Weather Wizard vs Absorbing Man

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Hi, and welcome to the Dynamic
Dual Podcast, a weekly show where we

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review superhero films and debate the superiority
between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters

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and stat based battle simulations. I'm
Marvelous Joe and I'm his twin brother Johnny

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DC. And in this episode,
we're going to find out who would win

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in a fight between the Flash villain
Weather Wizard and the Hulk Slash thor villain

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the Absorbing Man. Basically, it's
a guy who can control the elements versus

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a guy who can become the elements. Should be pretty interesting. Yeah,

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I feel like I'm gonna have to
play with some like forty chess and this

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speculation, just thinking like three steps
ahead. I live my whole life that

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way, So you know, I'm
ready for this. I'm ready. We're

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gonna find out who's gonna win later
on this episode. Before that, we're

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going to break down the comic book
movie news to come out this past week,

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including the awesome news that Black Panther
Wolkonda Forever has won an Academy Award

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for Best Costume Design. We also
got amazing, incredible news that John Burnthall

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will be returning as Braincastle, the
Punisher for the Daredevil Born Against series on

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Disney Plus All good Things really can't
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A new prize as an award Marvel
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the Dynamic Duelno Prize is a digital
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in our email newsletter for the person
that we feel gave the best answer to

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our question of the week. Last
week's question was who has been the most

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perfectly cast villain in Marvel and DC
films and why? We've got a lot

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of answers here. Let's go ahead
and run down the honorable mentions as well

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as the No Prize winner. Our
first honorable mention goes to Corey Wootton,

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who said, Hey, guys,
Corey Warton again still getting caught up the

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most perfectly cast villain. Several several
good ones. Several good ones. I

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would have to go with m Norman
Osbourne Slash, the Green Goblin and the

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original Spider Man William Dafotum. Yeah, I think that's the best. Yeah.

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I think I said this before in
our Spider Man review. I think

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the reason William Dafoe was so well
cast in the role of Green Goblin in

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the Spider Man movie because the dude
looks like a freaking goblin. Damn he

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was look at him. You know, he has like just those creepy features

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that makes him a great villain,
but it also makes him an interesting protagonist

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in those films where he shows up
as the hero. You know, for

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a long time fans have wanted him
to play the Joker, which I think

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would be fantastic casting. But you
also got to look as performance as Green

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Goblin as pretty iconic. And you
know that was even more established when he

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returned to the role for the recent
Spider Man No Way Home film. Oh

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yeah, that was epic. He
still got it after all those years.

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He was like better than ever for
sure. Great answer, Corey Wutin.

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Our next honorable mention goes to Michael
who said, hey, fellows, it's

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Michael. I think the best cast
villain in a Marvel NDC movie would be

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Heath Ledger if the role hadn't actually
killed him. So since we don't get

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to experience anymore of Heath Ledger,
I'm going to say it was Michael B.

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Jordan because kill Monger was the perfect
villain. He was relatable, he

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was understandable, his motivations were perfect. He was and it would have done

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that if Michael B. Jordan hen
portrayed him so perfectly, So it's definitely

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him. Yeah. I never really
liked kill Munger from the comics as a

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character. I thought he was okay, definitely not one of Black Panther's more

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interesting villains. But what the first
Black Panther film did was make him entirely

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interesting. And I think that has
to do with Michael B. Jordan's performance

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as Eric Killmonger and the writing.
I think the film really touched on a

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pulse regarding grace relations in society during
the time and still ongoing. So I

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think that's the primary reason why his
characters seemed to resonate throughout the film going

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audiences. Well, yeah, they
made him feel a lot like Magneto exactly.

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Yeah, like Malcolm x right,
great role, great performance. Our

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next honorable mention goes to Kolobe Henches, who said, hey boys, Kolbe

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Henches, I do not want to
hear about the Jokers or the Magnetos.

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No, no, no. The
most perfectly cast villain has been Alfred Molina's

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Doctor Rock of Us. He knocked
that out of the park. So another

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Spider Man villain here. You know, if you look at Doctor Octopus from

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the comics, especially in his early
days, he was just a big,

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fat nerd, you know, And
they could have gotten many different ways with

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this Doctor Octopus role for the Spider
Man two movie. But in casting Alfred

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Molina in the role of docc they
got this guy who was like a believable

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scientist and nerd and everything like that. But he was also a badass.

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Oh yeah. And you know,
Alfred Molina is a classically trained actor.

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He's not someone you typically think of
as being cool. But I'll be damned

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if doc Ock was not really cool
in Spider Man two. A lot of

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that has to do with the look. And yeah, like you mentioned,

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the performance, it was just phenomenal. I totally believed that Alfred Molina was

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brilliant and menacing and kind of like
how William Dafoe reprised his role in twenty

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twenty one Spider Man No Way Home. Alfred Molina again proved that after all

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this time, he still got it. I think he did really well revisiting

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the role. Great answer, Colby. We want to give a quick shout

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out to Kelvin John Dillomer, said
Matt Lamb, Michael Harold, and Scott

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Camacho for taking the time to visit
our website and record an answer, which

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if you're a Patreon member you could
listen to on our discord server and discuss

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with us. But the winner of
this week's no Prize is Mickey Mattangian who

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said, Hey, what's up,
guys? Is Mickey And the DC villain

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that has been cast to perfection is
Keith Ledger as the Joker. There's not

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much more I can say about it
that isn't unique, but I will add

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that he is the standard for live
action Jokers in the same way that Christopher

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Reeve is the standard for live action
Superman. That like any Superman or Joker

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before or after them are compared to, Joker is the greatest conk Book villain

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of all times. So of course
this answer was going to get the win

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because he was also perfectly cast in
Heath Ledger in the movie of the Dark

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Night. Of course, there have
been many actors to successfully play the role

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as the Joker, including Caesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Joaquin Phoenix, Mark

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Hamill, but Heath Ledger is a
standout for just how far he took method

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acting in his performance. It totally
shows and it's totally great. Yeah,

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a lot of people mentioned Mark Hamill
in their response, but we were really

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looking for a live action performance.
Voice acting is a completely different game.

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We agree that Mark Hamill is the
perfect Joker voice. But I think down

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the line will be doing a good
Question of the Week asking for your favorite

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voice performances. But great answer,
MIGGI, congrats again on winning this week's

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no prize. If you the listener
want to shout out winning you wrote no

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Prize, stay tuned to later on
this episode when we'll be asking another question

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of the week. And now that
that's done, odd to the news.

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All right, this past Sunday,
we got awesome news. Marvel Studios one

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another Oscar. This makes it the
fourth Oscar win for the MCU, and

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DC came away with zero oscars if
I remember correctly, which makes this news

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all the more sweeter. Oscars are
so lame, like they're so irreb nowadays

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ridiculous. However, it would not
be saying that if The Batman won any

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awards, which it didn't. By
the way, Black Panther Will Conda Forever

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won for Best Costume Design. Ruth
E. Carter accepted the award as the

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costume designer for that film, and
she made history as the first black woman

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to win two Oscars ever, and
she was the first to win for both

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an original film and its sequel.
So she's on a roll here. I'm

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really excited that she's going to be
designing the costumes for the upcoming Blade movie

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starring Mahashala Ali. I think that
movie is going to have some dope ass

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costumes. Congrats to her and to
the MCU in general, and to Marvel

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fans. You did it, you
did it. Yeah, she set do

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anything. I'm just gonna say that
The Batman was snubbed not only for Best

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Original Score and Best Adapted Screenplay,
but also from by the fucking Best Picture,

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because that was a fantastic film should
have been nominated in more categories.

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You're lucky it wasn't, because it
totally would have won. I think it

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didn't get nominated for those things because
the movie was too boring and too long.

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Oh I'm sorry. It wasn't like
candy coated and just full of explosions

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every five seconds like a kiddy Marvel
cartoon movie. Yeah, more mature attention

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spans apparently, and bigger bladders,
just huge ass bladders apparently. Hell yeah.

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Overall, this makes the sixth Oscar
win for Marvel, the previous wins

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being for the First Black Panther film, which one Best Costume Design, Best

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Original Score, and Best Production Design. Prior to that, Spider Man two

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one for Best Visual Effects, and
Into the Spider Verse and a Big Hero

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six both one Best Animated Feature.
I mean, but does Big Hero six

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really count? I feel like it
shouldn't count. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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an adaptation of a Marvel comic book, but like barely is the comic book

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named Big Hero six. It's Big
Hero six in name only. It's a

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loose adaptation, sure, but it's
still an adaptation. It hurts me to

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say that with Marvel's sixth Oscar That
makes us tied in terms of the amount

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of oscars each comic book company has, because DC has six as well.

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We won two for The Joker for
Best Actor and Best Original Score, We

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got two for The Dark Night,
Best Supporting Actor and Best Achievement and Sound

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Editing, Superman the Richard Donner Film
one for Visual Effects, and Batman eighty

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nine one for Art Direction. So
it looks like next year will be the

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tiebreaker when The Craven the Hunter film
wins Best Picture. That was good.

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Well, there's a high likelihood that
the Spider Verse sequel will win Best Animated

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Feature again. Yeah, I mean, but there's also like the Flash winning

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Best Picture. That's not gonna happen. You don't. Oh, they don't

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want Ezra Miller on the red carpet. Okay, it come dressed as like

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a big peacock platypus or something and
start choking people out. She's we'll see,

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we'll see. But congrats again to
Ruth E. Carter and Black Panther

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Wakonda Forever totally deserved. I will
admit that. Yeah, I mean,

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the film did have amazing costumes.
Yeah, especially liked Sure He's Black Panther

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costume you know, Naybour's outfit was
largely skin but like the jewelry design that

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she made for the telecons and everything
I thought was top notcho It was really

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cool. Yeah, the headdress is
just everything about all of the costuming was

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fantastic. But that brings us to
our question of the week. Which superhero

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costume has been the best in all
of Marvel and DC live action films and

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shows? And why? Again?
Just limit your answers to superhero costumes,

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March eighteenth. In other Marvel news,

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we learned this past week that John
Burnthall is returning as the punisher for Daredevil

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Born Again on Disney Plus. John
Burnthall is the actor who portrayed Frank Castle,

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the Punisher in Daredevil's season two,
and he got two seasons of his

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own show. We reviewed all of
those on this podcast. They were all

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great, with John Burnthall's performance really
standing out as a highlight out of all

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the Punisher actors. He's really managed
to capture that gruff sadness and like underlying

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rage that exists within the character.
He's a fantastic actor, and it's just

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so relieving that he coming back as
the character. Yeah, because a lot

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of characters from the Netflix shows are
not returning, such as Foggy Nelson and

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Karen Paige Yeah right, Yeah,
played by Elden Henson and debrah Ann Wall

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respectively. That was heartbreaking to hear
because I thought both actors did a tremendous

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job in their roles as Foggy Nelson
and Karen Page. I'm not sure why

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Marvel isn't bringing those guys back for
this first season of Born Again. It's

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possible that they're just going in a
completely different direction with the character of Matt

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Murdock. But we've gotten other reports, like there's a rumor going around that

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Jeno Ortega has been cast in that
series and people are saying that she's gonna

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play White Tiger or something like that, which I don't know if I believe,

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but it would be extremely cool if
that were to happen. I'm wondering

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if maybe they didn't bring back Karen
Page for this first season because Daredevil already

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kind of has a romantic interest in
Jennifer Walters she Hulk, which we first

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got to see in the first season
of the She Hulk Attorney at Law television

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series. A lot of people got
excited when the news came out that John

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Burnthall was returning against The Punisher,
but honestly, like what they've done with

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The Kingpin and Daredevil on Disney Plus, I am not looking forward to seeing

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what they do with The Punisher.
Oh that's that could be interesting. Although

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you know, I'll say that I
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being like a little bit overly powered
on the Hawkeye television show, I don't

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think Charlie Cox was all that different
in the She Hulk show than he was

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in his own Daredevil show. I
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was different, but I don't think
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just feel like it's going to be
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in the past. Hopefully not,
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see him in more Punisher action than
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because admittedly Punisher seasons Wanted two were
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the kind of over the top violence. So we get to see in

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the comic books month to month.
Yeah, we're definitely not getting that here.

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You don't know. I mean,
you know they're producer mature content for

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Disney Plus. Now, Oh wait, is this gonna be a TVMA that

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I don't know? But I mean
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Plus right now, which we're definitely
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So we'll see. I'm wondering now
if they're going to bring back Kristin Ritter

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as Jessica Jones and Mike Coulter as
Luke Cage. I'd like to see both

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of those actors return. Finn Jones
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if you wanted to show up as
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of Iron Fist, I think that
would be pretty cool. But here's hoping

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that everything comes out awesome for this
Born Again series. It's supposed to come

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out next year allegedly, so I
can't wait to see it. But I

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think that does for all the comic
book movie news for this episode. So

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let's go ahead and move into our
main events, where we find out who

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would win in a fight between the
Weather Wizard and the Absorbing Man. All

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Right, Weather Wizard versus Absorbing In
As I mentioned at the top of this

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episode, it's a guy who can
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become the elements, which should be
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of course, is in lead up
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which will be a team duel between
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Mutants. Yeah, Weather Wizard being
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if I'm being one hundred percent transparent, it was pretty hard coming up with

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a match for the Weather Wizard.
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probably would have been Storm from the
X Men, but of course we pit

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her previously in a duel against Black
Lightning. Right, and I had a

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really hard time coming up with an
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was pretty happy when we and the
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in an ideal world we would have
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who previously went up in a duel
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a horrible pairing. I think we
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of look like composite characters. They
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but like powers levels wise, they
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don't repeat characters in dual episodes,
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really just educating people on the characters, and there's really no need to do

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that twice, we ended up with
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it, honestly. Yeah. At
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the fight will go should be interesting
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let's go ahead and turn to our
sentient dual simulator. Alfred Jarvis nine thousand

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AJ tell our listeners how you go
about determining a winner in our dual matchups?

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Yes, of course, sir.
The way I determine a winner between

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the contestants is by running one thousand
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A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic
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In this case, I randomize the
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way to simulate the many variables that
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are based on the official Marvel power
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are extrapolated. Additional stack categories are
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potential, versatility, and perception in
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simulation. The results of the one
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each character. The contestant with the
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they have a higher probability to win
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neither character should win one hundred percent
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stories have shown that there's even a
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the confidence rate of my method falls
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established in the source material. My
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Feats are not the sole consideration,
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the winner. Sex Jeane eight thousand. Before we run the simulations, though,

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we like to break down each characterist, histories and abilities before improvising a

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scenario on how we imagine one of
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for beat and I believe it's your
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let me go ahead and tell you
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Carl Creole was born in the Bronx
Borough of New York City. His

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mother died when he was just a
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custody of his physically abusive father.
When Carl was finally old enough to fight

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back against his dad at the age
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their house and forced to live on
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the gym, he discovered a talent
for boxing and began training while also breaking

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into houses and cars to get by. Eventually, he began a career as

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a professional boxer, where he would
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earning the nickname Crusher Creole. His
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spot as an enforcer for the criminal
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eventually he was arrested and imprisoned for
aggravated assault. While in prison, Carl

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was discovered by the Asgardian god of
miss Chief Loki, whom you can learn

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more about in our Aris versus Loki
dual episode. Looking for a brute to

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imbue with incredible power to take on
his brother Thor, Loki slipped a magic

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potion into Karl's water, granting the
inmate the ability to manifest the physical properties

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of anything he touched. Using this
power to turn his form into steal,

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Carla escaped prison and hid in a
swamp, where Thor eventually found him.

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The two battled to a standstill as
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hammer Muelner, But in their second
encounter, Thor got Karl to absorb and

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take on a gaseous state, and
Karl dissipated into the atmosphere. You can

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learn more about Thor, the god
of Thunder, in our Wonder Woman versus

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Thor dual episode. Eventually, Loki
reconstituted Karl and brought him to Asgard to

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aid the god of Mischief in taking
over the realm Maternal Karl got cocky during

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their attempt at coup however, and
challenged Odin himself, the ruler of the

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s Guardians, who simply dispatched Karl
into base. After a time floating out

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there, he managed to hitch a
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on Earth, where he encountered the
Hulk and the two fought. Carl stood

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up to the Green Hero by absorbing
the Hulk's strength, but lost it when

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he made contact with the Hulk as
he was transforming back into Bruce Banner,

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and he got himself crushed under a
boulder he was holding. Loki freed Carl

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to take on Thor again on several
occasions, but Thor tricked him into absorbing

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water at one point, and later
he got him to absorb a cardboard replica

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of Mulner. Wait, so absorbing
man can't hold liquid form. He can,

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but he has to concentrate. Later, when going up against the Hulk

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again, Karl lost when taking on
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Tired of fighting and losing, Carl
exiled himself to Easter Island in the middle

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of the Pacific Ocean. When the
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Carl tried to absorb the whole island
itself, becoming gargantuan, but losing

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his identity along the way as he
slowly became the island. After regaining his

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sense of self and returning to his
normal form, he came back to the

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US ready for vengeance. It wasn't
long, though, until Carl was summoned,

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alongside a host of Earth's heroes and
villains by the all powerful Beyonder to

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take part in a grand experiment between
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You could learn more about this event
in our Doctor Manhattan versus Molecule Man dual

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episode. But during his time on
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Karl met and fell in love with
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Upon their return to Earth, the
two became a couple and were recruited into

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the supervillain team called the Masters of
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they were part of that nefarious group
for a while, they still took the

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time to go on their own small
heist together, battling the likes of Spider

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Man and Aunt Man of the Wasp
along the way. Carl and Titania eventually

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got married and settled down retiring from
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came down with cancer and the couple
fell on hard times. Carl became highly

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addicted to painkillers and had to resort
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Again. One of Karl's associate mobsters
unwittingly tricked him into turning himself into

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cocaine and then sold his cocaine form
around New York City, causing anyone who

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snorted him to gain a portion of
his power. What Eventually, Karl reconstituted

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himself in the sewers and went after
the Owl for revenge, but Spider Man

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got him to absorb to explosively reactive
chemicals to stop him. Later, when

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Odin's brother, the God of Fear, known as the Serpent, was released,

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he sent seven mystical warhammers to Earth
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After Titania discovered the Hammer of Skerne, she came under the control of the

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Breaker of Men's spirit, and she
led her husband Karl to another hammer possessed

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by Gray Thought, the Breaker of
Wills. Alongside Juggernaut, Atuma, Gray

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Gargoyle, Thing, and Hulk,
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collectively called the Worthy. When Thor
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Serpent, the Worthy's hammers were relinquished, and the spirit of gray Thought left

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Carl. Eventually, he and Titania
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and Carl was apprehended and forced to
join a clandestine US military organization called Shadow

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Base, which was tasked with bringing
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at the base where Bruce Banner's Gamma
bamb was originally detonated, Karl absorbed most

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of the radiation from Hulk's body,
as well as all the ambient radiation at

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the test site. Inadvertently, he
also absorbed the corruption of the One below

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All, a personification of destruction and
hate who had been manipulating Hulk at the

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time. After getting shunted to the
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Carl surrendered his Gamma radiation that he
absorbed back into the Hulk so that the

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Hulk could take down the One below
All. In the aftermath, Carl and

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Titania joined Gamma Flight, other organization
tasked with locating the Hulk and handling other

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Gamma related issues. Such as stopping
the rogue government agency that was experimenting with

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gamma radiation on a small town.
And of course you can learn more about

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the Hulk in our Doomsday versus Hulk
dual episode that's a for his history.

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Powers wise, the absorbing man can
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including animate and inanimate matter, and
even types of energy. His entire

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body becomes composed of what he comes
into contact with, and he retains his

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normal sentience via the magical nature of
his powers. When absorbing the properties of

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organic beings, he could take on
their physical traits such as enhance strength,

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agility, or speed, which is
how he can go toe to toe with

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the Hulk or thor If absorbing man
concentrates while absorbing objects with greater mass than

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himself, he can increase his own
mass to become of comparable size and density,

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such as becoming as tall as a
skyscraper if he absorbs a skyscraper,

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okay, basically, with enough concentration, his body not only takes on the

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physical traits of things, but also
their appearance. In a large part,

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I guess it's magic. I guess
there's no real science behind it. Sure

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when transmuting himself into non solid forms
of matter or energy, absorbing Man has

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to concentrate on retaining his human form, otherwise he'll dissipate. If and when

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he has ever dispersed, he can
reconstitute his body over time, sometimes as

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quickly as a matter of minutes.
Once he discards a form, he has

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to make contact with that matter or
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Absorbing Man's power is highly unstable,
however, and he can inadvertently take

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on the physical properties of things he
doesn't mean to by coming into contact with

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them by surprise. The ball and
chain that was shackled to him in prison

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can also morph with him, along
with anything he was wearing at the time

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he drank Loki's magic potion. He's
adept at using his ball and chain as

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a flail weapon, and he's very
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boxing. And that's the absorbing man. What is his ball and chain made

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of, normally iron, and so
he can basically turn into an iron form

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whenever he wants to, just by
taking on the properties of his iron ball

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and chain in its regular state.
Good. I like iron, That's what

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I want to hear, no,
you don't. You don't like iron.

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I love iron. Okay, you'll
see, fucking liar. Well, let

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me tell you about the DC character
in this fight, the weather Wizard.

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Now, Mark Martin and his brother
Clyde were born brilliant, though Mark always

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seemed to come up short of his
brother's intelligence. While Clyde grew to be

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a renowned scientist, Mark turned to
a life of crime. After being arrested

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for his actions, Mark eskipped custody
well being transported to tri State prison.

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Having nowhere to go but to his
brother, Clyde's home, Mark arrived to

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find his brother dead from a heart
attack. And though it has been rumored

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amongst the criminal underworld that Mark killed
his brother, it's unclear as to whether

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Mark spread those rumors himself to bolster
his notoriety. Mark discovered in Clyde's home

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that his brother had been experimenting with
yolick energy and had discovered how to control

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the weather. What is yolick energy? Yolick yeol It's essentially a fancy way

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of saying wind energy, all right. Now. Stealing his brother's notes,

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Mark used his own ingenuity to craft
a rod or wand to harness the energy

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necessary to manipulate the weather in his
vicinity, and he began a new criminal

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career as the costume to villain Weather
Wizard. After a revenge plot to kill

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the police officers that arrested him was
foiled by the Flash, Mark became a

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recurring villain of the Hero who you
can learn more about in our Flash Versus

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Quicksilver episode. After several defeats,
Mark successfully created a weather control station in

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Goldville, Wyoming, to control the
weather on a larger scale, turning the

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00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.039
large county of Oakley into a frozen
wasteland cut off from the rest of the

402
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.839
country, intending to hold the county's
nice weather for ransom and use the money

403
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.480
to build more weather stations across the
country. His plan was eventually thwarted by

404
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.079
Kid Flash and Elongated Man. Not
long after, Mark traveled to Gotham City,

405
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.559
believing the powerless Batman would be unable
to stop him, though he was

406
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:29.079
proven wrong. While incarcerated afterward,
Mark joined up with other Flash villains to

407
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.160
form a villains club known as the
Rogues. Mark reformed and retired for a

408
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.279
short time after the Flash's death.
During the Crisis on Infinite Earth's event,

409
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.720
though he rejoined the Rogues later in
planting bombs across the country as they were

410
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.079
manipulated by the demon Neuron in helping
him emerge fully powered from hell, Mark

411
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:53.079
died in the ordeal, though the
Flash managed to trick Nearon into returning Mark

412
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.000
and the other Rogues who died back
to life. The Rogues disbanded for a

413
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:03.119
time after the Underworld unleashed, until
the Flash villain Blacksmith formed her own version

414
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.359
of the team, of which Mark
became a member. It was through Blacksmith

415
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.759
that Mark learned that he had a
son named Josh from a one night stand

416
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.960
with a Keystone police officer. His
son, Josh, he learned, was

417
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.680
born with the innate met human ability
to control the weather. Mark attempted to

418
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:25.519
kidnap Josh and kill and dissect him
to gain insight on how he could also

419
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.039
control the weather without his wand,
but after looking into his son's eyes and

420
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.720
seeing his brother Clyde's, he wasn't
able to go through with it. Blacksmith's

421
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:40.799
Rogues team eventually disbanded and the original
group joined together once again, including Mark.

422
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.559
The Rogues were approached by the villain
Inertia, a clone of bart Allen

423
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.000
aka Impulse from the Future, with
a plan to kill the Flash, who,

424
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:53.200
unbeknownst to the rogues at the time, was the slightly older version of

425
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.920
bart Allen. You can learn more
about bart in our Impulse Versus Speed episode.

426
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:04.720
Inertia formed to Mark that he was
actually a metahuman with weather manipulation powers

427
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.920
who used his wand simply as a
psychological crutch. After breaking Mark's wand,

428
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.480
Inertia used thirtieth century psychiatry techniques to
break down Mark's mental blocks and allow him

429
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:20.599
to control the weather without the wand, though he still liked to hold the

430
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:24.240
wand. Mark and the rogues were
successful in killing the Flash, though he

431
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:29.400
and the others regretted doing so when
they realized it was the young bart Allen,

432
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.880
Mark in particular because he was reminded
of his son. Feeling betrayed,

433
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.519
Mark and the rogues eventually went after
Inertia in revenge. Before they could,

434
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:43.319
however, the villain Libra of the
secret Society of Supervillains, of which Inertia

435
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.200
was a member, attempted to recruit
the rogues to their cause, though the

436
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:52.960
rogues rejected this offer. In a
retaliation, Libra kidnapped Mark's son, Josh,

437
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.000
and Thrand to kill him. Mark
tried to bluff, saying he killed

438
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.240
his brother Clyde and didn't care if
his son died as well. Inertia called

439
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.400
Mark's bluff and killed Josh in front
of him, at which point Mark and

440
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.759
the other rogues killed Inertia, getting
their revenge. In post flashpoint continuity,

441
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:16.240
Mark's history remained largely intact, though
his name was changed to Marco Martin and

442
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:22.440
his brother became Claudio, both heirs
within a Latino crime family, and Claudio's

443
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.119
wife, Elsa was revealed as the
one who murdered Marco's brother. Marco tried

444
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.599
to kill Elsa in a revenge while
also committing suicide by holding on to her

445
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:36.480
while summoning lightning to hit them both, though Marco survived, and that's largely

446
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.279
his history up to this point.
Powers Wise, the weather wizard, is

447
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:45.519
able to project an energy that can
create any atmospheric or weather effect over a

448
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.519
small area for a limited period of
time. He can create rain, hail,

449
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.599
snow, fog, smog, ice, hurricane force, winds, tornadoes,

450
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.720
and lightning, especially through wind manipulation. He's able to fly, and

451
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.839
he can create weather effects indoors as
well as outdoors. He used to have

452
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.599
a mental connection to his wand,
which he was able to use to manipulate

453
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.159
the weather even when he was a
holding game, though he no longer needs

454
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.880
the wand for his power. The
wind itself is now more of a long

455
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:21.039
rod which he can use offensively like
a bowstaff, or to channel his lightning

456
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.760
and powers. Lastly, he has
a genius level intellect, particularly when it

457
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.880
comes to mechanical engineering and meteorology,
and that's weather. Wizard does use his

458
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.519
bowstaff wand like a martial artist.
I've not seen him do that, but

459
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.760
he could use it as a weapon. He's not twirling it around like Donna

460
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.320
Tello or anything like that, or
just like a long club. The way

461
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.760
I'm choosing to kind of understand his
power set is basically storm, but less

462
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.119
cool and with a big stick with
which he's compensating for something. So there

463
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.840
you go. All right, Well, now that we've got their histories and

464
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.199
abilities out of the way, let's
speculate on how one of the one thousand

465
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.599
simulated matches will go. The winner
is determined by simulations, not this speculation,

466
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.719
but it's fun to imagine how this
fight could play out Alfred Jarvis nine

467
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.719
thousand. What are the rules of
our speculation? Well, I should say

468
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.519
there are no rules other than the
characters have no prior knowledge of the other

469
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.239
going into the fight. All they
are aware of starting out is that the

470
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.199
other character is a threat that needs
to be eliminated. For the speculation,

471
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:28.880
the contestants will begin approximately fifty meters
apart in a nondescript environment that will have

472
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.199
no bearing on the match itself,
as no environmental statistics are considered in my

473
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.000
simulations. The contestants must earn victory
on their own merit. All right,

474
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.400
then let's get into it. Weather
Wizard and the absorbing Man meet on the

475
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:45.440
battlefield. Who goes first? I
think weather Wizard would go first because he

476
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:52.159
has longer range attacks than absorbing Man. How even long is absorbing Man small

477
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.360
and chain? I would say it's
depicted as being probably like a couple of

478
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.639
yards or meters at max. Not
too long. Okay, So weather Wizard

479
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.000
starts by raising his staff in the
air and summoning like a cover of dark,

480
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.360
stormy clouds above the battlefield. Right, and he's gonna twirl his staff

481
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.719
and it's gonna send over a hurricane
force gust of wind right at Absorbing Man,

482
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.920
just sending him tumbling backward. Okay, Well, as Absorbing Man feels

483
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.760
this wind force pushing him over,
he's gonna grab his ball and chain weapon,

484
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.039
which is made out of iron,
and he's gonna take on the properties

485
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.519
of that metal, so the wind
isn't gonna knock him down when he's made

486
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:36.360
out of iron, and he's gonna
charge toward Weather Wizard through this hurricane force

487
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.719
wind and he's gonna swing the ball
and chain at him, just clocking Weather

488
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.639
Wizard right in the head and pretty
much killing him on the spot. Yeah.

489
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.480
I mean, like it's gonna take
forever for Absorbing Man to each other

490
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.360
Wizard through that wind, and like
through how slow his iron form is probably

491
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.320
going to be. So as he's
like slowly moving towards him, Weather Wizard's

492
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.559
gonna summon like a small dark cloud
directly or Absorbing Man, and that's just

493
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.760
gonna unleash like a torrent of rain
that just starts causing him to rust in

494
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:10.679
his iron form. Rust like it's
not the Tin Man from Wizard of Oz

495
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.840
over here. Okay, you know, Absorbing Man can move in any form,

496
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.800
So if he turns to rust,
then he's just now rust man and

497
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.760
Whether Wizard is gonna get tetnas.
So good job with that, because by

498
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:29.320
the time he reaches weather Wizard,
he's fully rusted. But that's not going

499
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.559
to stop him from knocking Whether Wizard's
wand out of his hand using his ball

500
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.079
and chain, and that rusty chain
is gonna slice Weather Wizard's hand open.

501
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.320
All right, how long does it
take for lockjaw to set in with tetanus?

502
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.360
A couple of days? I think, Well, that's yeah, he's

503
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.280
gonna be fine. That's plenty of
time, damn it. All right,

504
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.519
So Weather Wizard he's gonna watch some
distance between him and absorbing Man, so

505
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.400
like he doesn't need his wand to
use his powers. So Weather Wizard is

506
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.920
going to generate a tornado around him
that's gonna lift him into the sky while

507
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.719
absorbing Man. You know, he's
probably trying his hardest just to hold onto

508
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.480
his ball and chain before it flies
away. No, no, no,

509
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.679
absorbing Man is gonna absorb the tornado. What he's done that to Thor before.

510
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:17.159
So he takes on this wind form
where he's like slightly gaseous and mostly

511
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.719
transparent with his lower body looking like
a small whirlwind, and in his tornado

512
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.480
form, Absorbing Man's gonna spin his
ball and chain around his head and he's

513
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.320
going to create a counter tornado spinning
the opposite direction that crashes into and cancels

514
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.960
out Weather Wizard's tornado, causing the
guy to just fall out of the sky

515
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.960
to his death. How's a ball
in chain gonna do that? Like he's

516
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:43.760
also made of wind? Yes,
okay, So Weather Wizard is falling,

517
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.639
but as he's falling, he's also
going to cause like a massive snow dump

518
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.760
to fall with him, like an
avalanche, right, and that's going to

519
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.400
break his fall, but it's also
going to bury Absorbing Man's wind form.

520
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:59.480
And since Absorbing Man, you know, it's just surrounded by all the snow,

521
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.800
he's gonna be forced to take its
properties on and he's just gonna become

522
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.920
Frosty of the Snowman. Frosty Dude. If Absorbing Man becomes Frosty the Snowman,

523
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:15.039
then he's gonna become the most epic
badass Frosty You've ever seen, because,

524
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.880
yeah, he's gonna absorb the properties
of snow, but he's also gonna

525
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.280
absorb like all the snow that's around
him, Like this avalanche is worth of

526
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.639
snow, and he's gonna build on
his snow mass and that's gonna turn him

527
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.360
into like giant Frosty of the Snowman. He's gonna emerge from under this snowfall

528
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.159
like a frost giant, swinging around
his ice ball and chain. And the

529
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.480
ball and chain is gonna have icicle
spikes on it. Fuck you fucked up?

530
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.199
All right, let me think I
mean Frosty melted from heat in the

531
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:51.079
movie. So that's what's gonna happen
here. Like Whether Wizard, He's gonna

532
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.440
generate like a larger amount of heat
and he's just gonna send it absorbing man

533
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:59.239
and like these heat waves. So
right as that spiked ball in chain is

534
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.880
about to small ash Weather Wizard,
it evaporates into water vapor, and so

535
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.360
it does absorbing man into water vapor. Yeah, good move. Okay,

536
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.719
So absorbing man is water vapor,
yeah, and his ball and chain are

537
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:16.440
like dissipated right now in the atmosphere. Okay, But before absorbing Man dissipates

538
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:22.039
into the air, he's gonna think
quickly and he's gonna absorb the heat from

539
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.760
the heat waves. So he's back
in his normal looking form, now normal

540
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.920
sized, but he's super hot to
the touch, which you can tell because

541
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.800
all this steam is coming off of
his body and he's steaming angry. You

542
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.719
know, he's gonna rush the weather
Wizard and give him the old jab jab

543
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:45.800
cross straight hook combo using fists that
are as hot as irons. Why didn't

544
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.400
he just turn into like a bunch
of hot air. I don't get that.

545
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.679
No, he absorbed just the heat. Like over time, he's been

546
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.280
able to choose what physical properties he
absorbs of why he makes contact with.

547
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.320
So in this case, he's just
gonna absorb or the heat part, but

548
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.800
not the air part. Dumb all
right, So Weather Wizard, you know

549
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.320
he's probably on the ground right now
with like a busted face. But I'm

550
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.519
gonna say he like he lands right
by his wand that was knocked away earlier,

551
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.079
which is more like a long metal
staff, and from the ground,

552
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.239
he's gonna swing it right into Absorbing
Man's temple, like on the side of

553
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.079
his head, knocking him out.
No, Absorbing Man laughs at that.

554
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:27.480
He's way more formidable than that.
In fact, like he just grabbed the

555
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.519
rod before it even hit him,
and then he's gonna absorb the rod.

556
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.840
What metal is it made out of? I actually I don't know that,

557
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.280
Probably like steel or something like that. Okay, So absorbing Man becomes steel,

558
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.000
and with his new steel body,
he's just gonna elbow drop right onto

559
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.679
weather Wizard's head, just shattering the
dude's skull brains in a puddle. Matches

560
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.320
over, you've fallen into my trap, so fuck you, there's no trap.

561
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:58.599
What trap? Okay? So absorbing
Man becomes steel or whatever metal the

562
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:01.119
wand is made of. We know
it's cantive of electricity, right, So

563
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:07.159
therefore absorbing man is a conductor of
electricity. And as soon as he becomes

564
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.440
this metal, whether Wizard is just
going to generate like a massive lightning blast

565
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.440
that surges through absorbing manages fries him, and that gives whether Wizard the wind.

566
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.760
No, no, no, because
absorbing Man just becomes lightning. No

567
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.480
no, no, this bolt and
by surprise, like lightning moves way too

568
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.280
fast for absorbing Man to react to
it. Plus, like even if he

569
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.159
did become lightning, whether Wizard is
immune to lightning? He is, Yeah,

570
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.920
that's why he didn't die when Elsa
got struck by lightning. Oh,

571
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:40.079
I'm pretty sure whether the Wizard is
already dead from a shattered skull, brains

572
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.079
in the puddle. Agree to disagree. Okay, we'll leave it there.

573
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.760
Either one of two scenarios happens.
Either absorbing Man who's made out of steel

574
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:54.360
elbow drops and kills whether Wizard,
or whether Wizard sends a surge of lightning

575
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.639
through the now conductive absorbing Man,
ending the match. We'll go ahead and

576
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.440
find out which of these cases happens
by inputting the character stats, running one

577
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:07.320
thousand simulations, and coming back with
a winner. Alfred Javis nine thousand.

578
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:13.800
Take it in. Putting data,
running calculations, processing results, simulations complete.

579
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.039
All right, those a pretty fun
speculation. I figured it would be.

580
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:20.199
As we mentioned before, it was
really hard to find someone for Weather

581
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.760
Wizard to fight. But I think
in Absorbing Man, we came up with

582
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.119
one of the most fun matches that
he possibly could have had. Yeah,

583
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.440
it was fun. Whether it's just
fun to play or ode with. I

584
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.239
think what ended up being interesting about
the stats for these characters is how they

585
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.320
compensated for each other. They're not
really similar statistically. You know, you

586
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:45.119
look at Absorbing Man, who's you
know off the charts in terms of durability,

587
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.480
versatility, and he's much better at
fighting than Weather Wizard. Yeah,

588
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.960
he's much more physical, and we
knew that I was going to happen going

589
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.920
into this match. I figured whether
Wizard would compensate in other areas, which

590
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.079
he did and stats such as range
and into lacke. We also said that

591
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.960
weather Wizard, because he could fly, is faster more evasive than Absorbing Man

592
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.400
definitely, because Absorbing Ban actually likes
to take punishment, so he's a tap

593
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:14.960
orbit. Yeah, it was surprised
me, honestly, was Weather Wizard's strength

594
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.719
due to the fact that tornadoes can
lift a shit ton of weight. Really,

595
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.880
Absorbing Man is only as strong as
his opponents, except for you know,

596
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.280
the weaker ones. He's a physical
specimen on his own, but on

597
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.960
the level of like Captain America or
so. But he's not superhumanly strong unless

598
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.320
he's going up against like the Hulk
or thor or something like that. Like

599
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:37.239
I would even put him up against
someone like dark Side or something like that,

600
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:40.639
because he'd be able to match dark
Side strength and it would probably be

601
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:45.000
cool to see him like absorb the
Omega effect or something like that. But

602
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.079
it's interesting how Absorbing Man's stats change
depending on who he's fighting, and that

603
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.280
was definitely reflected here. So considering
all that, Jonathan, who do you

604
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.800
think won this match? I mean, I think it's going to be Weather

605
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.480
Wizard. Well, what do you
know? You don't know, shit,

606
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.679
I think I know more than her. Instagram followers seventy four percent of whom

607
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.880
chose Absorbing Man as the winner for
this which what I mean it makes sense.

608
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.320
Absorbing Man is a Hulk and Thor
villain, so you'd considered him to

609
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.639
be on that level. Whether Wizard
has like Storm level powers, but I

610
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.039
don't think she could contend with Hulk
or Thor. Yeah, but I mean

611
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.800
like Weather Wizard, I think has
been in more like media from the cartoons

612
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.960
and the Flash TV show. I
would have figured he would have won the

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00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:32.400
popularity contest that typically is the Instagram
poll. Absorbing Man was the main villain

614
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:37.079
of the two thousand and three Angly
Hulk movie, and he was also in

615
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.199
the Agents of Shield television show.
That's right. I never saw the Shields

616
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:45.360
television show, but I forgot he
was the bad guy Bruce Banner's father in

617
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.480
the Angly Hulk film Yeah, that
was weird. That was weird. That

618
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.440
was pretty cool. That was cool. The Agents of Shield version of the

619
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Absorbing Man was actually a lot closer
to the comics. He was pretty cool

620
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.239
in that show. Actually interesting.
That's cool. But let's go ahead and

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see who won. Alfred Jarvis nine
the results please, Hey, USA,

622
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:09.519
Okay, so the winner between Weather
Wizard and Absorbing Man is the Weather Wizard.

623
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:15.119
Hell yeah, hell yeah, yep, he won this one out of

624
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.760
one thousand matches simulated, whether Wizard
won fifty eight point eight percent of them

625
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.199
or five hundred eighty eight matches out
of a thousand, whereas Absorbing Man only

626
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.920
one forty one point two percent of
the matches or four hundred twelve out of

627
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.599
a thousand. Are you surprised by
this? You know, honestly, I

628
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.239
thought it was going to be close. I think I would have been surprised

629
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.760
no matter who won. But what
it really came down to was range and

630
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.360
intellect. Those two stats were areas
that whether Wizard came out way on top,

631
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.840
Absorbing Man was way more durable.
But when you consider that whether Wizard

632
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.880
could pretty much keep Absorbing Man at
bay all day long, and the fact

633
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.800
that he's incredibly smart and probably would
be able to figure out how to use

634
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.920
the elements against Absorbing Man in some
like scientific way. It kind of makes

635
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.360
sense, considering Absorbing Man is kind
of a dump dumb. Yeah. I

636
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.800
mean, if a flash can't touch
Weather Wizard, it's going to be really

637
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.280
hard for Absorbing Man too. Yeah. I mean that ball and chain only

638
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.280
extends so far, you know,
so looking at the results, it kind

639
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.440
of makes sense. You know,
if Absorbing Man turns into water or metal,

640
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:22.679
he's done for with Weather Wizards lightning. And if Absorbing Man turns into

641
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.440
lightning, it's not going to affect
Weather Wizard so right, and Weather Wizard

642
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.559
loves lightning like that's his go to
move. Yeah, the results makes sense

643
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.760
to me. I gotta say this
sucks for me because Absorbing Man has always

644
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.239
been one of those villains that has
never really been too successful in the comics.

645
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:43.000
But I've always really enjoyed when he
showed up because the fights against the

646
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.599
heroes, you know, are always
going to be fun. It's always interesting

647
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.800
to see what forms he's going to
take on and how the heroes are going

648
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:51.920
to kind of play chemistry with him
in order to win, you know,

649
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.519
didn't you say Captain America beat him
once by throwing a pillow at him.

650
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.440
That was the enough, said Christmas
Special, he threw cotton balls at him.

651
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:04.400
Yeah, and then absorbing Man became
cotton. I don't think that's a

652
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.840
good case study, but that does
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a review, We're going to discuss
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665
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Gods, which comes out this week. Yeah, I'm super excited for it.

666
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It's the first theatrical release for DC
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667
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first Shazam movie, and based on
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668
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better than the first one. I'm
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you know, check out expectations.
As always. What I'm interested in is

670
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seeing how it'll compare it to Black
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671
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gonna be an interesting comparison for sure. But that does it for this episode.

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