Titans Season 4 Review

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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic
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we're going to review Titans season four.

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The series just had its conclusion on
HBO Max a couple of weeks ago,

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and it was you know, we'll
talk about it soon enough. I don't

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want to give anything away. Before
we get into the review. We're going

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to go over the comic book movie
news to come out this past week,

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including a look at some set photos
revealed from the Captain America New World Order

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set and released it announcements for the
Disney Plus shows Echo and Low Key season

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out of the way, quick to
the no Prize. A no Prize is

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an award Marvel used to give out
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Dual NO Prize is a digital award
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email newsletter for the person that we
feel gave the best answer to our question

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of the week. Yeah, we
asked this question two weeks ago. We

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asked what is your favorite line from
a character into Marvel or DC film and

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why. We got a ton of
answers, more answers than we've gotten a

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while, so it was really really
difficult to choose from among those of you

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who called in, but we did
our best. So let's go ahead and

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go over the honorable mentions as well
as the no Prize winner. Our first

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honorable mention goes to Christopher Manati,
who said, Hi guys, Christopher Manati,

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My favorite line from a Marvel or
DC film is when Charles Xavier says,

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just because someone stumbles and loses their
past doesn't mean they're lost forever.

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This within x Men Days of Future
Past, and I love this because it

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feels very relatable. I feel like
we've all had moments where we kind of

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lose side of who we are,
either physically or emotionally or whatever, and

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so this felt very relatable. Yeah. I thought it was a great lesson,

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a great moment in a great film
where Charles Xavier basically says, even

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though you lose your way on the
path, doesn't mean that you're lost forever.

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Yeah, we can all relate to
that in our journeys growing up and

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stuff. But I think that moment
was notable in being that it was like

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the first time we got to see
two multiversal characters come face to face for

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the first time. Yeah, Patrick
Stewart and James McAvoy, who both played

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Professor X. Great moment, great
line, great film, great answer.

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We also want to give a shout
out to Bobby Kirby, who coincidentally gave

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the exact same answer, so it
looks like it touched quite a few people.

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Our next honorable mention goes to Travis
Bailey, who said, Travis Bailey,

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look, you know, I've read
Marvel over here. I could have

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winned my main blade from that first
movie. Definitely could have win with kill

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Manger. He got bars, you
know start. Yeah, I know how

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I feel about Lady Tanaka. If
I'm being real with y'all, it's gotta

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be Bay. I mean I quote
that man to this day today, like

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when he told Bruce, who merely
adopted the darkness, I was burning it

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by the time I saw too was
merely blinding. I think it was David

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Goyer and Christopher Nolan that wrote the
script to The Dark Knight Rises, and

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a lot of Bain's dialogue as Goofy, as his voice was, was pretty

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fucking metal. I thought, I
mean, you could say goofy, you

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could also say intimidating. No,
no, no. He sounded like super

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Mario. You know, he could
have given Chris Pratt run for his money.

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Jeezus. I mean, whether you
liked his voice or not, or

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I thought it was goofy or didn't, Travis Bailey is right, those lines

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were incredible. Jonathan Nolan, I
think, was also a writer on that

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film, so I'm not sure which
writers attributed to his lines, but those

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lines were hella dark. Yeah.
Thanks Travis Bailey for the answer. Our

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next honorable mention goes to Lizzie Dyer
Arney, who said, Hey, it's

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Lizzie, don't do anything I would
do, and definitely don't do anything I

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wouldn't do. This line was spoken
by Tony Stark in Spider Man Homecoming when

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he was giving Peter advice on how
to be a superhero. And this is

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exactly what I used to tell new
employees when I was training them at my

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job. I say, it sums
up my personality perfectly, and this is

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probably why it's my favorite line,
and the line I believe was also improvised

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by Robert Denny Jr. Yeah,
he comes up with all the best lines

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for Tony Stark, for sure.
It was just a great bit of comedic

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relief during that character building scene.
It was like peak Tony Stark marketing back

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to those great one liners we got
from the first Ironman film. Yeah,

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along with the reach over where Peter
Parker thought he was giving him a huge

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he was like, no, I'm
just grabbing the door handle. Go on,

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We're not there yet. Yeah.
In the cinematic universe full of great

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Tony Stark one liners, that land
is definitely one of the best. Great

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answer, Lizzie, we want to
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winner of this week's no Prize is
Ken Johnson, who said he yus Ken

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for My great line is Jorell's speech
to Calvo. I know shocking, right,

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they can be a great people,
Calo. They wish to be the

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only lack the light to show them
the way. Yes. Specifically, this

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is a line from Marlon Brando's Jorrel
in the Richard Donner's Superman film, Classic

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movie, great movie, written by
Mario Puzzo who wrote the Godfather movies.

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Right. Yeah, all of Jarrell's
dialogue in that film is tremendous. It's

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fantastic. The Krypton scenes are some
of my favorite scenes in that movie because

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of Jorell and because of his lines. It has this like quasi spiritual aspect

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to it that make them resonate and
make them transcendent. Yeah. And the

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line is like a great summary of
Superman's motivation as a hero. He's not

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only just trying to save humanity,
he's trying to inspire them exactly. Yes,

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perfect answer, Ken Johnson, you
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the week. And now that that's
done to the news, all right.

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This past week, we got a
look at some set photos that were leaked

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of the Captain America New World Order
production and and then we got quite a

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number of reveals. We got a
look at Tim Blake Nelson as Samuel Stearns,

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aka the Leader, who is likely
going to be the big bad guy

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of this film, returning over a
decade after his debut in the Incredible Hulk

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film in two thousand and eight.
We didn't get to like see his leader

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suit or anything like that. He
looked just like Tim Blake Nelson, but

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I assume that he will be transforming
into the Leader as we know him from

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the comics, you know, like
Green with the big brain, right right.

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I mean from the set photos that
does look like he has like green

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four arms. And I'm not sure
if that's like the extent of his look

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as the Leader or if they'll like
evolve over time. Well, I don't

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know for but I should say it
better not be. It better not fucking

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be. We gotta see the Leader. We got to see his Hulk brain.

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We also got to look at Harrison
Ford as President Thaddeus Ross. We're

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not sure if he's going to show
up as the Red Hulk in this film,

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but I think you know, there
would be missed opportunity if they don't

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have him hulk out. We also
got to look at Danny Ramirez who is

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playing Joaquin Torres. He was also
in the Falcon at the Winter Soldier television

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series and he is the new Falcon. In the comic books, when Sam

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Wilson became the new Captain America,
there was a new Falcon named Joaquin Torres

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who was his sidekick, and it
looks like that's going to be the case

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in this film as well. The
suit looks fairly accurate to the comic books,

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although we don't quite get a great
look at it from these set photos,

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but it's nice to get the confirmation
that Joaquin Tores will be suiting up

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as the next Falcon. Yeah,
we also got a look at the new

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Captain in America suit, which is
going to be warned by the character of

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Sam Wilson. Yeah, it's a
lot more blue than his initial suit that

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we saw in Captain America and the
Winter Soldier, which is kind of a

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shame, Like I really liked that
suit that the will Condons had designed for

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him at the end of that season. This new one is definitely different.

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It kind of reminds me of the
stealth suit that Captain America Steve Rogers was

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wearing in the Winter Soldier film,
right, it's like dark blue. Yeah,

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I'll be interested in seeing what it
looks like and it's totality because we

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only get like a vague, blurry
shot of it from these set photos.

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But I trust Marvel when it comes
to their costume designs. You know,

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they've never really let me down too
much. Sim Wilson's Captain America outfit at

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the end of The Falcon and the
Winter Soldier was fairly white, and you

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don't get to see a lot of
white on superhero costumes. So yeah,

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I will definitely miss that. They
have to be put through the laundry too

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much. You know, they get
stained too easy when they're white. That's

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fair. There was also some set
photos of a funeral scene in which we

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got to see liv Tyler as Betty
Ross. Again, that was pretty cool,

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and we also got to see Shira
hass as the Israeli superhero Sabra,

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granted she's not in her superhero costume
either. A lot of the film looks

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to be fairly grounded in the same
vein of like Captain America, the Winter

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Soldier and the Falcon and the Winter
Soldier television series, which is a tone

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that I absolutely love for these MCU
films, so I'm not surprised that we're

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not seeing too many of their colorful
superhero outfits just yet. I do hope

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that Marvel releases official stills of them
in their costumes before we get too many

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more leaks, though, Yeah,
official stills are always better than blurry set

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photos from behind where the actors like
standing behind a car or something. In

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the latest patch of set photos,
we got a good look at two characters

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from the Serpent Society, one of
them played by seth Rawlins, who is

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a WWE wrestler, and another lady
who appears to be Diamondback because she's wearing

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this like diamond shaped pendant. I
had no idea that the Serpent Society was

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going to be in this film.
It looks like they're going to be mercenaries

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hired by the leader or something like
that. It's pretty cool to see them,

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though. It looks like perhaps part
of this movie is going to take

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a cue from the Serpent Solutions arc
from the Captain America comic books. You're

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actually regarding the Serpent Society, It's
rumored that Captain America New World Order is

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going to get a title change,
possibly either to Captain America Serpent Society or

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Captain America World War Hulk. Yeah. I wouldn't mind either of those names.

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I think World War Hulk would get
me the most excited, But there's

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no way that the storyline would be
close to the World War Hulk storyline.

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I guess, in the same way
that the Thor Ragnarak movie wasn't close to

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the Ragnarak storyline from the comics.
It's like they're just borrowing comic book storyline

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titles and applying them to different stories. Yeah, we'll see what happens,

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though. I do like both of
those names more than New World Order though.

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But speaking of all the different characters
that we see in this film,

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that brings us to our question of
the week, what character are you most

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excited to see in Captain America,
New World Order and why you know we

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have the Leader, possibly Red Hulk, Captain America, the Falcon, Serpent

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Society, Betty Ross, a whole
bunch of them, and maybe a few

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before May twenty seventh. In other
Marvel news, this past week, we

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got release dates for Echo season one
and Loki season two on the Disney Plus

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platform. Loki has gotten pushed back
from its suspected release date. We thought

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we were going to get it in
late summer, but actually it's going to

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come out on October sixth, so
in the middle of the fall. A

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lot of people are speculating that that's
because they're going to do some reshoots pertaining

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to the character of Kang the Conqueror, who is played by Jonathan Majors,

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who is in some legal troubles regarding
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not sure if the release date was
pushed back so that they could recast him,

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possibly, or maybe it's just pushed
back for the public to get more

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information regarding what happened, and maybe
he gets his name cleared. I'm not

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sure. Yeah, we'll see.
Apparently his case is going to trial this

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summer, so it's probably best for
his fate with Disney to be decided pending

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the results of the trial. You
know, if he's exonerated, then they

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could probably keep him as King.
If he's found guilty, then Marvel is

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going to want to distance themselves from
the actor. So look forward to Loki

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season two on October sixth. Echo
is coming out later in the fall,

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on November twenty ninth. Interestingly enough, they're going to release all episodes of

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Echo at the same time, which
is something that Disney Plus has not done

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with previous Marvel television shows. Yeah, that was really surprising to me.

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I'm not sure why Disney would want
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I don't know if it's, you
know, to get people talking about

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it during the holidays when they're all
together, or whether they just don't have

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enough faith in the show and just
want people to forget about it as soon

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as possible. It's either a really
good sign or a really bad sign.

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I think yeah. There's definitely a
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to whether or not Marvel has any
faith in the show itself. Apparently it

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had to undergo drastic reshoots in order
to be releasable. According to some rumors

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that I read, Kevin Figi didn't
like the first iteration of the entire season.

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I think they dropped the episode accounting
from eight to like six or four.

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But we'll definitely be watching it and
reviewing it when it drops later this

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year again on November twenty ninth.
Surprisingly, we haven't had any new Marvel

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Disney Plus television shows this year.
The first one is going to be Secret

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Invasion, which comes out in about
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initially like we were going to get
Ironheart and Agatha Coven of Chaos this year,

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but it looks like those shows are
being pushed back to twenty twenty four.

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But I think that does it for
all the news for this episode,

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so let's go ahead and get into
our main event, where we review the

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latest DC HBO Max television series,
Titans season four. All Right, Titans

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season four is the latest and last
season of the Hbomax series that originated on

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the DC Universe, app back when
that was a thing. The show,

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which focuses on the Titans characters from
the comics such as Nightwing, Starfire Raven,

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and beast Boy, is a very
dark and gritty take on the DC

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Universe, one that seems to very
much be inspired by the Snyder Verse,

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though with a lot more violence and
f bombs. The series can come across

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as sophomoric at times, but season
by season it's grown into a show with

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real heart and has ample fan service
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While I won't say that season four
is better than season three, which we

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reviewed on this podcast, I will
say that the end of this season and

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this series was for the most part
satisfying, though it was a real struggle

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to get there. If you aren't
caught up on season four, here's a

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pro tip. Watch episodes one through
six, then skip to episode eleven,

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because episode seventh through ten are useless
trash that nearly made me call quits on

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doing this review because it was just
so hard to get through. I would

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agree with that. I mean,
episode nine has some cool moments, but

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it wasn't really necessary to the main
narrative of the season. Yeah, I

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mean largely. My main issue with
this season was tone. Like the first

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couple of episodes were really strong,
they were dark and actually scary, and

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I thought it was going to wrap
up into this spectacular Stranger Things esque finale,

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But after the halfway point, the
pacing took a massive hit, followed

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by an almost experimental episode that I
felt completely out of place in the series

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in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely, It's almost like the writers didn't know

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what to do with those episodes,
so they had like a vague list of

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like outline ideas and then wrote to
those plot points without much care being taken

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to things like character motivations, and
so it felt like just a bunch of

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needless side plots. Absolutely, absolutely
that really didn't pay off later on in

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the season. Like, what I'm
really afraid of is that the writers learned

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that the series was getting canceled and
so they were like, fuck it,

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just let one of the actors write
one of the episodes. Yeah, it

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was a jumbled mess. I would
not be surprised if that happened. It

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kind of did happen because Ryan Potter, the actor who plays beast Boy,

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was credited for the story for that
episode for episode nine. Yes, I

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did not know that. It was
very different tone wise, And you know,

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the show is somewhat known for having
these divergent episodes each season, and

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those episodes are some of the best
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Yeah, for season three, I
think it was the Heaven episode where

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Tim Drake met Donna Troy in the
Afterlife, right, it was mostly black

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and white. Yes, yeah,
the black and white episodes exactly. Speaking

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of which, we didn't see Donna
Troy or Hawk and Dove at all this

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season. No, I wasn't surprised
about Hawk and Dove, but I was

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really missing Donna Troy. I thought
she was a great member of the cast

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alongside Barbara Gordon. Like I was
missing both of those characters, and it's

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one of the reasons why I think
this season also was as good as the

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last season, just because of the
roster. I remember looking at the images

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of each episode in the season and
being really excited when I saw that Cyborg

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was going to be in one of
the episodes. Yeah, thinking that,

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you know, finally Cyborg was going
to team up with the Titans and we

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were going to have like the main
Titans characters on the Titans television show.

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But that didn't really pan out that
way, No, dude, same.

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I saw that, and I was
so excited, and it was such a

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letdown. I don't know if my
expectations were just too high, but I

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figured Cyborg was going to join the
Titans in the Final Battle. I just

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had really really high hopes and it
just completely dashed them. I was actually

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really surprised by the potential that was
there that was not realized, not only

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with the Doom Patrol characters, but
the other multiverse characters that they introduced,

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like Star Girl. You know,
those cameos should have had me crying tears

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of joy, but instead there were
just tears. Like to make it across

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that stretch of three or four episodes
after the break, Yeah, additional cameos

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included the flash Grant Gustin's character,
Yeah, which is pretty interesting. We

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also saw a Shazam. That was
pretty cool. Yeah, we got to

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see beast Boy, the cartoon version
from Teen Titans go and some guy I

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had no idea who he was.
He was like drawing a circle on a

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piece of paper and he was like, I can see you hi. Oh

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that was Grant Morrison. What.
Yeah, the comic book writer totally didn't

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catch them. I just never expected, like this version of Beast Boys be

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like waffles waffles, and he was, and it was weird. I do

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think it was sort of funny when
Robotman was introducing beast Boy too Cyborg and

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he was like, you guys are
probably gonna hate each other as fans,

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knowing that those two guys are best
friends. It was kind of funny.

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But the rest of that whole dum
Patrol stuff was just so fucking dumb and

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pointless. Yeah, it was almost
like the writers didn't quite understand what the

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Red was, at least their understanding
of the Red is not my understanding of

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what the Red is in the comics, Like, it's not a dimensional teleportation

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tool, No it's not. It's
just basically the life force that several characters

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tap into to access their animal powers. That's correct. Yeah, including Vixen,

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Animal Man, Beast Boy, and
I guess Buanna Beast. Yeah,

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Buana Beast and Freedom Beast who we
saw in this season. Well, I

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thought that was Buanna Beast. What's
the difference between Buanna Beast and Freedom Beast,

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No real difference. Freedom Beast is
just the successor of b Wanna Beast.

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I hate the name Freedom Beast.
What the health kind of name is

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that They should just call him the
Beast, not Beast because that's taken by

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the X Men member. But the
Beast I think works. I mean,

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I think most people call him that
anyway. Oh really, Yeah. I

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was so excited when I saw him
too, because I've been wanting to do

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a dual episode with Bowana Beast or
Freedom Beast forever because I think it has

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just like a really fascinating power set. I just have no idea how that

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would play out in a speculation.
But to move on from those cameos,

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I would say overall the rest of
the season was not terrible. It was

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pretty much par for the course from
the past seasons, the main difference being

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this season we had a really,
really terrible villain. This Brother Blood character

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was the most wishy washy son of
a Bitch I've ever seen in any comic

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book story ever. Yeah, the
character never quite sold me on the threatening

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stakes that were supposed to be present
for the season, because he just seemed

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too unconfident and incompetent to make the
threat reel. So in that regard,

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I can't see that. There was
a great build up to the end of

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the series. Again, especially after
the halfway point. I can't stress so

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much that I liked this season up
until episode seven, when it came back

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from Hiatus. I kind of wish
they would have ended with episode six.

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This season was probably four or five
six episodes too long, and you know

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that happens to the best of shows, Like we even said for Daivil seasons

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one and two, and a lot
of the Marvel Netflix shows that they're probably

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an episode or two too long for
the season. I did enjoy the rest

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of what we got here, including
the action. It was really fun spare,

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but what we did get was really
well choreographed, and I've always enjoyed

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the action in the Titans series.
Yeah. When I think about the best

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qualities of the Titans series, I
think of the action, especially when compared

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to a show like Doom Patrol,
which is even more sparse on action,

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but you know, it's not really
an action show. Titans is, and

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when they do have their fight scenes, it's always a lot of fun.

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Yeah. The actors just seemed really
committed to the choreography and they're really good

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at it. Brenton Thwaite's is a
total badass, and I don't know,

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for some reason, I wouldn't think
that he would be a good martial artist,

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but he makes me believe that he
is in this series, or is

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a really good stunt double. That's
true. Yeah, the special effects were

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better this time around. Overall,
there weren't any special effects this season where

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I was like, oh, that's
obviously fake, with the exception of maybe

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some of Beast Boys animal transformations,
but again, those were much better than

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what we've had in the past.
Yeah. I like how we got more

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than just a tiger this time.
You know, we got the gorilla,

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an eagle or hawk type thing.
Yeah. I like the octopus tentacle arm.

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That was pretty cool. I hadn't
seen that before. I did like

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the virus transformation. That was cool. It was kind of like COVID.

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Yeah, but the main thing that
I've always enjoyed The most about this series

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and this season in particular, is
the cast. Let's talk more about the

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cast in our character breakdown now.
Dick Grayson slash Nightwing was played by Brenton

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Thwaites. He has been a fantastic
Dick Grayson since season one, Like,

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he's the best actor on the show, hands down, and I'm absolutely going

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to miss him as the character.
Yeah, it's too bad. I was

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always kind of hoping that his Robin
would somehow parlay into the DCU because I

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actually think that he would be equality
Robin to Ben Affleck's Batman, and he

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is, without a doubt, the
best thing about the Titan series as a

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whole. Now this show, Dick
fully emerged from Batman shadow in season three,

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and he begins this season as a
fully realized leader and benefactor of the

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team. Outside of leading the team, Dick's relatively weak arc this season is

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a romantic one, and he and
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be together. Despite his weak arc, though, Dick's leadership, competence and

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ample number of allies are a driving
force of the show, as characters such

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as John Constantine are name dropped several
times. This season, and we would

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get to meet one of Dick's old
flames in Jinks. Jacks's appearance helped reinforce

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the fact that Dick has matured from
a heartless casanova to someone who has genuine

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romantic feelings for Corey. By the
final scene of the series, it appears

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that Dick and Corey's visions of their
future daughter and life together are going to

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satisfyingly come true. Yeah. I
was kind of annoyed by how many random

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allies he had, though, I
didn't like that as a device to advance

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the plot. He's like, oh
yeah, I just know this person who's

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an expert in alien languages. Oh
yeah, I just know these people who

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know magic. It's like they made
his social network a superpower. True.

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I mean, but like Batman and
Robbin's superpowers have always really been their resources.

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So while it's a little far fetched, it also does kind of speak

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to the experience that he has more
so than the others. I just thought

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it was a little bit convenient.
It's super convenient, but it's fucking Batman

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and Robin. Sure, I guess
you don't get more convenient than them.

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Okay, Bash Shark repellent come on. I am really glad that this show

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decided to have a happy and satisfying
ending, because if it didn't, like

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if someone died, it would have
left kind of a better sweet sour note

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to the end of the series as
a whole, and I think I would

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have walked away enjoying it a lot
less. It was interesting because it's the

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end of a specific franchise in the
same way that Guardians of the Galaxy Volume

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three was, and we even got
that like round table meeting at the end

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where everybody kind of explained where they
were going to go from here. I

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will say that the Titans ending was
more satisfying than the Guardians the Galaxy three

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ending, but Guardians was supposed to
be a little bit more emotional, and

406
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.319
everything wasn't all peaches and cream wrapped
up in a bow. Yeah, I

407
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.440
didn't even think about the connection between
Guardians and Titans. But let's move on

408
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:59.400
to Starfire aka Coriander aka Cory Enders. She was played by Mommy an A

409
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.480
Dia also known just as on a
DAP. She was fantastic. She's a

410
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.400
beautiful actress. She plays Starfire so
confidently, which is a nice departure from

411
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:12.200
how the character is sometimes portrayed in
other media just like very naive. Her

412
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:18.480
character and Dick were unquestionably the leaders
of the tight Ends simply through their strong

413
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.799
characters. You don't miss the naive
characterization of Starfire in this show. Really,

414
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.000
I kind of like this badass version. She is a badass. She

415
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.160
should act like a badass. She
still had the blue energy powers in this

416
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.519
season that she got from season three, but I was glad to see that

417
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.720
she finally went back to orange by
the time the series ended. Same.

418
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.279
Yeah, that was nice. I
wasn't a fan of the blue powers.

419
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.720
I was just like, Oh,
that's not what it's like in the comics.

420
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.359
But whatever, Well it's green in
the comics, right, true.

421
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.720
Yeah, although I mean her hair
leaves like a fire trial, so I

422
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.920
could understand why they would interpret her
power as like an orange flame. Now.

423
00:29:53.960 --> 00:30:00.319
Corey's arc revolved around her prophetic destiny
to defeat the threat of Trigone.

424
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.079
In the first season, she was
sent to Earth to kill Raven, but

425
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:10.200
once Raven rejected her father, Corey's
destiny to sacrifice herself bringing down Trygon's successor

426
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:15.680
resurfaced with the discovery of the Temple
of Azareth. By Lex Luthor and Mother

427
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.920
Mayhem. She proves especially useful this
season because of her new blue Light power

428
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.880
that emerged last season and its potency
against the black magic of the Cult of

429
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.480
Blood. Realizing how much she deeply
cares for Dick, she continually attempted to

430
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.119
stop Brother Blood on her own,
not wanting Dick or the others to get

431
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:38.160
caught in the crossfire or try to
stop her, and by the final episode,

432
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:42.160
she makes the decision on her own
to destroy the threat of Trygon once

433
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.680
for all by killing Brother Blood,
and for that decision, she's seemingly rewarded

434
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.920
and gets to enjoy a life with
Dick. Not sure how or why they

435
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.440
decided that this ultimate sacrifice didn't end
up killing her, because that would be

436
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.319
said, yes, I feel like
that's the only reason. Can you explain

437
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.839
why the Tamaranians are caught up in
these like supernatural threats? I mean not

438
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.079
really, It's not like that in
the comics. Really, I think this

439
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:14.960
is just a stem from season one
where Corey was sent to Earth to kill

440
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.559
Rachel because her alien race knew of
the threat of Trigon. Is Trigon an

441
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.200
alien within this specific universe? No, he's a demon straight up. Speaking

442
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:27.079
of demons, let's move on to
Rachel Roth aka Raven, played by Tiguan

443
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:33.160
Kroft. Tigan was a fairly young
actress when she was first cast as Raven

444
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.000
at age thirteen. We've seen her
grow on screen, and while she's always

445
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.240
been a good performer, I feel
like she really came into the role of

446
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.359
Raven this season with her subtle flicks
of her head and hands. I think

447
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.200
she could have gone a much different
route and more emotional direction with a performance,

448
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.880
but I admire with a technical approach
she took well. She was barely

449
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.880
in season three, so I feel
like I didn't really get to know her

450
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:01.480
character until this season. It was
interesting that they made her like some kind

451
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:05.200
of purified Raven or something. I
don't know what it is, but all

452
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.640
I know is that it's a rip
off of the White Phoenix of the Crown

453
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.319
from Marvel. Now you think that, but you would be completely wrong because

454
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.680
I'm pretty sure DC did it first. You don't know that. You're just

455
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.200
assuming right now. DC did it
during the eighties during the George Perez run.

456
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.440
When did Jean Gray do the White
whatever the White Phoenix of the Crown.

457
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.119
Well, well that didn't happen until
Phoenix and Song, which is in

458
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.920
the two thousands. But DC still
sucks. I think he just proved Marvel

459
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.799
does. But okay, now,
Trygon's influence over Raven this season is pretty

460
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.440
much non existent, you know,
which was evidenced by that white form she

461
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.319
took on, which signified in the
comics that she had been cleansed of her

462
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:50.200
father's darkness. The white hair and
outfit sort of happened by accident and without

463
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.000
real explanation this season, which I
thought was kind of lame. I wish

464
00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:00.119
they would have waited for that until
they used Constantine's spell to personifying destroy the

465
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.640
darkness within her. But in this
show, it was the result of a

466
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:08.319
power drain, which I mean,
okay, she definitely acted purified this whole

467
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.960
season, you know, caring for
her brother Sebastian. I wish they would

468
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.839
have further explored her temptation to remain
powerless and live a normal life, but

469
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:22.680
they kind of dismissed it as her
being bored with normalcy. That just is

470
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.759
the exemplary of all the shifting character
motivations you have throughout this entire show.

471
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.799
This is like the biggest bunch of
wafflers. I've ever seen in any superhero

472
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.480
show where like, one episode they
want to do one thing, and then

473
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.279
the next episode they want to do
something the exact opposite, with no real

474
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:44.000
catalyst for that change in motivation.
Waffler's baffler's wafflers, wafflers, bafflers,

475
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:49.039
bafflers. Yeah, you're right,
I can't debate that. I also don't

476
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.480
love how the show introduced the idea
that the Tamaraneans were the ones to destroy

477
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.519
Trigon, because I always thought that
that was Raven's ultimate arc and once she

478
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.160
fulfilled early on in season two when
she killed Trygone for the first time.

479
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:07.400
But in this season it turned out
that Trygon apparently it's just easy to kill

480
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.199
all along, which is really stupid
because it's fucking Trygone. Yeah, when

481
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.519
Brother Blood just freaking ripped out his
heart, I was like, no,

482
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.320
I mean, Trygone supposed to be
one of the badass motherfuckers in the entire

483
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.159
universe, and the fact that he
just like went out like a punk ass

484
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.599
was shocking, to say the least. It was table flipping frustrating. I

485
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.599
hated it, and I think any
self respecting DC fan also hates that moment.

486
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.119
What did you think of her white
outfit? I mean, I was

487
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.760
glad that we got to see it
once during this series, but I just

488
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.519
hated the fact that she also along
with the audience, did not know how

489
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.519
she got it, and they never
gave an explanation for it. She basically

490
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.800
just gave a shrug when people were
like, what's happening here? And that

491
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.559
was it. That was the most
explanation we got. Again, it's meant

492
00:34:54.559 --> 00:35:00.840
to signify her purified state without any
demonic influence or traits. Let's move on

493
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:07.199
to gar Logan aka beast Boy.
He was played by Ryan Potter, and

494
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.199
Ryan is definitely a huge fan of
the source material. I'm not convinced though,

495
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.360
that he ever truly nailed his performance
as beast Boy, partly because it's

496
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:21.599
hard to be comedic in such a
dark show, but also because he wasn't

497
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:25.159
given full rain to use his powers
due to budgetary constraints. I mean,

498
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:30.760
like we mentioned earlier, he did
get more animals to transform into this season,

499
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:35.840
but it's still felt lacking. I
think Ryan saw that the writers weren't

500
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.559
maximizing beast boys potential, and I
think that's why he helped come up with

501
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.199
the story four episode Din alongside Jeff
Johns. I don't know if it was

502
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.440
just to give Beast Boy like one
last hurrah and one kind of like glimpse

503
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:52.559
as to like the comedic nature or
more comedic nature that he could have had

504
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.400
no idea now. Beast boys arc
revolved around his newfound connection to the Red

505
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.159
and his destiny to become its guardian. After seeing visions of a tree with

506
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:07.239
animal bones hanging from it, He's
eventually visited by Freedom Beast, who tells

507
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.440
him to visit the Red when he
sees the Temple of Azaroth split. Gar

508
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.320
enters the Red only to go on
a spiritual journey guided by Freedom Beast,

509
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.000
where he learns that doctor Niles Calder
killed his parents and that he is the

510
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.679
next chosen Guardian of the Red,
which is, you know, a multiversal

511
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:28.920
connection between all living animals that we've
mentioned before. Now, Gar rejected Freedom

512
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:32.599
Beasts plead to abandon the Titans and
accept his destiny as Guardian of the Red,

513
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.079
and you know, went on to
help his friends the Titans, despite

514
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.400
Freedom beasts protests, and there were
really no consequences of that. I don't

515
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.440
understand why Freedom Beast was warning guard
not to do that. He wanted him

516
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.079
to be a loner, thinking that
he wouldn't fulfill his responsibility as if he

517
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.000
was too busy with the Titans team. But we won't see the consequences of

518
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.800
that because the show's over, right, So I'm not having sure why they

519
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.840
needed to bring it up to begin
with. It was all just basically a

520
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:02.559
reason for him to say goodbye to
the team at the end. True,

521
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.039
yeah, and I'm not sure if
I would consider that a satisfying ending.

522
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.800
I do like the fact that beast
Boy is going to go on to have

523
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.840
more adventures. I don't know if
I like the fact that he's not going

524
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:19.400
to be with Rachel, but you
know that romantic relationship was always secondary to

525
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:24.480
Dick and Corey's anyway. Moving gone
to Kunnter Kent or kunor Luthor aka Superboy.

526
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:30.960
He was played by Joshua Orpan.
Joshua Orpan gave his best performance this

527
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:36.280
season. You definitely saw a Superboy
evolved over the course of season four from

528
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.679
being somewhat naive to a cunning badass. The fact that he was able to

529
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:46.039
pull off both with one character is
a testament to his talent. I'm actually

530
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:52.280
pretty sad that he could probably never
play Superman, because I think he would

531
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.199
have been great in the role.
Yeah, it was a little bit strange

532
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.920
when he went full Lex mode,
but after a while I kind of got

533
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.679
used to it. It was just
awkward at first, but then you know,

534
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.960
once the audience kind of settled in
to this new status quo for the

535
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.400
character, I thought it worked.
Yeah, he pulled it off, for

536
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.679
sure, I thought now. In
the first episode of this season, super

537
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:15.159
Boy is approached by Lex Luthor,
his villainous creator, and the super Boy

538
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:20.599
is appropriately apprehensive. He learns,
however, that Lex is dying of kryptonite

539
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.679
poisoning and that he wants to impart
onto Connor his thesis. As he puts

540
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:29.960
it, his thoughts, he wants
Connor to truly know him. After Lex's

541
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.760
shocking death, Connor begins a vengeance
arc as he was robbed of getting to

542
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.320
know his creator and father. It's
made clear that both Superman and Lex Luthor

543
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.119
are weak to magic in this show, and Connor is no exception as he

544
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:50.559
succumbs to it several times, ultimately
making the decision that his father's bad guy

545
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.440
roles would be more effective against the
dark forces that they're facing, but he

546
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:00.639
ultimately learns later in the season that
Dick's lessons have always been true, that

547
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:07.159
the Titans are better and more successful
as a team rather than individuals, discovering

548
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.599
for himself the power of good over
bad. Connor at the end decides to

549
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.400
pursue and bond with his other father, Superman. I'm not quite sure he

550
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.800
received the proper catalyst to heat Vision
off all of his hair, but it

551
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.360
was understandable that he was kind of
frustrated at his inability to deal with the

552
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.559
magic threat that was posed in this
season. Yeah, I agree. Actually,

553
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.559
I think Superboy's arc was my favorite
this season. I thought it was

554
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:36.599
definitely the most interesting, and a
large part of that has to do with

555
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.480
Lex Luthor. In the first episode, I thought he was going to be

556
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.119
the main villain for pretty much the
whole season, so for him to be

557
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.559
killed off was a huge shock to
me in the first episode. Same here.

558
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.440
There were definitely parts of this season
where I was like Connor, what

559
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.800
the hell are you doing, you
dunce, And then there are other parts

560
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.239
where I was like, guys,
listen to Connor, this dude's got the

561
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.199
right idea. So those kind of
like conflicting feelings regarding the character. I

562
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.920
thought, yeah, made him the
most interesting, like you said, and

563
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.159
at the end he recognized, you
know, the mistakes that he made it.

564
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.599
I thought that was tremendous character growth. Yeah, totally. I liked

565
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:15.280
that they didn't let him let himself
get away with what had happened and way

566
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:16.880
he had done. I thought that
was smart because I was afraid that they

567
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:20.679
were going to before I move on. I also just want to say that

568
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.519
there was nearly not enough Crypto this
season. I know we didn't get to

569
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.159
see Crypto used his powers once.
No, you just kind of like hanging

570
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.360
out in the RV, never getting
to take a dump. No. Yeah,

571
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.159
he could have totally helped them,
like track Brother Blood and the Temple

572
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.880
of Azeroth and so many things.
He could have been utilized much better.

573
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.320
I wanted to see him in every
battle, just like dropping fools. Moving

574
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.920
gone to the final Titan Tim Drake
ak Robin. He was played by Jay,

575
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:52.239
Like Kergo, Jay seems like a
decent actor, though I think it's

576
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.199
kind of obvious he hasn't had as
much time with the character as the other

577
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.719
Titans performers. I thought he seemed
pretty comfortable in the role. Him's journey

578
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:06.400
this season is twofold becoming a capable
and contributing member of the team while also

579
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:12.800
exploring a burgeoning romance with the Star
Lab scientist Bernard FitzMartin. I personally feel

580
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.280
like the romance arc felt a little
shoehorned into the show and may have something

581
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.239
to do with Tim Drake recently discovering
he's bisexual in the comics. Oh really,

582
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.519
yeah, yeah, that happened.
I think last year or the year

583
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:29.880
before. COVID is a blur,
interesting because he was always romantically involved with

584
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:34.639
spoiler right, a spoiler for a
time with Wonder Girl. Yeah, yeah,

585
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.960
it's a new thing. Okay to
me, that kind of came out

586
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.679
of nowhere because I have horrible gaitar. We all of a sudden they were

587
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.920
standing next to each other and they
kissed. I'm like, where the hell

588
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:47.039
did when did this happen? With
my wife? Actually, she was like

589
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.639
what She didn't recognize that. I
was like, I thought they I thought

590
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.119
they were just like good friends or
something like that. But like, apparently

591
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.079
my wife saw that coming like a
mile away. I didn't think it was

592
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.880
obvious, but I got an inkling
like once Bernard handed Tim his phone number.

593
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.039
But I don't know. To me, that could also just be like

594
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:06.920
something you do with your bros.
It's like, yeah, dude, here's

595
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.719
my number. Yeah yeah, I
don't know. I don't know either.

596
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:14.280
But seeing the character grow into the
Robin persona, you know, learning how

597
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.880
to use the bow staff and training
under red Hood, I thought that was

598
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:21.760
really cool to see. That was
cool. I really liked that as soon

599
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.159
as Jason Todd showed up, Like
I don't know, Jason Todd wasn't my

600
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.639
favorite character from the past season,
but I was actually excited to see him

601
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.119
like more than I thought I would
be, and to see him like train

602
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.719
under the previous Robin, I thought
was a pretty cool concept. Yeah yeah,

603
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.159
I thought so too. And I
like the way he was executed too,

604
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.039
where basically Jason Todd just threw him
into the deep end. And Tim's

605
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.880
fighting style, you know, Jason
told him he relies too much on his

606
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.800
toys, but that kind of goes
into the resourcefulness and intelligence of the character.

607
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:50.800
I think when he was getting his
ass kicked and all of a sudden

608
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.920
he turned to whatever quote unquote toy
he had on hand, Whether it be

609
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:58.400
like a chair or a book or
something like that. He just used all

610
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.000
of it to defend himself and when
the ultimately I liked how they showed that

611
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.800
this was the kind of like a
new style of Robin. Yeah, that

612
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:07.519
was cool. It's also kind of
a joke that Red Hood it sound like

613
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:13.599
Robin that he relies on his twice
too much because Red Hood uses fucking guns,

614
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.079
right, that's true. I liked
the new Robin outfit though, Yeah,

615
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.440
it was. You know, it's
a lot more colorful than the previous

616
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.199
Robin suits that were on the show. I think it's a perfect example of

617
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.920
how you can take an outfit like
Robin's costume, which has, you know,

618
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:32.039
for the longest time, been kind
of ridiculed or believed to be inadaptable

619
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:36.880
to live action. This proves everybody
wrong. Oh yeah, it was a

620
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.280
great adaptation for sure. All of
the costumes in this series are great.

621
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.000
Yeah. Moving on to the bad
guys. May Bennett aka Mother Mayhem.

622
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:50.760
She was played by Franka Potente.
I don't know if that's the correct pronunciation.

623
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.000
It took me a couple of episodes
before I realized that Franca was the

624
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.639
actress from Run Lola, Run and
the born identity. She's a solid leading

625
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.320
act and I was kind of surprised
to see her on the show. I

626
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.519
think she made the most of what
was on the page and in less her

627
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.360
hands. I think this character could
have probably been a disaster, but Froka

628
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.960
for the most part, did a
good job. Well. I mean,

629
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.400
she has a distinctive look to her, especially when you take away her eyebrows.

630
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:21.119
For some reason, every time she
was in her Mother Mayhem persona,

631
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.360
her eyebrows vanished. Oh you didn't
know that. That's like Mother Mayhem's power

632
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.239
in the comics to change the color
of her eyebrows on a win. That's

633
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.800
a lie. But no. Yeah, I think that she brought some needed

634
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.039
star power to the series. I
definitely recognized her, and yeah, I

635
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.119
thought it was good casting. Yeah, May Bennett. You know, she

636
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.480
was a young psychic woman who was
discovered by the organization or Trigone's secret cult.

637
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.400
After proving herself worthy, she was
impregnated with Trigon's child, though she

638
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:54.639
gave birth to a boy, Sebastian. When Trygon's anti prophecy spoke of a

639
00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:00.079
daughter, Sebastian was taken away from
her and May suffered from a mental breakdown,

640
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.280
after which she was kept in a
faux mental hospital. When the Titans

641
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.239
burned that down in season one,
may evidently escaped and became the new leader

642
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:15.000
of Trygon's cult, dubbed Mother Mayhem, who sought to make her son Sebastian

643
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.400
the true prophesied child to summon Trygon. But despite her best efforts and willingness

644
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:25.840
to sacrifice anything and anyone, her
son was too broken to fulfill her dreams

645
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.000
for him, and he killed her
more than once. In a fact,

646
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.840
I guess you just didn't learn the
first time. Now. Is Mother Mayhem

647
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:39.679
brother Blood's mother in the comics?
I don't remember. Mother Mayhem is sort

648
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.320
of like a figurehead role in the
church, kind of like a mother's superior.

649
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.079
Okay, yeah, I remember her
from the Judas Contract. Yes.

650
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.920
I thought the Church of Blood was
fantastic in that animated movie, definitely cooler

651
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.880
than they were in this season.
The whole prophecy thing had me really confused

652
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.719
too, because Rachel was always the
one that was prophesied to someone Trygone,

653
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.719
and she did that. So where
did all of these secondary prophecies come from?

654
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.960
I have no idea. Yeah,
I couldn't tell you. I'd be

655
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.599
interested in learning more about Brother Blood
though, if we ever do a duel

656
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.960
with him. Yeah, we'll have
to maybe around Halloween or something. But

657
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:19.199
speaking of Brother Blood aka Sebastian Singer, he was played by Joseph Morgan.

658
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:23.039
I don't know quite what to think
of Joseph Morgan's performance. I guess you

659
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.239
could say it was good. I
just think the character himself was written poorly

660
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.639
and weak. I thought the actor
was really solid, going from this kind

661
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:38.320
of loser guy into this freaking superpowerful
badass. I thought the transition there,

662
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.599
while long, was still believable.
I'm just not sure he ever attained that

663
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:49.280
like pure badass. I think he
was always just so unbelievably neurotic. Yeah.

664
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.639
I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I admire the performance,

665
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.360
I don't admire the character at all. Again, way too wishywashi. It

666
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.000
seemed like he had no idea what
he wanted to do at any given moment,

667
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.199
right all the way up into like
the penultimate episode, when you know,

668
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.400
he teamed with super Boy to kill
his mom and then he ended up

669
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.119
blowing the horn anyway to summon Trigon, who he didn't want to summon,

670
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.679
like a few minutes earlier. It
was just so bizarre. I was so

671
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.840
frustrated with his character. Yeah,
same, I mean Sebastian. He started

672
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:21.840
the show just as a simple,
orphaned taxidermist with aspirations of launching his own

673
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:27.000
video game that you brought humanity together
and made him famous. That was until

674
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.000
like dark and bloody visions led him
to learning that he's the son of Trigon,

675
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:35.280
sought after by a cult to bring
the demon back to Earth. After

676
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.800
accepting his role as the cult's messiah
in order to save the Titans who had

677
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.599
been kind to him, Sebastian gets
a power trip, acting like a rebellious

678
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.480
and demanding teenager who thinks his mom
is stupid. Yeah he was like a

679
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.679
little kid. Yeah, totally after
the first half of the season for sure.

680
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.760
After refusing to summon Trygon, Sebastian
kills his mother and partners with super

681
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.119
Boy, now the head of Lex
Corp. To launch his video game,

682
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.519
which he adds a curse to and
it begins draining the life force from those

683
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.639
who play it. After killing his
mother and the freshly summoned Trigone, Sebastian

684
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:15.320
becomes a seemingly all powerful brother Blood, though I'm not sure why he was

685
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.760
able to kill Superboy and the Star
Lab scientists so easily, but Nightwink managed

686
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.119
to put up a fight. Yeah, that didn't make any sense. Throughout

687
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:29.000
the season, Sebastian claimed he just
didn't want to be in nobody, but

688
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.039
when he became something. His reason
for destroying the planet was to practice the

689
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.320
cruelty others had shown him, but
it all felt very shortsighted, and the

690
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:42.559
character never seemed confident or smart enough
to ever pose a credible threat. As

691
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.639
I mentioned earlier, Real Week Villain. There were a number of other characters

692
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.320
that appeared in the series, such
as Jinks, but let's touch on them

693
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.559
in our story Highlights Now. Episode
one was titled Lex Luthor Now. The

694
00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:00.119
season opens with Lex Luthor meeting archaeologist
May Bennett at an under around ritual cave

695
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:06.920
beneath a metropolis damn the Temple of
Azarath. Bennett is fired as Luthor asks

696
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.519
her never to disclose their contract.
After leaving Gotham City, the Titans are

697
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.039
invited to Star Labs and Metropolis,
where the team received new equipment courtesy of

698
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:21.400
Bruce Wayne. While Connor is expected
to meet with Superman, Star Labs scientist

699
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:27.480
Bernard FitzMartin informs Connor that Superman couldn't
appear due to unexpected duties and evolving a

700
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:32.440
collapsing star in another galaxy. Afterward, Connor is contacted by Luthor via high

701
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.559
frequency radio transmission, who wishes to
meet him personally. Corey goes to Lex

702
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:43.960
Corp tower and confronts Luthor while also
planting a bug to allow Dick and Timp

703
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:49.159
to recover information from Luther's computer,
while Tim and Dick fanned off Nija's sent

704
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.679
by Luther. Later, Dick and
Corey revealed to Connor that Luther is dying

705
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:57.639
due to kryptonite poisoning, and he
wishes for Connor to take over as the

706
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.320
new president of LexCorp. Connor goes
to meet to Luthor and agrees to stay

707
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:05.880
with him in order to learn more
about him, but Luthor begins to cough

708
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.719
up blood and dies as a magic
serpent crawls out of his body. As

709
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.119
Connor is arrested by Luther's security guards, Rachel begins to experience seizures while a

710
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:21.840
taxidermy shop worker, Sebastian Singer begins
to hallucinate. Great first episode, I

711
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.840
think the most shocking thing, of
course, was that Lex Luthor died like

712
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.239
you. I was anticipating that he
would be the primary villain of this entire

713
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.760
season, so to see him go
out like that in the first episode was

714
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:37.679
a neat little subversion I think for
a lot of people's expectations and what I

715
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.119
thought was the sign of great things
to come. Oh same, Yeah,

716
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.559
my expectations were definitely subverted. I
loved Lex Luthor in the series, and

717
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.920
yet I don't hate what they did
with him because Lex Luthor's, you know,

718
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.960
one of Dacy's highest tier villains,
and for another villain to be able

719
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.280
to take him down just kind of
like up to the anti for what was

720
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.800
possible in this season didn't quite live
up to it, but great prem I

721
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:02.760
did think that Superman leaving the planet
to go save of another galaxy he was

722
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.880
kind of bullshit. People forget Superman
relies on our son for his power,

723
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:12.559
so whenever he would like travel across
the universe, I was always like,

724
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.480
I don't know if he should be
doing that. He probably flies close to

725
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.760
other Yellow Sons along the way and
then was clear of the Red Giants,

726
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.559
But I mean, when he's going
to stop a collapsing son. That's not

727
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.559
exactly a yellow son. I don't
know. How do you know it's not

728
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.639
a yellow son. It might be
a yellow son because yellow sons don't collapse.

729
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.199
Okay, maybe he gets more power
from a white dwarf. You don't

730
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.440
know. Oh, that's interesting.
I never thought about that. Moving gone

731
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.639
to episode two, which was titled
Mother Mayhem, Cunnor is held at a

732
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:45.519
Metropolis detention center as Dick and Corey
began to investigate Luther's death. Dick and

733
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.360
Rachel go to LexCorp Tower to mystically
track down the real killer, while Corey

734
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:54.199
pursues one of Luther's associates, who
reveals to her that Luther has been dealing

735
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:59.920
with the occult to evade death.
Meanwhile, Sanger struggles with his life as

736
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.440
a video game he's developed is rejected, and his adoptive mother passes away.

737
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:08.079
Rachel's vision leads the team to a
civilian household, where they rescue a young

738
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.840
girl named Ariya who was trapped in
a nightmare. Their pursuit leads them to

739
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:19.960
an abandoned slaughterhouse, where Rachel confronts
a bird skull masked killer revealed to be

740
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:24.840
Luther's personal physician Arthur Holmwood, who
sets himself on fire while the team rescues

741
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:30.440
Aria's father and several other men whose
blood was being drained. Afterward, Connor

742
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:36.559
is released from detention as his innocence
is proven. Later, Sagar begins to

743
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.800
hear chanting while sitting alone. As
the Titans leave Metropolis, they are confronted

744
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.760
by may Bennett aka Mother Mayhem,
who wields a magical staff as she begins

745
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.960
to cause havoc. Mother Mayhem defeats
the Titans with ease until Corey steps in

746
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.400
and uses her powers, forcing her
to retreat. However, Mother Mayhem manages

747
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.760
to drain Rachel's power, causing the
gem on her forehead to disappear and her

748
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:06.719
hair to turn white. I thought
it was really interesting how Lex Luthor's associate

749
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.920
explained that after a point, Lex
Luthor stopped trying to fight the disease he

750
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:16.440
had and tried to fight death itself. That's very Lex Luthor to me.

751
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:22.679
The fact that he would turn to
occulticism and his desperation was very interesting.

752
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.880
You think he would turn more to
like Lazarus Pits or something like that.

753
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.519
I'm not entirely sure what his goal
was with the Temple of Azareth. Was

754
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.159
he hoping to like have Trigon grant
him immortality or something like that. That

755
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.280
was never quite clear. Oh that's
true. Yeah, But I mean,

756
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.719
you know, maybe he was willing
to sell his soul to the devil or

757
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:44.800
make a deal with the devil in
order to get this terminal illness removed from

758
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.760
him. That's possible. Mother Mayhem
definitely presented a good show of force at

759
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.159
the end of this episode when she
basically wiped her ass with the whole team.

760
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.000
It was interesting wondering how the Times
were possibly going to go up against

761
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.239
this new threat, right Yeah,
And seemingly the whole purpose of that was

762
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.719
to drain of her power, not
to use it in any way apparently,

763
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:07.800
but just to Stora and prevent her
from interfering in their plans. I'm guessing

764
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.519
it did seem kind of like a
wasted opportunity that they wouldn't use that power

765
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.119
for something. Episode three was titled
Jinks, where Dick and Corey go to

766
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.679
blood Haven Penitentiary to meet with one
of Dick's old contacts named Jinks, in

767
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:24.159
order to ask her for help with
Rachel's problem. Jinks escapes captivity, but

768
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:29.239
Dick checks her down to a high
security vault where she was attempting to steal

769
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.400
a dark ELF's heart. Corey touches
the heart, causing her to turn to

770
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.360
stone. Dick and Jinks go to
meet with the dark Elf Lerone, in

771
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.000
order to ask her to revert the
spell, but Dick learns that Jinks can

772
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:45.559
revert the spell herself, and she
used him to steal one of Lerone's artifacts.

773
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.000
They return to the vault and free
Corey, who had a vision of

774
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:53.440
Zadira her trainer on Tamaran, advising
her of her imminent destiny. Connor and

775
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.159
Tim go to Star Labs to help
Tim begin his training. While there,

776
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.800
Connor discovers a connection between Homewood's victims
and Singer, who all share a genetic

777
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.159
mutation. Meanwhile, Singer is lured
by Mother Mayhem into a trap and is

778
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:14.440
arrested by the police and suspicion of
murder. Mother Mayhem confronts Singer in detention,

779
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:17.880
but super Boy manages to capture Singer
and escape with him. While looking

780
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:22.320
after Rachel, Garb begins to hear
the voices again and walks into the woods

781
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:27.760
with Rachel accompanying Kim. They discover
the tree in Gar's vision, and Gar

782
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.679
hears a warning from the voices.
I kind of thought it was hilarious when

783
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.159
Dick and Corey go to meet with
Jinks, and you know, she's been

784
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.800
in solitary confinement in this whole time, and as soon as she gets out,

785
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.480
she escapes by making contact with the
earth, you know, and using

786
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.039
a magic spell, and like nobody
says anything. Like I'd imagine that all

787
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.599
the guards just would just be like
super pissed off at Dick and Corey,

788
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.519
but like the two heroes just get
back in their car and drive off,

789
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:57.719
like, oh that sucks. Oh
well, the warden's like, where's prisoner

790
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:04.079
three or four? They're like now, it's like fuck. I liked Jinks

791
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.480
as a character though. I thought
she was a lot of fun. If

792
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.159
we can, we should probably eventually
put her in a dual episode against Marvel

793
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:13.039
character. Yeah. We almost did, actually, but it was hard to

794
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.000
find like a good matchup. We'll
have to keep thinking about it. Moving

795
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.719
one to episode four, it was
called Super Supermarket. The Titans, joined

796
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.920
by Singer and Jinks, discover that
Trigon's Cults the organization is still active and

797
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:30.519
is attempting to recruit Singer. The
team returns to the asylum where they originally

798
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.320
found Rachel's mother Angela, to investigate, only to find this supermarket had been

799
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.119
built on top of the old ruins. The team finds an entrance to the

800
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:45.119
asylum basement and discover several recordings detailing
Bennett's life as a member of the cults.

801
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.360
They learned that in nineteen eighty eight, Bennett gave birth to a baby

802
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.880
boy, who was rejected as he
was not the prophesied child, the baby

803
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:59.159
being Singer. Mother Mayhem summons an
army of undead zombies to attack the Titans,

804
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.719
including the former foe death Stroke,
but they managed to escape, though

805
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.360
Connor is wounded by zombie death stroke
in the process of escaping. The Titans

806
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:12.519
take Singer to Star Labs to seek
refuge, but Connor begins to cough up

807
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.000
blood and vomits a serpent whoever.
He keeps this a secret from the rest

808
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:21.079
of the team. Now. I
don't know about you, but these zombies

809
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:25.000
did not come across whatsoever in any
way as zombies to me. They kept

810
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:29.079
calling them zombies, but I was
like, no, these are just like

811
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.079
blue collar workers. What are you
talking about? Yeah, they were like

812
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:36.159
more possessed people or something like that. They definitely didn't look like undead people

813
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.800
for sure. Right after a series
like The Walking Dead and even like the

814
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:45.559
Last of Us, I think audiences
have a pretty clear picture of what zombies

815
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.199
look and behave like. And it
wasn't this. So the fact that you

816
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.960
see like Rachel taking a chainsaw to
some fucking guy's head, I was like,

817
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:59.559
why is going on? This is
like so sinister? Where's the makeup

818
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.480
team? That was crazy? And
like when zombie Deathstroke came around, he

819
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:06.039
just looked like a regular death stroke, except you know, he was walking

820
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.320
slowly. Right. They didn't do
enough at all. I want to know

821
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:14.320
why Superboy kept the secret of the
snakes he was vomiting from the team.

822
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.199
Yeah, that's a good question.
I don't know if it was because he

823
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:21.800
was just being manipulated by Mother Mayhem. It seemed that was the case just

824
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:25.199
because of how he was acting and
treating Brother Blood. So I think that's

825
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:30.280
the reason, and I think that's
partially why he ended up like turning evil

826
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:35.719
after the whole ordeal was over,
because he just felt terrible about being manipulated

827
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.599
in that way and being just powerless
to stop it. He figured his superman

828
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:43.519
powers were doing anything, so why
not, you know, turned to Lex's

829
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.400
ingenuity. Yeah, it makes sense
to me. We've been Gone two,

830
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:51.280
episode five, which was titled Inside
Man. Mother Mayhem summons the serpents to

831
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.880
infiltrate Star Labs, which catches the
attention of the Titans. They split up

832
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.360
to search for the serpent, but
Connor ends up being possessed by it.

833
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.960
The Titans prevent Connor from taking Singer
to Mother Mayhem, and Jink subdues him

834
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.800
as Rachel and Corey takes Singer away
from the lab to find a new safe

835
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.519
place. Dick and the others try
to figure out how to restore Connor back

836
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.280
to normal. After getting an unheard
response from Trygon, Mother Mayhem sacrifices Gina

837
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.960
to further her plot. When they
find the serpent inside Connor's body, Gar

838
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:28.280
proposes that he turned himself into a
virus and infiltrate Connor's body in order to

839
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.280
replicate and infect the serpent. He
succeeds in doing so, forcing the serpent

840
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:37.639
to escape Connor's body, while Tim
kills it with his staff, saving Bernard

841
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.719
in the process. The two of
them later share a kiss, then extract

842
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:45.639
gar from Connor's blood and restore him
to normal. Meanwhile, Rachel and Corey

843
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:52.320
takes Singer to an Elko diner in
Metropolis, where they meet with Zadira after

844
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.679
concealing themselves. Zadira warns Cory of
Singer's imminent destiny as a threat to the

845
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:02.239
world and implores her to kill him. Corey refuses, prompting Zadira to leave.

846
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:07.639
Mother Mayhem appears in the diner and
fights Corey, but Singer surrenders himself

847
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:12.800
to protect her and Rachel. Mother
Mayhem take Singer back to the cult,

848
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:16.280
where they hail him as brother Blood. What is the relevance of Alko Diner.

849
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:20.880
I didn't see seasons one or two, so I don't know what that

850
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.360
whole reference was. Alko Diner has
just been a diner that's been reoccurring throughout

851
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:29.199
the series. I think it's the
first time where several characters have met.

852
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:34.440
And evidently, now as we learned
this season, it's a Tamaranean stronghold.

853
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:37.599
Maybe I don't know. Stupid,
I don't get it. Who would write

854
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.840
that into a script? Like why
is a diner a portal to Tamarand it

855
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.559
doesn't make any sense, and like
activated through the jukebox, even I didn't

856
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:52.159
quite fully understand whether it was a
portal or like a little pocket dimension or

857
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:57.280
just like what was going on.
That's one of the things that really frustrates

858
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.840
me about the show is how many
things go on. Blamed Episode six was

859
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:06.280
titled Brother Blood. As they return
to Star Labs, Rachel reveals to Corey

860
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.599
that she also saw her vision as
well as Dick's back in Gotham, the

861
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:15.119
vision being Dick and Corey's daughter holding
a red balloon in the future. At

862
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.880
the Labs, the Titans begin to
devise a plan to stop the Brother Moon

863
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:23.960
ritual. Connor, whose personality becomes
more aggressive and resembling Luther, uses Lex

864
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:30.480
Corpse satellites to reflect the sunlight onto
the Moon, temporarily preventing the ritual from

865
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:36.519
taking place. Later, he notices
a hacking attempt to Unlexcorpse servers and deduces

866
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:40.360
Mother Mayhem's location. Connor goes off
alone to confront Mother Mayhem, but is

867
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:46.159
quickly defeated. Meanwhile, Guard continues
to experience visions and meets a mysterious man

868
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:51.840
who tells him to go to the
Red When he sees the Towers split.

869
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:57.000
Jinks, Rachel, and Corey conduct
a ritual to locate Sanger in an attempt

870
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.840
to teleport him back to Star Labs, but finds Connor captured. The team

871
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.480
decides to enter the Cults tied out
to rescue both Connor and Singer. Mother

872
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:12.039
Mayhem use the singer's memories to manipulate
him into willingly performing the ritual, but

873
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.599
it is cut short by the Titans
entrance. They managed to break the crystal

874
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:22.480
containing Rachel's power, restoring curabilities in
full, but Jinks is stabbed and killed

875
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.559
when attempting to stop from Mother Mayhem. Singer completes the ritual and then Leasha's

876
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:31.559
a scream, causing Gar's vision to
become real. Gar asks to be taken

877
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:36.519
to the Red while the rest of
the team vanishes. Now, honestly,

878
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:40.719
this episode felt like the final episode
to me, or like it should have

879
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:44.719
been. Yeah, the entire team
meeting in the temple to stop the Ultimate

880
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.119
Threat, Yes, I agree.
I get a little bit confused as to

881
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.079
what happened exactly to the team at
the end of this episode. At first,

882
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:54.800
I thought Gar had transported everybody to
the Red, but Brother Blood's scream

883
01:02:55.079 --> 01:03:00.719
somehow teleported the team to another temple
or something like that. I'm not sure

884
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.400
exactly what happened. It was really
weird. I honestly have no idea what

885
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.719
happened either, which was one of
the things that really confused me coming out

886
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.800
of this mid season break, like
did he just teleport them to the future,

887
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.400
and if so, why I did
not understand great cliffhanger though. Yeah,

888
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.880
I was kind of upset the whole
time by how easily Jinks was killed,

889
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.880
because I liked her as a character, and then for her to just

890
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:29.159
go out so unceremoniously once they no
longer needed her, I thought was stupid

891
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:31.239
and cheap. Well, they seem
to imply that she could be brought back,

892
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:37.159
but she never came back outside of
Guard's visit to the Red Yeah.

893
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.480
I'm assuming it's a reincarnation. Could
be wrong. Yeah, We're gonna have

894
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.119
to do a duel with her at
some point. Episode seven was titled Calls

895
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:50.639
Folly, where the Titans reawaken in
the Cults hideout without gar who has disappeared.

896
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.840
They recover a book hidden by Luther
which contains ancient Tamaranean writing. After

897
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:01.400
deciphering get the team learns that the
cult intense to revive Trygon using his Horn

898
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:05.440
of Power. They reached the coordinates
for the horn, but Dick, Corey,

899
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:11.199
and Rachel end up warped into the
hidden town of Call's Folly. While

900
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.599
investigating, Dick deduces that the town's
sheriff, Dave Carter, is in possession

901
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.920
of the horn. He attempts to
convince Sheriff Carter to give him the horn,

902
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.239
but is defeated by his men.
Meanwhile, Tim and Bernard fail to

903
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:29.480
locate the others after they disappear and
decide to stay overnight at a year by

904
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:33.599
hotel. Cunner breaks off from the
team and meets with Luthor's assistant, Mercy

905
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:39.519
Graves, who urges him to avenge
Luthor's death. This episode in the following

906
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:43.280
episode were a big, fat waste
of time. Anything dealing with Call's Folly

907
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.960
and all that stupid shit was stupid
shit slog to get through. It was

908
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:50.360
really bad. I hated these episodes, I agree, And they seem to

909
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:56.440
go on forever too way too long. Yeah, and it was ultimately meaningless,

910
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:00.199
like let's move on next episode exactly. Music, it was just like

911
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:04.119
enough with the music. I'm telling
you to move on to the next episode.

912
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:10.960
In Your Breakdown, episode eight,
it was titled Dick and Carol and

913
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:15.920
Ted and Corey. Dick and Corey
learned from a local resident named Megan and

914
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:20.280
her father Jacob that they were drugged
and had audio receivers injected into their body,

915
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:27.079
which makes them susceptible to radio broadcasts
that slowly wipe their memories. Dick

916
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.039
has himself and Corey record their memories
to use as a trigger, but Corey

917
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:36.360
soon loses control. After recovering the
horn, Singer attempts to kill Rachel,

918
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:42.280
who had been captured, but finds
that every wound he inflicts on her also

919
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.400
affects him. He and mother Mayhem
later drive out of the town. Dick

920
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:50.239
goes to the town's church and rescues
Rachel, then heads toward the nearby radio

921
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:56.719
station and disables the broadcast. At
the same time, Tim and Bernard reunite

922
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.320
with the others at the station.
At Metropolis, Hunter Great Singer in a

923
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:04.079
bar and proposes a partnership. Now, there are a number of things that

924
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:09.320
make zero sense to me in this
episode. One, how did Rachel know

925
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:13.840
that brother Blood harming her would also
harm him? I have no idea.

926
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:18.480
Another thing was Meghan and Jacob.
I'm pretty sure they weren't always staring at

927
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:24.519
people's lips when they were being spoken
to. Like I distinctly know one scene

928
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:29.000
where Jacob the Father's like looking off
into the distance and Megan comes up and

929
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.360
says something and he responds to her
even though he's not looking at her,

930
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.639
and he's like, oh, I
hear music, and I'm like, you're

931
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.360
death. No you don't. Yeah. I was kind of calling bullshit on

932
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.880
the whole deaf thing when they made
that reveal. I just hated the whole

933
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:45.119
mind control mechanism. You know,
they're susceptible to radio broadcasts or something like

934
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.960
that because of something they implanted in
your head. It's so not magical.

935
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.679
This entire subplot could have been cut
from the season and it wouldn't have made

936
01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:56.800
any difference. Yes, and they
never talked about like getting the implatts taken

937
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.960
out of them or anything like that. And the radio state itself, I

938
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.360
was like connected to tubes and wires
of blood with some like old guy connected

939
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:08.199
to it. It was like something
out of a David Lynch film. Was

940
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:13.360
fucking weird. It was all this
stupid dream logic, where like everything that

941
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:15.880
was happening didn't make sense and you
just had to kind of go with it,

942
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.599
and you were just hating it the
entire time, and they were like,

943
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:24.280
in another dimension, what dumb?
The whole thing was dumb. Let's

944
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:29.119
move on. Episode nine was titled
Dude, Where's My Guar? Where Gar

945
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.639
awakens in a cavern on mount to
kill him and Jaro, and he's granted

946
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:38.400
by Dominic Inbawe, a man who
possesses beast like powers. Dominic claims that

947
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.719
his family was killed by the Green
Plague, the same disease that killed Gar's

948
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:47.920
parents, and requests his aid to
destroy laboratory where the disease originated from Dominic

949
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:53.360
and assault the lab and kill the
soldiers guarding it, as well as a

950
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.599
surgeon operating on a dying ape carrying
the plague. The assault turns out to

951
01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:02.239
be a vision from the past shown
by the Red, an interdimensional force that

952
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:08.679
connects all animal life across the multiverse. Dominic reveals to Gar that the lab

953
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:13.599
operated under the supervision of doctor Niles
Calder, the leader of the Doom Patrol,

954
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:17.000
who used the plague to find a
sole survivor in his quest for immortality.

955
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:23.960
Dominic also reveals that Gar is the
destined guardian of the Red and pleads

956
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:28.359
with him to abandon the Titans and
accept his duties. Gar resolves to return

957
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.760
to his friends and taps into the
Red's power to travel the multiverse. He

958
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:38.840
eventually lands in doom manner and falls
unconscious and is later found by Vic Stone

959
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:43.279
aka Cyborg. We talked about this
episode a lot already. This is the

960
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.039
one with all the cameos, which
was cool for like fan service, but

961
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:49.600
the episode itself felt like such an
outlier from the rest of the season,

962
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:53.399
and so I was kind of just
waiting to get back to the main plot.

963
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:57.319
But I felt that way so far
about every single episode in the latter

964
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.920
half of the season. I'm just
waiting to get back to the main plot.

965
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.479
Yeah, you know, episodes seven
and eight, if they slowed down

966
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:09.079
the plot episode nine basically through the
whole thing in reverse, it just completely

967
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.359
annihilated whatever forward momentum the show had. It was too late in the season

968
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:16.039
to be introducing like all these new
concepts that didn't have anything to do with

969
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:20.840
the central conflict, right or anything
else in later episodes. Episode ten was

970
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:25.479
a much better that was titled Game
Over at least the beginning part of the

971
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:30.279
episode, or anything involving the Doom
Patrol. Gar wakes up and is reacquainted

972
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.000
with Larry Traynor and Cliff Steele,
while also being introduced to Vic. He

973
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:39.199
learns that three days have passed since
his arrival and the Doom Patrol have been

974
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:44.359
stuck inside the Manner due to the
Reds influence. Meanwhile, Connor asks Singer

975
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:48.520
to join LexCorp And realize his dream
of becoming a game developer. Singer later

976
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:55.159
meets with Mother Mayhem, proposing to
not awaken Trygon, but upon being rejected,

977
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:59.319
he uses his power to burn Mother
Mayhem to death. The next day,

978
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:04.279
publicly announces his takeover as Lex Corpse
CEO, with Singer joining the company.

979
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:09.760
After learning of the news, Dick
and Rachel meet with an old witch

980
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:15.640
named Helena to perform a ritual severing
Rachel's connection to Singer. Meanwhile, Corey

981
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.920
is unwillingly taken to do Manor by
the Red and is tracked with Gar and

982
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:25.279
the Doom Patrol. After spending time
with them, Corey makes peace with her

983
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:30.439
failure to kill Singer and resolves to
stop him infusing his power into Lexcorps system,

984
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.439
Singer publishes his game Abraxis to the
world, which connects its users to

985
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:40.880
him through a ritual, allowing him
to feed on their energy. With the

986
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.000
Doom Patrol's help, Corey and Gary
turn to Star Labs, where they learned

987
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:49.520
that Bernard has fallen into a coma
after interacting with Abraxis. Team uses the

988
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:55.279
lab system to hack into Lexcorps servers
and delete the game from its database,

989
01:10:55.560 --> 01:11:00.199
with Connor secretly assisting him. As
Singer laments the loss of his game and

990
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.159
his power, mother Mayhem resurrects herself
in the city Morgue. What did you

991
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:10.479
think about this whole game subplot pertaining
to Brother Blood. It was embarrassing.

992
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.319
It was bad. It was embarrassingly
bad. Like all he wanted to do

993
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.560
is be a video game developer,
But like, how was that a plot

994
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:19.640
point? Like who came up with
that idea? Like scrap that idea.

995
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:24.279
Don't go with that because it's weird, and like all of a sudden,

996
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.000
he was like sucking the life force
of people who are playing the video game.

997
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.680
But like you compare that evil plot
to the one that he had in

998
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.560
the Judas Contract, that animated movie
and it's like this is just wrong.

999
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:38.239
Absolutely, it just felt like a
guy living in his mom's basement. He's

1000
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.000
like, Mom, I just want
to be a video game designer. And

1001
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.600
I mean, like nothing against video
game designers, but when you use a

1002
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.479
video game as a plot point in
a show as dark as this, it

1003
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:50.560
does feel out of place. Oh
yeah, no shade to video game designers

1004
01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:54.560
at all. Like I want to
be one, but I just don't want

1005
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:59.600
like badass villains to also have that
nerdy aspiration. Yeah, I still don't

1006
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.720
understand the whole point of bringing Starfire
into the doom patrol manner, the whole

1007
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:09.279
red thing. I don't understand how
from a couple of games of tennis she

1008
01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:14.199
was able to overcome the fact that
she didn't kill Sanker earlier. So stupid.

1009
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:17.079
It was incredibly stupid. And I
don't get how they escaped by blasting

1010
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.399
the roof, Like beast Boy told
Cyborg to like blow the roof but also

1011
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:26.800
aim at negative man and I will
fly up there to help you aim better

1012
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.039
or something like that. What the
fuck happen and you don't even see it

1013
01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.600
happen. That's the thing. It's
like so unbelievably confusing, and you're like

1014
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.960
what and then all of a sudden, Beast Boy and Starfire are in Star

1015
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:41.800
Labs and it's like fuck this.
Yeah. Like at that point I was

1016
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.840
ready for the whole season to be
over. Honestly, I was like,

1017
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.520
I really don't want to watch more
of this inexplicable bullshit. This is legitimately

1018
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.479
where I texted you to be like, I don't know if I could finish

1019
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:56.279
this, dude, maybe we should
do something else for this episode. Luckily,

1020
01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.279
the final episode was better, but
let's get there. Well, I

1021
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:02.600
would say the fine episode and this
next episode, episode eleven, We're both

1022
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:09.479
good. Episode eleven was titled Project
Starfire. Dick asks Tim to return to

1023
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:14.439
Gotham to search for Vinta, an
associate of the organization. After stopping a

1024
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:18.239
few criminals as Robin, Tim encounters
Jason Todd the Red Hood, who offers

1025
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:23.880
him a place to stay. Under
Dick's secret instruction, Jason helps Tim train

1026
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:29.079
and hone his skills before sending him
back to Metropolis. Determined to kill singer

1027
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:32.439
Corey breaks off on her own and
attempts to track down Connor. She and

1028
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:38.479
the rest of the Titans learn from
Mercy that Luther was working on Project Starfire,

1029
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:43.920
a prototype orb like weapon meant to
house and replicate Corey's blue light power.

1030
01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:47.760
To stop Singer, Mother made him
visits Singer and convinces him to resurrect

1031
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:54.079
Trygon in exchange for his powers to
be returned. Connor kidnaps the Confessor and

1032
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.960
forces him to reveal the truth to
Singer, which angers him greatly. Singer

1033
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:03.520
then kills then by drinking his enchanted
blood. As the Titans track down Luther's

1034
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:09.199
hit in vault where the Starfire Orb
is kept, the encounter Connor, who

1035
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:14.159
expressed his remorse and asks to help
them defeat Singer. Corey attempts to charge

1036
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:17.840
the orb with her power, but
Dick stops the process prematurely. Later,

1037
01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:24.199
Connor and Singer confront Mother Mayhem at
the temple and kill her. Connor tries

1038
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:28.239
to use the orb to kill Singer, but it fails as a fully powered

1039
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.560
Singer kills Connor. He then uses
the Horn of Power to summon try Gone,

1040
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:35.399
and by the time he uses the
Horn, I'm like, fucking finally,

1041
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:40.039
this should have happened like four episodes
ago for real, because that's when

1042
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.439
he acquired the horn, and he
just kind of like sat around with it

1043
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:46.439
not doing anything for a while,
trying to release his video game. So

1044
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:51.439
duh, sing out loud makes it
worse, but no, Honestly, Episode

1045
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:55.640
eleven is where I think the show
started to get back on track. I

1046
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.680
really liked again the Robin training stuff. I really liked super Boy being back

1047
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:01.920
with the team and then trying to
find a solution to the central conflict.

1048
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.800
I thought it worked. The final
episode, episode twelve, was titled Titans

1049
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:12.920
Forever. Rachel projects herself into the
temple as try God returns, but Sanger

1050
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:16.000
kills the demon Lord and rips out
his heart, consuming his power in the

1051
01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:21.319
process. The Titans retrieve Connor's body
and later attempt to revive him using a

1052
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:26.960
red Crepton Knite injection. After Tim
reunites with the team, they receive a

1053
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:30.119
call from Bernard, who informs them
that Singer has arrived at Star Labs and

1054
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:35.359
murdered doctor Epsenson and most of the
employees. While searching for the Icarus Lab,

1055
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:41.199
a secret wormhole gateway, Corey deduces
that Singer wants to use it to

1056
01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:45.079
destroy both Tamaran and Earth and seeks
to stop him. Alone. The team

1057
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:50.039
arrives as Star Labs, but Corey, under Singer's influence, breaks off and

1058
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:55.399
wanders to Icarus Lab, where Singer
connects her to the Gateway to power it.

1059
01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.159
The Titans struggled to stop Singer until
a fully recovered Connor arrives and defeats

1060
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:05.399
him while the others disabled the gateway. Corey, afraid of his eventual return,

1061
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:11.079
takes Singer up to the sky and
in Leisha's an energy blast, killing

1062
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:15.359
him for good and seemingly sacrificing herself, though she returned shortly afterward with her

1063
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:21.159
original power restored. As the team
later celebrates, each member announces their departure.

1064
01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:27.079
Gar wishes to return to the Red
to fulfill his duty. Rachel applies

1065
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:30.920
for Community College and Blood Haven.
Tim decides to stay in Metropolis and protect

1066
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:36.239
both Metropolis and Gotham as Robin,
while Connor elects to spend some time with

1067
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:42.000
Superman. In the final scene,
Dick and Corey affirmed their feelings for one

1068
01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:45.760
another. This is a solid episode. I thought. I liked the action

1069
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.840
in it. I thought the resolution
was quite satisfying, and the story didn't

1070
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:53.399
have as much of the ridiculousness that
the previous episodes did. Yeah, I

1071
01:16:53.479 --> 01:16:59.279
agree that it was satisfying, with
the exception of Starfire surviving that blast that

1072
01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:03.359
she was phacide to sacrifice herself in
that felt very cheap. It still feels

1073
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:08.039
very cheap. But I'm also conflicted
because I like the fact that Dick and

1074
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:12.279
Corey get together in the end.
So did the red cryptonite injection end up

1075
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.239
working on Connor? Is that what
happened there? I have no idea.

1076
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.079
I don't know if it was,
you know, just Crypto being close.

1077
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.079
I don't know if it was the
red kryptonite injection. I have no idea

1078
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:25.680
how that would actually work. Maybe
it was just a way to get like

1079
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:29.680
the adrenaline and stuff into his system. I have no idea. Also,

1080
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:31.479
it could just be that, like
he just needed to wait for a sunlight

1081
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.439
to restore his heartbeat, kind of
like you know, how Superman came back

1082
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:38.800
to life after being killed by Doomsday. It could have been all of the

1083
01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:43.079
above. I kind of wish that
they had mentioned the wormhole thing earlier in

1084
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:47.960
the plot somewhere, because it ended
up being so essential to Brother Blood's final

1085
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:53.039
plan of destroying both Earth and Tamarin. But it was kind of a neat

1086
01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.439
concept at the very least sort of. I'm kind of confused how it still

1087
01:17:56.439 --> 01:18:00.239
would have worked with Earth slamming Anti
Tamarin through that tiny portal, but I

1088
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.800
don't know. It's science fiction.
We get to see Superman's boots at the

1089
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:08.760
very end, as Connor learns how
to fly takes flying lessons from Superman.

1090
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:13.119
Yeah, it was that like a
flash forward, because the final shot actually

1091
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.319
of the series was also super Boy
flying through the air. Yeah with hair,

1092
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:18.279
So yeah, I think it was
a flash forward to a few months

1093
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:23.920
later. How do your feelings about
how this season went compare to your feelings

1094
01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:27.560
on the series as a whole.
That's a good question. I would say

1095
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:31.640
that as a whole, I do
like this series. Most of it is

1096
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:36.279
good. Season three is still my
favorite, and I would say that even

1097
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:42.359
if you haven't started the series yet, I would recommend people watching it because

1098
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.239
even though there was a midpoint speed
bump in this final season, by the

1099
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:53.119
end it's satisfying enough that I think
people cannon should watch it. It's not

1100
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:56.800
the greatest television, you know,
it's not quite at the level of Doom

1101
01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.239
Patrol, But if you like the
characters, I think you would like this

1102
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.199
show. I would only recommend Titans. I think if you're a fan of

1103
01:19:03.239 --> 01:19:10.159
the main characters and if you're just
looking for fun superhero action and special effects.

1104
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:13.880
I think if you're looking for a
great story, there are so many

1105
01:19:13.920 --> 01:19:16.319
better shows out there for you.
But when it comes to superhero action,

1106
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.159
I think Titans excels in that regard. Yeah, I mean, the story

1107
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:26.199
is not anything profound. I do
think it has heart, though I do

1108
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:30.600
think that's better evidenced in previous seasons. That said, it's nice to know

1109
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:34.199
how these characters end up, and
that's really the main reason for watching this

1110
01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:39.760
final season when it comes down to
it. Despite the fun action and strong

1111
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:45.600
performances from its cast, this season's
tonal inconsistency and weak villain makes it difficult

1112
01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:49.880
to get to the series conclusion.
But once you do, making the journey

1113
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:54.640
from you know, episode one season
one ultimately is worth it. I would

1114
01:19:54.680 --> 01:20:00.399
say I'm giving this season three out
of five stars a Fresh rating, even

1115
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:04.039
though it's the lowest Fresh rating I
could give it. I would probably go

1116
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:09.880
closer to two point five stars and
not recommend it. But that's just me

1117
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.239
speaking as a Marvel fan. I
think a lot of DC fans would probably

1118
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:15.640
view this as more of a three
out of five, like you're saying,

1119
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:20.920
it is the most minimal of recommendations, but a recommendation nonetheless, And that's

1120
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:25.119
the kind of referral that I like
to hear to make me rushing to go

1121
01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:30.119
see a show. But that does
it for this review. Let us know

1122
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:32.720
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1124
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1134
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:21.039
we're going to find out who would
win in a fight between Queen Bee and

1135
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:27.000
Spider Woman. That's the Jessica Drew
version of Spiderwoman leading up to our review

1136
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.319
of Spider Man Across the Spider Verse, So definitely tune in for that if

1137
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.359
you want to learn more about those
characters and get a bit of a backstory

1138
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:38.600
on Spiderwoman before her appearance in that
animated film. But that does it for

1139
01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:41.920
this episode. We want to give
a big thanks to our executive producers Ken

1140
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:45.439
Johnson, John Stoski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcolm mage Mouth and Gian Brandon

1141
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:50.399
Estgard, Nathaniel Wagner, le Va
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1142
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:56.479
Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Adam Spees, and Zach Wilder for helping make this

1143
01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:00.399
podcast possible. And we'll talk to
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1144
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:01.800
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