique character it's

444
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.920
always kind of a challenge to find
someone to pit him against. Of course,

445
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.200
we have done a duel with Spider
Man twenty ninety nine, a kag

446
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.079
O'Hara, who in this film was
voiced by Oscar Isaac. Oscar Isaac is

447
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:19.599
everywhere nowadays and seemingly won't stop until
he's performed as a character in every major

448
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.799
fandom universe that exists, everything from
Star Wars to X Men movies. Man,

449
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.279
he's making his way into so many
different like nerd. To me,

450
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.400
he's like the king of the Nerds
right now, right now. I guess

451
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.640
you could say that he's the villain
of the film, maybe since like the

452
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.559
film's climactic battle involves him, but
of course, you know, the central

453
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:43.680
conflict, the central threat still revolves
around the spots. I'd say the film

454
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.319
has a villain problem in that it
like loses focus on the main threats and

455
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:53.359
warps the Miguel O'Hara character into a
villain for the purposes of padding runtime.

456
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.200
Yeah, but in all honesty,
it does work. So maybe it's less

457
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.119
of a villain problem than it is
a villain. I don't know, hiccup,

458
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.440
Yeah, I would agree with that. To me, it kind of

459
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.759
felt like, all right, we're
establishing the Spot, he's kind of growing

460
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:13.839
and growing into his power, and
then they just kind of forgot about him

461
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.640
in the third act, right,
like the Spot just kind of stopped being

462
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.720
a problem. I'm like, wait
a minute, isn't he still a massing

463
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.960
power and causing these issues? And
then they just totally focused on Miles and

464
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.799
Miguel and all this kind of stuff, to where I was like, wait

465
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.759
a minute, what happened to the
spot exactly? It's like, isn't he

466
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.039
still a threat? Shouldn't you guys
be chasing him down? What's what's going

467
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:37.200
on? By the end of the
film, I wasn't quite sure like what

468
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.839
villain to be most worried about,
Like Miles already revealed he could handle himself

469
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.119
against Miguel, and it's not like
Miguel's team of Ben Riley and Jessica Drew

470
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.880
were threatening, you know, one
was an idiot and the other was pregnant.

471
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.519
So how did that make you feel? As a father? Would that

472
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.440
may do a little afraid for I
don't like the idea of it, Honestly,

473
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.279
I'm gonna be honest, I don't
know who the father was, but

474
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:00.920
if my wife was out there pregnant
finding crime, I'd be like, no,

475
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.640
let's let's keep you safe. You're
gonna trip and fall. That's not

476
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.199
gonna be good. I mean,
I know she's you know, enhanced as

477
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.880
a Spider Woman, but yeah,
it was a little interesting choice. And

478
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.639
similarly, I kind of thought Peter
B. Parker was a bad father in

479
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:21.719
this movie. Yeah, getting his
toddler daughter involved in super heroics a little

480
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.159
too early. Yeah, I do
like may Day Parker, though I think

481
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.159
she was a great Spider Girl in
the comics. I was glad to see

482
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.320
her banking appearance of sorts. I
am wondering if maybe and the sequel will

483
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.960
get to see like the adults fully
realized version of Spider Girl. Maybe not,

484
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.679
but the guy could hope. I'm
also looking forward to seeing how Miguel's

485
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.920
character changes in the next film,
Like it'll be cool to see them explore

486
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:51.159
more of his like Beast Jeal side
with like the Vampire Fangs when he invitably

487
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.639
joins Miles in the fight against Spot, and maybe the Parlor as well.

488
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.760
Yeah, exactly. I think I
think they're gonna have to appeal to his

489
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.559
fatherhood, like he's obviously again fatherhood
and father figures being a theme here with

490
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:07.360
Miguel and Peter B. Parker.
They want to be father so badly,

491
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.039
and Miguel wanted to be so badly
he was in another universe for that,

492
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.159
right. He caused issues with that, but obviously, you know, that's

493
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.880
also been part of his downfall that
I think he's definitely gonna make a turn.

494
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.719
He's gonna be one of our heroes
at some point in the next film.

495
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:23.400
Yeah, it'll be cool to see
all the Spider Man go up against,

496
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:25.920
you know, whatever threats. I
don't know if the Spot's gonna team

497
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.719
up with the Prowler or what's gonna
go on, but I know what,

498
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.360
it's gonna be awesome. Yes,
moving on to one of those threats,

499
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.360
The Spot aka Doctor Jonathan Own.
He was voiced by Jason Schwartzman, who

500
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.280
did a great job capturing, you
know, both the ridiculousness of the character

501
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.039
and The Menace as well. Yeah, he looked so awkward, but in

502
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.079
a perfect way. He kind of
had these long, linky legs, like

503
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.840
a squatty top half of his body. Yeah, just kind of the way

504
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.119
he stood was kind of awkward,
but it fit really well with Jason Schwartzman

505
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.440
and Spot as a ridiculous character.
In general, him as a villain I

506
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.599
thought worked really well. Now,
granted, did he go from I'm just

507
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.599
trying to steal some money from an
ATM to the end of the movie where

508
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.760
I'm going to kill you, Miles
and all your fucking family this kind of

509
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.480
stuff. It was a bit of
a not a stretch, but you saw

510
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.239
him ramp up pretty hard. Absolutely, Oh yeah, yeah, but I

511
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.760
was there for Yeah. I loved
it when he was like this, unfortunately

512
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.400
is my skin that you see?
And Myles was just like, yeah.

513
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:30.559
We learned in the movie that doctor
Owned worked at Alchemax and was responsible for

514
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:35.280
bringing over the DNA altered spider from
Earth forty two into Earth sixteen ten.

515
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.079
Though honestly, like why a spider
was brought through and their experiments is pretty

516
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:45.639
convenient of all things, and genetically
modified spider that spider of course bit Miles,

517
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.119
so Doctor Own essentially created Spider Man, but Myles also in turn created

518
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.239
the Spot when he caused the Alchemics
collider to explode at the end of the

519
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.880
first film. I thought that was
an interesting twist on the character of the

520
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:04.079
Spot that definitely leveled him up from
being a basic villain of the week type

521
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.760
of bad guy. Though I will
admit that even in his final form at

522
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.119
the end of the movie, when
he'd absorbed more interdimensional energy from across the

523
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.360
multiverse, it was still hard to
take a character who literally kicked his own

524
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:22.079
ass as a credible threat. Yeah. Well, he was just getting used

525
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.639
to his powers then, Okay,
but I see what you mean that.

526
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.280
It was just a hilarious scene.
I was laughing at a loud at that.

527
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.960
Yeah, yeah, it was good
real quick. When I mentioned Peter

528
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.599
B. Parker voiced by Jake Johnson, He's not as prevalent in this film

529
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.880
as he was in the first one, which is a shame because I thought

530
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.800
his humor and dynamic with Miles was
a large reason why that movie worked as

531
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.719
well as it did. Yeah,
he was nerfed a little bit in this

532
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:52.440
movie, and I get it.
They're focusing him on his fatherhood and you

533
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.960
know him with may Day. But
I do hope in the next movie I

534
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.960
want to see him not in a
robe like I want to see him in

535
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:06.840
Spider Man attire fully. Yeah,
maybe a baby Bjorn, yeah, but

536
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.880
no more robes. Yes, for
the brief amount of time he's in this

537
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.800
movie that I feel like it's really
to show off how cute his kid is.

538
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.159
He tries to tell Miles that he's
proud of him, but he doesn't

539
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.239
exactly support him because he keeps telling
him to essentially give up and turn himself

540
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.079
into the society. I kind of
wish he played a more active role in

541
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.079
helping Miles escape and have a York
or you know, helping Gwen find a

542
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.840
way to traverse the multiverse again,
but those roles were largely given to Spider

543
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.239
Bites and Spider Punk. Yes,
and that's what we would have seen from

544
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:45.119
the first movie, and you would
expect that as him equating his fatherhood with

545
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.840
Maydea too, how I need to
protect Miles, right, But he didn't

546
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.239
get there. Maybe in the next
movie. But you're right, because Spider

547
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.119
Punk, he was really kind of
the badass to help let Miles do what

548
00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.840
he needed to do to continue on
right exactly. Spider Punk Ahobie Brown.

549
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.880
He was voiced by Daniel Kaluya.
He was a great actor. Loved him

550
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:08.400
in Nope. He's fantastic. I'd
even recognized that it was his voice because

551
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.239
the British accent was just so heavy. It was kind of hard to understand

552
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.039
sometimes what he was saying. But
who'll heartily agree. Yeah, the character

553
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.840
was cool though. He was there
kind of to set up a love triangle

554
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.000
between you know, Miles and Gwen
and him, and I thought he was

555
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.800
a great foil for the character of
Miles. Just he was everything that Miles

556
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.199
almost wished he could be in a
way, someone who was you know,

557
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.480
admired by Gwen at the very least. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

558
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.320
enjoyed that love triangle. I loved
seeing Miles get so jealous to him.

559
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.039
Where Hobie he didn't give a crap
at anything. You know, he's Spiderpunk,

560
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:43.880
you know, And honestly, we
don't even know if anything happened to

561
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.000
them, like it may not have. She maybe she is just his drummer

562
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:50.639
and that's it, right, there's
no ties to anything. But you know,

563
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.320
they could have been they probably banged. It was described in the film

564
00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.360
that Spider Gwen is older than Miles. It wasn't sure if that the case

565
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.719
because in the first movie, like
they were in school together. But Jobie

566
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:08.719
Brown Spiderpunk was definitely like the most
featured alternate Spider Man character in the movie.

567
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.079
Of course, also had Jessica Drew
a case Spider Woman and Spider Man

568
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:19.800
India povy Tar prob put Car.
I totally butchered that we didn't really get

569
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.440
as much as I thought we would
out of Jessica Drew. She wasn't nearly

570
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:27.559
as involved or as impressive as I
thought she would be based off of,

571
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.880
you know, just the marketing for
the film. And Povyitar was was really

572
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:36.039
only in that scene where they went
to Mumbaten. I thought he would be

573
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.679
more prevalent as well, but not
so much. No, it was a

574
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.840
visually stunning scene though I really liked
how it looked, the Mumbatten scene,

575
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:50.519
and obviously it was the crutch of
Miles and Spider Gwen saving the sergeant or

576
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.000
whoever it was. Yeah, and
then that we're here, we're seeing the

577
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.280
issue that is cannon events needing to
stay cannon. But yeah, I agree

578
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.280
he was just and yeah, Jessica
Drew just kind of there. I will

579
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.239
say that kran Sony did a fantastic
job voicing Spider Man, and yet I

580
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.159
love him as Dopender in the Deadpool
films, and it's thought he totally pulled

581
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.360
off the comedy for this one as
well. Yeah, which just my little

582
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.920
side tangent here. That's also a
five, and you guys only gave it

583
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.599
a four the first The first movie
is a five, all right, the

584
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.960
second movie is a four point five, But I don't understand why you wouldn't

585
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.360
give Deadpool one of five. Just
thrown that out there, and I was

586
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.000
pretty bitter. That does it for
the character breakdown. Let's move on to

587
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.119
this story highlights. On Earth sixty
five, sixteen months after the destruction of

588
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.639
the Alchemics Collider, Gwen Stacy is
struggling to live up to the expectations of

589
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:44.599
her policeman father, who does not
know that she is Spider Woman. Years

590
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.000
prior, Gwen accidentally killed her best
friend Peter Parker while he was mindlessly rampaging

591
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.000
as the Lizard, and the police
had been hunting her ever since. One

592
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:57.119
night, Gwen goes to the Googenheim
Museum in Manhattan after hearing reports of an

593
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.159
intruder, only to run into a
version of the Vulture that comes from a

594
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.840
Renaissance themed alternate universe, although I'm
not quite sure how he ended up in

595
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.599
hers. The Spider People, Miguel
O'Hara and Jessica Drew arrived using portal generating

596
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:15.360
watches and help Gwen subdue the Vulture. Gwen is confronted on the scene by

597
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.519
her father and reveals her identity to
him. He of course gets distraught at

598
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.719
this revelation, but still attempts to
arrest her. She escapes through a dimensional

599
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:29.480
portal with the others after O'Hara begrudgingly
grants her membership to the Spider Society.

600
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.639
I did think the Vulture here was
really cool, just the design of him.

601
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.039
I wanted to see more of that, like da Vinci esque world.

602
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.280
Yeah, that was very fun,
I mean very interesting that you saw immediately

603
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.239
in their different universes. How the
artistic styles are going to be so farther

604
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:52.760
than they were obviously in the first
movie, because everyone came into sixteen ten

605
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.800
and they all looked pretty normal.
But now they're taking it to the nth

606
00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.840
degree, and I thought it was
kind of fun. He talked, We

607
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.320
you know, it is a little
older like Italian style, and it was

608
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.800
very fun. Yeah, I mean
I again, I loved the animation style

609
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.039
in the first movie. Highly influential. Of course, I didn't know what

610
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.440
to expect for this film in terms
of how they would ramp it up,

611
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.000
but they absolutely did, and it
was really cool that they were able to

612
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.559
do that. Like everything from Lego
World to this Da Vinci kind of Renaissance

613
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.800
style, it was all really well
realized. Can't stress that enough. I've

614
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.199
said it a few times, but
yeah, they did a good job.

615
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.800
In Brooklyn on Earth sixteen, ten
Miles Morales is adapting to being Spider Man

616
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.519
well, missing Gwen, and struggling
to live up to his parents expectations.

617
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:43.360
While heading to a parent teacher evaluation, he encounters The Spot, a scientist

618
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.960
whose body was infused with portals after
the Alchemics collider explosion. Blaming Miles for

619
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.360
his dilemma. The Spot brings Miles
two Alchemax, where he then accidentally transports

620
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.360
himself into a void, where he
learned to travel to other universes that contained

621
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.039
the Alchemis collider, so he can
use them to empower himself further. Man,

622
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.119
I guess can't get over how fun
he was. Their first interaction felt

623
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.679
like a comic book interaction. I
mean it felt like the Spider Man just

624
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.599
messing with these villains of the week. Like they set that up in a

625
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:21.679
kind of a perfect feel for Spider
Man. Totally. Yeah, their banter

626
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.840
made it definitely feel like this is
just a goofy kind of villain that Spider

627
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.000
Man was going to dispatch fairly easily. But of course that goes horribly awry

628
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.159
once Spot learns how to travel to
their dimensions, once he kicked his own

629
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.079
ass. Yeah, still a great
scene. Gwen travels to Earth sixteen ten

630
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:43.840
and reconnects with Miles, though she
is secretly tracking the Spot across dimensions.

631
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:50.039
Miles secretly watches Gwen trace the villain, after which Drew Spider Woman, instructs

632
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.639
Gwen to leave Miles behind. Gwen
opens a portal which Miles follows through to

633
00:44:53.840 --> 00:45:00.440
Moonbatten on Earth fifty one oh one. Then Chapter Spider Man, pivytar Abacar,

634
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.760
and Hbie Brown before confronting the Spot, who successfully absorbs the power of

635
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:10.719
that world's collider. Having done the
same thing across several other universes prior slowly

636
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.840
growing in power. Miles is struck
with a vision of his father dying at

637
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.840
the hands of the Spot before the
Spot escapes, and again that vision thing

638
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.239
still throws me. I'm not sure
why that happened. Very convenient. Yeah,

639
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.760
as we've said before, it's a
bit confusing, you know. Miguel

640
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:35.320
is so certain that he is an
anomaly, but he has every other thing

641
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:43.480
that screams he is Spider Man,
so exactly. In the ensuing destruction of

642
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:47.440
the collider, Miles saves a police
captain, the father of Pabacar's girlfriend.

643
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.599
However, Mubatan then begins falling.
Apart from the disruption of a cannon event,

644
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:58.400
members of the Spider Society arrived to
assess the damage of the dimensional anomaly,

645
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.199
while Miles, Gwen, Prabacar,
and Brown are sent to their headquarters

646
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.119
on Earth nine twenty eight, where
hundreds of Spider Man variants reside in a

647
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.719
massive complex. They meet up with
O'Hara and are joined by Peter B.

648
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:17.400
Parker and his daughter may Day.
O'Hara explains how each Spider Man's story contains

649
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.840
quote unquote cannon events such as the
death of a police captain, and the

650
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.920
strength from those events threatens the fabric
of the multiverse. Yeah, no other

651
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.840
movie has done such a good job
of tying in the multiverse, I think

652
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.360
as much as even this one.
I mean, they give you the visuals

653
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.119
of like what you saw in Loki
of the Branches and all this kind of

654
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.800
stuff. Yeah. I am kind
of curious though, like with all these

655
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:50.119
different multiverse police forces, between the
Spider Society and the TVA, you know,

656
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.400
do they not collide? Do they
all have like the exact same goal.

657
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.119
Actually, the other ones don't because
they are about pruning, and when

658
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.960
they pruned everything, was there just
one Spider Man or was there still the

659
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:04.760
multiverse going on? I don't really
know, but it's a little bit wacky.

660
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.760
But I do think this one did
a better job of helping explain and

661
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:14.480
showing the Spider Verse stuff in just
the overall multiverse stuff, way better than

662
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.519
even Multiverse of Madness. I liked
Multiverse of Madness, thank you. I

663
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.400
think people didn't care for it,
but I like Sam Raimi's style, so

664
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.199
I'm a big fan. But this
one, I thought did a really good

665
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.280
job of kind of explaining how these
nodes work, which we saw if you

666
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.280
watched What If, like these kind
of cannon events, kind of the death

667
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.519
of his girlfriend, Rachel McAdams's character. That's true, so similar kind of

668
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.800
stuff. Like it's actually tying in
all that other stuff. Really well,

669
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.639
I guess technically all of these Spider
Man would not exist if it weren't for

670
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:51.800
the girl Loki at the end of
the Lokey TV Show killing the version of

671
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.599
King. Yeah. I mean,
I guess these other multiverses spread out,

672
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.679
but they just moved so quickly and
all this other kind of stuff. So

673
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.000
it's fine, Yeah, cool with
it. I definitely think that Across the

674
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:06.199
Spider Verse is Marvel's best multiverse movie. I'll agree with that, at least

675
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.559
until you know, like maybe Deadpool
three comes out and yeah, he gets

676
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:13.039
to traverse the multiverse. Then that's
how they're going to end the multiverse stuff.

677
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.199
Deadpool kills the MCU multiverse, that's
that. Why not? It's comic

678
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.079
cannon. They could do it.
Yeah, he can do whatever. Now,

679
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:24.280
Miles realizes that his father's death is
a cannon event. He argues with

680
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:30.079
O'Hara, who imprisons him. Brown
helps Miles break loose, then uses a

681
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.159
portal to escape the society. O'Hara
orders all of the Spider People to apprehend

682
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.800
Miles, resulting in a long chase
through the complex. O'Hara eventually pains Miles

683
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.599
down and tells him that he was
never supposed to become Spider Man, as

684
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.719
the Spider that bit him came from
another universe, making Miles the original anomaly

685
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.440
and leaving that world with no Spider
Man. Miles flees, and with the

686
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:59.719
help of Spider Bites Margot Kess,
returns to what he believes is his home.

687
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.400
To mention. Now, it is
kind of curious because he's got this

688
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.519
universe forty two signature on him.
That's why the big mechanical Spider sent him

689
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.239
there, right, But he can't
exist in that universe because he's glitching out.

690
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:15.000
But he's got that blood in him, if you will, He's got

691
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.159
that something. So it's just kind
of interesting. Yeah, that is weird.

692
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.719
If the Spider felt that he belonged
in the universe, why doesn't the

693
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.360
universe feel like he belongs there?
I guess, although I just realized how

694
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.800
he gets out of the freaking chains
he glitches out of him. Yeah,

695
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.320
that's it. Yeah, I figured
it out. I think Spider Bite she

696
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.159
like you see, literally like they
almost flirt like at one time, or

697
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.639
something is going on between the two
of them, and then she's all of

698
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.119
a sudden like, Okay, I'm
gonna help you get out of here.

699
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:46.119
Like it was like okay, wow, I mean, yeah, I get

700
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.039
it. She wanted her some miles. I wonder if she knew that he

701
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.599
was going to the wrong universe,
because like she kind of gave him a

702
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.480
look. Initially, you know,
I assumed that, yeah, she was

703
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.719
just like was longing for him and
wanted to help him or something like that.

704
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.079
But now in high insight, I'm
wondering if she was like, wait,

705
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.599
why is he going to this universe
as opposed to this one. I'm

706
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.159
not quite sure. Yeah, now
I remember seeing that it sent him to

707
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.920
universe forty two. I remember I
saw it in my head. I was

708
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.599
like, okay, forty two,
and I knew that he was from sixteen

709
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.920
ten. But for some reason in
my head, I didn't make that connection

710
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:21.719
like, oh, they're sending him
to the wrong universe. But it felt

711
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:25.280
like the twist was still solid and
they still did a good job for me.

712
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.920
When he realized he was not in
the right one. It was still

713
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.679
a twist for me. I didn't
even catch the whole him going to Earth

714
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.960
forty two things. Seeing Gwen as
a liability, O'Hara kicks her out of

715
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.679
the Spider Society and sends her back
to her universe. Gwen reconciles with her

716
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.480
father, who has decided to resign
as police captain. Gwen decides to eight

717
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:51.079
Miles, leaving Earth sixty five with
a bootleg portal watch Brown left with her

718
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.400
father for her, and she's going
to go out and find Miles with this

719
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.320
ragtag team with Spider People. As
Miles arrives back in his apartment, he

720
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.360
reveals to his mother that he is
Spider Man, whom she doesn't recognize.

721
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.840
After encountering his deceased uncle, Aaron
Davis and learning that his father has already

722
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.559
died, Miles realizes that he is
on Earth forty two, the homeworld of

723
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.199
the spider that bit him. Aaron
interrogates Miles and is soon joined by the

724
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:22.119
Miles of Earth forty two, who
has become the Prowler. O'Hara, Drew,

725
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.480
and Ben Riley travel to Earth sixteen
ten in search of Miles just as

726
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.400
the Spot arrives and begins to attack, And that's pretty much how the film

727
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:37.039
ends with this, like Kaiju version
of the Spot getting ready to attack Manhattan

728
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.679
and Scarlet Spider and Spider Man twenty
ninety nine and Spider Woman on the hunt

729
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.639
for Miles in his universe. Meanwhile, Miles is an Earth forty two captured

730
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:52.960
by the alternate version of him,
the Prowler, while Gwen is going to

731
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.800
go out and search four Miles with
you know, Spider Man Noir and Spider

732
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.960
Pig and Penny Parker who are rejoining
the team, which is gonna be nice

733
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:05.239
to see because it missed me some
Spider hand. Yeah, I missed me

734
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:08.119
some Spider Man Noir Like Nick Cage
did such a great job with that one.

735
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.480
I was kind of hoping we at
least get like one line from each

736
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:13.800
of them at the end, like, you know, let's do this or

737
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.719
something. Unfortunately you can get it, but we'll obviously get them in the

738
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:19.719
next movie. I think we did
get a line from Penny Parker, although

739
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:21.559
I can't remember we did. No, we did, You're right, we

740
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:22.559
got one from Penny, but she's
like my least favorite. Yeah, she

741
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.679
doesn't count again. It was a
major cliffhanger. I wish there was a

742
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.480
little bit more story, but I
guess, you know, what we got

743
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.320
is what we got, and it
was good. I know, I harp

744
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.880
on the film and I nitpick on
it, but I did really enjoy it.

745
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.880
I thought it was a very worthwhile
successor to the first film. It's

746
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.239
a cinematic work of art, you
know, boasting both style and substance,

747
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:51.599
with its kinetic boundary pushing animation and
you know, weighty dramatic themes of longing

748
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.960
and belonging. I think Marvel fans
should be very proud of this movie,

749
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.159
and I think it's definitely one of
the best Spider Man films for sure.

750
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.480
I'm giving get the same rating that
we gave the first film four and a

751
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.280
half stars. Of course, the
first film probably should have been five.

752
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.800
I'm only knocking it because it did
have some you know, pacing issues,

753
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:15.199
did have a villain problem, was
really only half a story. So yeah,

754
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.199
it's still a frestrating though. On
RhD Tomatoes. Yeah, I agree

755
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.400
with everything that you just said right
there. The film what it does,

756
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:29.719
it does extremely well, Like the
visuals are cranked up to eleven for this

757
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:35.159
film, and I couldn't help but
be absorbed by the impressive work that all

758
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.079
the animators did on this all of
the different styles. I loved it.

759
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:42.320
Yeah, it got even a little
too much at times, but that didn't

760
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:46.440
detract for the masterpiece of the visual
beauty that was brought into this movie.

761
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:52.239
I would probably be a person that
says into the Spider Verse is the best

762
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.400
Spider Man movie. I would call
it a five. And I mean I

763
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:59.679
would still also call probably Spider Man
two a five ye for me, but

764
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:01.960
that when I think edges it out, and I think by the end of

765
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:08.519
the Spider Verse trilogy, it will
unquestionably be the best Spider Man trilogy.

766
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:12.800
Really, like, because a lot
of people like No Way Home. I

767
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.119
like no Way Home. I'd say
this movie is on par with No Way

768
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.840
Home. Yeah, I mean like
this film of course had Andrew Garfield and

769
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.199
Toby McGuire in it as well,
just like No Way Home, as long

770
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.840
as a ton of other cameos,
which is always great to see as a

771
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.760
comic book fan. I definitely think
once this like trilogy, if it's a

772
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.960
trilogy, saga is over. I
think it'll definitely be hailed as one of

773
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.639
the most groundbreaking trilogies in superhero cinema
ever, absolutely no question. Yeah,

774
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:44.599
but because of those little knoxes you've
already kind of called out, I don't

775
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.760
need to repeat too much, but
it's basically what happened to the villain at

776
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:51.639
some point, like who is the
villain at some point? And also half

777
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:53.519
the story like I just wanted it
all, damn it. I was ready

778
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:57.400
to sit there for so much longer, like the cliffhanger I didn't care for.

779
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.119
But because Spider Man into this I
ever should have been a five.

780
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:05.159
I would call this one a four
point five. Yeah, Jose's going to

781
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.840
be proud that I didn't write this
film a four, which I was originally

782
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.039
thinking it was going to be.
But you know, after going through all

783
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.280
my notes and writing up my review
and stuff like that, I definitely think

784
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.039
it's better than that. It's a
four point five for sure. I mean,

785
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.239
great emotion, great storytelling still,
and that's that's the heart of any

786
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.119
movie that you want to come out
of it, and you were craving more

787
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:28.039
like that's fantastic storytelling right there,
exactly. Yeah, and definitely the sign

788
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.039
of a good sequel. I have
no idea when the next movie is coming

789
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.320
out, neither do why. I
hope it's just within a year. I

790
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.559
don't want to wait another five years, you know. I would expect that

791
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.639
they're obviously working on it and it
should be hopefully ready in twenty twenty four.

792
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.519
Yeah, it looks like it's March
twenty ninth, twenty twenty four.

793
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.360
Okay, that's all right, that's
a year away, damn it, practically

794
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:52.360
whatever. But I guess, you
know, we have plenty of other superhero

795
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.840
media to hold us over, including
The Flash in a few weeks, which

796
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.760
I'm going to get a head out
and say that the compare since between these

797
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:06.360
two films are going to be inevitable. Chris Miller and Phil Lord both worked

798
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.480
on these movies, and they both
have very similar plot points to them.

799
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.199
I do think that people are going
to respond to this movie better, just

800
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:19.559
because I think a lot of people
have already made up their mind about Ezra

801
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.800
Miller. Yeah, well it's hard
not to. I mean, the guy

802
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:28.400
is a tool bag. He's a
whole bag of tools, and you get

803
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.000
double the Ezra Miller. And who
wants that the movie is not bad?

804
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.639
I've seen I'm sure. Yeah,
yeah, I'm sure it's going to I'm

805
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:37.840
definitely curious to hear what you think
of it once you see. How you

806
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.239
planning on seeing it in theaters?
Oh yeah, I mean my nostalgia for

807
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a Michael Keakan Batman is absolutely high
enough to go see that film, so

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I'll be there. Good. All
right. Well, it's honestly like another

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Olympus has fallen, white House down, Army get in deep impact kind of

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situation. It's kind of bizarre,
and I really kind of regret watching the

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Flash prior to seeing Across the Spider
Verse. But we'll talk all about that

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in our Flash review in two weeks. Thanks Adam for coming on board and

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helping me review this film with Joseph's
absence. Cannot think of a better co

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host for this film. I know
you love film, and I know you

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love Marvel. Unfortunately, not gonna
hold that against you though. You were

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a great, great co host,
so appreciated. Thank you very much for

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having me. I really do enjoy
every time I've been on. If anybody

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doesn't remember my voice, last time
I was on the show, I had

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COVID and I was like, really
scratchy, and you didn't understand this.

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This is how I actually sound,
and I hope I sound a little bit

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better for y'all, So I hope
you liked it. Yeah, we finally

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got you on for like a good
film, because in the past it was

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always just like, oh those are
you? Just love to rag on.

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I do want to plug just in
case anybody hasn't gone to the blasphemo Ore

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past and listened to the episodes that
you and Joseph have been on. You've

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both been on multiple episodes, yes, but in particular you guys have to

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check out the first time we had
you guys on, we talked Batman the

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animated series and the X Men animated
series together, and then we did some

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00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.880
fun castings as well. That was
one of our best episodes still to date,

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I would have to say, but
we had a lot of fun with

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you coming on for Batman and Joseph
coming on for Howard the Duck. It's

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00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.880
always a pleasure when Dynamic Duel and
blashmore Past get together. Yeah, always

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00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:21.880
good times. Definitely check out those
episodes. Also check out Adam's other podcasts,

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car writ a Seinfeld podcast, and
of course the Throwback Trivia Takedown.

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You will not be disappointed. I
give you my Johnny DC guarantee. Wow,

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that doesn't mean much because you're a
DC fan out What the heck?

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All right? Having any of that
here now when I'm in charge of this

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episode, that does it for this
review. Let us know what you thought

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about the movie by writing to us
at Dynamic Dual podcast at gmail dot com,

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or by visiting us on Instagram or
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all of our accounts by checking out
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Duel dot com. On our site, you could also find a link to

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rate the show on Apple Podcasts,
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In our next episode, which is
book ended by films that involve the

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Multiverse, both Spider Man Across the
Spider Verse and The Flash. We've decided

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to do a multiversal duel sort of
similar to what we did last year with

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a few of our episodes like Batman
Beyond and Spiderman twenty ninety nine or The

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00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:53.320
Batman Who Laughs against Cosmic Ghostwriter.
Next week, we're gonna find out who's

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going to win in a duel between
Kingdom Comes Superman and Maestro the Older Evil

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01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.000
Hulk. So look forward to that. I think it's gonna be a lot

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of fun. Joseph should be back, so I guess also look forward to

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that. I'm not really but that
does a for this episode. We want

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to give a big thanks to our
executive producers Ken Johnson, John Starovski,

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01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:21.079
Zachary Hepburn, Dustin, Belcolm Mackey, math and Gian Brandon Estergard, Nathaniel

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01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:27.800
Wagner, Leva Yaton, Nika Bonto, Austin Wizilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott

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01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.760
Camacho, Adam Spees, and Zach
Wilder for making this podcast possible. And

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we'll talk to you guys next week. A up and Away True Believers